S06.E10: Backwards In Heels

[lightbeam]

 

The one bright spot for me was finally figuring out Vince in his last scene where he was like, "Um, y'all do this.  I'm out."  He wants nothing to do with this mess.  It makes most of the awkwardness understandable.  This ain't his schtick.  Good for him, it's nice to believe there's someone out there who winds up on one of these things who lacks a natural gift for fakery and famewhoring.

Haha, for some reason this comment reminded me of his little face peering out of the garage door when Kyle and Brandi were arguing outside his house. That will never not amuse me. It might have been the moment he had enough!

Also,whenever Vince is on screen, I can't get over how much he looks like his dad. His face is just thinner.

[breezy424]

I think how Yo feels is directly related to how much attention she's getting.  She looked quite happy when she went skiing with her three children over the Christmas holidays and then shortly after the trip, she posts a picture of herself in a hospital bed hooked up to an IV.  She never stated what she was getting treated for. 

 

She's a very needy person and being 'better' doesn't give her as much attention as when she's 'sick'.  Sad.  Sick has become her comfort zone.   I also think that she may be clinically depressed which makes it easier to be 'sick'. 

[DebbieM4]

 

 

Debating Yolanda's surgery made me feel gross, too.  Whether it took 45 minutes or 7 hours, why do I care in the big scheme of things?  A woman had her breasts removed.  In comment sections all over the web, I've read that the 'bitch' deserves whatever is coming her way. Ugh. That's no longer snark.  That's soul sucking meanness.  Maybe it's because I helped a friend re-bind her chest after her mastectomy. I don't pretend to know how it feels to be a woman who wakes up to see the devastation that a mastectomy causes, physically and mentally. She cried and said it was because she knew it was hard for me to see. Of course, I know it was more than that.  She was crying about things I can't comprehend because I haven't walked in her shoes. So regardless of what I think about Yo and her implant removal surgery, she still suffered. I'm going to try harder not to dog the suffering.

 

No, she did not have her breasts removed.  She had her implants removed, and that's a very, very different thing.  I agree that the length of time it took is irrelevant.  Surgery of any kind is often frightening and it can take some time to recover, so most surgeries are not easy.

 

 But there's really no comparison between having breasts removed because you've been told you have breast cancer and having implants taken out.  The physical and emotional impact are far more devastating for the masectomy patient than for someone who is basically just having a voluntary medical procedure reversed.

 

I'm not saying Yolanda didn't suffer, but having implants removed and having actual breasts literally cut off just aren't the same thing at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think that happened. Not even... at all. Mo appears to be just as into Kyle as she is into him.  Perhaps even more so.  

 

I mean, people can hate on Kyle all the live-long day if they must. For...whatever reasons.  But to try to paint it as though her husband is repulsed by her or something is just not right. 

 

 

I didn't see that happen either.  I always get the impression that Mauricio and Kyle have a great marriage, really love each other, and have created a wonderful family together that is truly their pride and joy.  They seem like partners in a solid marriage to me, and I've never seen him look repulsed by her or anything even close to that.  I watched the most recent episode a couple of times, and didn't see anything that made me feel otherwise.  

[LIMOM]

Kyle is irrationally jealous because she was a cheater.

If you recall, she was engaged to another man when she started seeing Maurice.

She even said herself that she did not trust other women with her man (so much projecting going on...)

I also never believed the story that Mauricio cheated with a transsexual person.

Unless, he is super slick, he never showed any indication that he has a wondering dick, imo

[motorcitymom65]

Kyle is irrationally jealous because she was a cheater.

If you recall, she was engaged to another man when she started seeing Maurice.

She even said herself that she did not trust other women with her man (so much projecting going on...)

I also never believed the story that Mauricio cheated with a transsexual person.

Unless, he is super slick, he never showed any indication that he has a wondering dick, imo

I believe the story she told was that she was engaged to be married when she first met Mo at a party. She didn't meet him again until 6 months later, by which time she had ended her engagement.

[LIMOM]

I believe the story she told was that she was engaged to be married when she first met Mo at a party. She didn't meet him again until 6 months later, by which time she had ended her engagement.

Did not know that.

You have to admit that removing her engagement ring when she met him was a dishonest move, to say the least. Lol

[zoeysmom]

Did not know that.

You have to admit that removing her engagement ring when she met him was a dishonest move, to say the least. Lol

She was at least being honest with her feelings.  Just think had she married Mr. Newsguy he would be 70, instead of a 45 year old Mauricio.  Three kids and twenty years later it was the right decision.   I think they are a cute couple and neither seems to be interested in getting out of the marriage.  Then again, Mauricio parents were married thirty years before they split.

[LIMOM]

She was at least being honest with her feelings.  Just think had she married Mr. Newsguy he would be 70, instead of a 45 year old Mauricio.  Three kids and twenty years later it was the right decision.   I think they are a cute couple and neither seems to be interested in getting out of the marriage.  Then again, Mauricio parents were married thirty years before they split.

Of course, she is better off (in her own estimation) but her behavior explains her lack of trust toward other women.

Plus her crew is not exactly composed of upstanding, supportive women, IMO.

Maurice age is irrelevant, IMO.

There are plenty of septuagenarians who are a hell lot sexier and more desirable, IMO.

[Juliegirlj]

When Yolanda had her explant surgery, it wouldn't surprise me if she had a Breast lift or reconstruction. If you fill a balloon to maximum and then let the air out it will be sagging and wrinkly. Her implants were fairly large. I have heard of cases where an implant ruptured and the silicone migrated through the body and caused an immune system reaction. I have heard it linked to chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, but not Lyme Disease, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. What's surprising to me is that Yolanda waited as long as she did to have her implants removed. She has traveled all around th globe trying experimental treatments for Lyme Disease issues. Those implants would have been the first thing considered in my opinion.

