S15.E04: Blacklight or Daylight?

[Ms Blue Jay]

I have no idea of her name, and Canadians are blocked from learning about the show, but the girl who is Cornelius's schoolmate was soooo angry at Erin winning.  Really immature.

Edited October 1, 2016 by Ms Blue Jay

[Ms Blue Jay]

On 9/30/2016 at 3:36 PM, BloggerAloud said:

Did anybody else find Heidi's comments about the model looking like a hoochie mama ready to twerk in a video super gross? Like this show does love to hurl out the insult of someone dressing their model like a hooker/streetwalker but it was one of those moments where I was like, "There is no way that comment would've come out that particular way if the model had been white."

Her comments were over the top and unnecessarily nasty.  Sometimes these judges go way too hard for the soundbite.  It used to be MK who would do it.  I was surprised Heidi had to go that far with it.  I don't know.  As a woman I didn't see any of that at all, but I guess I was really swayed by the editing.  Because her reaction was a shock.  It honestly seemed sexist too.  Like you need to calm down, it's just clothing.  If you see that in an outfit, maybe the problem is with you.

1 hour ago, NewDigs said:

Alex is getting a little too precious for me. We heard his Lady of Shade thing once already. That's enough. He just seems kind of full of himself and above everyone else.

It was a huge turnoff when he admitted he always mixes up Tasha and Kimber.  I have no respect for him anymore.  I thought it was very interesting that the editors even chose to show that.

[Ms Blue Jay]

8 hours ago, RemoteControlFreak said:

I was alive in the 90s. Still never heard of her, so she might not have been all that shit, though I don't pay any attention to who models are. Never understood the fascination with people whose one job is walk a straight line without falling over.

As fans of the show Project Runway, a lot of us are obsessed with fashion and have been since 90s and before, so yeah, a lot of us know and like models.  

[auntlada]

I don't care if I've heard of Jaime King really, as I've also not heard of many designers until I saw them on this show, and I'd rather have them as judges than model/actresses. Like many others, I don't understand her horror at the bows. It made no sense. Not liking them because they looked dumb and like the laces on those dolls that kids use to learn how to tie shoes would make sense. Not liking them because you don't dress women that way these days, not so much. I just don't know what it was she didn't like about them as she didn't really explain.

I edited because I thought a post was deleted, but it wasn't. It was just on the previous page. Anyway, my point above stands (although I had never heard of her and have seen only two things she's ever been in and didn't like them so I only caught bits). I don't consider her famous because I've never heard of her, and yes, that is my standard, whether or not it should be.

Edited October 2, 2016 by auntlada
I'm dumb sometimes.

[chitowngirl]

21 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

Rik lost me when he started weeping about how hard it is for his mother to pay off his school loans. A man in his 30s ought to put on his big boy pants and take responsibility for his own debt.

If Mom co-signed the loan, she has to pay. And yes, he should be paying his own debts.

[Honey]

I laughed out loud when Tim declared that he isn't a fan of nipples.  No kidding Tim.

Edited October 3, 2016 by Honey

[Bees]

I really want to like Cornelius but he just makes it harder and harder for me to like him. I thought he had a pretty cool concept with the white dress that looks funky under the blacklight. I just found the emoji part of it really cringe inducing. If it was another design it would've been great.

I loved Roberi's dress. Dude keeps getting screwed over. I also really like Natalia's Tron-inspired outfit. 

Erin's is a little frustrating. I absolutely dislike the top part of the dress save for the sleeves and I feel like the bottom part could've used a little organza or something like that to go underneath to bring more texture to it and not make it so transparent looking in the daytime. Hell even use that stuff Cornelius was using in the Emoji dress to give it an effect. Loved the little patterns though. But something about her does kind of rub me the wrong way. I can't quite put my finger on it just yet. 

Also I loved Dexter's outfit and thought it should've been in the top. That fringe looked great in the blacklight. It could've used a bit more color but not much more.

[CoyoteBlue]

On 9/30/2016 at 11:26 AM, The Hound Lives said:

I thought Erin did a good job but I was at Target yesterday looking at children's Halloween costumes and the material she used looked just like the Frozen Anna dress I was eyeing. While I liked the sheer part, the silhouette is very dated. It's "cutesy" and completely chopped the models torso in half. Just looked ill-fitting.

When that dress came down the runway, I wanted to know what 7-year-old she mugged for their Disney Princess Halloween costume. 

[Kickboxer]

Its been hard for me to make it through a Project Runway episode this season as it all is so re-hashed and boring. Crop-tops and drop-waist pants? Yawn inducing fads. I made myself watch this one, and the safe looks should have been the best and worst, or at least the best. Laughing girl is annoying and there was nothing that would make me want to wear her look. The winning Frozen dress, also lame.

