Kail and Javi

[SheTalksShit]

Their marriage is REALLY on the rocks and for once, it seems like Javi is OVER it. 

 

They unfollowed each other on Twitter in late March, after a disagreement about Javi and some woman on snapchat (he's deployed). 

 

And as of today, they have yet to re-follow each other. Or communicate on social media at all. 

 

And occasionally, Javi tweets things like, "Soon it will be too late." 

"Things change, people change, feelings change too.. Damn come and see me has me in my feelings right now."

etc. 

 

 

[Katt]

Ah, vague attention seeking statuses, don't ya just love 'em? FFS

[FlowerofCarnage]

So Javi is doing all the posting and Kail.is out there, living her life. Lol He must have really gotten on her nerves that to the point thatshe is willing to forgo those sweet Air Force benefits.

[CofCinci]

So Javi is doing all the posting and Kail.is out there, living her life. Lol He must have really gotten on her nerves that to the point thatshe is willing to forgo those sweet Air Force benefits.

Military benefits and the security provided by those direct deposits on the first and the fifteenth were very attractive to her before the TM2 money started to roll in. With her own cash, she has no need for GI Javi. At this point now, her money is used to support to entire household - which includes Javi's parents. She's watching her dollar bills go towards Javi and Family.... Their marriage was over the minute she realized that she'd be better off financially without Javi and his dependents.

[Birdee]

I'm interested to see how long they'll hold out before making an announcement. Kail won't want to lose face with TM2 fans, especially the ones who said she got married/pregnant/pretend married too fast. Kail does not like to be wrong!

[Mkay]

I redownloaded snapchat (I used to have it, never used it) yesterday after reading in comments how Kail is partying it up since Javi is gone. man oh man is she ever!! Some guy driving her car. In the newest video it looks like guys and girls (from school?) having a huge cookout and guess who is there? Vee and Jo.

[SheTalksShit]

So Javi is doing all the posting and Kail.is out there, living her life. Lol He must have really gotten on her nerves that to the point thatshe is willing to forgo those sweet Air Force benefits.

no she was posting stuff about how you don't realize what you have till it's gone, etc. she ALSO briefly got dreads right after their exchange, but took them out a day later.  

 

But whether they stay together or not, Kail is a survivor and will be ok, in the end, IMO. 

 

I do think she's grown a little in the last 2 seasons, she doesn't seem QUITE as selfish or cold as she used to be. 

[SheTalksShit]

Military benefits and the security provided by those direct deposits on the first and the fifteenth were very attractive to her before the TM2 money started to roll in. With her own cash, she has no need for GI Javi. At this point now, her money is used to support to entire household - which includes Javi's parents. She's watching her dollar bills go towards Javi and Family.... Their marriage was over the minute she realized that she'd be better off financially without Javi and his dependents.

you think so? 

 

I know Javi joined the Air Force for the benefits and they got married during the 4th season of Teen Mom 2, which was thought to be their final season. So you're right, financially, she was in a different position then than she is now, because she did not know the show would be renewed for more seasons (which means more MTV paychecks). 

 

I never thought about that before, but you may be right. 

Edited April 21, 2016 by SheTalksShit

[GreatKazu]

LOL Why a separate thread? Especially for a couple who is likely headed for divorce.

[SheTalksShit]

LOL Why a separate thread? Especially for a couple who is likely headed for divorce.

to discuss the status of their relationship. they've been hush-hush about it but the way they're acting makes me wonder what's going on. 

[CofCinci]

When does Javi's deployment end? June? Will we see a separation/divorce announcement as soon as he returns and can meet with an attorney?

[Maharincess]

Kazu, I don't see the need for a seperate thread either. Why can't the marriage stuff just go in her thread?

Nobody else has a couple's thread.

[SheTalksShit]

When does Javi's deployment end? June? Will we see a separation/divorce announcement as soon as he returns and can meet with an attorney?

I think it ends in August. And possibly, if they don't work it out by then. Judging by the fact that it's been 3 weeks and they still haven't re-followed each other or mentioned each other on social media at all, it seems whatever they had was more than just a fight. 