[Juliegirlj]

Like many others here, I used to think Kyle and Maurice had a great marriage, and I doubted it when the cheating rumors first surfaced. I've been married for 33 years to my best friend, so I always root for the long, strong marriages. I have been noticing a little change in their interactions, though. Perhaps I am reading more into it than is warranted. I hope so, but, my intuition tells me things aren't as rosy as The Umansky's would have us believe. Maurice's business practice's show that he is not above trading up, so to speak. He showed disloyalty to Rick Hilton, who gave him a leg up into the real estate world. I think Maurice is a master showman- although in his line of work that is almost a necessity. In earlier seasons we saw a loving, close family that seemed to hold family values close to heart. Now, we see grand Italian Villas, Yachts, convertible sports cars, Martha's Vineyards mansions, etc. Also, the infamous gifting of a set of diamond earrings done, not in private by Maurice, but, by Andy Cohen on WWHL!?! I've noticed a change in the attitude of their kids also. They seem to be more like privileged, bratty "Hollywood" kids now. As far as the cheating rumors- who knows?! I did look into it, and it seems to me to have some merit. However, I do believe whatever is going on with them, they are both fine with the situation, so who am I to complain. Agree to disagree with those that feel otherwise about K and M.

Edited February 7, 2016 by Juliegirlj

[LIMOM]

Like many others here, I used to think Kyle and Maurice had a great marriage, and I doubted it when the cheating rumors first surfaced. I've been married for 33 years to my best friend, so I always root for the long, strong marriages. I have been noticing a little change in their interactions, though. Perhaps I am reading more into it than is warranted. I hope so, but, my intuition tells me things aren't as rosy as The Umansky's would have us believe. Maurice's business practice's show that he is not above trading up, so to speak. He showed disloyalty to Rick Hilton, who gave him a leg up into the real estate world. I think Maurice is a master showman- although in his line of work that is almost a necessity. In earlier seasons we saw a loving, close family that seemed to hold family values close to heart. Now, we see grand Italian Villas, Yachts, convertible sports cars, Martha's Vineyards mansions, etc. I've noticed a change in the attitude of their kids also. They seem to be more like privileged, bratty "Hollywood" kids now. As far as the cheating rumors- who knows?! I did look into it, and it seems to me to have some merit. However, I do believe whatever is going on with them, they are both fine with the situation, so who am I to complain. Agree to disagree with those that feel otherwise about K and M.

Can I ask you how you came to the conclusion that he cheated in his marriage?

I totally miss it.

As far as their general attitude, I think the youngest children are "acting"more spoiled .

Nothing new here, IMO.

[Rainny]

LOL. Same.  I snarked about Rinna after her dad died. It wasn't especially nasty, but considering my own dad is ill - shame on me.  I don't really believe in karma but I do believe that you get as good as you give.  I was still thinking about it days later. WTF. Being peri-menopausal can already lend a hand in being a bitch.  Should I really let my feelings about Lisa Rinna, (LISA 'MonkeyAssface' RINNA?!?!) send me further down that rabbit hole?  No. She's not important enough to hate. I've given her too much power. Thank you, LisaV for my deep thought for the day. ;-)

 

Debating Yolanda's surgery made me feel gross, too.  Whether it took 45 minutes or 7 hours, why do I care in the big scheme of things?  A woman had her breasts removed.  In comment sections all over the web, I've read that the 'bitch' deserves whatever is coming her way. Ugh. That's no longer snark.  That's soul sucking meanness.  Maybe it's because I helped a friend re-bind her chest after her mastectomy. I don't pretend to know how it feels to be a woman who wakes up to see the devastation that a mastectomy causes, physically and mentally. She cried and said it was because she knew it was hard for me to see. Of course, I know it was more than that.  She was crying about things I can't comprehend because I haven't walked in her shoes. So regardless of what I think about Yo and her implant removal surgery, she still suffered. I'm going to try harder not to dog the suffering.

 

Is Faye Resnick suffering?  Because I've still got some choice morsels for that one. 

 

Ryebread, I'm sorry your dad's ill. I hope he feels better!

[beaker73]

Like many others here, I used to think Kyle and Maurice had a great marriage, and I doubted it when the cheating rumors first surfaced. I've been married for 33 years to my best friend, so I always root for the long, strong marriages. I have been noticing a little change in their interactions, though. Perhaps I am reading more into it than is warranted. I hope so, but, my intuition tells me things aren't as rosy as The Umansky's would have us believe. Maurice's business practice's show that he is not above trading up, so to speak. He showed disloyalty to Rick Hilton, who gave him a leg up into the real estate world. I think Maurice is a master showman- although in his line of work that is almost a necessity. In earlier seasons we saw a loving, close family that seemed to hold family values close to heart. Now, we see grand Italian Villas, Yachts, convertible sports cars, Martha's Vineyards mansions, etc. Also, the infamous gifting of a set of diamond earrings done, not in private by Maurice, but, by Andy Cohen on WWHL!?! I've noticed a change in the attitude of their kids also. They seem to be more like privileged, bratty "Hollywood" kids now. As far as the cheating rumors- who knows?! I did look into it, and it seems to me to have some merit. However, I do believe whatever is going on with them, they are both fine with the situation, so who am I to complain. Agree to disagree with those that feel otherwise about K and M.

So Maurcio was supposed to work the rest of his life at H & H with no room for advancement? People move on all the time.

The villa, yacht, convertible and Hamptons house were all rented for vacations, right? Filmed vacations. I don't see how his is a testament to the state of their marriage.

[quaintirene]

I'm also not seeing anything that suggests the Umansky marriage is on the rocks. they seem fine to me.

But I'm still trying to get over the (very occasional) sighting at the party of Taylor Armstrong. who looked like she died of anorexia a few weeks ago and was embalmed and buried by an undertaker with a very unusual sense of humor...

[grisgris]

I just watch this show for sport, so here's my take on this week:

 

Eileen and Vince = B-O-R-I-N-G!!!  Eileen is w-a-a-y too uptight for that bunch. Why are they even on this show?

 

Will the real Erika please stand up? I'll bet that Erika sure doesn't act or speak that way around her husband and his friends/clients. She appears to have dual personality -- based on who she's with at the moment. Sweet as can be and *classy* when Lisa R was over visiting; the complete opposite with Kathryn. I can't wait for next week's episode and see the ladies' heads explode by "Erika Jayne." (Also for some crazy reason, I can't keep her name straight and want to call her Nikki. ???)

