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[Anna Yolei]

51 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Actually, I think the baby switch storyline is the only storyline now, right?

For all practical purposes, it might as well be.

I can't remember a time when any story, couple or triangle, ToD 2.0 included, that so completely took over the show like this. It's bad enough when any story or character gets more than 70 percent of the focus, but this baby switch has been non-stop depressing.

18 minutes ago, TigerLynx said:

think Taylor should have stayed dead, but I don't think she's the problem with Thomas, Steffy, and Phoebe.  Steffy had a completely different personality when she first returned from Europe, was dating Marcus, and working in the mail room.  I think Brad Bell is the problem.  

Well....yeah 😉 but it doesn't help that so much of Taylor's story since 2005 has been caterwauling about how Brooke did her dirty and consistently hissing in her children's ears about what they were owed. Is it any wonder that Thomas lied to get Stephanie's 25 percent  and Steffy thought shitting over Hope was okay with a mother like theirs?

I don't mind making tweaks to a character, especially a new legacy character (the ho-ishness we know and hate didn't really kick in until about nine months into JMW's run, after the Rick thing ended way off screen), but can any of their development stick?

[TigerLynx]

34 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Well....yeah 😉 but it doesn't help that so much of Taylor's story since 2005 has been caterwauling about how Brooke did her dirty and consistently hissing in her children's ears about what they were owed. Is it any wonder that Thomas lied to get Stephanie's 25 percent  and Steffy thought shitting over Hope was okay with a mother like theirs?

Stephanie bribed Thomas into lying so that was consistent for Stephanie. 

Brooke did do a lot of horrible things to Taylor, but Ridge would never leave Taylor for Brooke.  Ridge wouldn't even leave Taylor for Brooke when he thought Bridget was his daughter.  So the narrative is dumb.  Brooke is apparently some saint and Taylor is wrong for hating her even though according to Ridge he left Taylor and was never there for their children.  So Taylor is crazy for hating Brooke because Brooke never did anything to her except she did.  Again, it depends on the day of the week what they are retconning, and it never makes sense.

They did the same thing to Caroline they did to Steffy.  When Caroline showed up she was nice, Thomas made her think Rick was gay, when Caroline found out about Thomas' lies, she dumped him.  Then Rick started paying attention to Maya and Caroline morphed into a scheming manipulative rich girl using her contacts to cause problems for Maya.

Depending on who is playing Rick at the time, he is a selfish prick/sometimes psycho, or a good guy, or a doormat.

I know Liam is drugged, but he is an idiot.  Wyatt is a bigger idiot.  Thomas is a sadistic prick, and Flo needs to drop dead.

Steffy is heading for a fall.  She is being so stupid.  I liked her telling Thomas to shut it, but she is dumb for getting involved with Liam again.

What does Hope think is going to eventually happen with Liam?  Even if Liam doesn't move on with Steffy, at some point, Liam is going to move on.

Liam's comments about Thomas were funny.  Not as funny as Bill's comments were about Liam, but funny.

[ChiefWiggum9-1-2]

Starting the seventh month with only one storyline!  We did have the Stormy/Flo story BUT that it was just an offshoot of the Hope/Beth story.  And we have had the Thomas storyline - BUT again it's just an offshoot of the Hope/Beth storyline.

SEVEN MONTHS!

[nilyank]

I just watched for two seconds and turned it off as soon as I saw Thomas' creepy face.

I also noted that Steffy was walking around in a two piece while Hope was all covered up. Can the show be more obvious.

Edited July 1, 2019 by nilyank

[ByaNose]

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

I just watched for two seconds and turned it off as soon as I saw Thomas' creepy face.

I also noted that Steffy was walking around in a two piece while Hope was all covered up. Get the show be more obvious.

Wait! Hope’s depressed? I would never have guessed with the lack of makeup and muted gauzy clothes that she is wrapped in. Show.....we get it. Hope is in the dumps. LOL!!!!!