[GreatKazu]

We have discussed their marriage in her thread. Just like we discuss all of Leah's relationships in her thread and Jenelle's relationships in her thread. JMO but this is too much.

[DangerousMinds]

Their marriage is REALLY on the rocks and for once, it seems like Javi is OVER it. 

 

They unfollowed each other on Twitter in late March, after a disagreement about Javi and some woman on snapchat (he's deployed). 

 

And as of today, they have yet to re-follow each other. Or communicate on social media at all. 

 

And occasionally, Javi tweets things like, "Soon it will be too late." 

"Things change, people change, feelings change too.. Damn come and see me has me in my feelings right now."

etc.

WHAT feelings exactly? I have no idea what that means.

[DNR]

I think it ends in August. And possibly, if they don't work it out by then. Judging by the fact that it's been 3 weeks and they still haven't re-followed each other or mentioned each other on social media at all, it seems whatever they had was more than just a fight.

Of course this is a tv show and I know nothing about their life but it seemed to me that Kail could barely contain her glee when Javi revealed he was deploying. It seems she's already emotionally checked out of the marriage. I havent seen the goodbye scene yet but I'd bet Kail was jumping on her bed Home Alone style after his departure :)

[NikSac]

Of course this is a tv show and I know nothing about their life but it seemed to me that Kail could barely contain her glee when Javi revealed he was deploying. It seems she's already emotionally checked out of the marriage. I havent seen the goodbye scene yet but I'd bet Kail was jumping on her bed Home Alone style after his departure :)

 

From the Sneak Peek I saw the massive grin on her face when Javi said he was going to be gone. He says "I'm not gonna see you babe" and Kail smiles and says "I know, it's gonna be good."  I'm curious now to see the whole goodbye scene.

[BitterApple]

Of course this is a tv show and I know nothing about their life but it seemed to me that Kail could barely contain her glee when Javi revealed he was deploying. It seems she's already emotionally checked out of the marriage. I havent seen the goodbye scene yet but I'd bet Kail was jumping on her bed Home Alone style after his departure :)

Kail has never been a touchy-feely person, but yeah, when your first reaction to the deployment news is "you'll go cool places and meet new friends," that's a pretty strong indicator you're not entirely broken up about your husband being gone.

In the good-bye scene, Kail looked like she was mentally guesstimating the traffic and wondering if she could make it home in time for Happy Hour with her girlfriends.

[neatoburrito]

She kept saying "it hasn't hit me yet" the whole time to excuse the fact that she clearly didn't care. During the whole goodbye scene she had a weird smirk on her face. I feel like she's been wanting to end it for a while now, but was trying to push Javi to do it because she wanted to look like the victim again. 

[CofCinci]

Javi's selling their Justin Bieber tickets.

They're over.

[Brooklynista]

Javi's selling their Justin Bieber tickets.

They're over.

That's really the sign isn't it? Cause if we can't rock out to the Beib together, then there just ain't no hope for us.

[BitterApple]

Javi's selling their Justin Bieber tickets.

They're over.

Unless you're escorting your 12 year-old daughter, no grown man should ever be attending a Bieber concert. I'd give a pass on Taylor Swift, but Bieber? I just can't...

[CofCinci]

Unless you're escorting your 12 year-old daughter, no grown man should ever be attending a Bieber concert. I'd give a pass on Taylor Swift, but Bieber? I just can't...

I can see Kail pulling a "if you loved me, you'd get us tickets to see Justin Beiber" type manipulation. I think the tickets went on sale in the fall (my daughter wanted some), so perhaps he purchased them during the brief sliver of 2015 where they were working on their marriage/getting pregnant.

[DangerousMinds]

No grown man OR woman.

[leighroda]

Unless you're escorting your 12 year-old daughter, no grown man should ever be attending a Bieber concert. I'd give a pass on Taylor Swift, but Bieber? I just can't...

He also has a deep love for Miley Cyrus

[Mkay]

He also has a deep love for Miley Cyrus

And Kanye West

[GreatKazu]

No grown man OR woman.

