jsbt December 17, 2015 Share December 17, 2015 There's camp you can get away with when it's backed up by a decent story, or a story that's largely populated with characters you're deeply invested in. As ludicrous as Obrecht/Anna was they had built up that story for two years and we had long since been introduced to the Obrecht/Faison relationship as well. It was a big moment when she ripped the mask off and was like, "I am not Ahhh-na!" And then when Anna took her down and made Faison give up the truth, which is still one of Finola and Anders Hove's best scenes IMO. Ron could be very good at crafting high camp that was rooted in emotion and history with longstanding characters. But after a certain point it simply became a go-to daily tool. That defeats the purpose and destroys the novelty. I am all for fun and there was often a lot of it, but too much of one thing just makes you get sick. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1811264
TeeVee329 December 17, 2015 Share December 17, 2015 Well said, jsbt. The audience would have overlooked the hideous wig if the story wasn't so ridiculous - everyone just immediately accepting Denise into their lives, nobody questioning Denise's intense interest in Avery, etc. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1811291
jsbt December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 No, Denise I would never have accepted. Fuck that. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1811846
LeftPhalange December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 You have to draw the line somewhere. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1811864
Tiger December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 Well said, jsbt. The audience would have overlooked the hideous wig if the story wasn't so ridiculous - everyone just immediately accepting Denise into their lives, nobody questioning Denise's intense interest in Avery, etc. I still don't want understand why Ava was off-screen for weeks after being shot and falling off the bridge, shows up for a literal few episodes with cancer, dies, is off-screen again for weeks, and then shows up claiming to be Denise? What was the point of that cancer "story"? And I know that the Gub'ner pardoned Sonny, but why arent Ava, Franco, and Jewelz in Pentonville? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1811876
Pete Martell December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 Michael Logan's Best and Worst in Soaps in 2015: http://www.tvinsider.com/article/60478/the-best-and-worst-in-soaps-2015/ ...does Michael Logan not get that Michelle Stafford, Roger Howarth and Maura West - who've all been with the show four years or less - shouldn't be GH's "biggest stars"? But he's not wrong about Denise. That really was the final straw for most with Ron. Well he's not wrong in that they were Ron's stars. They sure weren't GH's. I doubt he meant it that way though. As for camp, I can enjoy it if it's done appropriately - instead it was so often nonsense like Spencer wandering out onstage to ruin his true love's Nurses' Ball experience through excessive lisping. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1812569
Oracle42 December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 After he tried to maim her while dressed as the phantom of the opera 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1812682
TeeVee329 December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I still don't want understand why Ava was off-screen for weeks after being shot and falling off the bridge, shows up for a literal few episodes with cancer, dies, is off-screen again for weeks, and then shows up claiming to be Denise? What was the point of that cancer "story"? And I know that the Gub'ner pardoned Sonny, but why arent Ava, Franco, and Jewelz in Pentonville? I, personally, thought it was kinda gross that the show dabbled into telling a story about assisted suicide/right to choose, which several British soaps have tackled over the years to varying degrees, only to be all, "Psych, we totally got you, now she's wearing a wig!". 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1812697
HeatLifer December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 Mo is posting some really cute pics of himself and the cast at the GH Xmas party on his Twitter acct, if anyone is interested. Billy is there, which means...he's staying, y'all! Heh. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1812714
Sake614 December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 Nathan Varni just tweeted Heads up #gh fans looking at pushing today's key episode to Monday due to Obama press conference. More to come ... Pls RT spread the word Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813395
Francie December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 How did I miss this before? Nancy Lee Grahan: "If @MauriceBenard is The Brando of soaps, I guess that makes me Shelley Winters? ....." She puts herself out there as the type of person who if something, good or awful, happened to someone else, her first thought would be "Yes, but how does this affect me?" 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813509
ch1 December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I can't believe someone compared Bernard to Brando. In what universe? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813647
GHScorpiosRule December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I can't believe someone compared Bernard to Brando. In what universe? Was she drunk when she said that? One would have to be high and drunk to make such a comparison. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813665
UYI December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I can't believe someone compared Bernard to Brando. In what universe? I've seen this before, actually. I think of his co stars said this years back in a magazine interview. Because Sonny=The Godfather, or something. Whatever. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813723
GHScorpiosRule December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I've seen this before, actually. I think of his co stars said this years back in a magazine interview. Because Sonny=The Godfather, or something. Whatever. Then he or she was smokin' sme serious Crack, because he only wishes he had even a tenth of Brando's talent. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813809
ulkis December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I used to see Tyler Christopher compared to him a lot in looks in the press. EVERYONE STOP, OKAY? NONE OF YOU ARE BRANDO. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813813
GHScorpiosRule December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I used to see Tyler Christopher compared to him a lot in looks in the press. EVERYONE STOP, OKAY? NONE OF YOU ARE BRANDO. PREACH!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813827
