ulkis December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 Do you think Maxie has baby rabies? I think giving her Georgie was a mistake but I don't think she has baby rabies. Lulu wanted kids - they mentioned it a couple of times here and there before even Ron came on - like I said before, just not to the point where she would be chasing around trying to get Stavros freaking Cassadine's kid. She was just tentative about it. I'd be willing for the Star to stick around, but you're right, maybe make it back to a casino or something. Casino/restaurant? Is there such a thing? I remember loathing the regal beagle decal for years, but of course Frank made it into something worse. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823669
Oracle42 December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: I agree, but I like how the show decided to deal with Georgie. The way it got there was idiotic, to be sure, but I think it's very refreshing to have a mom who doesn't have custody her child who's still very happy and doesn't feel her life is over. I also like that Maxie doesn't have any resentment toward Ellie. That's the only part of the story that works for me. But I do wish that Spinelli had been the one to go after custody and that Maxie had remained willing to allow Dante/Lulu to adopt. It would have been consistent with character and would make this resolution, (which I like) feel earned. 13 minutes ago, ulkis said: Do you think Maxie has baby rabies? I don't think she does now, but I think it was ridiculous that she decided she wanted to raise Georgie just because there was a biological tie. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823709
HeatLifer December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 8 hours ago, Badsamaritan said: Sam and Jason open a security firm providing both physical and electronic security for places like ELQ and the hospital. That gets them around town and involved. JaSam, and especially this version, does not have a dynamic interesting or entertaining enough to be working together, IMO. Watching two people agree on everything and literally just running around town questioning people is boring. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823798
dubbel zout December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 Maybe we get a really heated argument when it comes to naming the baby. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823807
Oracle42 December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 (edited) I don't think they need to be in conflict with each other to be compelling. But the writers have done the same thing with them that they've done with every other couple/character - they actively avoid not just conflict, but depth. All of the characters are boring cardboard cut-outs with shallow motivations and the "stories" are scenelets with nonsense, pop culture references and puns where dialogue should be I mean, they are being written badly and out of character but that isn't unique to the JaSam pairing. Edited December 13, 2016 by Oracle42 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823836
Oracle42 December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 On 12/9/2016 at 11:00 PM, jsbt said: Luke is one thing. I think if it was a good setting for Lulu it would've panned out over the years and it never has. I think she needs a different role in society to distinguish her from Luke the club owner and Laura the earth mother. To me being a journalist - or some sort of activist utilizing her fashion platform - would do that while carrying the Spencer adventurism further. It also allows for fresh but not unreasonable tension with Dante. I wish she'd shown some interest in photography while working for Crimson. I could see her as the Sean Penn character from the Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Reasonable conflict with Dante over being in danger/not being home and potential for stories that aren't about wringing her hands over Dante or embryos Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823853
HeatLifer December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 32 minutes ago, Oracle42 said: I don't think they need to be in conflict with each other to be compelling. I feel like you're referring to a type of conflict I'm not really talking about. I think. I just believe that interesting dynamics on TV are usually with pairs who have different personalities. JaSam are basically the same now. And that's what makes them snoozeworthy to me personally. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823918
ulkis December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: I feel like you're referring to a type of conflict I'm not really talking about. I think. I just believe that interesting dynamics on TV are usually with pairs who have different personalities. JaSam are basically the same now. And that's what makes them snoozeworthy to me personally. I mean, did they ever have different personalities? Wasn't the key to the whole relationship was that she accepted his badassery? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823932
