Season 34 Spoilers & Rumors

[ProfCrash]

Vytas was pissed that his pregame alliance didn't advance him in the game. He is a sore loser. Everyone who playing a second time is aware of what it takes to be out there and that only one person is going to win. The remaining 15-17 people (depending on the season) are going to be out there and lose. I think the insistence that he go home, the spoiling, and his shitty attitude is why he won't be brought back. His comments about his edit and his problems with the edit reached Foley levels, which was silly because they really were not that bad.

Russell is an asshole but a popular asshole. I doubt we will ever see him again because no one wants to play with him. He is a guaranteed first out in any game he returns to. He got away with the crap he pulled the first two seasons because know one knew who he was. The third time he played the newbies were all "Hell know, Russell must go." I almost think that the tribe that was saddled with him in a fourth season would just sit down at the start of the immunity competition just to make sure that they lost so they could vote him off. I really think that the fans of his game underestimate how awful he is in game and how no one wants anything to do with him. He also spoiled the seasons he was on but I am pretty sure that there wasn't direct evidence until his third season when CBS finally caught him red handed by going after the person he gave the info to. But I could be wrong about that.

I do not remember hearing about Sandra spoiling a season but then Russell was the one spoiling Heros v Villains and I don't remember Pearl Islands being overly spoiled. Sandra will be asked back every All Star season because she has won twice. Like her game or not, she is the only two time winner and there is no way for TPTB to overlook that.

[thehepburn]

39 minutes ago, ProfCrash said:

 

I do not remember hearing about Sandra spoiling a season but then Russell was the one spoiling Heros v Villains and I don't remember Pearl Islands being overly spoiled. Sandra will be asked back every All Star season because she has won twice. Like her game or not, she is the only two time winner and there is no way for TPTB to overlook that.

Actually, it was Sandra's mouthpiece that gave the EXACT and CORRECT boot order for HvV, the first time the boot order spoiler was 100% correct. Russell's mouthpiece, Missyrae, was doing his usual vague spoilers ("X goes far, etc") that season.

[thehepburn]

Vytas's so-called spoiling is a mountain out of a molehill. He is the first boot who liked a photo on IG and whose FB posted that he will be conducting a yoga class. That is the extent of his spoiling. In the meanwhile, a mostly accurate boot order spoiler happened that season that he had nothing to do with.

 

Also, this:

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2015/12/vytas-baskauskas-survivor-cambodia-second-chance-reunion-finale/

Edited June 9, 2016 by thehepburn
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[thehepburn]

Terry's leaving spoiler was directly traced back to Terry's wife and was probably the most well known accurate spoiler pre-season. Yet Terry wasn't banned from the reunion. 

Edited June 9, 2016 by thehepburn

[thehepburn]

Again, the Terry spoiler came from Terry's wife. Not local news. Even after the Terry wife FB source was verified, it was hard to find media coverage of it.

[azshadowwalker]

2 hours ago, Winston9-DT3 said:

 

Brandon had domestic violence convictions before playing?   I'm not finding that on google.  Do you have more info?  I'm surprised they'd cast him with that.  

Yes, he did. It was discussed on TWOP quite a bit. I will look for links when I get home, and add them to a more appropriate thread.

[fishcakes]

I doubt the producers are going to get pissy about Terry's wife posting about it on FB or, for that matter, talking to other family and friends about it, which is probably also precluded by the contract. Even if it did inadvertently spoil that Terry left the game early, his leaving likely had zero impact on the rest of the season. The show's contract is with Terry, not his wife, and their son came pretty close to death; I can't see the show punishing them for prioritizing that over a fairly minor game event.

[slowpoked]

On 6/8/2016 at 2:00 AM, NutMeg said:

But what did I miss about Troyzan being a creeper? I didn't watch that Ponderosa, so please tell. 

It wasn't at Ponderosa. Vytas is the one that pulled the stunt at Ponderosa about leaving early. Re: Troyzan, it wasn't shown on his season but afterwards, he did some interviews where he mentioned trying to take some peaks at Christina Cha's and Chelsea's "taters", as he liked to call them, during their stay at the island. He was joking of course, considering he seems to still be in touch and friendly with his fellow OW players. I'm just weirded out that a 50+ year old player would say something like that, or do that to much younger women. But he photographs bikini models for a living, so maybe him saying those things is just really for jokes and women are comfortable around him.

