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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I loved when someone called the Judge "Judy."  Byrd was right in his face asking, "Is she a friend of yours?  No?  Then it's 'Your honor,' not 'Judy.'"

That was a good one! One of those snotty little Chatty Bratties who thought he was at a tea party or something with his "Judy." Got on Byrd's last nerve.  

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1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

Oh but he does. More than once he's taken it upon himself to open a can of whoop ass on some wise guy or quell bitch fights between litigants on their way out. My favorite was when he told someone to "Shut up."  He did all these things on his own initiative with no request from JJ. After all, he's a real bailiff and knows when to act and when to do nothing.

And at times, on his own and also at JJ's request, he will go stand between plaintiff and defendant if it's a particularly contentious case between hustlahs.

27 minutes ago, AuntiePam said:

Why didn't the Koons brothers sue for unpaid rent instead of missing appliances? 

I thought the same thing! And I doubt I would buy a house if I inherited the renters without doing background checks on them. Those brothers were just coasting through until they could evict tenants and do the MUCH needed reno.

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22 hours ago, Bobby88 said:

I agree. JJ is also sometimes biased against some litigants. I get that she has seen COUNTLESS people who are abusing the system, but it seems that she sometimes gets immediately annoyed and suspicious when a litigant mentions something about being on disability, especially when they don't appear obviously disabled (i.e. wheelchair-bound, blind, etc.). Well, not all disabilities are visible and although someone may look and sound normal to the public, it sometimes takes a HUGE amount of prescription medications (which JJ also likes to sarcastically inquire about when someone says something out of line) and frequent trips to a specialist to keep them that way. My mother is a perfect example. She has had sarcoidosis of the lungs since 1992 and has been on total disability since around 1994. She looks perfectly "normal" and can drive, shop, cook, carry on a conversation, etc. Never mind that she takes so many different pills that she doesn't even remember what most of them are for anymore and sometimes gets so out of breath from something as simple as vacuuming that she has to sit and rest for a few hours. But people sometimes give her the side-eye when she mentions that she can't work.

And, no, Your Honor, every time a teenager's mouth is moving doesn't mean they're lying. And I say that as someone who didn't like or trust most teenagers even when I was one.

And YES, they do 90% of the time. JJ is ABSOLUTELY correct.

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I'm just cleaning out my hoard of JJs on the DVR and got to the case from Friday (at least in my market) featuring the case of the nutcase Scarface-wannabe, soon-to-be-spree-killer, Lizard King who's getting sued by his ex GF for something something about rent. I'd have paid closer attention but I couldn't stop obsessing on that giant 8x10 picture he put in a frame he made with construction paper and old wallpaper and then stapled to his sport coat. The F with that?! I presume it was his dead mother and ... NOTHING TO SEE HERE! THAT'S TOTALLY NORMAL! 

Was I hallucinating that episode? (Conceivable!) I looked back a few pages and didn't see it mentioned. 

2 hours ago, Brattinella said:

 

Didn't anyone else find the Koons  brothers loathsome?

 

I am 30 seconds into this episode and I can't even look at them without wanting to clutch a rape whistle. 

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1 hour ago, Giant Misfit said:

I'm just cleaning out my hoard of JJs on the DVR and got to the case from Friday (at least in my market) featuring the case of the nutcase Scarface-wannabe, soon-to-be-spree-killer, Lizard King who's getting sued by his ex GF for something something about rent. I'd have paid closer attention but I couldn't stop obsessing on that giant 8x10 picture he put in a frame he made with construction paper and old wallpaper and then stapled to his sport coat. The F with that?! I presume it was his dead mother and ... NOTHING TO SEE HERE! THAT'S TOTALLY NORMAL! 

Was I hallucinating that episode? (Conceivable!) I looked back a few pages and didn't see it mentioned. 

I am 30 seconds into this episode and I can't even look at them without wanting to clutch a rape whistle. 

I have not seen this one yet!  WOWIE!  I can't wait!

Hubby says the Koons brothers remind him of that picture of the two inbred guys.

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9 hours ago, Brattinella said:

Hubby says the Koons brothers remind him of that picture of the two inbred guys.