HeatLifer December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 Just now, ulkis said: I mean, did they ever have different personalities? Wasn't the key to the whole relationship was that she accepted his badassery? I'm not talking about accepting his lifestyle, though. I'm talking about the way they communicate. The way they interact and have conversations. Their general vibe in scenes. It's way, way too low-key for me to lead some kind of Dynamic Duo Workplace Partners story. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823947
ulkis December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: I'm not talking about accepting his lifestyle, though. I'm talking about the way they communicate. The way they interact and have conversations. Their general vibe in scenes. It's way, way too low-key for me to lead some kind of Dynamic Duo Workplace Partners story. Well that's what I mean in general too. I mean, I don't know if you're saying Jasam ever used to be that way, but imo they never were, except for when she was angry, her-portrayer-was-negotiating-her-contract Sam. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823956
HeatLifer December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, ulkis said: Well that's what I mean in general too. I mean, I don't know if you're saying Jasam ever used to be that way, but imo they never were, except for when she was angry, her-portrayer-was-negotiating-her-contract Sam. I was talking about JaSam, in general. But added "especially this version" bc I think the NuJaSam is more low-key/Brady Bunch "Hi, honey, I'm home" than OGJaSam. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823981
Oracle42 December 12, 2016 Share December 12, 2016 (edited) Aside from the time Jason was pushing her away to "keep her safe" and the Drunk!Sam Revenge Tour of 2007, they've generally been on the same page; they didn't have a lot of internal conflict. That wasn't generally what their stories were about. Edited December 12, 2016 by Oracle42 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2823994
WendyCR72 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 I have seen Sam called Jason's "ride or die" chick, and I agree that, minus the whole Summer of Sleaze mess from 2006 into 2007, they have always been low energy, but on the same wavelength. I think Guza keeping them involved in shootouts and mob wars hid the fact as they were involved with external "adventure" stuff. With that stripped away, a NuJason that is almost jolly, and no desire to give them anything else, the low energy "kumbaya" edition is all that's left. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2824398
Chairperson Meow December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 4 hours ago, dubbel zout said: Maybe we get a really heated argument when it comes to naming the baby. If Jason names his damned kid after Carly or Sonny, I'll fling my own barware. It's bad enough he named AJ's son after Sonny. Does he really have to disrespect his dead brother by naming his spawn after the "people" who murdered and covered it up? And got away with it. Damn. Get a wig on a stick and have Jason remember something about his brother. Put it on a potato sack. Whatever. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2824427
HeatLifer December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Oracle42 said: they've generally been on the same page; they didn't have a lot of internal conflict. That wasn't generally what their stories were about. Maybe it's time they have internal conflict? But like I said, I'm not saying that OGJaSam was that significantly different. I just think NuJaSam is more of the same and maybe a level worse and I don't think their interaction makes for an interesting partners at work. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2824429
Oracle42 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, HeatLifer said: Maybe it's time they have internal conflict? What, like Dante and Lulu? phbbbbt There were opportunities to add depth to their reunion, their pregnancy and the changes they've made to their lives - Jelly just didn't bother Edited December 13, 2016 by Oracle42 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2824753
LeftPhalange December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 Jason and Sam get into an argument while plotting Freako's murder. Jason wants to set him on fire while Sam wants to use a scalpel. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2825293
Badsamaritan December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 For me, I need at least one solid couple. So that's why I would want to see them mixed in with other stories. If that's not good enough, have the new baby be born with some kind of disability. The way each handles the situation would provide the conflict. I think the Haunted Star should be turned into a gambling boat. Somebody could develop a gambling problem. Bad guys could try to hang out there. It could dovetail into Scummy's Blacklist story - he starts using the place as a hangout and draws other bad guys there. Nobody would know Scummy is undercover so Lulu could be all 'Grrr!' about him giving her place a bad reputation. Maybe Dante finds out Scummy is undercover but he can't tell Lulu. It would give her something the fuck else to do besides have baby rabies. I'm trying to give characters purpose and a job so that conflict could arise more naturally instead of just having characters wander around PC e'ry damn day having the same fucking conversations over and over. I'd have Laura and Lucy go in on Deception together too. I mean, they have a magazine in town now, a cosmetics company would fit right in and bam, you've got 2 workplaces with natural crossover. It would provide another opportunity to integrate some of those college age characters living at Bobbie's boarding house I wished for yesterday. There are lots of ways to fix this show. It's just too bad we viewers care more about it than the actual assholes charged with doing it. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2825409