Edited July 1, 2019 by ByaNose

[TigerLynx]

I know Liam has been drugged.  However, I think once again the brain dead writers have no clue what they are doing.  Ruffies knock girls out, and they have no memory of what happened.  Whatever this drug is, it apparently gets rid of inhibitions?  Which means some of what Liam is saying it the truth?  Because Liam said some very cruel things to Hope, and is leading Steffy on, but it's not his fault.  It's Thomas?  Brad Bell sucks.

[Anna Yolei]

Agreed. They didn't even need to completely ruin Thomas, we been knew Liam sees Steffy as his easy option. It's what she was way back when before Hope put out under duress.

[Gam2]

Wow, those “love making scenes ( wrestling scenes?) between Flo and Wyatt were so awkward and embarrassing today. I just don’t buy him with her after seeing him with Sally. And how do all of these people have so much time to have sex? Does anyone work, go to the beach, go out to eat, clean the house, do the laundry, go to the grocery store? I know they all have help but good grief, people.

[CharlizeCat]

I ff'd through practically the entire show today. I saw the part where Liam was acting weird and giddy and wanted Hope to dance* and she froze him out.  Wow, Thomas is such an asshole by the way he was browbeating Hope about how "right" it was for Liam to be with Steffy. Just think of how controlling he'll be if they get married. He'll constantly keep her beaten down and erode her self-confidence. Hope really needs to listen to Brooke and Liam and run away as far and fast as she can from that toxic loser. 

*OK. We we all know that Liam wasn't being himself, but he did have a valid point that Hope needs to loosen up just a bit and have some fun.  Her response really told Liam that he shouldn't be trying to have some levity in his life after his and Hope's tragic loss. I thought it was a bit preachy and sanctimonious. I disagree and that if Liam feels like trying to work through the grief to a manageable level where it wasn't totally consuming him, (on his own merit, of course), then power to him. 

[RedRockRosie]

This show is so vile. What kind of writers think the audience gets their kicks out of watching a severely depressed PPD woman suffer for months & months over the loss of her child? Who was told most cruelly that her baby died and given another woman's dead child to hold & mourn over. And if that's not bad enough...we now have a psychopath calling the shots...he uses his own innocent son to play on said young grieving mother's heartstrings to position insinuate himself into her life.  Then he finds out that her precious daughter is actually still alive & well and living with his SISTER of all people!!

Does he tell her...of course not. Bastard.

So he manipulates & threatens all the other people who know (which is ridiculous in itself that so many could be so cruel & selfish) yet never spoke up about this shhh!! SECRET ™ to keep quiet to further his agenda...and when that doesn't work, he basically murders a young girl to shut her up.

Now he is drugging a man & setting him up to be more or less taken advantage of (ok, raped) to further break Hope's heart & wheedle his way into her life. IMO Thomas is the definition of a monster. He is being played with NO nuance...just mustache twirling evil looks & smirks. This damn story needs to end. I couldn't watch any of it.

I'm also tired of Steffy letting it all hang out & Hope's floaty pale outfit for a 4th of July picnic at the beach. This shit just needs to end. Please.

Wyatt & Flo? Just NO...and...don't care. Just waiting til that blows up. Yuck.

Edited July 2, 2019 by RedRockRosie
Forgot some stuff.

[Joimiaroxeu]

So does molly make you act like an unmitigated douchbag?

I think Hope makes it really hard to have any sympathy for her when she's constantly deciding how other people should behave and live their lives.

"Hope will never be alone again." Yikes, coming from Thomas, that kind of sounds like a threat.

Meh, SC can try to sugarcoat it all he/Bell wants. Someone unknowingly under the influence of a mind-altering drug cannot consent to a sex act. What if it had been Steffy who dropped the molly in Liam's drink? I doubt TPTB would dare try to make that seem okay. Nope, so they have to resort to doing it by proxy. Ugh.

[TobinAlbers]

17 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

So does molly make you act like an unmitigated douchbag?

I think Hope makes it really hard to have any sympathy for her when she's constantly deciding how other people should behave and live their lives.