I do remember a secret scene in OW though where just before Troyzan was voted off, he decided to act off his rocker to weird out his tribemates, but he mentioned it in a joking, fun way. So he went skinny-dipping and did dolphin dives in the ocean naked and his tribemates were laughing. Sabrina said "OMG, I don't want to see a 50-year old penis!"I thought that was funny.

On Vytas - Wentworth did a post-show podcast where she said Vytas asked her for a backrub in the ocean. I don't think he got a creep "edit" considering other women did say Vytas creeped them out even during his short stay. I think Abi was one of those who spoke out as well. But I do remember him being proud of how he can manipulate women through his jail stories and how women go for the reformed bad boy or something like that. What's creepier though is Tina Weeson thinking Vytas would be great for his daughter Katie during the first BvW.

Edited June 9, 2016 by slowpoked

[ProfCrash]

Troyzan was kind of a poor mans Coach

[loki567]

Not a Vytas fan but I do think he got the shaft in his edit. It sounds to me like he got picked off by a pre-game alliance because said alliance was afraid of his relationships with players on both tribes. The producers don't want to admit that returning players seasons have pre-game alliances but need reasons for why someone was voted out first. So "creepy guy."

But the only people really accused him of creepiness as far as I know were Abi, Wentworth, and Shirin, IMO three extremely unpleasant women who like to use fan perceptions of the show to attack people personally. If it came from a Peih-Gee (who I think is friendly with Vytas in the real world) or Wigglesworth, I'd be more inclined to agree. But coming from those three? No bueno. 

Edited June 10, 2016 by loki567

[slowpoked]

On 6/9/2016 at 11:10 PM, loki567 said:

Not a Vytas fan but I do think he got the shaft in his edit. It sounds to me like he got picked off by a pre-game alliance because said alliance was afraid of his relationships with players on both tribes. The producers don't want to admit that returning players seasons have pre-game alliances but need reasons for why someone was voted out first. So "creepy guy."

But the only people really accused him of creepiness as far as I know were Abi, Wentworth, and Shirin, IMO three extremely unpleasant women who like to use fan perceptions of the show to attack people personally. If it came from a Peih-Gee (who I think is friendly with Vytas in the real world) or Wigglesworth, I'd be more inclined to agree. But coming from those three? No bueno. 

Well, just because they're unpleasant women doesn't mean they cannot be legitimately creeped out by some dude. 

[jsm1125]

1 hour ago, slowpoked said:

Well, just because they're unpleasant women doesn't mean they cannot be legitimately creeped out by some dude. 

Plus, when was Kelley unpleasant?

On another note, there are so many potential targets/threats early in S34: Malcolm, Sandra, Cirie, Tony, Aubry.

[LadyChatts]

I will be absolutely shocked if Sandra, Cirie, Malcolm, and Ozzy make it to the merge.  Tony too, I guess, and possibly Aubry (likely taken down by a bitter Debbie), Tai, and Caleb.

I will be happy if Brad and Troyzan go out pre-merge.  No having to look at them all season, in Ponderosa, or on the jury.  However, somehowI feel if they had to do a tribe swap every week to guarantee Probst's beloved man crushes make it, they would.  Since people don't seem to be feeling this cast, and given how well SC went, I'm wondering if they will do anything and everything to make sure this isn't another Caramoan.

[LadyChatts]

http://insidesurvivor.com/survivor-season-34-theme-and-title-revealed-13668

We've got a theme.  Survivor: Game Changers-The Mamanuca Islands.  Wonder if Probst came up with this and will gloat?  I know that they had another theme and had to change it because some of their original choices dropped out.  Per Redmond's article, it's supposed to be about people who changed the game during their original season.  But is this going to be spun as people who changed the game the first time, and people who need to change their game the second time around (looking at people like Sierra, Hali, and Sarah here).  Because I don't see how someone like Sierra did anything that would be game changing, let alone anything that would qualify as an AS.  Hali did try to get something going, but was out numbered.  Brad?  Can't wait to see how Probst says he's a game changer.  Like most themes, this one can actually be applied to very few people, and extremely loosely to others.  Heck, we never even saw Caleb's game.