peachmangosteen December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Badsamaritan said: There are lots of ways to fix this show. It's just too bad we viewers care more about it than the actual assholes charged with doing it. Right! I would be so easy to at least get started on fixing this show and they won't even try. It's sad. And infuriating. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2825681
HeatLifer December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 14 hours ago, Oracle42 said: What, like Dante and Lulu? phbbbbt There were opportunities to add depth to their reunion, their pregnancy and the changes they've made to their lives - Jelly just didn't bother Of course they didn't bother. But the point of this thread is...hoping for a cure. And I hope that for JaSam. They have potential and they are wasted just sitting there, nodding in agreement. Hell, they just could have had some type of discussion about the fact that Jason wanted to move away but now he doesn't want to. Sam could have been disappointed or just questioned him more instead of just being like, "OK, honey." Everything is legit "OK, honey" with them. It's a waste of the actors. And to some viewers like myself who don't watch for couples, it's just boring TV. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826008
dubbel zout December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, HeatLifer said: And to some viewers like myself who don't watch for couples, it's just boring TV. It has to be boring for viewers who do watch for couples. Sam and Jason don't do anything, they just sit or stand around talking. Can't they be cooking dinner at least? Folding laundry? (Or does only Liz do that? Heh.) Anything. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826040
ulkis December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: It has to be boring for viewers who do watch for couples. Sam and Jason don't do anything, they just sit or stand around talking. Can't they be cooking dinner at least? Folding laundry? (Or does only Liz do that? Heh.) Anything. But Sam doesn't cook, because she is a strong woman! I hate that trope. But to be fair, they do seem to have eased off of it in recent years. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826066
dubbel zout December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 They could be talking while ordering takeout. Something in addition to sitting and standing. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826090
HeatLifer December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 33 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: It has to be boring for viewers who do watch for couples. Sam and Jason don't do anything, they just sit or stand around talking. Can't they be cooking dinner at least? Folding laundry? (Or does only Liz do that? Heh.) Anything. Folding laundry while nodding in agreement? No, that wouldn't help unless you're trying to make me cry tears of absolute boredom. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826132
Oracle42 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ulkis said: But Sam doesn't cook, because she is a strong woman! I hate that trope. But to be fair, they do seem to have eased off of it in recent years. Pre-RC, they joked about the fact that Sam was better at fixing car engines and Jason was better at cooking. I remember being surprised by that, given Guza's obsession with making Jason the bestest and manliest man that ever tarped. I guess that Sam learned to cook after she got Danny back and Jason died. But it didn't bother me that she wasn't very good at it before then because I grew up with and then lived with people who were great cooks - so I didn't bother to learn myself until I had to take care of someone else by myself Edited December 13, 2016 by Oracle42 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826143
Melgaypet December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 The pregnancy could have been a good vehicle for conflict between them - what if one of them wasn't happy about having another child? Sam would be my pick, she loves Danny, but her history with pregnancy is not a pleasant one. And Jason could be happier about it, seeing a new start and a way to make up for his assholishness the last time, which if I recall correctly they never really dealt with before he "died."And maybe she just plain didn't want more kids. But no, that would remind the audience that Franco is not a sweet and reformed gentleman and give JaSam some actual character-driven conflict that has nothing to do with Sonny and/or Carly, so it's a no go. Boring. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826417