"Hope will never be alone again." Yikes, coming from Thomas, that kind of sounds like a threat.

Meh, SC can try to sugarcoat it all he/Bell wants. Someone unknowingly under the influence of a mind-altering drug cannot consent to a sex act. What if it had been Steffy who dropped the molly in Liam's drink? I doubt TPTB would dare try to make that seem okay. Nope, so they have to resort to doing it by proxy. Ugh.

For as long as Steffy has known Liam, she should've picked up that he was either on something or overcompensating to the point of near mania about how he's really feeling. Either way he's not up for sexy times.

Also the empowered 'I choose me' Steffy would have more self-respect than to be Liam's obvious rebound hump when he obviously was trying to connect earlier with Hope and Hope shot him down.  She has literally been in this exact same position years ago as the willing shoulder to cry on and second choice hump. If the show actually wanted to show her growth, she'd pat Liam on the cheek, throw a blanket over him, and let him sleep it off.  Unless she's really horny I'm not getting her still pining and aching for Liam in the way that he's just so irresistible in this state.

Thomas can burn in hell. Bell is trah-ashing this legacy character but good.

[Waldo13]

Is Raggedy that stupid?  She knows Liam is not acting like himself but she still listens to Lurch (Thomas’s new name). Hey Raggedy what’s wrong with Liam. It’s like what’s wrong with you?  I guess you don’t remember how you were acting when you were on drugs.  Oh I forgot, that was  KM and not you. 

Raggedy you have absolutely no wright to be jealous.  You were the one who Liam in Stuffy’s bed.  I don’t think Lurch will now need a misunderstanding night because Raggedy will now be a willing participant and will no longer be occupied by getting pregnant once again.  I way I see it, Lurch and Raggedy deserve each other as does Stuffy and Liam. Flo is not all peaches and cream but she’s better than Stuffy and Raggedy. 

[nilyank]

18 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Flo is not all peaches and cream but she’s better than Stuffy and Raggedy. 

Flo who continually lies to Hope and Liam's faces as they believe that their daughter died for more than 7 months? Nope.

[TigerLynx]

4 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Agreed. They didn't even need to completely ruin Thomas, we been knew Liam sees Steffy as his easy option. It's what she was way back when before Hope put out under duress.

Yeah, they browbeat the Steffy is the fun wild one, but Hope is the sweet pure one into the ground.  This was so unnecessary.  There is actually a good SL to be mined from Liam having an underlying anger at Hope.  Liam lost his child to, he tried to be there for Hope, she ends their marriage, and then she expresses she doesn't like the idea of Liam moving on with Steffy.  Perfect opportunity to get more insight into what's going on internally with Liam and Hope.  Instead we will get endless days of Xander, Zoe, and Flo arguing about if they need to do anything about the possibility that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death.  Because they did such a bang up job of telling Liam and Hope that Beth is alive, and that problem has been resolved - Oh wait, no it hasn't been, and the three morons continue to do nothing about it.  I can predict their next conversation.  It will go something like this:

Thomas might have done something to Emma, you don't know that, we should find out, why, Emma's death might not have been an accident, you don't know that, we should talk to someone about Thomas and Emma, why, we could get in trouble, - Flo shows up - Mom left town so that's one less person around that knows Beth is alive so maybe we don't have to tell Hope and Liam - Zoe - Damn it the current never ending conversation is about Emma's death and if Thomas had a role in it.  We can't argue about Hope and Beth right now.  We need to concentrate on covering our asses and ONE crime at a time.  None of us have the functioning brain cells to deal with TWO crimes at once.

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

For as long as Steffy has known Liam, she should've picked up that he was either on something or overcompensating to the point of near mania about how he's really feeling. Either way he's not up for sexy times.

But has Steffy ever cared for Liam as a person and not a carnival prize to win or a way to hurt Hope? These last few weeks raising the girls together is the first time I've ever entertained the idea than friendship was possible between them, one that wasn't based around their libido.

She should know, but like Wyatt decided he didn't want to look into his mother's behavior until he had Steffy legally wed, Steffy likely doesn't care.

