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S06.E09: A Yurt Of One's Own


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Fiona tries to make amends with Sean, who isn't giving her the time of day. Meanwhile, Debbie and Queenie travel to Queenie's rural commune along with Frank who is trying to escape G-Dogg who's after him for stealing his drugs.

 

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This was a really good episode.

 

All the Gallagher kids returned to form

 

Welcome back Mandy!

 

And between rolling down the pile of poo & being chased by mountain lions, this may have been the most I've ever enjoyed Chuckie.

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Good episode. I don't know how I feel about Lip's alcoholism, realistic as it may be. Ugh. Can't the kid ever just have things be good for a little while? And tell me again why all these hot sorority girls are so desperate to get with a sloppy drunk who can't be bothered to remember which ones of them he's banged or their names? Is it the same Gallagher "disgusting drunk who probably stinks" pheromone that draws women inexplicably to Frank?

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That was a lot better than it has been. Okay, I don't quite get why Carl's girl would be that attracted to him, but it's good to see him come to terms with a regular teenage life even if it's not at all glamorous. Loved that Ian was devoted to helping Mandy and that he didn't judge her for being an escort because he made a specific comparison to his own past, and was relieved that he realized that they didn't even need to panic and cover up the guy's death. Loved that she walked away from Lip. Not happy to see that Lip is sinking into alcoholism, but happy with it from a character development standpoint. Thank you to Brina for being a normal person who looks out for someone in trouble even if Lip was a complete dick to her both before and after.  At last it feels like these characters aren't just recycling the same plots.

 

Except for Fiona. Still not thrilled with Fiona and Sean -- her realization that she just runs from one guy to the next was long overdue, but at least she had it..and then immediately says yes to Sean's proposal. What are they going to do about the whole threatened custody of Will thing if Fiona has custody of Carl? Frank is no longer even nominally around.

 

Could have done without Frank powering Debbie's first orgasm. Enough with the weird incest humor. I like Vee marrying Svetlana because I like the Kev/Vee/Svetlana relationship, but the marriage makes no logistical sense. It's transparently a move to save her from the INS, she can't divorce Mickey that fast, and that's not at all how immigration law works. Once the show brings stuff up like immigration technicalities, I feel like they kind of need to play by the rules they're relying on to get a plot point off the ground in the first place. Given how obvious a sham it is, the fact that a fake marriage for immigration status is a felony might cross someone's mind. If Svetlana hadn't already been married, maybe, but a speedy divorce from a felon whose status was affecting her visa followed by an immediate marriage to her boss? My like of developments this week is tempered by how quickly the writers are just putting red pen over the past of the show to fix inconvenient things, like pretending that Svetlana's previous marriage can be quickly eliminated, ignoring that Ian has no high school diploma (and yet chastised Deb to get hers!), Ian misses Mickey but we never actually saw him miss Mickey, etc.

 

Timeline on this show, I can't even. Really, Gus, it's been a year since your marriage to Fiona? How would she have potentially been pregnant with your child at the beginning of this season? It's been more than three months since the ring was pawned five episodes ago? How come some things seem imply that one day has passed since last time and then other things are like, nope, Debbie's in her last trimester?

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Best episode of the season, by far. This show can be so good sometimes. 

 

My only real regret is that Fiona probably won't stick it to Gus now, which is too bad because it was good seeing Oscar get excited and watch the reactions of Gus and his lawyer when things started to get real. And again, Gus is a prick for trying to set her up, so I was really hoping he has a consequence. Also, hard to blame Fiona with screwing around when he's been doing the same thing. 

 

Ian and Lip toasting Carl was the kind of thing brothers do. 

 

Mandy was a nice touch. I think I would have preferred an un-lobotimized Karen come back if we're revisiting old girlfriends, but I hope she finds a plotline that works. Tonight was the first time I got a real feel for Lip's assholishness, and I get the feeling Mandy's back to be his touchstone. Or maybe not. But I'd hope so. "Just because we're born here" is a great sentiment, and it's been one thing missing from the show -- a feeling that the cycle is escapable. 

 

Good for Ian. Like Jed Bartlett said, it's always good to do something nice for the prostitutes. 