Those two were definitely dealt the losing hand from the DNA deck.  Yikes.  The taller one looked like a Crispin Glover + Sloth from The Goonies love child.  In other notes from this episode...I need to know where did Mr. Squattah get his fancy shiny purple disco shirt?  It looked like it was in mint condition from the Deney Terrio 'Dance Fever' collection.  Yes, I'm old.

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16 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Bunch Of Fools - What a cute case of little kids having only 3 weeks practice playing football getting solidly beat up by another recreational team that practiced for longer.  A recreational team is a recreational team no matter how long they've been playing recreationally!  The plaintiff didn't get that, could not prove that the other team was "traveling" and therefore not recreational, and he lost his case for a refund and some other BS. The kicker is, you have to be a fool to train 4-feet tall linebackers for only three weeks and sign them up for a competition. Extra points for the coach's sporty fashion, a white silk tie on a solid, stop-sign red shirt.  2.5 gavels.

I actually do think, from the way the defendant wasn't really answering JJ's questions, that some of the teams in the "rec" category probably weren't really rec teams. The problem, and the thing the defendant was counting on, was how do you prove that? You'd have to get parents or coaches from one of those teams to come and testify to really prove that. But it makes sense to me, in an effort to sell all the places in the tournament, to mis-categorize a team or two. If you've sold out all of the B spaces, why not put the least experienced B teams into the A category so you can still get their money? Still, a team that's only been together for three weeks should never be at a tournament and the injuries are on the coach and the parents for letting that situation happen.

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I can't believe nobody has mentioned Friday's episode with Miss (not) Diana Ross, giant wig, pink suit, puppy in pink sweater, and how many nursing assistants? She was a bowl full of crazy even if I am sure the 'tude on the nurse suing her was pretty retched! She seemed like a nightmare to work for,  it the whole thing was awesome!!!! I hope I never need full time care..

And I guarr-ron-teee that was her service animal - probably wearing a teensy orange vest under her fetching pinky ensemble. 

The Koons Bros looked like extras from the TV show Fargo - or these two lawyers we have on our local Tee-Vee (ironically that play during the JJ commercial break - a couple of twin Schleprocks with whiny Jersey accents)

Yesterday's plaintiff had old school Steve Buscemi/Fargo mouth (I guess I have Fargo on the mind lol) 

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Early rerun today:  Guy uses the word "conversating" and the proceedings screech to a halt!  Judy gives Byrd "the look" and he just absolutely cracks up! "I looked!  It's not in the dictionary!" Judy informs him.  More cackling.  Love it when he gets to be a real person!  Stupid, stupid 2 minute cases.  Hoping for some good ones this afternoon!

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On 5/27/2017 at 4:18 PM, SRTouch said:

Well, probably a slob who has overflowing litter boxes - but also intact cats judging from all the kitten pictures. Nothing quite like the scent of intact Toms marking their territory.

I love my cats, and I love having kittens around, but the very first thing I have always done is neuter/spay any cat I have. A single mama can produce 3 litters a year, averaging 4 kittens a litter - and close to 900,000 cats are euthanized at US shelters annually according to the SPCA.

Ok, not going to launch into a rant, so, stepping away from the soap box 

Preach!  It's one of my soapboxes too.  I have 10 (6 indoor, 4 outdoor in a large catio) and clean the boxes 2x a day.  Once can have cats without allowing nasty odor from overtaking everything else. 

On topic, I really loved the recent episode where Byrd got a hug because he gave back some jewelry to the plaintiff.  And love it more when he gives a good smack down!

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Was it comedy hour today? When I saw that the sweaty Sean (who must have the worst credit record on the planet) took out a loan for the smirking Myesha, who lives oin her car but works 40 hrs/week but is in financial crisis but wants to buy a house and apparently exchanges sex for money, I had to stop and rewind: 135% interest on a loan? 2600$ that turns into 12K? I never would have dreamed such a thing is possible. Even the Mob would be in shock at this, but not Sean! He thinks that's just peachy, as long as he can keep banging Myesha (they were NOT having an "intimate relationship" - they were just screwing! Get it straight, JJ!) who sadly went back to her true love, leaving Sean holding the 135% interest bag. JJ can't deal with this kind of stupidity, prostitution and lying, so gives them all - including Sean's former paramour, Antoinette - the ol' heave-ho. Sean seemed dazed and stunned in the hall, probably thinking he could have hired a professional prostitute for a fraction of Myesha's price.