1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

Raggedy you have absolutely no wright to be jealous.  You were the one who Liam in Stuffy’s bed. 

3 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think Hope makes it really hard to have any sympathy for her when she's constantly deciding how other people should behave and live their lives.

Yes to both. She got what she wanted--did she expect Liam would never move on? This is exactly why she got divorced! 🙄

I have more patience than most where it concerns her illness, but that is really wearing thin even for me. We sat through this with her Aunt Katie when she went playing God and Bill proved far less loyal than Liam.

[TobinAlbers]

58 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

We sat through this with her Aunt Katie when she went playing God and Bill proved far less loyal than Liam.

Bill actually stayed a hell of a lot more loyal to Katie longer than I thought he would. He really hung in there but when he was done waiting for her he was for REAL D-O-N-E.

Liam was drugged mere weeks after being forced by his wife into a divorce. Even under the best of separations, a man is left reeling. Liam was left reeling while still grieving the loss of his child. Hope is in the throes of some serious emotional trauma but so is Liam which no one seems to really think about or care about. Steffy could've proven herself a friend had she instead let Liam cry on her shoulder only and not taken advantage of his emotional vulnerability. But then she's always played on that to her advantage and old habits die hard I guess.

[ByTor]

On 6/27/2019 at 5:58 PM, Waldo13 said:

Hope, what have TIIC done to you?  They give you god awful clothes in the wrong colors and make you into Raggedy Frumpy.

[jenrising]

8 hours ago, nilyank said:

Flo who continually lies to Hope and Liam's faces as they believe that their daughter died for more than 7 months? Nope.

Yeah. Flo's been a scammer and a liar from the beginning. A party to human trafficking. And she has spent months helping to continue traumatizing people who have been nothing but kind to her in order to save her own jumpsuited ass. Nothing Steffy and Hope have done in this situation even comes close. 

[CountryGirl]

10 hours ago, nilyank said:

Flo who continually lies to Hope and Liam's faces as they believe that their daughter died for more than 7 months? Nope.

Flo was a very willing participant in kidnapping and human trafficking, pocketing $50k for her part in posing as "Phoebe's" mom. She is a CRIMINAL. And as noted, on top of her crimes, she's lied about Beth being alive all of these months.

And yet, she's somehow "better" than Hope or Steffy?

I just can't with the ridiculousness.

Come back to me when anything either of them have done is in the same vicinity.

I'll wait...

[jenrising]

35 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Come back to me when anything either of them have done is in the same vicinity.

Hope: nothing in her entire (often self-righteous, stupid, immature) life comes even remotely close.

Steffy: I guess an argument could be made that Cousin Killer is in the ballpark. But killing Aly was self-defense and she never actually succeeded in killing Ivy. Maaaaybe her clear intention to pass what she thought might be Bill's baby off as Liam's but that didn't happen (as far as we know). So no. For all her despicable behavior, she's never done anything as bad as Flo. 

[CountryGirl]

59 minutes ago, jenrising said:

Hope: nothing in her entire (often self-righteous, stupid, immature) life comes even remotely close.

Steffy: I guess an argument could be made that Cousin Killer is in the ballpark. But killing Aly was self-defense and she never actually succeeded in killing Ivy. Maaaaybe her clear intention to pass what she thought might be Bill's baby off as Liam's but that didn't happen (as far as we know). So no. For all her despicable behavior, she's never done anything as bad as Flo. 

And you know how much it pains me to throw that heifer a bone. 

There's still a big wide space between her and Felonious Flo.

[TigerLynx]

Steffy should be dating another guy.  After Liam's mini breakdown, when he sobers up, Steffy, as a friend, should be checking on Liam.  Steffy asks Liam what he was thinking saying those things to Hope, and Laim admits he's angry.  He was hurt when their baby died to, he's tried to be there for Hope, he wants to move forward with Hope, he doesn't really know how to help her, but instead of trying to work through this with Liam, Hope bails on their marriage.  Then Steffy tells Liam he should try to get Hope to go to therapy with him, and if Hope doesn't want to go Liam should go without her.

