The Bachelor Season 21: Spoilers and Speculation

[huahaha]

18 minutes ago, slowpoked said:

I would love for Nick to give Nanny Racquel a rose instead of Corinne.

I'm voting regrettable three-way in the bouncy castle. 

[JenE4]

You KNOW nanny Raquel will make her famous cheese pasta with a side of sliced cucumbers for the hometown dinner.

[dom16]

I haven't watched since the first couple of episodes, but I've been keeping up with the Bachelor tag on Twitter lately and I wouldn't be surprised if Raven ends up swooping in and taking the Bachelorette role from Rachel. Her one-liners seem to get just as much buzz as Rachel's entire date.

[ByTor]

I was reading a magazine (Us or People, I don't remember) that was from before the season started.  It had pictures of some of the contestants with some background information.  One of the things that was mentioned is that Danielle L is totally "wrong reasons" and nobody in the house likes her.  Was there ever any word that this is true?  She seems to more or less blend in with the rest of the women, and I'd think if she didn't get along with anybody it would think it would be shown.  I just find it hard to believe.  This article also said Corinne was in a Pitbull video & that Taylor is an amateur underwear model.

[hnygrl]

There was also talk about pre-season that nobody liked Vanessa.

Seeing it now. Rumor has it that the reason the v-ball date went so badly is because the winners (not-vanessa's team) we're supposed to have more time w/Nick. Vanessa had a tantrum and cried. So Nick spent all the date time comforting her. Thus the multiple melt-downs. I don't know...but I'd love love love to see the raw footage.

[dleighg]

If the above is true, if definitely wouldn't make a good story if V ends up "winning" as a) it doesn't make her "look good" and b) makes things rather obvious.

[truthaboutluv]

On 2/7/2017 at 10:39 AM, ByTor said:

I was reading a magazine (Us or People, I don't remember) that was from before the season started.  It had pictures of some of the contestants with some background information.  One of the things that was mentioned is that Danielle L is totally "wrong reasons" and nobody in the house likes her.  Was there ever any word that this is true?

It depends on who and what you believe. RS claims Vanessa and Taylor I think said Danielle was fake and that the other women defended Danielle and this was the start, he claims, of Vanessa being a mini-villain. However, RS himself was the one while the season was filming and only a few of the women were known, said that Danielle would be the "not here for the right reasons" contestant because of her modeling background.

Also there was a rumor of some boyfriend she may or may not have dumped only a few months before going on the show. Plus last night we saw Whitney saying that Danielle wasn't right for Nick and there seemed to be some unaired context to her feelings. The point is this season has been really poorly edited in favor of making it all about the drunk blonde girl with the nanny and so a lot of stuff is being left on the editing floor and leaving viewers confused. 

 

On 2/7/2017 at 2:47 PM, hnygrl said:

Seeing it now. Rumor has it that the reason the v-ball date went so badly is because the winners (not-vanessa's team) we're supposed to have more time w/Nick. Vanessa had a tantrum and cried. So Nick spent all the date time comforting her. Thus the multiple melt-downs. I don't know...but I'd love love love to see the raw footage.

I haven't seen anything about Nick spending the whole time comforting Vanessa, just that all the women on the losing team cried about losing and so he decided to keep them all for the night portion of the date. That wasn't exactly hidden in last night's episode. Unfortunately the episode was edited so poorly that unless you read spoilers, particularly RS's and knew about that aspect of the date, you were confused why everyone was suddenly so emotional and upset. 

Edited February 10, 2017 by truthaboutluv

[Former Nun]

I watch this show SO infrequently that I was happy I chose last night to see the CHOKY (OH-MY-GAWD!!!) scenes (again on Kimmel)...and to see that poor little sensitive waif, Nick, bring on the tears one too many times.  Sniff, sniff.  Is that how he applies for jobs?  Is that how he makes sales?  Run, normal girls!  Stay...crazy girls!  Looks like Corinne would be his best bet.  He can cry.  She can lie...and boss around the servants.  He WILL provide servants, right?

[Wings]

1 hour ago, hnygrl said:

There was also talk about pre-season that nobody liked Vanessa.

Seeing it now. Rumor has it that the reason the v-ball date went so badly is because the winners (not-vanessa's team) we're supposed to have more time w/Nick. Vanessa had a tantrum and cried. So Nick spent all the date time comforting her. Thus the multiple melt-downs. I don't know...but I'd love love love to see the raw footage.