 

I'll jump into the handbasket about Lisa R being entertaining. It's like whatever's in her head runs straight through her mouth -- no filter whatsoever.

 

BTW, what was that visit with Yolanda, anyway? I watched, then also saw it a few times on repeat when I had Bravo on in the background. I still am confused. Lisa was petrified about talking to Yolanda because she heard some ill-founded rumor that Yolanda had Munchausen's and had to get Erka's advice about it. (Seriously.) Then Lisa stammered out some incoherent verbiage about "sort of engaging in chatter."  Yolanda just looked down her nose, with her eyes half-shut and silently nodded like some battle-scared sage of suffering, and said very little. Then Lisa suddenly declared that Yo was "tired" and she left. Afterwards, she proclaimed in her TH, that she felt "like shit." WTF did that exchange even mean? While it was transpiring, I had a vision of Yolanda reacting like one of the Peanut's characters listening to the teacher. (Whaa Whaa Whaa...) Lisa, OTOH, seemed to think that things went well and they were "good." ????

 

I remember in one episode, Kyle broached the subject of depression and how it can create physical illness. I thought it was a shout-out to Yolanda that perhaps she needs to have her head examined. (Not a bad idea -- for any of them, really...) Did that even register with Yolanda? I have an acquaintance who has complained of "illness" for years and years. She's been to countless specialists, ERs, MRI facilities, holistic practitioners, etc. None of them can find anything conclusive wrong with her and if she gets a Rx, she'll grill the pharmacist, purchase the med, then refuse to take it because she's "afraid of side effects." She has now convinced herself that she can't drive and sold her car. The last I heard was that she's been kicked out of a pain management clinic and two ERs (I don't think the latter is legal?) until she visits a psychologist/psychiatrist and she refuses. Just sayin'.

 

LVP's self life seems to be on the edge of expiring. She looked ridiculous in her Moulin Rouge get-up and why is she still holding on to an overly-exaggerated slight from Faye three years later? Kathryn can't seemed to get over Faye, either. (Wow! Faye must have some awesome magic power over people /eyeroll.) I see where this is headed ... Lisa VP and Kathryn are going to bond/align over their silly obsession with Faye Nobody. And yes, I happen to agree with Kyle. Kathryn, whom Kyle barely knows, was rude for trashing Faye at Kyle's party.

 

Why does Kyle always feel the need to do the splits in public?

[zoeysmom]

I think if Lisar would have been honest with Yolanda and said, "hey my hairdresser, (or lip plumper or buttwaxer or someone) said you might have Munchausen's.    I didn't know what it meant and asked Kyle and LVP and then I looked it up."  A good time to add-no one thinks you have Munchhausen's."  Lisar borrows trouble.  Just like her making the statement she should spend more time with her parents.  Had she not said anything nobody would have said anything.  She verbalizes these big guilt trips about herself and then takes offense when people call her out on her own statements.  In order of screw up, her trip to Oregon, saying Harry has been sober for three years and now this Munchausen's crap.  Her conversation with Yolanda was nonsensical at best and not at all productive.

[zoeysmom]

I just watch this show for sport, so here's my take on this week:

 

Why does Kyle always feel the need to do the splits in public?

It is almost like a form of Tourette's for Kyle.  Nice pointed toes though. 

[Trooper York]

I can see Yolanda's addled brain processing the term and getting all confused.

 

"Munch-hoser. Wat is dis? Oral sex with a Canadian?"

[WireWrap]

I can see Yolanda's addled brain processing the term and getting all confused.

 

"Munch-hoser. Wat is dis? Oral sex with a Canadian?"

Now she understands what David has been asking for the last 4 years, here she was thinking he just wanted oral sex! LOL

[ElDosEquis]

I can see Yolanda's addled brain processing the term and getting all confused.

 

"Munch-hoser. Wat is dis? Oral sex with a Canadian?"

* * * * * Five stars!

[Thumper]

 

BTW, what was that visit with Yolanda, anyway? I watched, then also saw it a few times on repeat when I had Bravo on in the background. I still am confused. Lisa was petrified about talking to Yolanda because she heard some ill-founded rumor that Yolanda had Munchausen's and had to get Erka's advice about it. (Seriously.) Then Lisa stammered out some incoherent verbiage about "sort of engaging in chatter."  Yolanda just looked down her nose, with her eyes half-shut and silently nodded like some battle-scared sage of suffering, and said very little. Then Lisa suddenly declared that Yo was "tired" and she left. Afterwards, she proclaimed in her TH, that she felt "like shit." WTF did that exchange even mean? While it was transpiring, I had a vision of Yolanda reacting like one of the Peanut's characters listening to the teacher. (Whaa Whaa Whaa...) Lisa, OTOH, seemed to think that things went well and they were "good." ????

  This.  I could not understand why Lisa R was there, and the tone she was taking with Yo!   It was like she was seeing the Dalai Lama for a confessional or something!   

[FanOfTheFans]

I can see Yolanda's addled brain processing the term and getting all confused.

 

"Munch-hoser. Wat is dis? Oral sex with a Canadian?"

OMG, I love your humor. Thanks for the laugh.

[Reo]

I think Rinna's discomfort with the WoeYo visit came from the fact that Munchausen's was thrown out on camera - by her instigation, no less - and she knew she would be outed when the show aired.  There's always a little bit of hypocrisy in ALL of the ladies pretending the cameras aren't rolling, but they are - and the cameras capture EVERYTHING.  We don't see the half of it, I'm sure.  I don't think LisaR would have any issue at all with a little speculative gossip, and indeed wants to bring it for the show.  She went too far (although there are grounds for suspicion of a mental illness, for sure), and she knows it.  

 

I don't really judge Rinna myself, because as far as I'm concerned if Yo doesn't want people discussing her illness she should lay off the instagram and the hyperbole.  No matter how sick she is or isn't, she shouldn't have come back on the show if she didn't intend for it to be her only storyline.  I'm annoyed that no one can accuse Yo to her face of attention-seeking, although they all think it except maybe Erika.

 

Rinna has no filter.  Anything she thinks comes right out her mouth.  I bet she's spent a lot of time in her life feeling guilty and apologizing for it.