UYI December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I used to see Tyler Christopher compared to him a lot in looks in the press. EVERYONE STOP, OKAY? NONE OF YOU ARE BRANDO. And we all know what happened to Brando's looks later in life, anyway. :'( I guess Tyler's more bloated years could be slightly compared to Bloated!Brando (okay, that's kind of mean, I'll admit). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813830
ch1 December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I read that comment in SOD by the director the movie that Bernard and Wright are making appearances with Jennifer Lawrence. I just looked it up he says "He's almost like a Brando to me." 1. That's an insult to Brando; and 2. If Bernard was remotely as talented as Brando his ass wouldn't be on a soap going on 25 years now. Let's be real here. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813857
dubbel zout December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 In my mind, "the Brando of soaps" is damning with faint praise. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813884
UYI December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 I read that comment in SOD by the director the movie that Bernard and Wright are making appearances with Jennifer Lawrence. I just looked it up he says "He's almost like a Brando to me." 1. That's an insult to Brando; and 2. If Bernard was remotely as talented as Brando his ass wouldn't be on a soap going on 25 years now. Let's be real here. David O. Russell said that? Wow. To be fair, some even very talented soap actors stay within that realm to support their families. YMMV on Benard's talent, of course, but it does happen. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813903
ulkis December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 Yeah, I mean I don't think MB is good anymore but he was once. He only tried his luck away from GH for a year. Who knows what could have happened if he didn't come back? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813960
TeeVee329 December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 (edited) I thought the David O. Russell quotes were about praising the actors for being able to get through so many pages/scenes and how they didn't get enough credit for that? Which...true. Edited December 18, 2015 by TeeVee329 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813965
Francie December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 In my mind, "the Brando of soaps" is damning with faint praise. That's how I took it as well. It was a very "he's the biggest fish in that puddle over there!" kind of way. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1813985
dubbel zout December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 (edited) I thought the David O. Russell quotes were about praising the actors for being able to get through so many pages/scenes and how they didn't get enough credit for that? Which...true. I don't think soap actors get nearly enough credit for their workload, but MB is one of many as far as this goes. Edited December 18, 2015 by dubbel zout 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1814012
Tiger December 18, 2015 Share December 18, 2015 How did I miss this before? Nancy Lee Grahan: "If @MauriceBenard is The Brando of soaps, I guess that makes me Shelley Winters? ....." She puts herself out there as the type of person who if something, good or awful, happened to someone else, her first thought would be "Yes, but how does this affect me?" Nancy needs to shut-up and go dig a tunnel. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1814282
KerleyQ December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 Yeah, I mean I don't think MB is good anymore but he was once. He only tried his luck away from GH for a year. Who knows what could have happened if he didn't come back? I'll just be over here weeping for what could have been - a Sonny-free GH. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1814476
Tiger December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 For the week of Dec 7, GH was down over 300,000 year-to-year. #FallinInLoveWithGH 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1814776
peachmangosteen December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 For the week of Dec 7, GH was down over 300,000 year-to-year. #FallinInLoveWithGH Wow. That's hilarious tbh. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1815383
yowsah1 December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 For the week of Dec 7, GH was down over 300,000 year-to-year. #FallinInLoveWithGH What, you mean that turning an important legacy character into a psycho loser for mob peen didn't have 'em tuning in by the millions? Why, no one could have dreamed that giving an entire fan base the back of your hand would make them stop watching the show! Those ratings are completely deserved. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1815600
Ambrosefolly December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 I guess that having a guy that borderline stalked his wife when he was courting her, cheat on her with her cousin he basically just met and then totally give up on his marriage wasn't exactly ratings bait either. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1815748
Oracle42 December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 (edited) I don't think one story is ever going to be enough to sink ratings. The problem is that all of the stories are shit and the new "writers" are just treading water playing out the crap that got the last writer justifuably axed I did notice that the reappearance of the SERIAL KILLER & WE NEVER CARED has coincided with the Scorpios story Edited December 19, 2015 by Oracle42 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1815865
cmahorror December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 This is freaking adorable. http://kimberlymccullough.com/how-i-love-jason-thompson-let-me-count-the-ways 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1815986
TwistedandBored December 19, 2015 Share December 19, 2015 The ratings are down because storylines that needed to have huge payoffs for weeks to come all ended up bombing really hard. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1816142
Badsamaritan December 20, 2015 Share December 20, 2015 The ratings are down because storylines that needed to have huge payoffs for weeks to come all ended up bombing really hard. Yup. Nic & Liez are finally found out, in the softest, quietest and most private way possible. What a payoff, huh? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1816298
Oracle42 December 20, 2015 Share December 20, 2015 (edited) The Niz affair reveal wasn't public but it was well worth the wait. Edited December 20, 2015 by Oracle42 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1816354