You have to consider the source who is reporting Vanessa's role.  She does not appear to be one who throws a tantrum.  Her talks with Nick have been very calm and her words measured.  She is a genuine and centered woman.  I have not totally warmed to her yet, we have seen so little so I am not defending her out of blind fandom.  

It is humiliating to fight for Nicks attention.  Those who cried were frustrated.  Vanessa had a fabulous one on one and has seen little of Nick since.  I get it how confusion can set in.  I don't think Nick is good at keeping those who are contenders feeling secure.  A clandestine wink across the room, a casual squeeze as he passes by.  He has trouble with eye contact with everyone so I can easily see him totally ignoring Vanessa, not meaning to, despite the fact he is smitten.  

Edited February 7, 2017 by wings707

[Mabinogia]

2 hours ago, Former Nun said:

He WILL provide servants, right?

No, but fear not, Rachel loves serving Corinne so I'm sure she will come live with them just for the sheer joy of being Corinne's nanny.

[hnygrl]

Not to worry. Corrine's a Daddy's girl. Raquel and the "multi-million dollar" excuse to continue her allowance and living expenses (not to mention the Instagram money) will come with her.

He could do worse. And probably will, alas.

[Former Nun]

17 hours ago, hnygrl said:

He could do worse.

Because I watched only one episode, I don't know if Corinne has let him know how RICH she is.  If she has, maybe that's influencing him.  He'd probably like to have a millionaire wife AND a nanny.    (I thought she must have children because of the "nanny" comments.  This board helpe me understand.)

[chocolatine]

19 hours ago, hnygrl said:

Not to worry. Corrine's a Daddy's girl. Raquel and the "multi-million dollar" excuse to continue her allowance and living expenses (not to mention the Instagram money) will come with her.

 

1 hour ago, Former Nun said:

Because I watched only one episode, I don't know if Corinne has let him know how RICH she is.  If she has, maybe that's influencing him.  He'd probably like to have a millionaire wife AND a nanny.    (I thought she must have children because of the "nanny" comments.  This board helpe me understand.)

Nick is definitely a famewhore, but I don't think he's so shallow and materialistic that he would entertain a serious relationship with Corinne. I think the only two reasons why he takes her to hometowns are a) because the producers told him to, and b) because he's curios about the nanny, as we all are.

[hnygrl]

Just a thought.

If Corrine were older? Say 32,33? She'd be perfect for Nick.

She's bold, adventurous, RAW, smart, bossy, entitled, RICH. If she were a decade older she'd be perfect for him

He appears to need someone who will tell him what to do and make him like it. (yeah, I heard what that sounded like after I typed it).

[valen]

On 2/7/2017 at 2:29 PM, dleighg said:

If the above is true, if definitely wouldn't make a good story if V ends up "winning" as a) it doesn't make her "look good" and b) makes things rather obvious.

In Brad's season, he felt bad for Emily and spent the whole race track date comforting her. He brought her a picnic basket one time too, right? He was on his way to a date with another woman, but he dropped off a gift for her? That should have made it really obvious that he was going to choose her but there was still doubt because RS initially said he chose the other woman.

[Former Nun]

1 hour ago, hnygrl said:

He appears to need someone who will tell him what to do and make him like it.

Then it seems so sad that Ms. CHOKY had to leave so early.

[nutty1]

Not sure if this is the correct place for this.....

 

I listened to the Reality Steve podcast with Courtney from Ben's season. It was great. I actually liked her a lot!! She was funny, well spoken, actually quite nice.

http://realitysteve.com/2017/02/09/the-bachelor-nick-spoilers-podcast-11-courtney-robertson-dr-reality-steve/

[Bugs Meany]

On 2/7/2017 at 10:39 AM, ByTor said:

I was reading a magazine (Us or People, I don't remember) that was from before the season started.  It had pictures of some of the contestants with some background information.  One of the things that was mentioned is that Danielle L is totally "wrong reasons" and nobody in the house likes her.  Was there ever any word that this is true?  She seems to more or less blend in with the rest of the women, and I'd think if she didn't get along with anybody it would think it would be shown.

Well, D.Lo's actual job is import car show model and she had over 100K Instagram followers before the show. That's the reddest of "wrong reasons" red flags. And yet tons of unspoiled viewers on social media (who think she really is a 9-to-5 small business owner) call her "the most genuine girl there," even though she's terrible at faking interest in Nick.