Then we had the circus acrobat who goes to bed at 9:00 and feels everyone should but takes in as a roomate a middleaged man who likes to get drunk and fall on the floor. That's his lifestyle. She thinks she can effectively kick him out because of the drinking and falling down stuff. Wrong. Honestly, I think I lost yet more brain cells today.

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When watching their episode, I immediately nicknamed the Koons brothers Eric and Donald Jr. But more like SNL's portrayal of them. I guess that makes the quiet one AND I'M ERIC!

 

For the football case, I thought there might have been some merit to the plaintiff's claims, as I actually had a similar experience in a baseball league as a child. However, as soon as he started in with the "Well, I talked to some other parents...", I knew it wasn't going to end well for him. I think it was one of those cases where he was *probably* right, morally if not legally, but he had little chance of proving it.

 

I got two reruns today, and it looks like the same for tomorrow. I guess the season's over for the summer?

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When my son played baseball, we sent to a lot of tournaments where we were overmatched.  We even jokes that some of the 9 year olds had driver's license.  Our boys had been playing all season to and were the all star team from our league.  Never would have let my son play in a tournament without many practices first.

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3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

135% interest on a loan? 2600$ that turns into 12K?

And the paperwork showed it was a loan from Speedy Cash. Guess who one of today's sponsors was?!?!  Yep!  While the whole thing was indeed damaging to brain cells, I was a little disappointed JJ didn't award him something.  The loan had gone to collection, so it has probably been reduced.  I do an exercise with my college math students about what "minimum payments" will get you in the long run on credit cards.  They are most often flabbergasted (even my more "mature" students!)

The best part of that case was watching Ms. Antionette keeping up with the "Did you have an intimate relationship" questioning. Heh. Oops!

The second ep featured the Tickle/Joynt litigants. Made me giggle.

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11 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I had to stop and rewind: 135% interest on a loan? 2600$ that turns into 12K? I never would have dreamed such a thing is possible. Even the Mob would be in shock at this, but not Sean!

Yup! I used to see commercials for some Native-American-based "lender" who was offering immediate low-dollar loans (I think up to $5,000) and was SHOCKED to read the fine print on it that said the interest rate was like 150% or something. There's always someone, somewhere who's eager to exploit the poor and desperate for profit. It should be against the law -- but it's not.

 

8 hours ago, SandyToes said:

The best part of that case was watching Ms. Antionette keeping up with the "Did you have an intimate relationship" questioning. Heh. Oops!

That was indeed classic! 

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Sorry, somehow my interface with the forums isn't working well. Quote from Busy October - "I need to know where did Mr. Squattah get his fancy shiny purple disco shirt? It looked like it was in mint condition from the Deney Terrio 'Dance Fever' collection. Yes, I'm old. " I am think the purple suit may be from the same place Zippy the Open-mouth Flounder got his Hawaiian shirt (with matching tie).

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46 minutes ago, bad things are bad said:

every attempt made to regulate the payday loan industry seems to get blocked. Wonder why...

There is a VERY interesting entry in Wikipedia regarding Usury. 

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For the football case, I thought there might have been some merit to the plaintiff's claims, as I actually had a similar experience in a baseball league as a child. However, as soon as he started in with the "Well, I talked to some other parents...", I knew it wasn't going to end well for him. I think it was one of those cases where he was *probably* right, morally if not legally, but he had little chance of proving it.

When the case started I thought this was the same tournament my SIL coached at last weekend. He used to play minor league baseball and was invited to coach a super high level 14 and under travel team for a tournament weekend in SW Florida. The kids played several games and then the final team showed up with kids flown in from the Dominican Republic that were over 16 (there's a big difference in muscle strength and size, plus the DR is a virtual ML baseball factory in training). The team he was coaching was understably trounced and these were kids who had played together for quite a while. Apparently they have a slew of bogus birth certificates that they use for the DR players. 