Edited February 8, 2016 by Reo

[Vicky8675309]

Yolanda got off on LisaR groveling to her! Condescending smug attention-seeker (Yo, not LisaR). I wish the HWs would read Yo's thread here and call her out on her BS.

 

Someone's post (forgot where it was and forgot to quote it) alluded to this Kyle having secrets or something. Anyway, Kyle already admitted to smoking pot at times but overall she wasn't a fan due to it making her paranoid. Plus she doesn't need the munchies (she's not fat but she does get fat rolls with some ill fitted garments).

 

I'd prefer Faye on this show in place of Yo. Yo is a public health threat and spews misinformation---now a bunch of people are going to want cryotherapy which is all junk medicine (snake oil, latest fad cure all without any evidence based science to back it up). Same goes for her drumming up the silicone hysteria from long ago.

 

I'm only part way through the depositions on the OJ civil case and Faye seems honest whereas Marcus does not. From what I gather, Kathryn did turn a blind eye to his affairs. She may not want to push this storyline unless she wants to own her actions. She knew what she was signing up for and if not then she should have researched the show before signing up. She was Team OJ so I am biased against her whereas Faye at least was proclaiming to all that OJ was guilty from the start IIRC. Personally I think they both need to realize that no one is perfect and everyone has fucked up at some point in their life.

 

Some posts that I forgot to quote alluded to Kyle protecting Faye and tried to make it seem like poor Kim needed even more enabling from Kyle (I'm probably incorrectly paraphrasing it and I doubt they wanted enabling).  I hope Kyle practices tough love with Kim. Fuck protecting her...that is just enabling her and that is what Kyle has been doing despite being shit on by Kim (you stole my house).

 

I find Kyle and LisaV adorable together.

It's a joke. Ronnie has an amazing sense of humor IMO. But, then I am biased because he is a friend of mine.

 

Trash Talk TV recap. http://www.trashtalk...e-floor/378823/

 

In case anyone doesn't know:  Ronnie does the recaps of this show on that site. I believe his the one who coined the term "non-Gigis". Wickedly hilarious recaps!

I hardly ever click on external links, but I read this recap and nearly died from laughter.  You are not biased, MatildaM; Ronnie has the most wicked sense of humor I've encountered in quite some time.   I have been missing out on some delicious snark, lo these years.  :-)

 

Go back and read the old ones where he talks about Twitch (Kim). You may want to put on some Depends because I about pissed myself laughing so hard!

[zoeysmom]

I must admit I love the Trash Talk TV recaps.  This week's filling us in on last week's episode was especially funny.

 

Previously on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Rinna ate an egg white omelette, Eileen threw her dead sister off a hotel balcony in Italy, and Kyle tried to have another Dinner Party From Hell, but the new slag was too lazy to read the one sentence written about her in Faye's terrible book.

 

I really think Ronnie should do the intros on the show.  So succinct.

[grisgris]

She knew what she was signing up for and if not then she should have researched the show before signing up.

 

If she's too obstinate and lazy to read a page or two of Faye's book where she is mentioned, why would she bother to research a show she's going to be featured on? LOL!

[Vicky8675309]

If she's too obstinate and lazy to read a page or two of Faye's book where she is mentioned, why would she bother to research a show she's going to be featured on? LOL!

 

True!

wasn't she the one to lazy to model full-time? and just took the occasional model job as needed.

[DebbieM4]

When Yolanda had her explant surgery, it wouldn't surprise me if she had a Breast lift or reconstruction. If you fill a balloon to maximum and then let the air out it will be sagging and wrinkly. Her implants were fairly large. I have heard of cases where an implant ruptured and the silicone migrated through the body and caused an immune system reaction. I have heard it linked to chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, but not Lyme Disease, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. What's surprising to me is that Yolanda waited as long as she did to have her implants removed. She has traveled all around th globe trying experimental treatments for Lyme Disease issues. Those implants would have been the first thing considered in my opinion.

 

I agree.  Had she been seeing reputable doctors, those implants likely would not have been overlooked for as long as they were.

 

Ryebread, I'm sorry your dad's ill. I hope he feels better!

 

Ryebread, I'm sending healing thoughts to your Dad too.

 

So Maurcio was supposed to work the rest of his life at H & H with no room for advancement? People move on all the time.

 

 

Exactly.  He never signed on to be beholden to Rick Hilton forever and ever.  He's fabulous at what he does, he did a great job for H&H, and brought in a lot of business.  So it's not as though he was some poor untalented shmuck who only had a job because Rick - out of the sheer goodness of his heart - took pity on him and gave him one.  He has every right to advance and grow in his career, the same as anyone else.  We also have no idea what went on behind the scenes, what the work environment was like, if there was a falling out, promises not kept, or anything else.  In any case, Mauricio clearly did what he felt was best for his family, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

Moving on to an even more successful career does not indicate in any way to me that he wouldn't be loyal to his wife.  Changing jobs or careers is not a character flaw.  Lots and lots of people do that all the time and their marriages survive just fine.  His first obligation is to the family he has created with Kyle, and he certainly seems to be a very good provider who balances his life pretty well by also being a very involved dad.  It seems to me that his priorities are exactly what they should be.

[Rainny]

Like many others here, I used to think Kyle and Maurice had a great marriage, and I doubted it when the cheating rumors first surfaced. I've been married for 33 years to my best friend, so I always root for the long, strong marriages. I have been noticing a little change in their interactions, though. Perhaps I am reading more into it than is warranted. I hope so, but, my intuition tells me things aren't as rosy as The Umansky's would have us believe. Maurice's business practice's show that he is not above trading up, so to speak. He showed disloyalty to Rick Hilton, who gave him a leg up into the real estate world. I think Maurice is a master showman- although in his line of work that is almost a necessity. In earlier seasons we saw a loving, close family that seemed to hold family values close to heart. Now, we see grand Italian Villas, Yachts, convertible sports cars, Martha's Vineyards mansions, etc. Also, the infamous gifting of a set of diamond earrings done, not in private by Maurice, but, by Andy Cohen on WWHL!?! I've noticed a change in the attitude of their kids also. They seem to be more like privileged, bratty "Hollywood" kids now. As far as the cheating rumors- who knows?! I did look into it, and it seems to me to have some merit. However, I do believe whatever is going on with them, they are both fine with the situation, so who am I to complain. Agree to disagree with those that feel otherwise about K and M.