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My like of developments this week is tempered by how quickly the writers are just putting red pen over the past of the show to fix inconvenient things, like pretending that Svetlana's previous marriage can be quickly eliminated, ignoring that Ian has no high school diploma (and yet chastised Deb to get hers!), Ian misses Mickey but we never actually saw him miss Mickey, etc.

 

Timeline on this show, I can't even. Really, Gus, it's been a year since your marriage to Fiona? How would she have potentially been pregnant with your child at the beginning of this season? It's been more than three months since the ring was pawned five episodes ago? How come some things seem imply that one day has passed since last time and then other things are like, nope, Debbie's in her last trimester?

 

Totally agreed with both these sentiments. This episode was better than the rest of the season, but the show hasn't done any of the work to get to most of the good developments we saw here-they're just pretending established canon isn't a hindrance. The tone and quality of the episodes varies so wildly this season; it's like each of the episode writers is working in a vacuum. 

 

I popped back in on this one mainly to see Mandy, a character I have great fondness for. (FYI, because I've seen some confusion about this-she's only in this episode, she's not back as a regular. At least not this season.) While it was nice to revisit one of the poorly dismissed characters of the past, it honestly just made me even more sad about the current state of the show. It reminded me of a time when the relationships felt authentic and earned, and actually resonated with me. Seeing Ian with Mandy again was the first time he's felt like the real Ian all season. Unfortunately, it's too little, too late, and I'm sure he'll be back to that other Ian by next week.

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Yeah I mean this was the best episode of the season but considering what the season has been like, I mean.. It's probably going to be back to the status of what the season has been thus far.

It was nice to revisit Mandy and see the Ian character I used to like. I fully expect him to return to who he has been all season next week too.

I really wished I felt happy that I liked this episode but like the poster above me, it just made me more sad about where the show is now. It isn't the same and I still am sad that I don't root for any of the characters anymore.

It does seem like the writers don't know what they are doing anymore, every episode is more or less whiplash and them just seeing what sticks. Fiona comes to a realization that we jumps from man to man and yet jus says yes to Sean's proposal?

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Seeing Ian with Mandy again was the first time he's felt like the real Ian all season.

I thought the same thing too (which has nothing to do with his meds at the beginning of the season either). This was the first time all season where Ian felt like Ian and was true to the character. I used to love his friendship with Mandy, so it was nice to see that again.

 

I don't quite get why Carl's girl would be that attracted to him, but it's good to see him come to terms with a regular teenage life even if it's not at all glamorous.

I think it was a combination of two things: (1) He was trying way too hard before and it was obnoxious. He was clearly putting on an act, which I don't find attractive when someone is trying to get my attention, plus he was just buying her all kind of expensive crap. I know some women like that, but I would be suspicious of any guy who knew nothing about me started giving me really expensive stuff. (2) Some girls want a challenge so when he stopped paying attention to her, she became interested.

 

Timeline on this show, I can't even. Really, Gus, it's been a year since your marriage to Fiona? How would she have potentially been pregnant with your child at the beginning of this season? It's been more than three months since the ring was pawned five episodes ago? How come some things seem imply that one day has passed since last time and then other things are like, nope, Debbie's in her last trimester?

The timeline on this show has never been great but Debbie and Fiona's pregnancies really drew a lot more attention to that. The timeline was already fucked up in the very first episode of the season because (1) Debbie knew she was pregnant in the season finale (2) she was still early enough in her pregnancy to be able to have an abortion but (3) we somehow skipped the entire summer because a calendar on the refrigerator said it was September or October. This week's WTF timeline moment was that Fiona pawned Gus's ring three months ago but Debbie STILL hasn't had her baby. At this rate, her baby is going to weigh twenty pounds when she finally pushes it out after 20 months of gestating.

 

One really sad but realistic moment was that Debbie has had sex multiple times but never had an orgasm. Girl, if you are pregnant but you've never had an orgasm, I weep for you. Seriously, that is sad.

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ElectricBoogaloo said:

 

One really sad but realistic moment was that Debbie has had sex multiple times but never had an orgasm. Girl, if you are pregnant but you've never had an orgasm, I weep for you. Seriously, that is sad.

 

It only takes one time to get pregnant and the activity that accomplishes it has very little to do with orgasm for many women. Plus, she's only 15; plenty of time left for the Big O.

 

You NEVER put human feces in the compost pile!!

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Teenage boys are not known for being good in bed, so it's not weird to me that Debbie hadn't had an orgasm. It's sad that she hadn't given herself one though.