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When my son played baseball, we sent to a lot of tournaments where we were overmatched.  We even jokes that some of the 9 year olds had driver's license.  Our boys had been playing all season to and were the all star team from our league.  Never would have let my son play in a tournament without many practices first.

Unfortunately due to parental pressure there are many teams that take the joy and fun out of the sport. I work in a pediatric orthopedic office and I will get parents calling because their 9 year old has "pitcher's elbow" and "he has a game this weekend and has to be checked out".  Trust me, 9 year olds aren't going to MLB overnight, folks. It's supposed to be fun and a learning and bonding experience, not the damn Holy Grail (lest I be prejudicial, lots of other sports and activities are like this - my kids took piano lessons for several years and one mother used to show up and videotape all the other kids group lessons so she could grill her own kid) 

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6 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

Yup! I used to see commercials for some Native-American-based "lender" who was offering immediate low-dollar loans (I think up to $5,000) and was SHOCKED to read the fine print on it that said the interest rate was like 150% or something. There's always someone, somewhere who's eager to exploit the poor and desperate for profit. It should be against the law -- but it's not.

There is one that advertises in our area (maybe the one you saw) that has a rate of (are you all sitting down???) 780% APR. A $300 loan will cost you $2157. Must be nice. And they are all very similar in their rates.

I'd also like to add, that I am half Native American; I would be willing to lend that same $300 out for half of that interest rate!

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3 minutes ago, Schnickelfritz said:

There is one that advertises in our area (maybe the one you saw) that has a rate of (are you all sitting down???) 780% APR

That sounds right! I'm assuming it was the one with the Native American spokesperson and a lot of people "testifying" how quickly they got their meager loans. 

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So I just watched an ep of Hot Bench which included a 300% interest title loan, which I thought astounding until I read your post, Schnickelfritz. This loan was not taken by plaintiff because he or his family were poverty-stricken, starving and homeless. In fact, both litigants looked extremely well-fed. It was taken so the mouth-breathing plaintiff could continue to enjoy "benefits" (of the humpy kind) from his "friend" (clothed in a black velvet dress with lace sleeves) who wanted to buy a car, but then she moved on and stopped paying. I guess some people feel that's reason enough to indebt themselves for life.

Anyway, today I got the wormy little goofball who took an ancient truck+cash in exchange for renovating a kitchen for plaintiffs. JJ couldn't believe the value of this 1983 Silverado and made Byrd give her the BB. I couldn't believe it either, but the value in fair condition was approx 6K. Little worm whines that plaintiffs started threatening him AND his wife (obviously another seriously desperate woman) for absolutely no reason - we must assume both are psychotic -  so he never finished the job but just took the truck and buggered off. Plaintiffs needed to say nothing at all. Weasly little worm loses.

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Mr Trammell, with his swaying arrogance, was quite entertaining today.  I really loved when the plaintiff's witness spoke of him and his torpedo-laden lady friend making noise and removing stuff from his apartment.  The pictures, though: OMG.  I am so surprised either one of them showed up in court; I wouldn't have if I had done that dastardly deed with the cabinets and pulling the SINK off the wall, too!

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Ah, yes, a couple classic morons on the reruns today. Dude with Charles Manson eyes who calls CPS because neighbor won't return his 1000 bucks after his marijuana grow deal falls apart - now that dude is wound WAY too tight, with the crazy eyes and clenched teeth. And defendant lady who can't keep her mouth shut about long time neighbor's son setting into motion a CPS investigation which terrified her three kids - and over a lousy thousand bucks. Obvious that crazy eyes was... crazy, but I was afraid JJ was going to kick beside-herself defendant out when she kept up with her interruptions. Ah, at least we got classic JJ beat down of the moronic plaintiff - even calling crazy a moron.

Then we get to hear JJ tell dancing security guard dude to stand still, he's making her sea sick. And yes, quite the performance by dancing man and his gf, who looked terrified to be standing next to dude who might explode at any moment. May just be me, but scared gf looked like the typical abused person - cowering as she was afraid of say something that would light his fuse.