 

I think he would have been disloyal if he left to go work for a competitor. Leaving to start your own business isn't disloyal, it's smart if you can do it. 

[DebbieM4]

Poor WoeYo. She's still claiming to be chronically ill and it just keeps getting more and more ridiculous, IMHO. If things for her health-wise are THAT FREAKING BAD, she needs to get off teevee and concentrate her efforts on getting well. I still cringe at that scene with her Mom, Gigi and the non's, throwing out her will. I mean, here's her "Mommy" with CANCER for cryin' out loud. And here's poor old WoeYO going on about her impending surgery. Just YUK!

 

 

I totally agree.  If she was as ill as she claimed to be at the end of last season, she would not have signed on again.   And if it's true that Bravo agreed to let her film as little or as much as her health allowed, well it certainly seems as though her health is allowing quite a lot of filming!  That, combined with her constant tweeting, instagramming, posing, etc. certainly does not support her contention that she has barely been able to function and that she is the sickest person ever.

 

You're right about her Mom, too.  She's certainly demanding a lot more attention from everyone than she ever gave to her own mother who was clearly very ill with cancer.  It's all about Yolanda, all the time.  Something I heard every now and then when I worked in the mental health field was, "Her problems, no matter how small, are more important than anyone else's problems, no matter how large."  That is Yo.

 

 

 

I don't really judge Rinna myself, because as far as I'm concerned if Yo doesn't want people discussing her illness she should lay off the instagram and the hyperbole.  No matter how sick she is or isn't, she shouldn't have come back on the show if she didn't intend for it to be her only storyline. 

 

 

That's exactly it.  It was totally her choice to put it all out there.  That's fine for someone who wants to do that, but they can't then complain when the response is not what they want it to be.   If she was truly sick and there was so much backlash, it would make far more sense for her to say, "You know what?  I'm going to retreat for a little while and concentrate on getting better because public opinion is not going the way I thought it would and dealing with this cannot be good for my health".  But of course she doesn't do that.  She continues posing for cutesy photos with IV's and fluffy white robes and bottles of medication and hospital beds, even pulling her own daughter into a photo clearly staged and meant to document both of them suffering.  And she continues to criticize those who have expressed opinions she doesn't want to hear, and she continues to provide excuses, and she continues to speak to the media, and she continues to do whatever she can to keep herself front and center.  Without ever once providing even the tiniest bit of useful information about LD.

 

No one in the physical or emotional state that Yolanda proclaims to be in would be investing so much energy into a reality show and social media.  She doesn't need the money.  She clearly craves the attention.  I think she would do anything to get that attention, and I think that's exactly what all of this is.  If that were not the case, she would have taken a giant step back a long time ago.

 

I think she's really annoyed that people are not simply taking her at her word, and I think it pisses her off big time that she's not getting the massive amounts of sympathy that she had assumed would come her way.  A far better approach (whether she's really sick or not) would have been to focus on LD and educating the public rather than shoving her narcissistic self down our throats on a never-ending basis.

[quaintirene]

Also I'm sick to death of Yo's weird calibration of friends. Real friends, fake friends, Hollywood friends, 'whole other levels' of friends. She is constantly collecting, dissecting and defining, a real Professor of Friendship. And it's not like it's a new phenomenon. Her friendship obsession has been a constant throughout her time on the show. I won't shortly forget that truly ungracious dinner party where the Dream Team friends were singled out in a way designed to make the non-Dream Team friends feel really bad. Lovely friendly behaviour.

Somehow I get the feeling that In Real Life all Yolanda has are imaginary friends...

[Juliegirlj]

I don't think Maurice was wrong to start his own business and further his career. I do take offense with the way he did it. Apparently he went behind Rick Hilton's back to start The Agency, and when he did tell him it was by an impersonal email. The two then called a truce and made a gentleman's agreement to not poach off each other's business assets, but then Maurice broke that agreement by attempting to get Hilton employees to come work for him.

The cheating rumors started up quite a while ago but I don't have a link to share. The several accounts that I read, combined with the way Maurice handles himself, along with what I have seen of his mother made me fall on the side of believing the claims. My intuition tells me things aren't 100% golden with K and M. I am just explaining the way I myself see it. Not trying to convince anyone because people believe what they want to ( myself included).

[LIMOM]

I don't think Maurice was wrong to start his own business and further his career. I do take offense with the way he did it. Apparently he went behind Rick Hilton's back to start The Agency, and when he did tell him it was by an impersonal email. The two then called a truce and made a gentleman's agreement to not poach off each other's business assets, but then Maurice broke that agreement by attempting to get Hilton employees to come work for him.

The cheating rumors started up quite a while ago but I don't have a link to share. The several accounts that I read, combined with the way Maurice handles himself, along with what I have seen of his mother made me fall on the side of believing the claims. My intuition tells me things aren't 100% golden with K and M. I am just explaining the way I myself see it. Not trying to convince anyone because people believe what they want to ( myself included).

That makes sense. Thanks for explaining. I will now be watching more carefully.

[Wings]

 

made a gentleman's agreement to not poach off each other's business assets, but then Maurice broke that agreement by attempting to get Hilton employees to come work for him.

 

 

Real Estate agents are free to work with whomever they choose.  If any left Rick to work for Mo, it was of their own accord.  Employees are not property to be stolen; they are free agents and make their own decisions.  

 

Anyone can start a business, this is America.  He was under no obligation to tell Rick anything. The possibility of Rick sabotaging him was probably a factor in keeping it quiet until he was established.  

[Yours Truly]

I don't think Maurice was wrong to start his own business and further his career. I do take offense with the way he did it. Apparently he went behind Rick Hilton's back to start The Agency, and when he did tell him it was by an impersonal email. The two then called a truce and made a gentleman's agreement to not poach off each other's business assets, but then Maurice broke that agreement by attempting to get Hilton employees to come work for him.