[truthaboutluv]

So I wasn't sure if I should post this in the spoilers section or the media thread because it's not really spoiling anything per se. But it seems like Rachel is scheduled to be on Jimmy Kimmel  Live on Monday. Now this seems random and odd in itself but what has many people curious is that Fleiss has been tweeting about some historic franchise announcement that's coming on Monday. So most think she's going to be announced as the next Bachelorette. One small problem with that though, spoilers have Rachel being eliminated at F3 and the promo does clearly show her in Finland with Nick.

And we know Monday is not going to jump that far ahead since they haven't even gotten to HTD. So many are baffled why if that is what is happening, the producers would spoil the season so blatantly when they could have just waited for the WTA to announce her since she would be there if she is indeed eliminated at F3.  Because people can't think of what else this major announcement could be and why she would be on Jimmy Kimmel. 

[Wings]

12 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

So I wasn't sure if I should post this in the spoilers section or the media thread because it's not really spoiling anything per se. But it seems like Rachel is scheduled to be on Jimmy Kimmel  Live on Monday. Now this seems random and odd in itself but what has many people curious is that Fleiss has been tweeting about some historic franchise announcement that's coming on Monday. So most think she's going to be announced as the next Bachelorette. One small problem with that though, spoilers have Rachel being eliminated at F3 and the promo does clearly show her in Finland with Nick.

And we know Monday is not going to jump that far ahead since they haven't even gotten to HTD. So many are baffled why if that is what is happening, the producers would spoil the season so blatantly when they could have just waited for the WTA to announce her since she would be there if she is indeed eliminated at F3.  Because people can't think of what else this major announcement could be and why she would be on Jimmy Kimmel. 

They are doing interviews before it is over which is new.  Ellen has had both Corine and Nick on, not together.  Nick has been on Kelly Live and another one or two.  

Fleiss' tweets don't mean much unless prefaced  by KABOOM! and even then, not so much.  LOL! There is a rumor that Andi is coming on to give him advice.  CH said another date was arranged for Nick (Andi probably) and he is not sure it is a good thing but it will send Nick into a tail spin (paraphrasing).  There is some hype up about Monday so I wait with guarded anticipation.  :^)

I posted the link to the CH interview in the episode thread a day or so ago. 

Edited February 10, 2017 by wings707

[truthaboutluv]

Nick doing promo is not weird - he's the lead. They always do promo during the season. He has had an unusual amount this week but not strange. And while Corinne was still on the show, she's been all the talk this season so Ellen having her on wasn't that strange. Apparently I heard Olivia appeared on her show during Ben's season as well. What is odd about this Rachel news is that there is nothing really so far that would explain her appearance, smack in the middle of the season, on a talk show.

She hasn't been controversial, as liked as she appears to be on the boards, she's actually not one of the more popular people on social media with only a handful of followers compared to some of the other women. There are no spoilers or rumors of any craziness that happens with her. Ii mean RS did say the supposed argument he heard about between her and Vanessa was in Bimini which is where they go in this week's episode but would that really warrant a Kimmel appearance. And will they even show this, what with this being the episode Corinne tries to get Nick to experience her platinum vagine?

Edited February 10, 2017 by truthaboutluv

[Wings]

I can see having Rachael on the night of her big fight with Vanessa. Ratings must be low. 

[peachmangosteen]

Based on how the editing's been going this season I can't really see them showing a Rachel/Vanessa fight even if it did in fact happen. But I really hope it happened and that they show it because the show is in desperate need of some non-Corinne related drama.

[Wings]

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

Based on how the editing's been going this season I can't really see them showing a Rachel/Vanessa fight even if it did in fact happen. But I really hope it happened and that they show it because the show is in desperate need of some non-Corinne related drama.

Totally agree!

[yorklee2]

22 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

So I wasn't sure if I should post this in the spoilers section or the media thread because it's not really spoiling anything per se. But it seems like Rachel is scheduled to be on Jimmy Kimmel  Live on Monday. Now this seems random and odd in itself but what has many people curious is that Fleiss has been tweeting about some historic franchise announcement that's coming on Monday. So most think she's going to be announced as the next Bachelorette. One small problem with that though, spoilers have Rachel being eliminated at F3 and the promo does clearly show her in Finland with Nick.