TwistedandBored December 20, 2015 Share December 20, 2015 Yup. Nic & Liez are finally found out, in the softest, quietest and most private way possible. What a payoff, huh? Niz reveal was such a let down but so was the Lulu/Dante crap. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1816430
Francie December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 (edited) Nathan Varni is starting to block haters on twitter. Granted, they are haters, and it's his right. But he's blocking for the snarky types of things being said here, and not for threats or vulgarity, etc. or even comments directed to him. With this and his "true fans" comment, I think Varni's transformation into Ron Carlivati is well on its way. It's like watching Anakin turn into Darth Vader. Edited December 22, 2015 by Francie 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821246
ulkis December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 More like watching Jacen Solo turn into Darth Cadeus. And if you just said "who?", then yes, that is exactly my point. I just want this guy to go away already. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821267
TeeVee329 December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 Niz reveal was such a let down but so was the Lulu/Dante crap. These writers seem to have a problem with the Big Reveal. The Liz/Jason reveal fell flat. So did the Dante/Valerie reveal. And it seems like the Sabrina/Carrrrlos reveal is heading in the same direction. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821269
Francie December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 (edited) More like watching Jacen Solo turn into Darth Cadeus. And if you just said "who?", then yes, that is exactly my point. I just want this guy to go away already. LOL. Yeah, the Anakin/Darth Vader reference exhausts my Star Wars knowledge. I only know the original trilogy well. I thought that going from whiny punk to full on villain engulfed in the dark side was somewhat accurate, but I shall defer to you or anyone else who can even name the middle 3 Star Wars films (Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and, ummm, Takes on Manhattan?) Edited because: Trying to fix the analogy to reflect Nathan's nebbish-ness. Edited December 22, 2015 by Francie 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821280
Oracle42 December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 +1 for comparing Varni to HC's whiny annoying Anakin -10 for comparing RC to awesome Darth Vader 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821290
ulkis December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 LOL. Yeah, the Anakin/Darth Vader reference exhausts my Star Wars knowledge. I only know the original trilogy well. I thought that going from whiny punk to full on villain was somewhat accurate, but I shall defer to you or anyone else who can even name the middle 3 Star Wars films (Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and, ummm, Takes on Manhattan?) lol, it's not even from the films, but from the now-pretty-much-defunct Star Wars novels. I don't even understand why Varni is getting his pants in a bunch, it's not like any of this crap is his idea. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821292
Francie December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 These writers seem to have a problem with the Big Reveal. The Liz/Jason reveal fell flat. So did the Dante/Valerie reveal. And it seems like the Sabrina/Carrrrlos reveal is heading in the same direction. The problem is that there are no consequences. The big reveal is an "Oh shit!" moment because everything is supposed to change. The liar is supposed to be ostracized. The killer captured. The villain upended. Shit happens. Now, it's all so "You killed Kenny! So, anyway...." This show became out of whack when Sonny, Carly, and Jason got away with everything. And then Ron came along and created all these cartoon villains who get away with everything too. How can people seriously throw shade at Liz when within eyeball shot are Nina, Franco, Carly, Dr. O, Julian and Ava? +1 for comparing Varni to HC's whiny annoying Anakin -10 for comparing RC to awesome Darth Vader You speak the truth. I earned (unearned?) that. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821296
UYI December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 All this Star Wars talk turns me into Grumpy Cat (I've never seen any of the movies, and have never had a real burning desire to, so the publicity machine on the new movie has been...exhausting for me, to say the least). Frankly, I would compare NV and RC to the infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, because like George Lucas wishing he could forget about said special, we wish we could forget about NV and RC. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821487
ulkis December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 All this Star Wars talk turns me into Grumpy Cat (I've never seen any of the movies, and have never had a real burning desire to, so the publicity machine on the new movie has been...exhausting for me, to say the least). Frankly, I would compare NV and RC to the infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, because like George Lucas wishing he could forget about said special, we wish we could forget about NV and RC. I'm gonna reply in the off topic thread. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1821604
ulkis December 24, 2015 Share December 24, 2015 http://fyeahgh.tumblr.com/post/135756793506/luanna255-general-hospital-text-posts-if the morgan caption is perfect. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1824943
KerleyQ December 24, 2015 Share December 24, 2015 http://fyeahgh.tumblr.com/post/135756793506/luanna255-general-hospital-text-posts-if the morgan caption is perfect. "I already did the stupid thing" sounds like what one says after sleeping with Morgan. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1825483
Cobalt Stargazer December 24, 2015 Share December 24, 2015 +1 for comparing Varni to HC's whiny annoying Anakin -10 for comparing RC to awesome Darth Vader I'm sitting here trying to decide which one of them is more like Jan Brady*....I mean....Loki, and literally can't make a decision. *Someone who isn't me made that observation/comparison, but it so fits. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1826130
Oracle42 December 25, 2015 Share December 25, 2015 http://cbs.soapsindepth.com/2015/12/the-critics-choice-awards-honors-daytime-alumni.html They need to recast Lucky. JJ isn't coming back. http://cbs.soapsindepth.com/2015/09/details-on-irizarrys-new-role.html Dammit. He would've been fantastic as Julian - and he wouldn't look like NLG's pool boy 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4122-gh-in-the-news-the-pc-press-club/page/180/#findComment-1826208
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