The cheating rumors started up quite a while ago but I don't have a link to share. The several accounts that I read, combined with the way Maurice handles himself, along with what I have seen of his mother made me fall on the side of believing the claims. My intuition tells me things aren't 100% golden with K and M. I am just explaining the way I myself see it. Not trying to convince anyone because people believe what they want to ( myself included).

This! There's something skeevy about this couple. The way they operate. Kyle's no withering violet and has shown to have a very calculated side to her. I don't for not one second see Kyle as some unknowing or non participant in that union. Is it possible that Mauricio has a wondering eye. Absolutely. But Kyle has already shown that she won't stand for it and has already shown that she can call the shots when she wants to. She's also proven to me that she is no stranger to pushing forward in any way necessary to achieve whatever goal she's aiming for and I'm sure that's one thing her and Mauricio have in common and something which makes them good partners. They have the same drive and I think they have the same moral discrepancies needed to achieve these goals together which makes them a good fit and good teammates in the overall scheme of things. I also think they know this too and play off each other well when it comes down to it. 

 

There's something very underhanded with the way they handle their family, their business, conflicts and how they achieve their success. It's dripping off of BOTH of them and this is why I always give the "other guy" whether it be Rick Hilton, Kim Richards, Brandi Glanville, Lisa Vanderpump or whoever is in Kyle or Mauricio's sites, for whatever reason, the benefit of the doubt because there has been plenty of examples where the crocodile tears and wide eyed frog crying have come across as very, very deliberate and for effect only.

 

Over the seasons this theory of mine,to me, has been proven mainly by Kyle because as the seasons progressed Kyle made it a point to become increasingly distraught and distressed by Kim. When you see season one the only one that seemed authentically intimidated was Kim while Kyle mean girled her way through the season. Then all of a sudden, (miraculous timing I might add) Kyle is no longer able to carry the weight of this burden and is crumbling little by little right before our eyes. Unable to bat away the daggers that is DUN DUN DUUUUUUNNN the wounds of Kim's addiction. As the seasons went on Kyle showed a deliberate decline in her coping abilities and therefore was able to slowly take steps back into the curtains with "clean hands" and giving Kim center stage while she was slowing and publicly hanging herself.

 

It's like Kyle noticed that people weren't receiving their interaction with one another well and she's actually taking a lot of unexpected heat so she went solo while Kim was left hanging as the sole perpetrator in the Richards sisters dysfunctional dance. Kyle was like nope this shit is making me look really bad so now my dance card is full but didn't bother to let Kim know about the script change.  I know, I know. COMPLETE stretch for some but not me. She's pulled this with others besides Kim as well to a lesser degree. So it's not just a Kim defender defending Kim or a Kyle hater hating on Kyle. It's all in the actions and I've been seeing all this play out since season one.

 

 

Point being these two have made it a habit of disguising their shady dealings and morally questionable decisions  by offering up someone else's sketchy behavior as a distraction from their own messy ways. They walk on the cusp of side eye antics and seem to have scarificial lambs at the ready whenever they do cross over into muddy waters in order to acquire their spoils. I have no trouble believing something fishy went on with regards to the circumstances surrounding the sale of that house.  Do I think there are not bueno things happening in that marriage. Probably but at the same time I think that their similarities in the way they shrewdly tackle life keep them enamoured with each other in a perverse way and fuels their union.

 

Look at Kyle now this season. No sign of the blithering idiotic panicked frail "sister of an addict" and I don't believe it's because Kim's not on anymore. Even when Kim is brought up we see the annoyed, steely faced, I'm over it, bored expression on her face. She's desperate to leave the pathetic persona she was forced to create and show us from season 2 til now in the dust. She's more than ready to get back to what she's really at home with and that's stirring shit up, doing splits, and pony tail helicopters, lighting fuses and smirking across tables. She just miscalculated how much destruction was at stake by offering up Kim as her first sacrifice to the Bravo Gods. Even though Andy Cohen is the biggest high school mean girl of our time, Bravo was not just the high school cafeteria where the worse that could happen was a food fight between the cheerleaders and the brains.

 

No sweetheart, the ramifications are a lot more devastating and I honestly believe that Kyle didn't realize just how real the damage would be but I'm really inclined to believe that little miss Kyle has ALWAYS held her own when it came to the "burdens" of her life and that includes her marriages, her childhood, her sisters, etc. etc. I don't deny her her exhaustion over her life's trials or her fatigue and distress I just turn my nose down on "the act" she pulled on us on all these seasons of the housewives. A lot of those moments came across as LESS THAN authentic to me and very deliberate but hey that's just IMO and I do believe that her and Mauricio are made for each other because it seems he co signs on her way of doing things as she does his way as well.

Edited February 8, 2016 by Yours Truly

[Yours Truly]

Real Estate agents are free to work with whomever they choose.  If any left Rick to work for Mo, it was of their own accord.  Employees are not property to be stolen; they are free agents and make their own decisions.  

 

Anyone can start a business, this is America.  He was under no obligation to tell Rick anything. The possibility of Rick sabotaging him was probably a factor in keeping it quiet until he was established.  

Cut throat antics aren't new and are expected but at the same time one would expect that when it comes to family certain considerations and acts are to be avoided even in this "kill or be killed" world we live in. It's all about mutual understanding and respect. Do we expect people to bend over backwards and play nice and not use as many resources as possible in order to move ahead in this world for strangers? No, but I would expect, even with strangers specific ethics are adhered to but even more so if family was involved. I mean, that's a no brainer.

Edited February 8, 2016 by Yours Truly

[WireWrap]

Cut throat antics aren't new and are expected but at the same time one would expect that when it comes to family certain considerations and acts are to be avoided even in this "kill or be killed" world we live in. It's all about mutual understanding and respect. Do we expect people to bend over backwards and play nice and not use as many resources as possible in order to move ahead in this world for strangers? No, but I would expect, even with strangers specific ethics are adhered to but even more so if family was involved. I mean, that's a no brainer.

By the same thought pattern, are people supposed to bend over and keep taking it because that someone is "family" time and time again? Rick promised to make Mauricio, his top agent, a partner in that agency and didn't....so after some time he, Mauricio made the decision to leave H&H to start his own agency. Rick had the opportunity to make Mauricio a partner up to and including his last day of work at H&H and chose not to, that is on Rick, NOT Mauricio.