I don't get why anyone would want to be with Fiona and all her drama, but [shrug]. When she was like "I'll focus on me" I thought "AND THE KIDS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RAISING."

The Svetlana plot is dumb, but it'll be funny.

Lip's an alcoholic and he's going to unravel. It'll be sad. I really want him to make it through school.

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"You NEVER put human feces in the compost pile!!"

Yeah. As a long time gardener, that made me cringe. Way too many pathogens .

Oh Fiona. As soon as she had that realization that "You should take care of your son, and Ill take care of me"%u2026..something so obvious and sensible%u2026.that it wouldn't be long before the show had her hopping into a another hot mess of a relationship. And lookee! We didn't even make it to the end of the episode!

Most of that commune was a sink hole. But Debbies tent looked quite comfy. Don't blame her for wanting to stay a little longer.

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The timeline has been screwed up for years but it extra-bothered me tonight because the references to specific quantities weren't needed. Gus doesn't need to say that it's been a year because we know why he'd be ready to divorce Fiona and it's shocking that he hasn't already started! The pawn shop owner could just have said that the hold date for the ring had expired. We already have the weirdness of the season opener, where Debbie isn't showing after finding out she was pregnant in 5.12 and it's still early enough for an abortion (and Fiona does not yet know that she is also pregnant and doesn't know who the father is...unless she was kidding with Vee about it being Gus or Jimmy?), but Carl has already wrapped up months (was it four?) in juvie. As far as I can put it together, not much time elapses between each episode, like we're told it's a week from eviction to auction, the cops come to evict them almost immediately after the sale, Fiona can still have an abortion in episode 6, Frank's just now taking out his cornrows and hiding from the guys he pissed off last episode, and yet somehow Debs has gone from not showing to near-term. Totally different amounts of time have gone by for every character on the show. It's like the writers are fucking with us deliberately sometimes.

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These really extreme timeline issues started last year (they've always existed to some degree, especially with pregnancy plots, but it's gotten epically bad). If you recall, season 5 started in summer, by midseason it was September and everyone was back to school, and by the end it was late fall. Then suddenly season 6 is September again, but Debbie still just found out she's pregnant, Fiona isn't aware of her pregnancy that occurred around midseason 5, Frank is still freshly mourning Bianca, and yet Carl has served 10 months in juvie, Fiona is suddenly in an established relationship with Sean, Lip is another year advanced in school, and Mickey has gone through arrest, trial and sentencing.

 

Plus you've got the aging issue. Fiona, Lip and Ian have only aged 2-3 years over the course of the show, whereas Debbie and Carl have aged 5-6 years. Obviously they can't help that the young actors age more obviously, but there's really no reason they couldn't let the older siblings age at the same pace. I guess they just loved the idea of Ian being eternally 17. 

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Overjoyed to see Mandy again. Lip seeing her leave says to me that she'll be back. Well, I hope so anyway.

 

I wish Fiona had taken at least some of her hubbie's money. His 'you keep your assets, I'll keep mine' was a blatant attempt to make her think he was being fair.

 

And speaking of Fiona, I'm not sure why it still surprises me, but Emmy Rossum is sooooo gorgreous.

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I hope someone warns Gus's new girlfriend what a dick this guy is. I went from feeling bad for him to hoping Fiona's lawyer took him for everything he's worth. I guess by making him so awful it's supposed to somehow negate what Fiona did to him? And it kind of does, weirdly. 

 

Fiona's hair looked better during the divorce meeting than it usually does. I guess they cleaned her up a little for the big proposal scene because for once she didn't look like she stepped out of the shower and let her hair air dry without even combing it or brushing it. (I'll give Emmy Rossum some credit here - she rarely looks glammed up for this role, appropriately so.)

 

Thank God Ian didn't get caught up in some body-dumping scheme that would have sent him to the slammer and into another tailspin. I was worried for a minute there. 

 

Whatever happened to Kate, that lady who has worked at the Alibi since Season 1? Did she vanish without explanation or am I not remembering something? Granted Svetlana is funnier, but they seem to be really struggling to keep her relevant now that Mickey is gone. 