And we know Monday is not going to jump that far ahead since they haven't even gotten to HTD. So many are baffled why if that is what is happening, the producers would spoil the season so blatantly when they could have just waited for the WTA to announce her since she would be there if she is indeed eliminated at F3.  Because people can't think of what else this major announcement could be and why she would be on Jimmy Kimmel. 

I saw a link on here (can't remember if it was under the regular episode columns or the media thread) that someone had posted of Chris H being interviewed by a  magazine (can't remember which one) where he said that Nick would really be in for a shock coming up and things would not be as smooth sailing for him for the remainder of the show. The show does this almost every year to try to throw people off of the eventually outcome but I wonder if the story and Rachel's appearance on Kimmel could be connected in any way.

Edited February 10, 2017 by yorklee2

[Wings]

1 minute ago, yorklee2 said:

I saw a link on here (can't remember if it was under the regular episode columns or the media thread) that someone had posted of Chris H being interviewed by a  magazine (can't remember which one) where he said that Nick would really be in for a shock coming up and things would not be as smooth sailing for him for the remainder of the show. The show does this almost every year to try to throw people off of the eventually outcome but I wonder if the story and Rachel's appearance on Kimmel could be connected in any way.

Yes, I posted it in the episode thread. 

[yorklee2]

4 minutes ago, wings707 said:

Yes, I posted it in the episode thread. 

Ok thanks and what say you? Do you think there's a possible connection?

Edit: Ok just saw your post above. Must have posted while I was typing mine. That makes sense that Andi coming on would be the big shocker/shake up Chris was referring to.

Edited February 10, 2017 by yorklee2

[yorklee2]

44 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I can see having Rachael on the night of her big fight with Vanessa. Ratings must be low. 

Possibly protecting Rachel's image if they air supposed fight? Assuming she is the next B'ette?

Edited February 10, 2017 by yorklee2

[Wings]

23 minutes ago, yorklee2 said:

Ok thanks and what say you? Do you think there's a possible connection?

Edit: Ok just saw your post above. Must have posted while I was typing mine. That makes sense that Andi coming on would be the big shocker/shake up Chris was referring to.

CH just said an extra date.  The rumor that Andi comes on is from another site.  

[yorklee2]

1 minute ago, wings707 said:

CH just said an extra date.  The rumor that Andi comes on is from another site.  

That's probably how the rumor started. People trying to figure out who the extra date was Chris was talking about. That would shake things up but I hope that doesn't happen. I didn't watch Andi's season but from posts I've read I don't have a good impression of her or her season and I hate when they bring back old dates or possible outside love interests like that. That's what gave me a initial bad impression of Nick when they brought him on Kaitlyn's season. It's not fair to the other contestants and always makes the intruder look bad.

[truthaboutluv]

The Andi rumor came from people on the Bach and Bachette site noting that Andi posted an Instagram of herself in a hotel very similar to the one that the F4 rose ceremony took place. I think Chris Harrison or one of the show people tweeted out a picture before the F4 rose ceremony. So basically they thought it was a bit suspicious.  

Then RS later tweeted something about the show doing another lame storyline and that convinced some even more that Andi wasn't just randomly at the hotel. Eventually RS confirmed in his spoilers that she shows up at F4 to give Nick some "advice". So no, the Andi stuff has nothing to do with Chris Harrison's comment about an unexpected date in this upcoming episode. 

Edited February 11, 2017 by truthaboutluv

[yorklee2]

32 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

The Andi rumor came from people on the Bach and Bachette site noting that Andi posted an Instagram of herself in a hotel very similar to the one that the F4 rose ceremony was happening. I think Chris Harrison or one of the show people tweeted out a picture before the F4 rose ceremony. So basically they thought it was a bit suspicious.  Then RS later tweeted something about the show doing another lame storyline so that convinced some even more Andi wasn't just randomly at the hotel. Eventually RS confirmed in his spoilers that she shows up at F4 to give Nick some advice or whatever. So no, the Andi stuff has nothing to do with Chris Harrison's comment about an unexpected date in this upcoming episode. 

Ok thanks for clearing that up for me.

[CindyBee]

Reality Steve just tweeted out that Rachel is going to be announced as the next lead on Jimmy Kimmel tonight.

Happy for her but not sure why they couldn't wait till "The Women Tell" episode.   Guess Fleiss and company want to get as much hype for the season and well try to find a few decent guys to offset all the Chad wannabes.

[dleighg]

^I'm confused. Isn't Rachel still in the running?