[zoeysmom]

Cut throat antics aren't new and are expected but at the same time one would expect that when it comes to family certain considerations and acts are to be avoided even in this "kill or be killed" world we live in. It's all about mutual understanding and respect. Do we expect people to bend over backwards and play nice and not use as many resources as possible in order to move ahead in this world for strangers? No, but I would expect, even with strangers specific ethics are adhered to but even more so if family was involved. I mean, that's a no brainer.

Quite simply Mauricio wanted to do the real estate business a different way.  He believes an agency should be a team and not competing with each other.  Rick Hilton didn't own Mauricio or any other agent or broker.  I don't see what was unethical about leaving one's place of employment.  If it were a situation where Mauricio was a total slacker and had drawn a big fat salary and coasted off of Rick, that would be one thing.  Mauricio for his thirteen year tenure was the top selling agent at Hilton & Hyland.  He sold over 3 BILLION dollars in real estate of which he split his commission with H&H.  Mauricio also expanded the concept of a traditional agency and added an advertising agency. 

 

Rick Hilton did not want to change his agency and the way they do business so Mauricio had to leave if he wanted to pursue his ideals.  I think the no-brainer is expecting someone to be someone's servant, just because they are family.  The thing is in their world they will often times be crossing paths on listings so it would behoove Rick to get off his high horse and accept the fact that his agents leave and most likely they will be on opposite sides of the deal in the future.  Both sides  make money.  The first clue might be once they appear on Bravo.  It seems Zanuck and the Altmans both left for greener pastures.

[ElDosEquis]

Real Estate agents are free to work with whomever they choose.  If any left Rick to work for Mo, it was of their own accord.  Employees are not property to be stolen; they are free agents and make their own decisions.  

 

Anyone can start a business, this is America.  He was under no obligation to tell Rick anything. The possibility of Rick sabotaging him was probably a factor in keeping it quiet until he was established.  

 

Back in 06-07, I worked as for a real estate/title company delivering supplies to, at the beginning, and then closing the offices right before the bubble burst.

Even tho I was at the bottom of the puddle, I was asked to sign a  'no-compete' contract at the two companies I went to work for. The business is not all rainbows, unicorns and good behavior sealed with a handshake. 

Employee poaching is one thing, client poaching is another? If employees knew an office was closing, client files were the first things to go, followed by office supplies and other items that weren't bolted down.

[Yours Truly]

By the same thought pattern, are people supposed to bend over and keep taking it because that someone is "family" time and time again? Rick promised to make Mauricio, his top agent, a partner in that agency and didn't....so after some time he, Mauricio made the decision to leave H&H to start his own agency. Rick had the opportunity to make Mauricio a partner up to and including his last day of work at H&H and chose not to, that is on Rick, NOT Mauricio.

Where in this point does it make it okay to resort to less than admirable tactics to go out on his own? I was just saying that if Mauricio engaged in behavior that's not above board or was even toeing the line in basic ethics of the business that's enough for there to be family discord. I don't fault Mauricio in being displeased with not moving up the chain fast enough but that doesn't justify being shady in any case and it goes double if you're doing this with family. I mean if the issue is about Mauricio using sketchy antics to pull away from Rick and then create his own business by underhanded means then hell yeah that's not cool and I can see where there's justifiable tension between the men. Good on Mauricio for not sitting back and letting himself go unrewarded for his efforts but if he started his own through messy behavior then umm No, sorry you're still going to be considered a slimy character. At least by me.  Thank you very much.

Quite simply Mauricio wanted to do the real estate business a different way.  He believes an agency should be a team and not competing with each other.  Rick Hilton didn't own Mauricio or any other agent or broker.  I don't see what was unethical about leaving one's place of employment.

My opinion goes off of suggestions that Mauricio wasn't exactly a boy scout in the way he handled leaving and starting his own agency. If those claims have no merit then good on Mauricio for branching out on his own and succeeding. And yes there are do's and don'ts when leaving employment in certain industries especially real estate and the financial sector. Legal ones at that and I'm in the camp who find those claims about Mauricio easy to believe. <shrug>

Edited February 8, 2016 by Yours Truly

[jaync]

Why does Kyle always feel the need to do the splits in public?

​So everybody will think, "Wow, lucky Mauricio!"?​

 

I'm only part way through the depositions on the OJ civil case and Faye seems honest whereas Marcus does not.

For me, it doesn't matter that what Faye wrote might be the gospel truth; it's the how/when/why she wrote it in the first place. That kind of sleazy character trait doesn't just go away, IMO, so if people are still side-eyeing the shit out of her twenty years later, then so be it. (Though, I doubt TMCFR cares about the scrutiny, as long as there's a renewed interest in her and her book.)

[MatildaMoody]

I am confused about where this speculation that Mauricio did something shady or underhanded in starting his own agency even comes from. The only person who has gone on record of accusing Mauricio of stealing clients or agents is Brandi. No one else has come out to say anything like that that I am aware of. So, I guess I would like to know where this idea started. Because if it is basedon something that Brandi said, we have consider the source. 

 

From reading all of the recaps of Brandi's last podcast, I am starting to think that Brandi is Radar Online's "source" for a lot of the RHBH stories. Radar reported that Kyle wasn't at Monty's funeral, Kyle completely refuted that. But, on Brandi's podcast Brandi says that she was at Monty's memorial and she never saw Kyle. So, I am wondering if this whole thing about Maricio doing Rick wrong is another Brandi plant. She is the only one who has ever gone on record saying anything remotely like that, so it would make sense if she was the source of that as well as the lie about the Umansky's not being at Monty's funeral.

[Giselle]

Also I'm sick to death of Yo's weird calibration of friends. Real friends, fake friends, Hollywood friends, 'whole other levels' of friends. She is constantly collecting, dissecting and defining, a real Professor of Friendship. And it's not like it's a new phenomenon. Her friendship obsession has been a constant throughout her time on the show. I won't shortly forget that truly ungracious dinner party where the Dream Team friends were singled out in a way designed to make the non-Dream Team friends feel really bad. Lovely friendly behaviour.

Somehow I get the feeling that In Real Life all Yolanda has are imaginary friends...