Edited June 29, 2016 by LadyChatts

[ForeverAlone]

Like many themes, this one was applied after they finished casting, because it sounds like production had a different theme in mind at the start of casting, but wasn't able to cast enough of the right people to meet that theme. On the plus side, I'm sure Jeff will provide much comedy gold by talking about how some of these more marginal casting choices were actual game changers. 

[LadyChatts]

1 hour ago, ForeverAlone said:

Like many themes, this one was applied after they finished casting, because it sounds like production had a different theme in mind at the start of casting, but wasn't able to cast enough of the right people to meet that theme. On the plus side, I'm sure Jeff will provide much comedy gold by talking about how some of these more marginal casting choices were actual game changers. 

I was going to pick and choose who I listened to Probst talk about during his pre-game assement (especially his man crush Brad, who I'm sure he'll hype up as the king of Survivor kings).  But now, I'll definitely be listening.  Because aside from about 5 people, I wouldn't qualify the others as game changing.  That's why I'm sure this will be spun in some people's favor as what they need to do, or maybe finish what they attempted to start during their original season (looking at Hali and the other Ciera here).

I wonder what the original theme was.  Given the number of winners on the short list, I do wonder if it was going to be some winners vs non winners or something along those lines.

[ForeverAlone]

According to what I read on Inside Survivor, the original theme was apparently something along those lines. Something like winners vs. non-winners or winners vs. jurors vs pre jurors. However it broke out, it sounded like they originally wanted an all winner tribe, but for whatever reason, that was canceled at the last  minute (probably due to not being able to get enough winners they wanted). 

[Sarahsmile416]

I'm just wondering how they are going to twist Sierra's "game changing" aspect of play? First person to make it as far as she did while doing nothing yet talking as if she was going to do way more. ?

Honestly, I'm mystified by Ciera as well...though you know Jeff is going to spin the fact that she voted out her own mother (gasp!) as game changing...

[ForeverAlone]

Yeah, the mother vote is a bit far fetched, but if they wanted to, they could say that she forced the first rock draw since season four. But even that is pushing it a bit. But I don't mind either way, because I am glad to see Ciera return. 

[LadyChatts]

I like Ciera, but I hope she has the opportunity to make moves this season (rather than be in the minority and just talk about making moves).  However, I have a feeling she's going to find herself in the majority alliance this season, and downplay the minority alliance's attempt to make moves.  Just a feeling.  Ciera is a Probst favorite, so I'm sure he'll spin the mom vote as game changing for voting off a guaranteed ally for herself (or something).  Maybe he'll say she's a game changer because she tries to get people to flip sides.  At least with her they can wing it.  Some of these others?  I don't even think they can do that. 

Really, there are far fewer people this season that actually made moves.  Is this the best plan b they could come up with?  It would have made more sense to repeat the One World theme.  I'm disappointed we'll have to wait until February for Probst's analysis.  I will be curious how he'll hype the season at the end of S33 in December when they do the preview.

Edited June 30, 2016 by LadyChatts

[azshadowwalker]

13 hours ago, ForeverAlone said:

According to what I read on Inside Survivor, the original theme was apparently something along those lines. Something like winners vs. non-winners or winners vs. jurors vs pre jurors. However it broke out, it sounded like they originally wanted an all winner tribe, but for whatever reason, that was canceled at the last  minute (probably due to not being able to get enough winners they wanted). 

The previous Inside Survivor post about the theme said that the winners vs jurors vs pre-jurors was never confirmed and the numbers of each sex in each group didn't line up for that, so they don't think that was ever going to be the theme.

[Guest]

I wouldn't call anyone really a game changer but I'm ok with Sierra.  She made it to day 37 or so, despite being saddled with a tribe of misogynists and being an Amazon.  