Well that explains it. Javi is no man and Karl is no woman.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Military benefits and the security provided by those direct deposits on the first and the fifteenth were very attractive to her before the TM2 money started to roll in. With her own cash, she has no need for GI Javi. At this point now, her money is used to support to entire household - which includes Javi's parents. She's watching her dollar bills go towards Javi and Family.... Their marriage was over the minute she realized that she'd be better off financially without Javi and his dependents.

Kali is really gonna miss that free, always available childcare......more than she realizes now. I also suspect Javi's mom is probably doing a lot of the food prep and cleaning at their house.

I get that it really isn't free since they live with (off?) Kail, who makes the most money and likely ends up supporting them all to some degree. But good luck finding a trust-worthy, always available, affordable babysitter for Lincoln all day, in the evenings while she goes to Crossfit, and especially when she goes on vacations or plastic surgery trips sans kids. My guess is she'll be trying to work out her relationship with Suzi again in no time so she has some help.

Edited April 25, 2016 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Oh and I totally think that having a separate "Kail and Javi" thread is really going to inflate Big Papi's ego.....

[Mkay]

Oh and I totally think that having a separate "Kail and Javi" thread is really going to inflate Big Papi's ego.....

Big puta Papi. Hahaha

Who is going to buy all his concert tickets and Kanye shoes now?

Edited April 25, 2016 by Mkay

[Rebecca]

I'd assume Javi's parents will still watch Lincoln, as he is their grandson. And since Jo moved nearby she can have him take care of Isaac... I think Kailyn will have no trouble taking her many vacations.

Edited April 25, 2016 by Rebecca

[truelovekiss]

Javi's selling their Justin Bieber tickets.

They're over.

Oh Jesus God, no!!!

[CofCinci]

Are Javi's parents still living in Kail's house?

[truelovekiss]

I would love to know more about Big Papi's Mami and Papi. And siblings. Is Javi their youngest? Do we know how many children they have? Is it just him and Lidia? I wonder how they get along with Karl.

[GreatKazu]

Big puta Papi. Hahaha

Bwahahaha...Perfect!!!

[FlowerofCarnage]

If the rumors of Kail's infidelity are true, I think  Big Cabrón would be more fitting. LOL

[Maire]

Mail could not even bother to sit next to Javi at the party. Wow. Poor Issac's goodbye was more heartfelt.

[ReadMeLattice]

If anyone cheated, I actually believe it was Javi. He is wildly jealous, and we all know what that usually means. And he's a total misogynist. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he cheated. Kailyn cheated once on her semi-casual boyfriend at 18 with her baby's father and promptly owned up. I don't see her making that choice again. Javi with another woman 5 minutes after Kail? Or even while overseas? Wouldn't shock me in the least.

[Maharincess]

I finally figured out what Karl's reaction to Javi's deployment reminded me of.

It was the same reaction the Dr said George Costanza had upon hearing his fiancée had died from licking poisonous envelopes: Restrained jubilation.

That was Karl's exact reaction.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Maharincess

[BitterApple]

I finally figured out what Karl's reaction to Javi's deployment reminded me of.

It was the same reaction the Dr said George Costanza had upon hearing his fiancée had died from licking poisonous envelopes: Restrained jubilation.

That was Karl's exact reaction.

Lulz! Susan and the toxic envelopes! Spot on!

[SPLAIN]

LOL that's right, Maharincess.

[Rebecca]

If anyone cheated, I actually believe it was Javi. He is wildly jealous, and we all know what that usually means. And he's a total misogynist. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he cheated. Kailyn cheated once on her semi-casual boyfriend at 18 with her baby's father and promptly owned up. I don't see her making that choice again. Javi with another woman 5 minutes after Kail? Or even while overseas? Wouldn't shock me in the least.

It would shock me only because I can't imagine too many want Javi, but I shouldn't negate the stupidity of anything attached to "fame" for some.

Restrained jubilation is hilarious! But I feel sad for Isaac..I wish Javi didn't emphasize and promise how he'd be back home so much to him.