HeatLifer December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, Melgaypet said: The pregnancy could have been a good vehicle for conflict between them - what if one of them wasn't happy about having another child? Sam would be my pick, she loves Danny, but her history with pregnancy is not a pleasant one. And Jason could be happier about it, seeing a new start and a way to make up for his assholishness the last time, which if I recall correctly they never really dealt with before he "died."And maybe she just plain didn't want more kids. But no, that would remind the audience that Franco is not a sweet and reformed gentleman and give JaSam some actual character-driven conflict that has nothing to do with Sonny and/or Carly, so it's a no go. Boring. You get me. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826435
Oracle42 December 13, 2016 Share December 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, Melgaypet said: But no, that would remind the audience that Franco is not a sweet and reformed gentleman and give JaSam some actual character-driven conflict that has nothing to do with Sonny and/or Carly The degree to which every other character and couple is kneecapped to avoid addressing the HUGE problem with Franco being a PC resident and contract character is infuriating. Most of the potential for actual internal conflict with Jason/Sam involves the last year before Jason "died" and they can't talk about it without specifically talking about the things that Franco did I think jsbt is right, and Sonny & Carly only have as much story/screentime as they do because FV thinks of that as a trade-off for his pets. So, instead of Jason/Sam actually talking about Franco and how much damage was done to their relationship, they talk about Sonny and Carly 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2826526
Chairperson Meow December 17, 2016 Share December 17, 2016 On 12/13/2016 at 11:38 AM, dubbel zout said: It has to be boring for viewers who do watch for couples. Sam and Jason don't do anything, they just sit or stand around talking. Can't they be cooking dinner at least? Folding laundry? (Or does only Liz do that? Heh.) Anything. At least they aren't talking while Jason plays the guitar and sings to her in bed? I really think BM would do that though. I wish they'd reveal he was anyone but Jason. Literally. I'd buy it. Because he's not meant to be a robotic boring guy. So, unless they actually write in and acknowledge that Jason is different, they have a great actor with charisma that they're wasting on a really boring, one-note character. All he's done since the reveal is growl, cross his arms, and kiss Sam. All KeMo has done is cry and makeout with Jason. Sigh. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2835951
cmahorror December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 ABC has a second hour to fill in their daytime slot so why not spin off the Corinthos clan into their own show and let General Hospital return to being General Hospital? They already have the sets, the actors and the crew, it is just a matter of writing the material and allowing some extra time to shoot it. The main casts could guest on the others show - say a mob shooting leads to a mass casualty incident. They could also do some cast trimming when they realize certain characters just do not fit in either show, saving some money. My suggested list would include Franco, Nina and Hayden. I'm sure I can think of more when I have some time. Hell, if it were baseball, I would even say the contact Y&R and offer to trade Billy Miller for Jason Thompson and bring Kim McCullough back on as she is now, appearing every few months. Make the Scorpios and Quartermaines the focus of General Hospital once again. I know this was tried before with Night Shift but I loved that show - Sri Rao did a wonderful job writing for the Scorpios and I feel, put in charge of General Hospital, he could do it again. My only request - no Jagger. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2852418
peachmangosteen January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 10 hours ago, stlbf said: A young teen Cam should be angry at Liz and Lucky. 9 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said: Yeah, both Matt and Patrick are gone from Cam's life, too. I think Cam would/should blame Liz for the fact that all the male role models he had are now gone. I think it'd be realistic for him to still idolize all those men, but hate Liz. Plus it'd be better drama because Liz is actually on the show lol. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2868701
Chairperson Meow January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said: I think Cam would/should blame Liz for the fact that all the male role models he had are now gone. I think it'd be realistic for him to still idolize all those men, but hate Liz. Plus it'd be better drama because Liz is actually on the show lol. I agree, and it's not like ABC doesn't have a talent pool of cancelled shows to pull from. I picture Cam as the guy who played Ben on The Family. An aged up Spencer would be great too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2868739