[CindyBee]

7 minutes ago, dleighg said:

^I'm confused. Isn't Rachel still in the running?

Yes, she doesn't go out till the final 3.  

Guess at this point ABC and Fleiss could care less about officially spoiling Nick's season and just want to get the word out about the new black Bachelorette.  

Edited February 13, 2017 by CindyBee

[Mabinogia]

How many are even left? How many eps are left? I mean, the way he's been picking them off he could get down to a final three in one episode. lol

Why the rush to announce her before she's kicked off?

This is all very strange, unless certain spoilers are wrong.

[CindyBee]

Rachel being in the final 3 isn't wrong as Fleiss/ABC even put her in the preview with Nick in some winter scene toasting to their time in Finland!   So she has three more episodes to go:

Tonight is final Final 6 where she has a 1-1 date that can be edited down to nothing, if they want to ignore her "connection" with Nick

February 20:  Hometowns to meet her Dad the judge; can be edited to get the audience in favor of the family Lindsey

February 27: Final 3 in Finland;  no clue how this is going to be edited; maybe lots of wintery scenes but nothing about them as a "couple"

Edited February 13, 2017 by CindyBee

[gator12]

Yeah for Rachel, I'll be surprise if she get a good pool of guys though. It will be a bunch for personal trainers type like Shawn B. or former I wasn't good enough athletes like that guy Andi chose 

[MakeMeLaugh]

If Bachelorette wants to be so "groundbreaking" as to choose a person of color as its star (okay, maybe groundbreaking would have been a long time ago), then the producers are probably going to be picky about the bachelors, so I imagine they want the word out there as far in advance as possible so men know whose show they are applying to be on and she will end up with the best guys ever. It's going to be the Most Obviously Diverse Show ever!  

Edited February 13, 2017 by MakeMeLaugh

[Wings]

I really hope they listen to her when it comes to the type of man that appeals to her.  They would have to be smart and have a good job for starters.  They don't want their first lead of color fail, right?  

[gator12]

I don't think they care if she fails or not. They didn't care when their first 15 Bachelors and Bachelorettes at failed relationship that ended 6 months after the AFTR. They will cast people for drama and something they just have losers that make for a boring season like Jojo's group of guys.

[huahaha]

More than anything, I hope they go back to spectacular dates and locations. Ben H's, JoJo's, and now Nick's seasons have been weak. I'm watching Ben Flajnik's season now, and those were locations! Napa, San Francisco, Utah, Belize, Panama, Switzerland! Jumping into water from helicopters, swimming with sharks, climbing up the Bay Bridge.

Half the show is travelogue, and Wisconsin farms and slave mansions don't cut it. There's no point in going to St. Thomas either if all we see is the volleyball court...

[Mabinogia]

12 minutes ago, huahaha said:

Half the show is travelogue, and Wisconsin farms and slave mansions don't cut it. There's no point in going to St. Thomas either if all we see is the volleyball court...

OMG that's why I don't like it as much anymore. I mean, it's always been full of pretty, shallow people causing needless drama, but at least before I got to see really exciting dates and beautiful locations around the world. So far the only thing that peaked my interest this season was the Zero G plane. I wanted so much to be an astronaut when I was a kid so that date really did it for me. Volleyball could have been played on any beach anywhere. Didn't need to hop on a plane to go to that date. I miss the travel.

I'm not sure now how I feel about a Rachel season. I like Rachel, a lot, though my opinion of her dropped knowing she said yes to doing this shit again, but I'm mostly worried about how badly TIIC will handle a minority lead season. It's long overdue but my faith in the people who run this show having any human decency whatsoever is long passed.

[gator12]

I don't think they will ever go back to the spectacular dates and locations of the old seasons.

1 minute ago, Mabinogia said:

OMG that's why I don't like it as much anymore. I mean, it's always been full of pretty, shallow people causing needless drama, but at least before I got to see really exciting dates and beautiful locations around the world. So far the only thing that peaked my interest this season was the Zero G plane. I wanted so much to be an astronaut when I was a kid so that date really did it for me. Volleyball could have been played on any beach anywhere. Didn't need to hop on a plane to go to that date. I miss the travel.

I'm not sure now how I feel about a Rachel season. I like Rachel, a lot, though my opinion of her dropped knowing she said yes to doing this shit again, but I'm mostly worried about how badly TIIC will handle a minority lead season. It's long overdue but my faith in the people who run this show having any human decency whatsoever is long passed.