Now, those two performances probably had Byrd thinking back to the bad old days when he really was the only thing standing between JJ and the looney goons who might go off in the courtroom. No time for crosswords today, have to watch the loons!

Almost forgot the dude who thought it cool to testify in court about trying to pay a dude in home grown pot. Ah, the open mouthed look of shock when told he wasn't getting a penny for work he did on some junker, when the deal was for a title to some other junker.

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Saturday morning oldie with one of the most annoying (and probably psychotic!) defendants ever! Lighting fireworks off in the street when the neighbor complains and CURSES at her (oh my!) and tells them to stop because their vehicles are covered in debris. She wide eye and yes ma'ams JJ to death while the mute husband stands there silent, he is clearly terrified of her. Every time JJ asks him a question crazy wife answers -which JJ shuts down after the 3rd or 4th Interruption. 

Plaintiff "wins" obvs, halterview shows wife only and how she looooves her neighbors and knows all of their names, their kids names, their grandchildren! Plaintiff says everyone in the neighborhood says she's a bully and nobody likes her. If she lived next door to me I would either move, or sleep with one eye open. What a scary bitch! 

These are the episodes I live for!!! 

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1 hour ago, JD5166 said:

the neighbor complains and CURSES at her (oh my!)

I think I remember her! She may break the law, damage other peoples' property and terrorize the neighbours but she does NOT curse! No way - not ever! And he cursed at her! He CURSED! Is that who I'm thinking of - long "Baby Jane" ringlets, jean shorts and flip flops? Hubby was wearing a hippy-dippy shirt, circa 1968? I thought her husband had something wrong with him, like dementia or some such. Or maybe he's just too frightened to speak which is understandable considering the virago to whom he's married. She's the type who thinks that because she's lived there so long, she has special privileges. I've lived in my house for 24 years, but for some reason I don't feel it gives me the right to set off fireworks in the middle of the street.

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6 hours ago, SRTouch said:

Then we get to hear JJ tell dancing security guard dude to stand still, he's making her sea sick. And yes, quite the performance by dancing man and his gf, who looked terrified to be standing next to dude who might explode at any moment. May just be me, but scared gf looked like the typical abused person - cowering as she was afraid of say something that would light his fuse.

His arrogance and disdain for the proceedings was certainly something to behold. I think he forgot to put up a believable performance as every litigant on these shows must be coached to do. He must have been satisfied with getting a fee trip and weaseling out of any possibility that he might have to fork over some of his own money to settle the case.

As for the wife, I also thought she looked frightened and that she was mulling over every word coming out of her mouth as if worried about the possible consequences at home. But she also may have been just flustered from appearing on TV.

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4 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I think I remember her! She may break the law, damage other peoples' property and terrorize the neighbours but she does NOT curse! No way - not ever! And he cursed at her! He CURSED! Is that who I'm thinking of - long "Baby Jane" ringlets, jean shorts and flip flops? Hubby was wearing a hippy-dippy shirt, circa 1968? I thought her husband had something wrong with him, like dementia or some such. Or maybe he's just too frightened to speak which is understandable considering the virago to whom he's married. She's the type who thinks that because she's lived there so long, she has special privileges. I've lived in my house for 24 years, but for some reason I don't feel it gives me the right to set off fireworks in the middle of the street.

That's the one!!!! She also did the whole head down "sorry Your Honor" like a little girl. F'ing psycho! 

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I just watched "Inshallah", creepy little baby daddy who appeared to be wearing an old-timey nightshirt or maybe had swiped a garment from someone's clothesline on the way over, because no one would deliberately buy a shirt five times too big, would they? JJ rightly didn't believe a word he said, and he when he got to the part where he had to take his baby and race out in the middle of the night to fix up a new place for him and his baby momma, I got it. I might reconsider staying with someone when I've had to call the police due to his behavior. Defs must be relieved to have this freak show out of their house.