Ambrosefolly January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: I think Cam would/should blame Liz for the fact that all the male role models he had are now gone. I think it'd be realistic for him to still idolize all those men, but hate Liz. Plus it'd be better drama because Liz is actually on the show lol. Can it be more complex than straight up hate? (I know it is Jelly and FV, so that is out the window) Anger yes, and almost as much as I love Lucky and JJ, and am pissed that he was written off the show as some fucking dead beat, fact is, he didn’t have to straight up leave out of their lives, and if Cam was older, he should know this. Liz does work a full time or nearly full time job to support all three of them, and is pretty much on her own taking care of them. She isn't fucking Luke, he stopped giving a shit about raising Lulu and pawned her off to poor Grandma Leslie until she was cool enough to hang out with him or Carly with her having a regular nanny and Jax, who manages to parent Joss for Australia . My aunt works in a hospital and there have been several instances where she is running on less than 4 hours of sleep, because those kids need to cooked for and taken care off before she can take a nap. I do see her and Cam coming to blows often, and with Cam assuming a father figure type role, especially with Aiden, as the oldest son of a single mother. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2868940
LeftPhalange January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 52 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said: Liz does work a full time or nearly full time job to support all three of them, and is pretty much on her own taking care of them. She isn't fucking Luke, he stopped giving a shit about raising Lulu and pawned her off to poor Grandma Leslie until she was cool enough to hang out with him or Carly with her having a regular nanny and Jax, who manages to parent Joss for Australia . Audrey seems to end up taking care of Liez's kids, especially Cam and Aiden, quite a lot. For as much shit as some other characters get for not spending enough time with their kids onscreen, Liez doesn't seem to spend that much time with hers either. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869089
Ambrosefolly January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 25 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said: Audrey seems to end up taking care of Liez's kids, especially Cam and Aiden, quite a lot. For as much shit as some other characters get for not spending enough time with their kids onscreen, Liez doesn't seem to spend that much time with hers either. Neither does Sam, or Alexis, or Carly or Sonny or Jason and their kids don't seem to hate them, despite the constant danger they put them in as well. Lucky is technically the only man Liz chased away, but if he wanted, he could parent the boys like Jax manages to do, and Carly treated Jax as poorly as Liz treated Lucky (and unlike Lucky, Jax was nothing but wonderful to her during their marriage). Jason and Courtney pretty much set up Zander to be killed, Ric stupid Sonny obsession got to be too much. Jakeson is still hanging around, taking care of Jake, even if he has a new life with Sam. AJ lashed out to Liz with Jake's death and then Sonny murdered AJ and Carly and Franco covered it up months later. She wasn't seriously dating Matt Hunter at the time and Spinelli is the one that sent Matt to jail. And he should be resenting Nik maybe more than his parents because his selfish actions also drove Lucky away. She is only friends with Patrick and it wasn't her doing that made him and Robin move to Cali. Cam shouldn't be any different than any of the other kids. Kids hating parents gets old pretty quickly. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869193
Bringonthedrama January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 26 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said: Audrey seems to end up taking care of Liez's kids, especially Cam and Aiden, quite a lot. For as much shit as some other characters get for not spending enough time with their kids onscreen, Liez doesn't seem to spend that much time with hers either. For me, the difference is that Liz is a single mother and is pretty often seen at the hospital working as a full-time nurse. The other mothers of teen-age or younger children (with the exception of Olivia) like Carly, Lulu or Sam don't appear to actively work for anyone (themselves included), have their husbands or exes as involved co-parents, and seem to ignore their kids as they leave them with nannies (remember when Michael and Morgan were little?) or grandparents all the time anyway. Yes, I know Carly has scenes at the Metrocourt - talking about personal stuff, starting drama with people in the restaurant or at the front desk, or using her access to get into guest rooms. Olivia is the one working at Metrocourt. Months have gone by without a mention of Josslyn; then eventually we hear "she's in Australia with Jax". That's what prompted the jokes that Josslyn moved in with her father permanently and Carly never noticed - esp. once she could help Sonny keep Avery away from Avery's mother. Lulu's only care re: Rocco for a quite a while now is "give him a sibling." She and Dante may mention him in conversation, but she's not seen wanting to spend time with her son, and I don't remember the last time she acted like she actually owned the Haunted Star. Sam wasn't seen with Danny for a long time (napping 'upstairs'/out with Molly, or spending time with Grandma Alexis or Grandma Monica) not sure the last time she was in her PI office or made a reference to a client. Right now, I don't count Sam and Jason being focused on proving Sonny's 'absolute innocence' in Morgan's death as a real case. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869244