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I hope someone warns Gus's new girlfriend what a dick this guy is. I went from feeling bad for him to hoping Fiona's lawyer took him for everything he's worth. I guess by making him so awful it's supposed to somehow negate what Fiona did to him? And it kind of does, weirdly. 

I actually audibly cheered in my living room alone when she gave her lawyer the go-ahead during that meeting. Seriously, Gus is ridiculous. When he was on the phone like "You're doing this after I told my girlfriend you weren't going to cause any trouble?!" Pssht. Dude, bye. Go scold a pet rock somewhere and stay away from the humans, who you obviously don't know how to interact with. 

 

On a different note... Watching Lip was really sad. The part where he was mad at Brina for calling the ambulance struck a bit of a chord with me... I used to have a friend with a drinking problem who angrily refused to speak to me anymore after I called her an ambulance when she had alcohol poisoning. Blugh. 

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I think the Brina-Lip-ambulance scenario was handled really well and showcased many aspects of how poor people make medical decisions.  I interpreted Lip's reaction to be more about the burden of the cost of the hospital visit, not the diagnosis of alcohol poisoning and the fact that he wasn't allowed to make the decision to bear that burden.  (I figure he thinks alcohol poisoning is a joke diagnosis.)  Brina is great (and perhaps unusual) for calling the ambulance, but I do understand Lip's reaction.  Perhaps if he had greater complications he would have realized he truly was participating in risky behavior.  

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I've been wondering what happened to Dodger from "China Beach"! His old school bus was even there on the commune.

 

How dense is Fiona? Sean was still angry about Will finding the gun and didn't want to talk about it yet, which he explained to her a couple of different ways. But no, that's not ok, he doesn't get to be mad and not discuss it. She keeps pushing and says he should man up and talk about it so she won't have anymore sleepless nights, and then tells him it's ok to focus on his son when she doesn't like the pushback? Apparently in the Shameless universe this behavior makes Fiona so irresistable a guy will do anything to keep her.smh Why would Sean expect Fiona to care about Will finding a gun, she didn't care that Liam could have gotten one of them. Didn't Fiona go from work straight to the lawyer's? I guess she did her hair on the way there because when she left the diner it was in a pony tail, when she was at the attorney's it was curled and styled.

 

Still don't see how Gus is the dick. Nothing was brought up about him getting a share of the house until it was determined that Fiona couldn't return the ring. Her oh well, that pawn shop guy is a prick attitude as an excuse would have pissed me off too. Easiest thing would have been to just have divorce papers delivered to Fiona. But then we couldn't have seen Fiona trying to be oh so noble until pushed to her limit. Ugh. If Gus's new girlfriend should be warned about him as husband material, Sean should take notice of Fiona as wife material as well.

 

Did I miss where they explained what a Yurt was?

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Did I miss where they explained what a Yurt was?

 

I wondered too!  Too Google!

 

 

A traditional yurt (from the Turkics) or ger (Mongolian) is a portable, round tent covered with skins or felt and used as a dwelling by nomads in the steppes of Central Asia.

 

Looks like another name for Debbie's Maternity Tent!

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Wow, Gus is dumb. I happen to be in agreement with his attorney that a marriage that lasted a few weeks (not counting estrangement) that ended in multiple cases of infidelity on Fiona's part does not entitle Fiona to assets Gus had prenuptially. But that is just my opinion, not backed by any Illinois statutes. So when Fiona was desperate to keep her house, THAT was the time to ask her to waive her rights to his assets and return the ring. Instead he makes her wait for hours then pours coffee on her paperwork. While I still think the appropriate thing to do is return the ring and walk away, it was good to see Gus sweat a bit. And how dumb was his attorney trying to play hardball with the ring when she KNEW Fiona's lawyer was looking at Gus's assets?

It was shitty of Fiona to let the pawn loan lapse. She should've come clean to Gus so he could buy it back for $1,900. But Gus didn't seem that concerned about it.

Lip is such an asshole. Really, Brina called an ambulance on an unconscious freezing classmate as revenge for him getting her name wrong? Brina didn't care that Lip got her name wrong. He was the one trying to engage her, not the other way around.

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Still don't see how Gus is the dick.

 

In the first place he has zero right to expectations from a wife he knew all of two days before he married her. Even after that I still felt a little for him. However, Fiona went to the bar specifically to return his ring. But instead of asking for the ring it was more important to Gus to humiliate Fiona in front of all the patrons by singing that "Fuck You Fiona" song. That's strike number one - the first time he blew his chance at the ring (and frankly, at that point, I thought Fiona should have kept it.)