I never saw the dopey Ms Landbourne (Landsdowne?) whatever, but wow. She buys a 14 year old beater car from defs, who miraculously gave her a 30 day warranty!!!. She says she called them, wanting her money back, well before the 30 days but gee - wouldn't you know? -she dropped her cellphone in the toilet (or maybe the dog chewed it?) and has no proof of that call. Oh, gee, she's just a helpless little girl and didn't know anything about registered letters or any of that other grown-up stuff (even though she appeared to be well into her 30s at least) so JJ should overlook all her mess ups and give her the money back. At first I thought she was challenged in some way, but she seemed to be just a garden-variety moron/idiot. How she had the nerve to sue someone who gave her a warranty on that old heap is truly mind-boggling. Take your momma and go home, you foolish bitch.

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1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

garden-variety moron/idiot

Ha!!  Love this.   As opposed to the special-variety moron/idiots we see!

 

8 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I think I remember her! She may break the law, damage other peoples' property and terrorize the neighbours but she does NOT curse! No way - not ever! And he cursed at her! He CURSED!

I remember her, too!  Legendary.  And full of baloney.

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On 5/30/2017 at 9:07 PM, Brattinella said:

 

Hubby says the Koons brothers remind him of that picture of the two inbred guys.

They reminded me a bit of those two brothers or cousins or whatever they are who are who compete with each other by one of hem renovating a family's existing home while the other tries to sell the same family a different home that is on the market.  I cannot remember what home improvement network on which the program airs.

 

On 6/1/2017 at 11:02 AM, ItsHelloPattiagain said:

When the case started I thought this was the same tournament my SIL coached at last weekend. He used to play minor league baseball and was invited to coach a super high level 14 and under travel team for a tournament weekend in SW Florida. The kids played several games and then the final team showed up with kids flown in from the Dominican Republic that were over 16 (there's a big difference in muscle strength and size, plus the DR is a virtual ML baseball factory in training). The team he was coaching was understably trounced and these were kids who had played together for quite a while. Apparently they have a slew of bogus birth certificates that they use for the DR players. 

 

My husband was telling me about the 2001 Little League World Series in which a team from the Bronx won with a sensational DR-born pitcher with a bogus birth certificate who was actually two years too old to be eligible for the competition. Unfortunately , the truth wasn't uncovered until after the competition.

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On 5/24/2017 at 7:24 AM, Giant Misfit said:

I hope you R. Crumb lovers saw the documentary, Crumb. It's one of my all-time faves -- and I think I'm gonna sue my brother to get it back since I loaned it him 15 years ago! It's a loan, not a gift, sir!

I second that recommendation.

I've been skipping most of JJ lately. I'm in JJ fatigue. But I saw 14 cats and had to comment on the lawyer plaintiff with man bun!  

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Very late here, but just catching up.

Ridiculous, silly bug-eyed pot grower, fool and loser for life - what a waste of time. He got lambasted for calling CPS as revenge on the defs, but not nearly enough. He deserved to be put in old-time stocks and have people throw tomatoes at him - preferably tomatoes in a tin. There was a female person sitting on his side of the room, just another depressing testament to how sadly desperate women have become that they would "stand by their man" even if he's a ball-less little twerp.

Lavell "The job I does" Tramelle?  OMG.

Plaintiff should have known

when she spoke to Lavell

that he would indeed

be the Tenant From Hell.

His burly ladylove denied any knowledge of how the kitchen cabinets and bathroom sink got ripped out of the wall and tried to speculate that maybe the place was like that when he moved in. "Sit down!"

I get it. When I used to rent and my landlord got irritated because I never actually paid my rent, I trashed the place too. Wouldn't anyone? Isn't that normal behavior?

Actually, the plaintiff is lucky Lavell didn't torch the place. I'm pretty sure he's capable of something like that. I hope she does more research before letting any more scumbags move into her premises.

I still haven't found the inbred Koons brothers.

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On 2017-06-03 at 10:00 AM, AngelaHunter said:

I think I remember her! She may break the law, damage other peoples' property and terrorize the neighbours but she does NOT curse! No way - not ever! And he cursed at her! He CURSED! Is that who I'm thinking of - long "Baby Jane" ringlets, jean shorts and flip flops?