[LanceM]

What a dumb theme but like most themes I could care less about it.  To me this is just 20 people playing Survivor. As far as Hali goes I wonder if Jeff is going to repeat what he said about her prior to season 30.  Sounds like a "game changer" to me.  : )

One of my favourites is Hali Ford, who is a great example that your occupation does not define you, it’s your approach to life. What I mean by that is Hali is a law student who wants to be a criminal defence attorney, not because she is interested in the laws as they are. But wants to get into law to change the laws to serve those who are currently underserved. So that is a no collar approach to life. A woman who wants to go into the establishment and break it up so she can create a new paradigm that will change the way the world works. Mark Zuckerberg is a no collar. Anybody who says, ‘There’s a better way, or another way, or why don’t you look at it from this point of view,’ they are no collars. They are not bound by the restrictions of normal society. As a result sometimes amazing things happen.

[omophagia]

17 minutes ago, LanceM said:

What a dumb theme but like most themes I could care less about it.  To me this is just 20 people playing Survivor. As far as Hali goes I wonder if Jeff is going to repeat what he said about her prior to season 30.  Sounds like a "game changer" to me.  : )

One of my favourites is Hali Ford, who is a great example that your occupation does not define you, it’s your approach to life. What I mean by that is Hali is a law student who wants to be a criminal defence attorney, not because she is interested in the laws as they are. But wants to get into law to change the laws to serve those who are currently underserved. So that is a no collar approach to life. A woman who wants to go into the establishment and break it up so she can create a new paradigm that will change the way the world works. Mark Zuckerberg is a no collar. Anybody who says, ‘There’s a better way, or another way, or why don’t you look at it from this point of view,’ they are no collars. They are not bound by the restrictions of normal society. As a result sometimes amazing things happen.

I could definitely see that being Probst's attempt to spin Hali's inclusion. Great catch there. 

I honest-to-God cannot fathom the mental gymnastics and revisionist history required to call some of these people (Sierra, Troyzan, Brad, Sarah) "game changers." Probst has always played fast and loose with his beloved themes, but this is just such a stretch. The Inside Survivor article from the media thread made a game effort at speculating how the theme might apply to everyone, but even those strained credulity.

[BK1978]

How long ago did they film this season?  The reason why I am asking is because I saw Andrea posting stuff on her IG account last week.

[fishcakes]

I was about to say that you should put spoiler tags on that, then I realized what thread we're in. D'oh.

Reality Blurred said they left for Fiji at the end of May and were supposed to start filming June 3, so they should be nearing the end of the game now.

[LadyChatts]

When Second Chances filmed this time last year, they were done on July 10th I believe (give or take). So they should be done roughly around that time next week.

[slowpoked]

On 6/30/2016 at 4:20 PM, omophagia said:

I could definitely see that being Probst's attempt to spin Hali's inclusion. Great catch there. 

I honest-to-God cannot fathom the mental gymnastics and revisionist history required to call some of these people (Sierra, Troyzan, Brad, Sarah) "game changers." Probst has always played fast and loose with his beloved themes, but this is just such a stretch. The Inside Survivor article from the media thread made a game effort at speculating how the theme might apply to everyone, but even those strained credulity.

The pre-game stuff is indeed going to be laughable. How the heck is Troyzan a game changer?! He couldn't even break the women's alliance despite playing with apparently weaker players.

Brad?! If anyone changed the game, it was Caleb (RIP) when he announced that he was going to vote for Brad during TC. And even knowing his name is out there, he couldn't even do anything to not get himself eliminated.

And don't get me started with "I'm going to make a move against these horrible people" no-mover Sierra.

Sounds like a fun season.

[LadyChatts]

Jeff will probably hype these season up solely due to his man crushes, but I'm going to be curious if Redmond says TPTB didn't like it, or if Jeff is trying to mask any disappointment.  The real game changers are likely going to be the early targets.  Still calling Sandra and Cirie as potential first boots.

I actually kind of pity some of this cast, like Debbie, Sierra, and Hali, who've had a negative reaction to their inclusion (and especially when the theme was revealed).  I wonder if they'll be expecting that backlash when they get home.  And they haven't heard the worst of it most likely, because the cast hasn't been officially revealed.  I've seen some comments on Sierra's IG where people are either saying she was a waste of space to be brought back, or others saying they hope she actually improves her game play, because otherwise she took someone else's spot.  I'm still stunned she made it.