This is the first season of PR I may not be able to sustain enough interest to make it all the way through. Considering I watched the horrible Gretchen Jones and surprisingly even worse Anya seasons that is saying a lot. Brik is cute. Too bad his designs make me want to cut myself in a bedroom to make sure I still have feelings.

[needschocolate]

I don't like Cornelius, I didn't think his dress looks anything special until daylight, I thought the emojis were immature, poorly drawn, and oddly placed, but I really like the way that the fabric looked white in daylight and al theise colors showed up in blacklight.  How did he get that to happen?   

When they were explaining the challenge, I expected/hoped to see more designs where the fabric looked completely different under blacklight.  Instead,  we got a bunch of dresses that looked the same, just glowed. 

 

On 9/30/2016 at 5:41 AM, beaker73 said:

A Transitions Lenses challenge?!?!? I'm so embarrassed for this show. 

This gave me an idea - I am going to play a little game with myself anytime I am forced to watch commercials (I mean if I am watching a show live, not that someone would strap me to a chair and force me to watch the commercials) - for each commercial I will try to figure out a way PR could turn it into a challenge, and, to make it tougher, I can only have one unconventional challenge each commercial break. iPhone commercial - design a dress that has a recharger attached to it,  Ragu commercial - design a dress that will hide a spaghetti sauce stain, Trojan commercial - design a chastity belt, etc..

And what is the big deal about lenses that get darker in sunlight?  My mom had those decades ago.  

On 9/30/2016 at 8:58 AM, pbutler111 said:

I have no doubt that Jenni is grossly exaggerating her laugh to distinguish herself from the crowd. All she's doing with that is distinguishing herself as incredibly annoying.

I swear the show amplifies her laugh, because every time sh laughs, all other sounds fade away and her laugh is the only sound you hear, unfortunately.

[WichitaStateShock]

I havent read the whole thread but why didnt someone do a white dress and then use the spray paint to spray like a geometric design on their dress that shows up in black light. The spray paint when used was really just all over the place. They couldve used tape like when painting walls to verify where it will go. Now a totally tranformative dress from white to geometric neon would've been amazing 

[Beamish]

I knew this episode was gonna be ridiculous right off the bat when we first saw Heidi and Tim at the horribly stagey looking "backstage" area, moving the power lever prop to "cut the power". It looked like an oversize prop out of Lily Tomlin film The Incredible Shrinking Woman they used to have on display at Universal Studios. Why was that thing so cartoony looking? Not for the designers benefit - they were in a different room. Do the producers really think anybody thought it was realistic? That prop was as realistic as that horrible laugh.

I give all of the designers who didn't use a boring white dress to use as the "day wear" design a lot of credit, even if their look wasn't successful. The boring white dresses to me were similar to gluing stuff on muslin during any given unconventional challenge.

The raincoat thing: awful yellow swimsuit-thing underneath and the stick on flowers peeling off - insulting that was in the top three.

Roberti: totally robbed. His dress was uber cool.

Erin: she'll start to get the aloof villain edit soon. This is her second win and she didn't go nuts when Heidi announced it, similar to her first win. She kept her composure. That will come back to bite her later on.

Cornelius: go away. All of his "cutesy" faces he makes whenever Tim is giving him a critique are just irritating and are just getting worse. Looks like Tim is already over him.

Kimber: she may not be the best designer, but I'd love to hang out with her. Great energy and a fun personality. Tim looked really sad to see her leave. She even got a Tim Gunn kiss!

Edited October 2, 2016 by Beamish

[bitchin camaro]

6 hours ago, needschocolate said:

This gave me an idea - I am going to play a little game with myself anytime I am forced to watch commercials (I mean if I am watching a show live, not that someone would strap me to a chair and force me to watch the commercials) - for each commercial I will try to figure out a way PR could turn it into a challenge, and, to make it tougher, I can only have one unconventional challenge each commercial break. iPhone commercial - design a dress that has a recharger attached to it,  Ragu commercial - design a dress that will hide a spaghetti sauce stain, Trojan commercial - design a chastity belt, etc..

And what is the big deal about lenses that get darker in sunlight?  My mom had those decades ago.  

 

Brilliant! I decided to do this with the next commercial that came on, and it was for Cotton. That wouldn't be very interesting - lol.

They tried to talk me into Transitions the last time I got new glasses. The kicker is that they don't darken in the car (something about the windshield glass blocking uv rays) and that's the time I need sunglasses the most. No thanks.