That repeat was on here yesterday. She was one of those people that comes across instantly as dishonest and which I inexplicably despise on sight. Everything she said confirmed my initial impression, including her protestations that they never curse at home and that her son was in shock when the neighbour allegedly did it. Her hallterview was the icing on the cake when she said that she is well-loved and knows everything about all of her neighbours including the names of their pets, their grandkids, their friends, who knows perhaps even their bank account number, etc. That is the behaviour of a nosy busybody who keeps tabs on other people as a hobby and for whatever other nefarious purposes.

She also displayed a mindset that may be common in people who think they can do whatever they want in their community: since the cops wrote in their report that there was no crime committed, it means they are not responsible for anything; she conveniently ignores that civil liability and violation of city regulations are most often not predicated on a criminal act.

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Persian couple are suing their wedding (caterer?  DJ? I can't remember) because they canceled (they claimed postponed) their wedding reception.  Their reason why was good - the wife was losing her baby and was in the hospital.  But the only contract either side could produce said that there was no reimbursement of deposits, which was $900.  In his countersuit the defendant wanted more, but there was no signed agreement to more, so JJ wouldn't hear that.  JJ ruled in favor of the defendant, that he was entitled to keep the deposit.  The bride, in the hallterview, said that people have no compassion and it's all about money.  But, they were the ones suing for money, not him.

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The lady in the car case was exhausting to listen to. Saying over & over again "I have proof! But I don't have it!"... she should really look up the word "Proof" in the dictionary.

 

just because you say you have "proof" doesn't make those words proof.

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1 hour ago, Hellohappylife said:

The lady in the car case was exhausting to listen to. Saying over & over again "I have proof! But I don't have it!"... she should really look up the word "Proof" in the dictionary.

 

just because you say you have "proof" doesn't make those words proof.

No kidding!  Talk about not getting through!  Even after JJ told her the case was dismissed, she kept on. (Maybe she should look that word up, too?) "If you make him get his credit card statements..."  Huh?  Like (a) that would be relevant info, and (b) it's not his job to prove YOUR case! What a 'maroon.'

I WAS worried for about a minute that Ella/ie Mae (!) was going to win by default, since the defendant WAS answering Judy's questions correctly, but she wasn't getting all the info.  We have a judge like that when we go to eviction court - "Just answer the questions I ask!"  But if you ask yes/no questions, as in this case, you may not be getting all the info.  Glad defendant won.  Not at all surprising EM was about to get fired. 

In other news, attended a local high school graduation last night. Student gave a great speech, all delivered in vocal fry.  Sigh. (This was the forum we discussed that, right?)  

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5 minutes ago, SandyToes said:

No kidding!  Talk about not getting through!  Even after JJ told her the case was dismissed, she kept on. (Maybe she should look that word up, too?) "If you make him get his credit card statements..."  Huh?  Like (a) that would be relevant info, and (b) it's not his job to prove YOUR case! What a 'maroon.'

 

She had a lot of nerve, didn't she?  She admitted to not making most of the payments.  

I had a little bit of sympathy for her, since she paid $2500 down plus a few hundred dollars more, and only had the car for a few months.  I think if she hadn't been about to be fired, the defendant wouldn't have repo'd the car.  It was kind of mean of him to accept a payment when he knew he was going to repo the car.  In the end, he came out ahead.  He keeps the payments and the jeep.

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6 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Persian couple are suing their wedding (caterer?  DJ? I can't remember) because they canceled (they claimed postponed) their wedding reception.  Their reason why was good - the wife was losing her baby and was in the hospital.  But the only contract either side could produce said that there was no reimbursement of deposits, which was $900.  In his countersuit the defendant wanted more, but there was no signed agreement to more, so JJ wouldn't hear that.  JJ ruled in favor of the plaintiff, that he was entitled to keep the deposit.  The bride, in the hallterview, said that people have no compassion and it's all about money.  But, they were the ones suing for money, not him.

My sympathy for them was limited. True, something sad happened to them, but it does not mean that the world has to start revolving around their grief and that regular business rules are suddenly suspended; he was perfectly within his right to keep the amount paid. Other suppliers may have accommodated them, although we do not know to what extent nor under which terms exactly because we had to take their word for it, but he is under no obligation to do the same. The plaintiff kept saying he "owed them a service", which is only half true; he owed them a service on a specific date agreed to beforehand. They had to change the date, so he did not owe them anything because he reserved his time for that specific day and did not take or seek other contracts.