Instead of this story being about Liam/Hope losing their baby and then finding out she is alive, it's going to be about the triangle that just won't die with Liam eventually dumping Steffy to go back to Hope when they find out Phoebe is Beth.

If that is not bad enough, there is the never ending cycle of Zoe, Flo, and Xander yakking, never doing anything, and whining about how hard this is for them.  Die already you annoying twits.

[Waldo13]

Wow, after seeing your condemnation of Flo, I must clarify my post. I didn’t mean that Flo was above reproach but what I was driving at is that Flo has some qualities Raggedy and Stuffy don’t possess.  Stuffy has always been an entitled bitch and even before Raggedy loosing Beth, she has a tendency to be unbalanced.  Stuffy and Raggedy both love the same ping pong ball and they think it’s a lot of fun to keep knocking him over the net.  Integrity be damned  

[seasons]

I'm sorry if this has been asked, but is JMW wearing a wig?

so tired of that dark dismal cabin hope lives in. I get the symbolism, but sheesh it is depressing.

in over 40 years of wAtching soaps, I've never seen a show move at a slower pace than this. Characters endlessly talking about the same thing. Ugh.

[Gam2]

So now Dope is butthurt that Liam had a few drinks and wanted to have a good time? She had to get tears in her eyes and rush out the door with Douglass? And whine to her mother that Liam had a few drinks and wanted to dance with her? You threw him out the door, Dope! No whining or complaining allowed! God, I hate this show.

[TigerLynx]

I know Liam was drugged, but even if he hadn't been, I don't think he owes Hope an apology for having sex with Steffy.  Apologizing for some of the cruel things he said to Hope is okay (although I think there was an element of truth in some of the things Liam said), but not for trying to move on.  Hope is the one who ended their marriage, and this time around Liam has been there.  In the past, I've detested Liam for his waffling, but this go around Liam was there for Hope, and she is the one who walked away.

It's to bad these nice conversations between Steffy and Thomas with memories of Phoebe couldn't be based on actual sibling caring, and are about psycho Thomas making sure his plan is working.  I did laugh at Phoebe making Steffy's bed when they were kids because Steffy did Phoebe's homework.  That is a very kid thing to do.

[nkotb]

Damn, Steffy, have some pride. If a dude wakes up feeling like shit, & tells you that he has a headache, meaning that he feels like shit, maybe don't rub yourself all over him & cha cha cha while filing your nails. There's a slight chance that he doesn't recall sleeping with you, & maybe didn't intend to sleep with you in the first place. Read a room, girlfriend.

Good guess, Thomas. How'd he know they'd fornicate in Liam's bed & not Steffy's?

[CountryGirl]

Actual live footage of Hauxdi:

Bitch wouldn't know how to read the room if it walked up to her, slapped her, and handed her cue cards using the smallest of words.

Also, this is just too, too fitting.

She absolutely knew something was way off with Liam going from serious and clinging to Hope one minute to dancing and acting goofy the next. Yet she snarled at Thomas, who faux-inquired if Liam was okay with a "He's FINE!"

She's as delusional as a loon if she thinks he was fine or, you know, being his "real" or "fun" self. Yeah, a drunk/drugged Liam is his "real" self. 

I suppose he gave consent, too.

Oh but wait, what did Liam say? Oh that's right, THIS: "I did things that I know I wouldn't have done if I been thinking clearly."

And again, his face and body language speak volumes. 

Just when I think this show can't go any lower, it manages to sink even further into the cesspool it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of crawling out of.