[Oholibamah]

I'm able to fanwank that maybe tribe division will be Gamechangers v. Players who vowed to change the game, didn't find the chance, and are now getting a second shot. This would summarize people like Sierra, Brad, Troyzan, Hali, Debbie, Varner, Andrea, Caleb and Sarah perfectly. 

Meanwhile, Ciera, Malcolm, Cirie, Ozzy, Sandra, Aubry, Tai, Tony and JT all either made moves we hadn't seen before, or played the game in an entirely different way. 

Done this way, I actually think the theme/cast totally work and is actually a lot more sensical than some of their "Hero" and "Villain" designations. But I'm probably giving them too much credit, and TPTB legitimately credit Brad with Ciera's rockdraw and Troyzan with Kim's social game. Heh. 

Edited July 6, 2016 by Oholibamah

[LadyChatts]

On 7/6/2016 at 8:17 AM, Oholibamah said:

I'm able to fanwank that maybe tribe division will be Gamechangers v. Players who vowed to change the game, didn't find the chance, and are now getting a second shot. This would summarize people like Sierra, Brad, Troyzan, Hali, Debbie, Varner, Andrea, Caleb and Sarah perfectly. 

Meanwhile, Ciera, Malcolm, Cirie, Ozzy, Sandra, Aubry, Tai, Tony and JT all either made moves we hadn't seen before, or played the game in an entirely different way. 

Done this way, I actually think the theme/cast totally work and is actually a lot more sensical than some of their "Hero" and "Villain" designations. But I'm probably giving them too much credit, and TPTB legitimately credit Brad with Ciera's rockdraw and Troyzan with Kim's social game. Heh. 

That would make the most sense.  But because it does, it probably won't happen.  Could Gamechangers also mean 'if this hadn't happened, this person wouldn't have advanced or their game would have changed dramatically'.  I'll take Brad, Hali and Sierra, since those three seem to be the most perplexing of this title.  So if Caleb hadn't joined in voting Brad out, he advances further and wins?  So Brad's ego got in the way and changed the game for him the first time?  If Will had voted with Vince and Nina in voting Jenn out, would Hali have been the next to go?  So rather than making the jury, she's the third one out.  Sierra...well, I even have trouble with this one under this sceanrio.  If she didn't vote out Joaquin, she finishes 6th instead of 5th?

I'm sure there has to be more to this than calling these people game changers.  Maybe your above sceanrio is right.  And really, I'd feel better with the likes of Sandra, Cirie, Tony, Aubry on one tribe vs being mixed in with Brad, Troyzan, and Debbie.

ETA:

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How long ago did they film this season?  The reason why I am asking is because I saw Andrea posting stuff on her IG account last week.

I was waiting to see if anyone else was suddenly active, but Andrea is the only one I've seen on SM.  I don't know if someone is posting on her behalf, or if she was a very early boot, pulled a Vytas and came home because she was bitter.  But I've been checking the other Survivors SM accounts, and I haven't seen any other activity from what I could find (granted, I didn't check everybody, but just some people I thought would be back posting).  They should be home next week if Redmond's filming schedule was correct.

Edited July 8, 2016 by LadyChatts

[LadyChatts]

Redmond has posted the tribes http://insidesurvivor.com/survivor-game-changers-tribe-names-and-divisions-13372

Mana tribe: Caleb, Jeff, Malcolm, Tony, Troyzan, Aubry, Ciera, Hali, Sandra, S33 Female

Nuku tribe: Andrea, Cirie, Debbie, Sierra, Sarah, Brad, JT, Ozzy, Tai, S33 Male

I think Cirie is screwed if her tribe loses the first challenge.  I am glad they didn't purposely didn't put Caleb/Tai together.

[piequinn35]

^same as Sandra on Mana tribe :)

sometimes I get confused with Malcolm and Joe Anglim, I have to check first if that is Joe or Malcolm haha

[LadyChatts]

6 hours ago, piequinn35 said:

^same as Sandra on Mana tribe :)

sometimes I get confused with Malcolm and Joe Anglim, I have to check first if that is Joe or Malcolm haha

I've been thinking, I wonder if being a two time winner will in fact help Sandra last a few boots.  Maybe she won't make it to the merge (though I'd love to see her on the jury), but they may figure she's a good shield to keep around.  Since she's with Tony, I could see him trying to make the argument.  Especially since he may find himself a target.  It's hard to say.  I do think Sandra wound up in a possibly better position.  Cirie's played with Ozzy and JT  Those two, along with Brad, will probably be gunning for her.  She might be able to band the ladies together.