JJ made a curious reasoning, holding the defendant to the terms of a contract signed only by him; since when is a half-signed contract properly executed? She did not even need to go through that fiction because they both testified to the price agreed upon initially.

In the following episode, one idiot defendant blindly walked into the very obvious trap JJ laid out for him when he replied that he did not want his property anymore because the plaintiff might have damaged it. The correct ruling would have been to award it to him anyway and to give him X number of days to pick it up or forfeit it. Instead, JJ failed to "make him whole" as goes the legal doctrine she likes to quote, by dismissing his claim outright. I think she based her decision on the fact that she did not like him, justifiably so arguably, but the plaintiff was not very likeable either.

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3 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

I had a little bit of sympathy for her, since she paid $2500 down plus a few hundred dollars more, and only had the car for a few months.  I think if she hadn't been about to be fired, the defendant wouldn't have repo'd the car.  It was kind of mean of him to accept a payment when he knew he was going to repo the car.  In the end, he came out ahead.  He keeps the payments and the jeep.

Yeah, but... I think even if she'd kept her job, she was still waaaay behind in payments! He (basically!) just collected the second half of October's payment, in late January.  As in any type of repo - the buyer agrees to make payments, gets the use of the car, stereo, or HOUSE, in exchange for regular payments. People who have their homes foreclosed on don't get their years of payments back.  The bank gets the money, and the house. She was a sweet young thing, and I'm guessing thought he'd be a soft touch since he was a friendly employer.  Just my take.

Cruising with my mom next week, so no JJ for me!  Whatever will I do?! Fortunately, she scored us the "Beverage Package" so my wine intake will not be affected.  Whew!

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19 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

The bride, in the hallterview, said that people have no compassion and it's all about money.  But, they were the ones suing for money, not him.

I know. That left me all "duhh?" He was willing to forgive the rest of what they owed him, so actually it's the couple who is all about the money. They had a massive sense of entitlement, thinking that everyone they hired should accomodate them, give back money, etc. no matter when the ceremony was.  I don't know who was worse, the husband or wife.  Yes, it was an unfortunate event and I'm sure def was sympathetic, but he's in business, has bills to pay and lost enough income when the wedding was cancelled. He's not running a charitable operation.  Arranging to have a wedding in the middle of a pregnancy probaby isn't the wisest choice, what with all the stress and excitement, but that's what she chose to do.

The most interesting part is when JJ asked him point-blank at least five times, "Why didn't you sign the contract??" He kept trying to reply with irrelevancies and finally just shut up. He would not answer that question.

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17 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

She had a lot of nerve, didn't she?  She admitted to not making most of the payments.  

I had a little bit of sympathy for her, since she paid $2500 down plus a few hundred dollars more, and only had the car for a few months.  I think if she hadn't been about to be fired, the defendant wouldn't have repo'd the car.  It was kind of mean of him to accept a payment when he knew he was going to repo the car.  In the end, he came out ahead.  He keeps the payments and the jeep.

Worse thing he did was not tell her he had it and let her think it had been stolen. I don't know the rules when it comes to repo-ing a vehicle, but seems obvious he skipped a step or two if the car was impounded once the cops got the stolen vehicle report - and then he tries to countersuit for the impound fees!

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14 hours ago, Florinaldo said:

In the following episode, one idiot defendant blindly walked into the very obvious trap JJ laid out for him when he replied that he did not want his property anymore because the plaintiff might have damaged it. The correct ruling would have been to award it to him anyway and to give him X number of days to pick it up or forfeit it. Instead, JJ failed to "make him whole" as goes the legal doctrine she likes to quote, by dismissing his claim outright. I think she based her decision on the fact that she did not like him, justifiably so arguably, but the plaintiff was not very likeable either.

I missed that, but you're absolutely correct. Should have been one of those "you have 5 days to pick up your crap or it will belong to the plaintiff to do with as she sees fit." I guess this time JJ figured it was better TV to ask if he wanted it and dismiss the case  when he said not really. the dude should have won the counterclaim since some of that stuff was obviously his property before he left his family and moved in with a stranger.

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