[Anna Yolei]

4 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Wow, after seeing your condemnation of Flo, I must clarify my post. I didn’t mean that Flo was above reproach but what I was driving at is that Flo has some qualities Raggedy and Stuffy don’t possess.  Stuffy has always been an entitled bitch and even before Raggedy loosing Beth, she has a tendency to be unbalanced.  Stuffy and Raggedy both love the same ping pong ball and they think it’s a lot of fun to keep knocking him over the net.  Integrity be damned  

Respectfully, that still doesn't make either one of them worse than someone who covered up a baby switch knowing and watched for months as the bio mother descended into madness and the adoptive mother continues to bond with with her niece. The worst thing I can pin on Hope is her extreme insensitivity towards Steffy after she lost the first Eggo and certainly Steffy is awful, but she's Soap Awful(tm)--i think even she would draw the line at dragging an innocent child into the eternal Logan/Hayes spat.

I get what you were going for--that Flo is slightly more tolerable because we haven't watched her be an ineffable idiot for over a decade at this point--but I can't say that makes her anywhere near good. Maybe after a redemption arc, but I don't trust B&B to pull that off after so many squandered opportunities with Brooke.

Edited July 2, 2019 by Anna Yolei

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, seasons said:

I'm sorry if this has been asked, but is JMW wearing a wig?

A lot of women start losing hair shortly after childbirth due to the change in hormones, and Holly wood styling plus the harsh stage lights do damage in the the best of circumstances--so for once this actually makes sense.

But can't they even try to make it look natural? It's LA; there are plenty of hair stylists out there. I've been to drag shows! I myself am black and wig wearing is nothing new to me or my circle, and yet we pull off better blending than the hairstylists on this effing show!

1 hour ago, TigerLynx said:

It's to bad these nice conversations between Steffy and Thomas with memories of Phoebe couldn't be based on actual sibling caring, and are about psycho Thomas making sure his plan is working. 

Indeed. While I'm glad B&B didn't do to her what Y&R did to Cassie, I hate that Phoebe has been more or less reduced to a plotpoint when she's brought up at all. Phoebe's death brought around Rick and Steffy; she was used as a bludgeon when Steffy decided to hate Hope; Ridge brought her up to shit on Rick to excuse his cheating with Caroline.

They're all sociopaths.

2 hours ago, seasons said:

So tired of that dark dismal cabin hope lives in. I get the symbolism, but sheesh it is depressing.

They're actually had that set for a while going back to at least 2012 and it's never been especially light. But all the other symbolism is a bit much, yeah.

Also telling they didn't show Steffy and Liam screwing....just like they didn't show Thomas and Caroline screwing. Or Ridge and Brooke back when she was with Nick and on medication that Ridge "somehow" mistook as an invitation despite consistent, repeated refusals. I'll also assume they didn't show Ridge and Caroline in the 80s when Thorne was making the world's longest sandwich, either.

I see a pattern here.

Also, I get what Brooke was trying to say about Thomas being untrustworthy but has Liam earned her trust? A better soap writer would have incorporated that shaky past as part of the reason Hope was pushing for the divorce. 

That said, while Liam owes Hope nothing at this point, drugged or not, I'm glad Lope has gotten to the point of discussing hard topics with each other instead of running away. That was the thing that drove me up the damn wall with these two in the past. No matter what trash ending this story gets, I hope this continues on like this in the future.

Also ewwww Thomas, can you *be* any more gross?!  Who asks their sister something like that?!

Edited July 2, 2019 by Anna Yolei

[Gam2]

I laugh every time I see that sorry wig on Steffy’s head. Why can’t TPTB find a decent hair piece for that woman? This is downright embarrassing and I’d refuse to wear it if I were that actress! Also agree about Thomas being a nasty, skeevy excuse for a human being for asking his sister about her sex life! Eeeewwww. Someone please shoot him between the eyes as soon as possible. 

[CountryGirl]

Color me surprised that Thomas didn't have the house wired so he could make sure they sealed the deal or, taking a page from dear ol' Granny, sneak back later and stand outside the door, smiling and nodding, all proud.

There isn't enough brain bleach in the world for me to forget that scene with Satanie listening to Tridge have sex. 

[TigerLynx]

1 minute ago, CountryGirl said:

There isn't enough brain bleach in the world for me to forget that scene with Satanie listening to Tridge have sex. 

Brooke listened to Tridge have sex to.