dubbel zout January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 (edited) All of this illustrates why giving people kids needs to be more than just a knee-jerk reaction to an actor's RL pregnancy. If they aren't all going to be tocks, they'll have to be dealt with as people eventually. I know the logistics with child actors can be problematic on a lot of levels, but that's another reason to think through adding kids. Also: Is it really so hard to shoot around a pregnancy? Viewers are sophisticated enough to separate the actor from the character, so I think as long as a belly isn't flaunted, it's not as if you need to hide it behind a counter or a big purse. Edited January 2, 2017 by dubbel zout fixed typo in last line 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869247
Bringonthedrama January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: All of this illustrates why giving people kids needs to be more than just a knee-jerk reaction to an actor's RL pregnancy. Which actors? I know Elizabeth has Cam and Aiden because of two of Becky's RL pregnancies, and Lisa's RL pregnancy is why Olivia has Leo. The Sabrina actress is gone, and her baby was written out as well. KeMo does not have children. Not sure about LW's Carly, the previous Carlys, or the Ava actress. I don't think Rocco was a write-in; don't recall any news about Kelly T. being pregnant in RL. I believe KSt. became pregnant while Maxie was already pregnant during the surrogate story. Edited January 2, 2017 by Bringonthedrama Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869287
dubbel zout January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Wasn't SJB was pregnant IRL when Carly was pregnant with Michael? TB wasn't pregnant IRL when Carly had Morgan; same with LW and Joss. Brook Lynn was written in when Rena Sofer got pregnant. I wasn't saying a RL pregnancy was always written in, but for GH it seemed to be the default more often than not. We're just lucky TeCa's second pregnancy wasn't written in, and that Sabrina and Teddy are gone. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869373
ulkis January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 43 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: Wasn't SJB was pregnant IRL when Carly was pregnant with Michael? TB wasn't pregnant IRL when Carly had Morgan; same with LW and Joss. Brook Lynn was written in when Rena Sofer got pregnant. I wasn't saying a RL pregnancy was always written in, but for GH it seemed to be the default more often than not. We're just lucky TeCa's second pregnancy wasn't written in, and that Sabrina and Teddy are gone. It was written in, alas. Teddy was because of TeCa's second pregnancy. Not sure if they wrote in Michael because Sarah was pregnant but they must have been pregnant at somewhat the same time cause she went on maternity leave in April 1998, and Michael was born in Dec 1997. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869484
dubbel zout January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 25 minutes ago, ulkis said: It was written in, alas. Teddy was because of TeCa's second pregnancy. Oh, duh! I forgot all about Gabriel. He's walking without me! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869556
KerleyQ January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 I agree that there should be some story line where Liz's kids, especially Cam, have issues over all the male role models/fathers/father figures they've lost over the years. But, selfishly I don't want to see that story wasted on her relationship with Franco. I'd so much rather see that story play out when Liz finally has a good love interest, where we could see her boys resisting a relationship with a good guy because they figure he'll just turn out like all the others. The conflict is much higher stakes, to me, if they're resisting someone like, say, Matt (seriously, show, bring him back), than Franco. Of course they should resist Franco. They have to realize that, if any of the boys have a problem with Franco, a good size of the audience would be cheering the boys on there. But, if they have them being shits about Liz being in a healthy relationship with a good guy, then the audience is going to be invested in seeing that conflict resolved. Of course, the caveat there has to be that, even though this conflict is going to involve whoever she's in a relationship with, the heart of the story needs to be Liz's relationship with her sons, and not their relationship with her love interest. Obviously, the story has to be somewhat about that love interest, but it shouldn't be Liz and her boys being props in the guy's story. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869561