[thehepburn]

Today is day 38 filming in Fiji but Caleb is already supposedly back and snapchatting. From reddit.

[LadyChatts]

I guess we have our new Vytas.  Assuming Caleb didn't medevac a 2nd time, I wonder if he'll be at the reunion for leaving the game early, and posting that he's home while filming is going on.

[Nutjob]

On 7/8/2016 at 8:39 PM, LadyChatts said:

I've been thinking, I wonder if being a two time winner will in fact help Sandra last a few boots.  Maybe she won't make it to the merge (though I'd love to see her on the jury), but they may figure she's a good shield to keep around.  Since she's with Tony, I could see him trying to make the argument.  Especially since he may find himself a target.  It's hard to say.  I do think Sandra wound up in a possibly better position.  Cirie's played with Ozzy and JT  Those two, along with Brad, will probably be gunning for her.  She might be able to band the ladies together.

Sandra is also friends with Troyzan, which may set her up to form an alliance pre-show that keeps her around a bit. If she lasts through a boot or two, she will be dangerous, and I will be tickled.

[slowpoked]

13 minutes ago, Nutjob said:

Sandra is also friends with Troyzan, which may set her up to form an alliance pre-show that keeps her around a bit. If she lasts through a boot or two, she will be dangerous, and I will be tickled.

I would love for Sandra to win for a 3rd time just because everyone assumed no one will vote for her because she's won 2x already, therefore "carrying" her to the finals.

And to watch Probst's head explode that a woman beat all of his mancrushes combined, again.

[LadyChatts]

Filming ends tomorrow per Redmond.  With the time difference, crazy to think they will be heading to TC and voting off the last person before the FTC in just a few hours over there.  Stephen posted a comment on twitter to the S34 cast not to post pics of themselves when they come home, so people can't try and figure out who looks like they went far.  

In regards to Sandra, I'd be shocked if she even made it to the merge.  But if anyone can do it, I have faith Sandra can.  I'd love nothing more than for her to pull an upset and win!  Especially if she is in a final 3 with Probst's mancrushes.

Edited July 13, 2016 by LadyChatts

[azshadowwalker]

On 7/8/2016 at 1:35 PM, piequinn35 said:

 

sometimes I get confused with Malcolm and Joe Anglim, I have to check first if that is Joe or Malcolm haha

I have always considered them interchangeable. Neither is compelling in any way. Just generically attractive white dudes with some athletic acumen, but not much and nothing that really stands out about them.

[LadyChatts]

Weight loss pics are being posted on Sucks.  So far, we have Ciera/Sierra, Varner, Sandra, Sarah, and Ozzy. 

Sierra deleted/deactivated her twitter account after arriving home.  Not sure why, although given the reaction to her being cast, maybe there were some not so nice comments waiting for her. 

Edited July 18, 2016 by LadyChatts

[Hanahope]

1 hour ago, LadyChatts said:

Weight loss pics are being posted on Sucks.  So far, we have Ciera/Sierra, Varner, Sandra, Sarah, and Ozzy.

Yay for Sandra!!  Man I hope she won.

[slowpoked]

3 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

Weight loss pics are being posted on Sucks.  So far, we have Ciera/Sierra, Varner, Sandra, Sarah, and Ozzy. 

Sierra deleted/deactivated her twitter account after arriving home.  Not sure why, although given the reaction to her being cast, maybe there were some not so nice comments waiting for her. 

Do you mind posting the link? I can't find anything in that website. Thanks.

[LadyChatts]

http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/128339/S34-Weight-Loss-Pics?page=1#.V40-bE1TGHs

Ciera and Ozzy are on page 1, Sarah is page 2, and Sierra/Varner/Sandra are on page 4 (Varner's is a link, and some think it is photoshopped to make him look thinner).  Sierra's was also a link uploaded from her SnapChat.