[NikSac]

It would shock me only because I can't imagine too many want Javi, but I shouldn't negate the stupidity of anything attached to "fame" for some.

Restrained jubilation is hilarious! But I feel sad for Isaac..I wish Javi didn't emphasize and promise how he'd be back home so much to him.

 

Maybe some people just like ginormous lips?  It's kind of sad really. Women pay a fortune to get lips like his.

 

I feel so sad for Isaac too. I know he's hurting the most out of all of them - both in the time that they were filming and currently.

[truelovekiss]

I can see Javi cheating for several reasons. Mainly spite. If he thinks Kail cheated/is cheating while he's deployed, he would probably go balls to the wall with revenge cheating. 

 

I do feel bad for Javi. He's 23 years old, but with the responsibilities of a 33 year old. Kail put a lot of pressure on him to get those benefits, and like a fool in love, he went along with it. I don't think he fully understood what being a military man would entail. (I think a lot of young kids that enlist soon after hs don't fully know what they signed on for until they're there)

[ReadMeLattice]

On 4/26/2016 at 1:53 AM, Rebecca said:

It would shock me only because I can't imagine too many want Javi, but I shouldn't negate the stupidity of anything attached to "fame" for some.

Restrained jubilation is hilarious! But I feel sad for Isaac..I wish Javi didn't emphasize and promise how he'd be back home so much to him.

Have you ever seen Javi's Instagram? Women are obsessed with him, begging him to leave Kail and take them, telling him what they'd do to him...hundreds of thirsty comments on every photo. 

Edited April 28, 2016 by Lm2162

[evilmindatwork]

I will never understand Javi. I am 28 years old,  recently out of a 10 year relationship/3 year marriage, but without kids, and I hesitate before I date a parent. Not that I wouldn't date a parent but I feel like I am in a different place in life than someone with parental responsibilities. Also, to be honest, I don't really run across many parents within my dating peer group currently (I live in a major city). Javi was almost 10 years younger than me when he met Karl-- why would 18/19 year old, who seemed to be living a fairly responsible life, with average/slightly above average attractiveness want to tie themselves down to someone with so much baggage? 

[Birdee]

I think Javi wanting to be with Kail boiled down to two things: She was his first piece of tail and he was attracted to being a pseudo-celebrity because he loves having his ego stroked.

Edited April 28, 2016 by Birdee

[gunderda]

1 hour ago, evilmindatwork said:

I will never understand Javi. I am 28 years old,  recently out of a 10 year relationship/3 year marriage, but without kids, and I hesitate before I date a parent. Not that I wouldn't date a parent but I feel like I am in a different place in life than someone with parental responsibilities. Also, to be honest, I don't really run across many parents within my dating peer group currently (I live in a major city). Javi was almost 10 years younger than me when he met Karl-- why would 18/19 year old, who seemed to be living a fairly responsible life, with average/slightly above average attractiveness want to tie themselves down to someone with so much baggage? 

I don't get it either.  I'm 32, single, childless, and I still don't want to date a parent lol 

And not because I like to go out and party (cause I don't do that either) but I just don't think I can deal with child responsibilities. Or bio mom drama.

[FlowerofCarnage]

10 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Have you ever seen Javi's Instagram? Women are obsessed with him, begging him to leave Kail and take them, telling him what they'd do to him...hundreds of thirsty comments on every photo. 

I think watching Javi treat a child that is not his as his own has endeared him to many a single-mother  dealing with an absentee baby daddy or a Adam-like  BD.

Edited April 29, 2016 by FlowerofCarnage

[SPLAIN]

5 hours ago, Birdee said:

I think Javi wanting to be with Kail boiled down to two things: She was his first piece of tail and he was attracted to being a pseudo-celebrity because he loves having his ego stroked.

My belief is she was his first piece of ass. 

Kail once apologized to Jo on one of the early reunion shows for  "taking his youth away".  She rambled on as if his life had been turned upside down, and how she was responsible. She said this while bawling her eyes out. It led me to think she was Jo's first. JMO.

Edited April 28, 2016 by SPLAIN