 

Strike number two: she asks him to come sign that release so she can buy her house, and says she can get the ring to him the next day (not true but he didn't know that). Instead of saying "bring me the ring and I'll sign the paper then" he pours coffee all over the paper and basically says "Fuck you" all over again. This is the second time he prioritized hurting and/or humiliating Fiona over that dumb ring.

 

Suddenly he wants it back because he's got a new girlfriend I guess so he tries to play nice. When she tried to tell him the ring was in the pawn shop, he could go buy it back and she'd pay him back he hung up on her. He got bent out of shape because she had the nerve to get herself a divorce attorney (which he had already done for himself) and then tried to sic his attorney on her and claim half her house against this dumb ring which he'd already had two chances to get back. Strike three.

 

Dick.

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I think the Brina-Lip-ambulance scenario was handled really well and showcased many aspects of how poor people make medical decisions.  I interpreted Lip's reaction to be more about the burden of the cost of the hospital visit, not the diagnosis of alcohol poisoning and the fact that he wasn't allowed to make the decision to bear that burden.  (I figure he thinks alcohol poisoning is a joke diagnosis.)  Brina is great (and perhaps unusual) for calling the ambulance, but I do understand Lip's reaction.  Perhaps if he had greater complications he would have realized he truly was participating in risky behavior.  

 

I can understand that Lip felt that calling 911 was an overreaction on Brina's part and he was pissed that her overreaction was going to cost him $2K, but he lost me when he bitched at her that she called an ambulance-knowing he was fine- purely out of spite because he got her name wrong. She was not interested in Lip and she rebuffed him, yet Lip wants to play that she's a woman scorned who intentionally wastes emergency workers' time as a malicious prank? That's some serious self absorption there.

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I was confused about the 2K because I would think that as a college student, Lip would be required to have medical insurance - either through the school or his own. 

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In the first place he has zero right to expectations from a wife he knew all of two days before he married her. Even after that I still felt a little for him. However, Fiona went to the bar specifically to return his ring. But instead of asking for the ring it was more important to Gus to humiliate Fiona in front of all the patrons by singing that "Fuck You Fiona" song. That's strike number one - the first time he blew his chance at the ring (and frankly, at that point, I thought Fiona should have kept it.)

 

Strike number two: she asks him to come sign that release so she can buy her house, and says she can get the ring to him the next day (not true but he didn't know that). Instead of saying "bring me the ring and I'll sign the paper then" he pours coffee all over the paper and basically says "Fuck you" all over again. This is the second time he prioritized hurting and/or humiliating Fiona over that dumb ring.

 

Suddenly he wants it back because he's got a new girlfriend I guess so he tries to play nice. When she tried to tell him the ring was in the pawn shop, he could go buy it back and she'd pay him back he hung up on her. He got bent out of shape because she had the nerve to get herself a divorce attorney (which he had already done for himself) and then tried to sic his attorney on her and claim half her house against this dumb ring which he'd already had two chances to get back. Strike three.

 

Dick.

 

This summary made me laugh, and looking at it from this perspective, I have to agree that Gus is a dick. My problem with this whole story is that the Gus we've seen this season bears no resemblance to the Gus of season 5. His personality did a complete 180 to make him an instant villain, and I'm not buying it at all, which makes it hard to work up any ire on Fiona's behalf. In any case, she has behaved like a huge asshole throughout their entire relationship, so I don't feel she deserves to come out of this situation with anything.

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I was confused about the 2K because I would think that as a college student, Lip would be required to have medical insurance - either through the school or his own. 

 

I was thinking this too, but I checked my university (a major State school), and undergrads are only "strongly encouraged" to have health insurance.  There's a mandatory basic student health fee that gives access to the on-campus health services, but it's not actual insurance.  And perhaps he's on Medicare with crappy deductibles? ($2k for an ambulance ride and an overnight at a hospital seems rather low to be all out-of-pocket.)

 

 

I can understand that Lip felt that calling 911 was an overreaction on Brina's part and he was pissed that her overreaction was going to cost him $2K, but he lost me when he bitched at her that she called an ambulance-knowing he was fine- purely out of spite because he got her name wrong. She was not interested in Lip and she rebuffed him, yet Lip wants to play that she's a woman scorned who intentionally wastes emergency workers' time as a malicious prank? That's some serious self absorption there.