Edited July 18, 2016 by LadyChatts

[omophagia]

Those definitely aren't the most conclusive return-home photo spoilers I've ever seen (i.e., Kimmi and Kelley in Second Chances), but I am fine with latching on to the ideas of late-game runs by Sandra and Varner. I hope he finally makes the jury, and I would be thrilled to see her win again.

The Ozzy pic just reminded me of how much I've always hated Corinne and that I hope Max never returns.

[LadyChatts]

Corinne claims she and Max likely won't ever be back because they gave away too many production secrets and behind the scenes info.  I don't know if it's an outright ban, or what exactly they said (I refuse to listen to their podcast).  Anyway, I'm also onboard with hoping neither of them returns again.  Sadly, I think I'd almost rather have Corinne back than Max, if I had to pick.

Fiji isn't as tough as a location as Cambodia was, so I wasn't sure how rough our cast would look upon returning home.  In the two Ciera/Sierra's cases, one barely lost weight her first round, and I don't think she lost much during Cambodia.  She was already naturally thin.  I don't know that being tan means anything, since the pre-jurors go on a trip.  As for the other Sierra, she's tall and thin.  In that one photo, she does look a little worse for wear, but I'd need to see more.  She kind of looks like she did when she was voted out of WA, but again, it's one photo.  As for Varner, I'll be crushed if he doesn't at least make the jury this time.  I think he'd be a riot to watch during Ponderosa, and I'd love to see a jury speech from him. 

I can't really see any difference with Ozzy or Sarah.  Ozzy's got a big shirt on, but he looks the same.

The one I'm most curious about is Hali.  Hopefully there's good news on that front.

Edited July 18, 2016 by LadyChatts

[piequinn35]

3 hours ago, Hanahope said:

Yay for Sandra!!  Man I hope she won.

If she won, I will NEVER watch survivor ever again ;)

[BK1978]

8 hours ago, piequinn35 said:

If she won, I will NEVER watch survivor ever again ;)

I would not go that far but I never really got the Sandra love.

[Sarahsmile416]

13 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

Corinne claims she and Max likely won't ever be back because they gave away too many production secrets and behind the scenes info.  I don't know if it's an outright ban, or what exactly they said (I refuse to listen to their podcast).  Anyway, I'm also onboard with hoping neither of them returns again.  Sadly, I think I'd almost rather have Corinne back than Max, if I had to pick.

Fiji isn't as tough as a location as Cambodia was, so I wasn't sure how rough our cast would look upon returning home.  In the two Ciera/Sierra's cases, one barely lost weight her first round, and I don't think she lost much during Cambodia.  She was already naturally thin.  I don't know that being tan means anything, since the pre-jurors go on a trip.  As for the other Sierra, she's tall and thin.  In that one photo, she does look a little worse for wear, but I'd need to see more.  She kind of looks like she did when she was voted out of WA, but again, it's one photo.  As for Varner, I'll be crushed if he doesn't at least make the jury this time.  I think he'd be a riot to watch during Ponderosa, and I'd love to see a jury speech from him. 

I can't really see any difference with Ozzy or Sarah.  Ozzy's got a big shirt on, but he looks the same.

The one I'm most curious about is Hali.  Hopefully there's good news on that front.

I read through everything...my goodness, those pictures really didn't show anything. Especially Ozzy...I don't ever recall him looking really haggard after Survivor.  Without a pre-game pic, I think it's really hard to tell. But I'm biased, I love Ozzy and would at least like to see him make the merge, if only for eye candy purposes.

I had to laugh at the people on Sucks being so sure with that whole "what we know" post. No, actually, you don't "know" anything" - you can guess, but you don't know. As I recall both Ciera and Sierra are both skinny anyway, so how can their post game photos show much.

To my untrained eye, Varner looks skinnier as does Sandra. The others, I truly would need to see more.

Still hoping for Cirie!!

[LanceM]

The people over at Sucks are definitely just grasping at straws. Honestly I don't think you can tell anything about the pictures that were posted over there.  None of them  showed anything as dramatic as that Kelley pic a couple seasons ago.