dubbel zout January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Liz is never the focus of her own story, so unfortunately that very logical and interesting exploration will never happen. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869605
peachmangosteen January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Yea, there is literally no chance of any of this happening because it would ultimately be about Liz and her astronomical issues, which the show doesn't want to focus on. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2869732
stlbf January 3, 2017 Share January 3, 2017 Yep. Not a chance in hell any of that happens on TFGH. Why should Liz have a god damn storyline about her? *Courtney eyeroll* I do not understand why BH/Liz does not deserve a good storyline to play with. All about Liz. Not Franco. Not Jason. Not HayChel. This fucking show. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2870156
Lunula January 6, 2017 Share January 6, 2017 Here are a few of my GH-dreams for 2017... A Valentine's Day party at the Haunted Star and a huge bomb planted by the new Asian crime syndicate (Brad's family, of course) to take out the Corinthos & Jerome crime families all at once. When this happens: New doctors and nurses have to be brought in to deal with fallout and existing staff get some stories (Lucas, Brad, Monica, Bobbie, Epiphany, Felix & Dr O. Put Griffin in there, too and let's see if he can become interesting), but the following people still die (for real die, never brought back, stay dead, forever): Franco, Kiki, Nathan, Valerie, Julian, Nelle, Charlotte and finally...Morgan (because we all know they are going to bring him back). Sonny FINALLY realizes that he has to get out of the mob and works to detangle himself (for real, no take-backs). Carly leaves him for good (no 6th wedding). Lulu FINALLY shuts up about getting "soul custody" of Charlotte and moves on. Now that the Haunted Star is gone, she starts an exciting new career and is happy with her family. With Franco dead, Liz reevaluates her life choices and is happy alone for awhile, with her kids and continues painting. With Nathan dead, Maxie gets angry and finds some of her previous edge - but remains stably alone for awhile. With Charlotte gone, will Nina & Valentin remain together? Who knows, but they make an interesting couple. It is also revealed that Valentin did not kill Nik but rather helped him stage his own death for some intriguing new Cassadine story. He still shot Kevin, but he evolves into the ambiguous good/bad guy. Julian is gone so Alexis can move on. Nik is back and the Cassadines are more involved, perhaps Alexis moves closer to them? Ava gets angry since Julian & Kiki are both dead and morphs into a Helena-type role, especially now since she and Nik are together. Make her conniving, cool, calculating and ruthless - not petty (switching Morgan's meds) and ridiculous (Denise DeMuccio). Also, she gets custody of Avery. I'm tired of that kid being with Sonny. Nelle is gone because she has been written into a corner of being a long-lost daughter of Carly, which makes little sense and is a total rehash of Carly's story. Anna & Jordan investigate the new crime family. Brad works to distance himself. Curtis, Jason & Sam create a new PI firm together and intrigue ensues. No one notices Valerie is gone. Work to give us real relationships between the cast, develop friendships and romances and give the characters some depth. While you're at it, lock every writer in a room and make them watch every single episode from the beginning. Lots of soapy drama without any of this: No more returns from the dead. No more rape stories. No more long lost children of Sonny. And just to be clear, no more new children of Sonny, either. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2880716
TeeVee329 January 6, 2017 Share January 6, 2017 (edited) It'd be great if no one got pregnant this whole year, but I have a nagging feeling Nelle will as part of the "She's Carly!" redux. Edited January 6, 2017 by TeeVee329 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2880739
dubbel zout January 6, 2017 Share January 6, 2017 If it isn't Nelle getting pregnant, it will be Lauren. Babies are always the default story for the wimmins. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2880742
Cheyanne11 January 6, 2017 Share January 6, 2017 On 1/2/2017 at 0:55 PM, ulkis said: Not sure if they wrote in Michael because Sarah was pregnant but they must have been pregnant at somewhat the same time cause she went on maternity leave in April 1998, and Michael was born in Dec 1997. Actually, SJB got pregnant after the whole Michael storyline (or got pregnant near the end of it) and her pregnancy wasn't written it. When SJB went on maternity leave, Carly was in the nuthouse (for the first time) for shooting Tony. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2880750
LeftPhalange January 6, 2017 Share January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, dubbel zout said: If it isn't Nelle getting pregnant, it will be Lauren If either one of these freaks gets knocked up I don't know what I will do. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3732-wishlist-hoping-for-a-cure-or-not/page/10/#findComment-2880751
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