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  1. stagmania

    S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed

    I think their intention was to completely kill him off, but perhaps they left themselves a bit of wiggle room to give them space if the fan reaction was really bad? Otherwise I don't see why they would have left his death even a tiny bit in doubt. I don't really get what on earth they were trying to do with the Matty character. The whole season (until the end) seemed to be telling us that Veronica is not a functioning adult because of her past traumas and inability to move on, yet they are presenting Matty following in her footsteps as a positive thing. The themes in the writing are just all over the place.
  2. stagmania

    S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed

    On your first point, that move away from cases that are personally connected to Veronica seems quite intentional. They’re trying to leave Neptune behind. But I agree with you that the mystery is not very compelling without that connection. On Veronica/Logan, I think your characterization of their relationship is a little unfair. She laughed and had fun with Logan - we saw it in this very season. Their shared sense of humor and matching quick wits has always been a feature of their relationship. They’re both angsty, traumatized people but they’ve brought each other joy along with the sexual tension and drama over the years. I just don’t at all agree with the idea that pursuing healing and healthier behaviors makes you boring, and I don’t think that’s really what the show was trying to say, either - they were making the point that Veronica is kind of toxic and a bad partner because she refuses to deal with her shit. Of course, they stepped all over their own thesis with the ending, so I’m not surprised the message is muddled.
  3. stagmania

    S02.E07: I Want To Know

    LOL tell that to the worst and yet most nominated season ever of Game of Thrones. Still working through my disappointment. We didn't even get a big Mary Louise meltdown in the end! If we were going to go full family court melodrama and leave behind all notions of realism, we deserved to see her really lose her shit. They couldn't seem to decide all season if they wanted Mary Louise to be a true villain or a sympathetic character and that indecisiveness really came through in the writing.
  4. stagmania

    S02.E07: I Want To Know

    We should give Laura Dern her Emmy and then all politely pretend this season never happened.
  5. stagmania

    S02.E07: I Want To Know

    Welp, that was pretty damn underwhelming. This season was a whole lot of build up to very little. But hey, the music was great.
  6. stagmania

    S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed

    This seems like a classic case of the creator not understanding the strengths of his own creation. It’s so bizarre to me - he created this world and these characters that people love so much! Why bother bringing it back if he’s not interested in it anymore? This is a much more interesting idea than what they actually did, and would have given his death the narrative weight it deserved and created an avenue for Veronica to really explore her regrets and self-destructive choices. Instead, his death was treated like a tack on to the end of the season and an excuse to reboot the show with a Veronica defined by her isolation and “toughness.” Well said. The end of the season undermined the entire arc they seemed to be laying out about Veronica having agency in her life and refusing to use it to break away from her victimization. Now she’s just a victim again, her cynicism justified by external circumstances, giving her more excuses not to grow.
  7. stagmania

    S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed

    The Hollywood Reporter ran a piece today that includes this: “If Veronica Mars continues — Thomas is open to the idea, though Hulu hasn't signaled one way or the other yet — it could take on something of an anthology feel with Veronica working cases in new locales (while also allowing for fleeting romantic interests, another staple of detective fiction). The time jump in this season's final minutes, plus whatever real time might pass between seasons, would give the writers license to put their lead character in other relationships, even if they'd be unlikely to match the intensity of her long-time love.” So I think this is it. Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell don’t actually want to do Veronica Mars with the whole universe that entails anymore - they want to do a sexy anthology mystery show about a P.I. on the road and in order to set that up, they needed Logan, and Veronica’s ties to Neptune, out of the way (thus Keith’s miraculous health 180). I hated this ending for a number of reasons, but the primary one is that it was so cheap and rushed. They weren’t ready to get married, the entire wedding thing came out of nowhere and was clearly just there to make Logan’s death maximally painful. And to do an instant cut to one year later with a playful music cue, completely undermining the tragedy to get your quirky heroine right back on the road with her obligations magically evaporated? Seriously, what the hell was that. The missed potential here is extremely frustrating. The season began with a bunch of great set up for a real story about Veronica and Logan trying to work through their trauma and figure out how to be good to each other for the long haul - and it was just dropped. Leo’s inclusion as a third party relationship threat was just insultingly basic. When you have characters this rich, this complex, with so much history to play off, it’s a damn shame to waste them like this. Veronica is more than her toughness. Having love in her life doesn’t make her less of a badass. People who experience trauma can grow and heal and trust again. I’m angry that this show doesn’t seem to value any of that.
  8. stagmania

    Veronica Mars Spoilers & Speculation: New Season(s)

    I could see them setting up expectations for Logan to die only to have the twist be that it's Keith. I'm not sure why they would kill off their most compelling love interest for Veronica if they're hoping to continue the show. But it seems certain one of them is definitely dying.
  9. stagmania

    Veronica Mars Spoilers & Speculation: New Season(s)

    Oh yeah, he is definitely dying. Dammit!
  10. stagmania

    Veronica Mars Spoilers & Speculation: New Season(s)

    Holy crap I just went too and it's still there. Well, that seems to imply a very specific spoiler, doesn't it! No wonder people think fans are going to be angry.
  11. stagmania

    Veronica Mars Spoilers & Speculation: New Season(s)

    Here because I keep seeing hints about this horrible ending in reviews and on twitter and it's freaking me out! Also, this clearly means as soon as the season drops it's going to be spoiled. It'll be a race to finish the episodes without finding out what the twist is, anyway - I'd rather just know.
  12. stagmania

    S02.E06: The Bad Mother

    I laughed so loudly. The ultimate burn. Yeah, it's really, really bad. And I started off positive on this season! But it's clear Kelley has lost the plot, and doesn't know what to do with these characters with no book to guide him. Your point that no one is doing anything is right on, but also - the relationships have lost their depth. The ladies get together to bitch at each other every episode and show up in each other's storylines, but I don't feel the sisterhood and the genuine communication between women that resonated in every scene last season. Maybe because a man is trying to replicate a woman's work. I feel so validated knowing Bonnie agrees with me that Nathan is trash. The implication is that she was hoping Ziggy's dad was not a monster but someone decent so she could convince herself that what happened to her was just a misunderstanding between good people. But honestly, I call bullshit on pretty much every scene between Jane and Mary Louise this season. Why the hell is Jane still talking to her? Why hasn't she understood this woman is out to get them? Why hasn't she moved Ziggy into Madeline's house and kept him away from the evil grandmother? Given the news about this season being chopped all to hell and parts reshot, I am really wondering what kind of scenes got filmed that we'll never see, and definitely suspect that the constant repetition of stuff like this is filler to try to cover the gaps. Overall I'm just disappointed to see the show go out like this after such a great first season. Everything about the custody battle is ludicrous, but apparently that's what the entire season is hinging on. Bonnie's big confession scene fell flat because they didn't put in the work to make us understand or care about her relationship with her mom. Most of the cast is being wasted - the kids are barely characters anymore. There is some serious weirdness around the edges that I'm now putting down to half-revealed unrealized glimmers of whatever Andrea Arnold was trying to do. I'm sure it would have been more interesting than this; at least it would have had a real point of view.
  13. stagmania

    S02.E05: Kill Me

    It turns out that what happened is they cut a bunch of material trying to erase the female director from the show.
  14. stagmania

    Big Little Lies in the Media

    That Indiewire piece explains so much about this season. What a horrible way to treat Andrea Arnold, and it didn't result in a better show.
  15. stagmania

    S02.E05: Kill Me

    Absolutely - but not when they're wealthy and live in communities like Monterey.
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