I don't know how people will reacted if next season is not full of minorities Bachelors and she doesn't pick a Black man. That a lot of pressure on her for that s*** show.

[Nowhere]

1 hour ago, MakeMeLaugh said:

If Bachelorette wants to be so "groundbreaking" as to choose a person of color as its star (okay, maybe groundbreaking would have been a long time ago), then the producers are probably going to be picky about the bachelors, so I imagine they want the word out there as far in advance as possible so men know whose show they are applying to be on and she will end up with the best guys ever. It's going to be the Most Obviously Diverse Show ever!  

I was going to say something similar. Black men probably don't apply to the show as much as white men. But if they can get the word out far enough in advance, they may get some really good black applicants and also the white applicants would be men who appreciate black women. In other words, there won't be a bunch of lily white entitled famewhores who may leave the show as soon as they find out the lead is a black woman (gasp). If Rachel is the lead, it may be the most right reasons season we've ever seen. She is absolutely amazing, smart, beautiful, and kind. And I'll say the same even if we do get to see her rip Vanessa a new asshole. But I'm sure we won't have the pleasure of witnessing such an interaction. 

[gator12]

Most right reasons season? I doubt it. Famewhore doesn't care who the leads are, they will stay for the free trips and the vacations. 

They start filming in a month, I don't think that enough time to get none famewhore, none personal trainers, unemployed type of guys to apply and ask their employees months of from work.

Maybe she'll get a Shawn Booth to quit his job and chase her. Maybe I'll actually like that coupling b/c I can't stand Shawn and Kaitlyn. 

[Nowhere]

True the famewhores don't care but I think Rachel would get more genuine applicants. I can't be certain but I think the men chosen to be on the show don't actually know who the lead will be before they're cast. So basically it's a bunch of men who don't care which one of the F5 is the lead and they don't care if they choose a lead from somewhere else. They'll still show up and proclaim that they were praying for a chance with that particular woman even though they had no idea it would be her when they applied. Reminds me of JoJo's season when all the men made up a song about her and sang it together like a bunch of creepers. They didn't even know for sure it would be JoJo. Most of them probably thought they were getting Caila but here they are singing about their undying love for JoJo. So if men know far in advance who the lead will be then the applicants will really be there for Rachel.

[gator12]

If we are to believe RS, the producers have already cast their contestant, its pretty much set and with the usual suspects. 

This is probably be like when the announce Nick early for the Bachelor and yet most of these women look like they were cast for Luke and Chase, and Nick had more than a month before he started filming his season.

I think the producers cast their contestant before they pick their leads and the announcing early stuff has nothing to do with picking contestant that are just the lead but just for publicity purposes.

[hnygrl]

The way I see is this: She was hand-picked from the flock for such a time as this. Not because they wanted a black Bachelorette. Oh no. That's not why.

This is the only way they're ever going to get a Black Bachelor.

That's why they picked her. Usually there's a couple of black guys, but they always turn out to Not-Be-Bachelor material. This way, they can do what they did with Rachel: Hand pick a black guy from the flock of those who apply and tell him if he doesn't screw it up and do as they say, he's the next Bachelor.

It's not all that groundbreaking or progressive. It's just another link in the chain.

Oh, he'll be Everything We've Ever Wanted a Bachelor to Be/Why This is Just Like Old Times. Cause he's been marketed that way. You know, like they did with Rachel.

[gator12]

4 minutes ago, hnygrl said:

The way I see is this: She was hand-picked from the flock for such a time as this. Not because they wanted a black Bachelorette. Oh no. That's not why.

This is the only way they're ever going to get a Black Bachelor.

That's why they picked her. Usually there's a couple of black guys, but they always turn out to Not-Be-Bachelor material. This way, they can do what they did with Rachel: Hand pick a black guy from the flock of those who apply and tell him if he doesn't screw it up and do as they say, he's the next Bachelor.

It's not all that groundbreaking or progressive. It's just another link in the chain.

Oh, he'll be Everything We've Ever Wanted a Bachelor to Be/Why This is Just Like Old Times. Cause he's been marketed that way. You know, like they did with Rachel.

You think the show will play the game that the producers wants her too?

Oh the interracial relationship haters are going to have a rough time if you are right. I would say I'm looking forward to the tears from the haters but for this trash show? I don't know. lol

Edited February 13, 2017 by gator12