[Wandering Snark]

48 minutes ago, bitchin camaro said:

They tried to talk me into Transitions the last time I got new glasses. The kicker is that they don't darken in the car (something about the windshield glass blocking uv rays) and that's the time I need sunglasses the most. No thanks.

Exactly why they've held no sway with me... also when I'm out I'm fishing and use a polarized lens... so double no. Though I hear the newest generation takes care of the in the car issue.

But, back on topic, I mainly didn't want Lady Shade to win because didn't he mention that we was kind of intentionally phoning it in with his design as a f-u to the judges for his amazing designs not making the top yet? Then they all gave him a tonguebath about how amazing and hip and 'on trend' it was. I threw up in my mouth a little.

[Honey]

Erin's laugh in her talking head segments, bothers me more than Jenni's laugh does.

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, Wandering Snark said:

But, back on topic, I mainly didn't want Lady Shade to win because didn't he mention that we was kind of intentionally phoning it in with his design as a f-u to the judges for his amazing designs not making the top yet? Then they all gave him a tonguebath about how amazing and hip and 'on trend' it was. I threw up in my mouth a little.

The producers always get the last laugh.  They probably heard what he said (cameras and mics everywhere in the workroom), so they built him up so they could yank the rug out from him if he actually does something noteworthy.  That's what I think, anyway!

[lh25]

14 hours ago, Wandering Snark said:

Though I hear the newest generation takes care of the in the car issue.

They do, my husband has them and they work pretty well.

Forgive me if this was covered and I missed it, but did the designer of the plastic raincoat(I don't have the names all down yet) say that it would be a good summer look?  Clear plastic doesn't breath well, I can't imagine it in a hot humid summer.

[backgroundnoise]

The yellow swimsuit raincoat outfit doesn't make any sense to me.  Unless "transition" means equally non-wearable in both natural and black light settings.  As mentioned above, the raincoat would be too uncomfortable in swimsuit weather, and who wears a swimsuit to a blacklight club?

I still am enjoying this season, but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that I like Erin's designs, so I'm okay with the judges liking her stuff. 

Edited October 3, 2016 by backgroundnoise

[bitchin camaro]

On 10/2/2016 at 8:03 PM, Wandering Snark said:

Exactly why they've held no sway with me... also when I'm out I'm fishing and use a polarized lens... so double no. Though I hear the newest generation takes care of the in the car issue.

But, back on topic, I mainly didn't want Lady Shade to win because didn't he mention that we was kind of intentionally phoning it in with his design as a f-u to the judges for his amazing designs not making the top yet? Then they all gave him a tonguebath about how amazing and hip and 'on trend' it was. I threw up in my mouth a little.

I missed that bit, but it's not surprising. It reminds me of the time that I intentionally wrote the dumbest, cheesiest, most trite poem ever for English class, and my teacher submitted for publication in a statewide magazine. I was mortified. 

[pigs-in-space]

On 10/1/2016 at 7:58 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

It was a huge turnoff when he admitted he always mixes up Tasha and Kimber.  I have no respect for him anymore.  I thought it was very interesting that the editors even chose to show that.

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that little line.  Talk about textbook microaggression.  Besides the fact that they're both black women, they look nothing alike, their styles are nothing alike, and their designs are nothing alike either.

[SSAHotchner]

On 9/29/2016 at 10:57 PM, Albino said:

Cornelius's's's's dress was "on trend"?  Emojis are over.  I mean - people still use them and all but the days of emojis being considered cool or hip are long gone.  Plus it just looked lame with those rudimentary sad faces and x's.   :(

Due to her unfortunate hairdo, I kept getting Kimber and Dexter mixed up for almost the entire show.  It was only when I remembered Dexter had a nose ring that I got my bearings again.  

I like Mah-Jing but almost wanted him to go home with the constant crying.

I thought the emoji idea was cute, but I didn't care for the way he executed it, particularly the smiley face at crotch level. That may appeal to some as a joke, but it's not fashion, or at least tasteful fashion. 

I was kind of surprised that they made the crime scene fluids comment about that other white dress. I didn't care for it in daylight or blacklight. It just looked sloppy. But that was a risqué comment and almost made me wonder if they had that comment in mind and were hoping for an outfit that would give them the chance to use it. 

Too many of the outfits looked hoochie to me. I loved Erin's dress in either light. It was delicate, feminine and lovely. 

[mamadrama]

On 10/1/2016 at 11:32 AM, RemoteControlFreak said:

I was alive in the 90s. Still never heard of her, so she might not have been all that shit, though I don't pay any attention to who models are. Never understood the fascination with people whose one job is walk a straight line without falling over.

She was a pretty big deal. In fact, a drugged out picture of her, taken by her bf, was what coined the urban phrase "heroin chic." 