 

.....or those she has to buy like the health advocate.

 

I for one wouldn't want to be her friend. Her interactions with her friends are all about her and she uses one upsmanship with everyone.

[zoeysmom]

Where in this point does it make it okay to resort to less than admirable tactics to go out on his own? I was just saying that if Mauricio engaged in behavior that's not above board or was even toeing the line in basic ethics of the business that's enough for there to be family discord. I don't fault Mauricio in being displeased with not moving up the chain fast enough but that doesn't justify being shady in any case and it goes double if you're doing this with family. I mean if the issue is about Mauricio using sketchy antics to pull away from Rick and then create his own business by underhanded means then hell yeah that's not cool and I can see where there's justifiable tension between the men. Good on Mauricio for not sitting back and letting himself go unrewarded for his efforts but if he started his own through messy behavior then umm No, sorry you're still going to be considered a slimy character. At least by me.  Thank you very much.

My opinion goes off of suggestions that Mauricio wasn't exactly a boy scout in the way he handled leaving and starting his own agency. If those claims have no merit then good on Mauricio for branching out on his own and succeeding. And yes there are do's and don'ts when leaving employment in certain industries especially real estate and the financial sector. Legal ones at that and I'm in the camp who find those claims about Mauricio easy to believe. <shrug>

The only person making those claims is Brandi.  And she has nothing to base them on.  H&H essentially gave him notice they would not live up to their word and his only choice was to leave or sue.  May be just me but I thinking leaving is far more ethical than suing. 

 

I am not sure what he was suppose to do.  He did it fairly quickly and effortlessly.  It reminds of the song, Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover, Just slip out the back Jack, make a new plan Stan, you don't need to be coy Roy, hop on a bus, Gus, and set yourself free.   There is just no way H&H was going to be happy with their top sales broker leaving.  Which is why all the hubbub surrounding this is "word on the street" stuff.   

[LIMOM]

While he owed nothing to HH, there has to have been some funny business going on to justify Rick's animosity.

While you all can cheer for the umanskys, I never doubted that they somehow bought the Palm Springs house at a steal and I also firmly believed that Maurice took some files.

wth does the agency do that is so special? Lol

Real estate is a sleazy business in general and I don't see why Maurice is treated like he is above board.

[Yours Truly]

Welp, it's out there that Mauricio's exit wasn't all shrugs and innocent smiles, so like with everything real housewives, let the speculation commence. There will be nice and neat explanations based on perception and those of an opposite nature based on the same. It's an individual prerogative to lean towards whatever side seems to gel with the impressions that are left by this dynamic duo.

[Wings]

Cut throat antics aren't new and are expected but at the same time one would expect that when it comes to family certain considerations and acts are to be avoided even in this "kill or be killed" world we live in. It's all about mutual understanding and respect. Do we expect people to bend over backwards and play nice and not use as many resources as possible in order to move ahead in this world for strangers? No, but I would expect, even with strangers specific ethics are adhered to but even more so if family was involved. I mean, that's a no brainer.

 

We don't know how this went down.  To assume or think Mo did something disrespectful or ethically wrong in any way is a stretch and mere speculation.   But speculating is fun and what we do here!  lol

[Yours Truly]

While he owed nothing to HH, there has to have been some funny business going on to justify Rick's animosity.

While you all can cheer for the umanskys, I never doubted that they somehow bought the Palm Springs house at a steal and I also firmly believed that Maurice took some files.

wth does the agency do that is so special? Lol

Real estate is a sleazy business in general and I don't see why Maurice is treated like he is above board.

Exactly. I don't see what's so hard to believe that some sort of slick behavior happened I mean it's actually par for the course in that industry. Not justifying anything but I find it easier to believe that there is some justifiable bad blood between the two due to not so sunshining behavior. I get that Kim is an addict and all that but that doesn't mean uneasiness regarding her share of the house isn't valid. I think that it's very lucky that Kim's is such a hot mess. This keeps any of her claims from adding up to anything however when you have little issues here and there that question one's integrity involving financial matters and business dealings... things like that creeping up here and there.. Smoke, fire, all that jazz.. Yea, at the very least, there's something not right going on and worth a second glance. This whole blanket, Mauricio would never, as if he's above the temptations of mere mortals gives me a chuckle.

We don't know how this went down.  To assume or think Mo did something disrespectful or ethically wrong in any way is a stretch and mere speculation.   But speculating is fun and what we do here!  lol

But it's not an assumption, it's out there. I didn't make up the allegations. Has there been an official investigation. Nope but it's out there and I for one don't think it's a stretch to believe there's something to it.

Edited February 8, 2016 by Yours Truly

[MatildaMoody]

 

But it's not an assumption, it's out there. I didn't make up the allegations. Has there been an official investigation. Nope but it's out there and I for one don't think it's a stretch to believe there's something to it.

 

But the allegation is only out there because it was made by Brandi. No one else. Just Brandi. Brandi, who by the way, has absolutely no first hand knowledge of the ins and outs of how this all happened, or even of how the industry works in general. If Rick Hilton had made an allegation like that, I could see it being more than speculation or an assumption that people are making. But Rick Hilton has not ever publicly made an allegation like this. Neither has Kathy. At least not that i am aware of. 

[Wings]

Exactly. I don't see what's so hard to believe that some sort of slick behavior happened I mean it's actually par for the course in that industry. Not justifying anything but I find it easier to believe that there is some justifiable bad blood between the two due to not so sunshining behavior. I get that Kim is an addict and all that but that doesn't mean uneasiness regarding her share of the house isn't valid. I think that it's very lucky that Kim's is such a hot mess. This keeps any of her claims from adding up to anything however when you have little issues here and there that question one's integrity involving financial matters and business dealings... things like that creeping up here and there.. Smoke, fire, all that jazz.. Yea, at the very least, there's something not right going on and worth a second glance. This whole blanket, Mauricio would never, as if he's above the temptations of mere mortals gives me a chuckle.

But it's not an assumption, it's out there. I didn't make up the allegations. Has there been an official investigation. Nope but it's out there and I for one don't think it's a stretch to believe there's something to it.

 

 

Do you have a link.  I didn't know that there was an investigation going on.