 

I wonder if it's less self-absorption and more that he's accustomed to nobody but family and close friends looking out for each other, so he can't fathom someone who was annoyed at him earlier actually calling an ambulance just because she's a decent human being.  How many times have we seen Frank passed out in the general vicinity of their home neighborhood and he's just ignored?  (And yes, that might just be because everybody knows Frank passes out.)  I won't deny it was dickish of Lip to yell at her and think she did it for malicious purposes, but I don't necessarily think it was due to self-absorption.

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One really sad but realistic moment was that Debbie has had sex multiple times but never had an orgasm. Girl, if you are pregnant but you've never had an orgasm, I weep for you. Seriously, that is sad.

And I would think very common among teen mothers.  

 

I hope someone warns Gus's new girlfriend what a dick this guy is. I went from feeling bad for him to hoping Fiona's lawyer took him for everything he's worth. I guess by making him so awful it's supposed to somehow negate what Fiona did to him? And it kind of does, weirdly.

IAfter seeing his office and clientele I  really wanted Oscar to get a payday - more than I wanted Fiona to win - although Gus losing would be good after that Fuck Fiona song in the bar.  

 

I've been wondering what happened to Dodger from "China Beach"! His old school bus was even there on the commune.

 

Did I miss where they explained what a Yurt was?

Yes! Dodger/ China Beach.   I was trying to figure out how I knew that actor.    By the way, I'm loving the old TV references on this thread - Dodger, Jed Bartlett, and Oscar.  

 

The Yurt was the common meeting room; they are pretty common out her in the NW; our state parks even have them for rent.  In the 1970s, people made homes out of them because they can have real floor.

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I was confused about the 2K because I would think that as a college student, Lip would be required to have medical insurance - either through the school or his own.

 

As someone who actually has health insurance, I can tell you that an ambulance trip to the ER last year cost me close to $2000 out of pocket. 

 

 

My problem with this whole story is that the Gus we've seen this season bears no resemblance to the Gus of season 5. His personality did a complete 180 to make him an instant villain, and I'm not buying it at all, which makes it hard to work up any ire on Fiona's behalf. In any case, she has behaved like a huge asshole throughout their entire relationship, so I don't feel she deserves to come out of this situation with anything.

 

We knew next to nothing about Gus so I don't think it's fair to say they completely changed his character. The fact that he would marry someone he'd just met within the last week or so made him suspicious from the get-go. The fact that he hasn't bothered to get an annulment or divorce until now is weird too. Sure he seemed nice enough but what did we really know about him other than he played the guitar? That's about it. No telling how many other exes he's got that he was nasty to after they dumped his ass.

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When I was in college, the mandatory school insurance really only covered going to the campus med center for basic stuff. You could waive it if you brought in proof that you were still on your parents' insurance, but a lot of people who had regular health insurance through their parents ended up paying the mandatory health fee anyway so they could go to the clinic on campus if they wanted to (instead of having to go home to see their doctor to get antibiotics). But that health coverage through campus does not cover expensive stuff like surgery or an ambulance. And imonrey is right - an ambulance is still a couple thousand dollars even if you have regular health insurance.

 

Coincidentally, last week's episode of Baskets involved a guy telling his brother specifically not to call for an ambulance to take their unconscious mother to the hospital because it would cost too much. I told Mr. EB that if I'm ever unconscious to go ahead and spring for an ambulance.

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I was never a huge fan of Mandy when they changed the actress - but I think I just didn't like her with Lip. Seeing her last episode with Ian was juts excellent. What a quietly tragic character. For all the fucked up situations the Gallaghers get into, they all manage to have a shot out. But look at the Milkovichs. Mickey is in jail for decades and the best way out for Mandy is being a call girl. Sad.

Fiona and Sean are such a depressing couple.

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I agree, Fiona and Sean are depressing. I'm surprise that the show seems on making them endgame. I don't see anything with them remotely interesting and I really never would have predicted a proposal with them and now they seem to be the endgame. Who knows. That could all change. But then again, I never would have predicted anything with this show, Debbie actually going through with having a baby once the boyfriend hightailed it to Florida being another thing. 

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