[candall]

On ‎10‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 11:28 AM, needschocolate said:

I don't like Cornelius, I didn't think his dress looks anything special until daylight, I thought the emojis were immature, poorly drawn, and oddly placed, but I really like the way that the fabric looked white in daylight and al theise colors showed up in blacklight.  How did he get that to happen?   

When they were explaining the challenge, I expected/hoped to see more designs where the fabric looked completely different under blacklight.  Instead,  we got a bunch of dresses that looked the same, just glowed. 

 

This gave me an idea - I am going to play a little game with myself anytime I am forced to watch commercials (I mean if I am watching a show live, not that someone would strap me to a chair and force me to watch the commercials) - for each commercial I will try to figure out a way PR could turn it into a challenge, and, to make it tougher, I can only have one unconventional challenge each commercial break. iPhone commercial - design a dress that has a recharger attached to it,  Ragu commercial - design a dress that will hide a spaghetti sauce stain, Trojan commercial - design a chastity belt, etc..

And what is the big deal about lenses that get darker in sunlight?  My mom had those decades ago.  

I swear the show amplifies her laugh, because every time sh laughs, all other sounds fade away and her laugh is the only sound you hear, unfortunately.

Thumbs up to your whole post, but the mention of your mom reminded me that my father also had those "transistion" lenses about forty years ago.  They NEVER turned completely clear--pale grey was the lightest they could go.  My father suddenly seemed to be groovin' along like Peter Lawford, with the sideburns and the hip shades, waiting for the rest of the Rat Pack to show.

[Tony]

On 9/30/2016 at 0:10 AM, kat165 said:

I liked Erin's. And I finally figured out who she reminds me of, Agent Bishop of NCIS.

OMG bingo! They're practically doppelgangers of each other.

Cornelius can go next week.

[kat165]

Tony, bored one night and looked for pics of both of them then pasted them side by side. They could be twins.
 Bishop just needs the glasses and a different hair part.

[SlackerInc]

I always seem to find in the early going that the designs I'm most interested in--good and bad--are just "safe", so they get no discussion.  Frustrating.

And there were so many looks that were far worse than Kimber's.  The winning look was at least decent if not my favorite (there were a couple, again, in the "safe" group I liked better).  The other two in the top would have been safe at best if I were judging.

[little black cloud]

It's a good thing none of the judges asked, "Who is your girl and where is she going?" The only possible answer would have been, "Well, I don't know. You tell me. You people set this shit up."

[Wandering Snark]

I think the answer would have been "My girl is going to the beach where she wants to show as much skin as possible and have a cover-up that is more fashion than function."

[likalaruku]

Alex's dress was okay, but it kinda looked like it was made out of felt, & that made it look a bit cheap. I could totally see women wearing this in the casinos of Vegas & Reno.

Worst thing Brik's ever made, & I'm going back a few episodes here. It's a moderately sculpted bit of white cloth with a few holes cut into it, ¬ even a moderately flattering fit. He did so much better in episode 5 with that flattering silver cocktail dress.

Cornelius's dress was too plain in the light & too tacky in the dark, but he did excel with the challenge given to him & making it as modern as possible.

Dexter's probably would have been a hit with country divas. I could see one doing a live concert in the dark, lit up like an adorable fiber glass lamp.

There was nothing sweet or innocent about Erin's raunchy dress. I agreed with Nina about it looking like swimming jellyfish, but the open-cup bralette covered in bedazzled pasties was just tasteless.

Loved Jenni's acrylic coat, adored the colors & shaped applies to it, but I hated that frumpy yellow singlet underneath. The outfit was just screaming for a little more hot pink or neon orange somewhere else on it to tie it in.

Kimber's...I loved the shape & the idea of her outfit, but it did not glow & the hem was quite bad. It was still better than Brik's, but the challenge was to glow.

Laurence's was pretty tacky. Hoochi mama hotpants &the fact that it looked like she just slapped a few strips of masking tape in various places.

Mah-Jing's was still better than Brik's. That's all I can say about it.

Nathalia's was just adorable. Loved the colors & the shapes.

Heidi claimed Rik's dress was stripperific, but it's a standard nightclub dress. I agreed with the guest judge that the bows cheapened it & I was a little disappointed that the silver top didn't glow white like the silver on a reflective jacket would.

Roberi's was amazing. I would have liked it to have been knee-length personally, but I think he achieved the coolest glow effect.

Sarah's was very costumy, like Wednesday Adams meets Naughty School Girl. But it just happened to be halloween & I could see a lot of women going to halloween parties in that dress.

Tasha's dress would have made a great cocktail waitress uniform for casinos.