However, nothing was as horrible as Eric, Brooke, and Rick listening to Deacon have sex with Bridget over the phone except possibly the baby monitor conversation Bridget overheard.

The original misunderstanding with Ridge/Caroline while Thorne made a sandwich was later retconned to, according to Caroline, part of her knew it was actually Ridge and not Thorne {face palm}.

[CountryGirl]

That was just so gross with Bridget's parents, among others listening to Bridget's deflowering. Although I have to admit the reactions and the yelling at Deacon were unintentional comedy gold.

There aren't words to describe my rage over Ridge's taking advantage (at minimum) of Caroline I being retconned into "I knew it was you all along, Ridge." Blech.

[Waldo13]

Thomas Thomas Thomas its all about Thomas but mother knows best.  

Raggedy and Stuffy always want their cake and eat it too. Just because Raggedy doesn’t want sex in fear of getting pregnant but she doesn’t want Liam to have sex either; but, now after hearing about Liam’s escapade, I’m betting Raggedy will have revenge sex with Thomas.  Thomas is weaponizing Douglas to get Raggedy to marry him but is he low enough to weaponize Douglas to ask Raggedy to have sex with his daddy before marriage. 

[Gam2]

Hey folks! There’s this new stuff called birth control! All new kinds and ways to prevent pregnancy! Try them out! I swear if Dope has you-know-what with Tomass and gets pregnant, I will quit this show forever and I truly mean that. You can only insult my intelligence and slap me in the face so many times before I walk away from you.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

There isn't enough brain bleach in the world for me to forget that scene with Satanie listening to Tridge have sex. 

1 hour ago, TigerLynx said:

Brooke listened to Tridge have sex to.

1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

That was just so gross with Bridget's parents, among others listening to Bridget's deflowering. Although I have to admit the reactions and the yelling at Deacon were unintentional comedy gold.

The Unholy Trinity of B&B 😂

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all that caterwauling from Brooke and poor Bridget being deflowered took place almost a year to the day Hope was born onscreen, no? 🤔

Edited July 2, 2019 by Anna Yolei

[Joimiaroxeu]

Why is Hope still living in that cabin? Can't she afford her own apartment somewhere away from No Boundaries Brooke and everyone who lives in Brooke's house? She has no privacy.

Poor Douglas. He's little more than his father's puppet to manipulate Hope now. Psychological child abuse AFAIC.

Is it Halloween already because someone on the show today was looking like Cousin Itt to me. Cousin Itt with a major boob job.

Really Hope? You're trying to play martyr? Get outta here with that nonsense. I can't with this bimbo. No matter what happens she figures out a way for it to hurt her widdle fee-fees.

Cash money on the table, I bet Steffy turns up pregnant from last night's boinking with Liam. That'll take some of the hurt away when she loses Phoebeth. Then Hope will have to hurry and get knocked up again by Liam too because she can't let Steffy win! 😐

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Actual live footage of Hauxdi:

CG, that post almost assassinated me. Stone lethal. 🏆

[Gam2]

Well, wow Steffy. Those enormous boobs when you walked out today were just.....unnecessary. What exactly was the reason for that? And she was really showing them off, wasn’t she? And why the hell did Liam have to go to confess to his ex-wife that he had sex with his other ex-wife? He owes Dope exactly nothing. He lost a child just like she did but has she ever consoled him or acknowledged his loss as being as great as hers?! Hell No. Yet again, it’s waa-waa-waa from Dope. 

[CharlizeCat]

I wouldn't be surprised is Steffy ends up preggers either. At this rate, Liam is populating half the California coast. That would make three kids and he's under 30. 

I have no sympathy for Hope at all. Yes, I know she's messed up in the head, but she has no grounds to be shocked or butt hurt over Liam and Steffy.  While I know that Liam regrets what happened, Hope is the one who handed Liam over to Steffy on a silver platter (which she rightfully admitted). To feel all heartbroken and indignant about what happened is on her. I think her grand plan for everybody's life backfired badly. 

I believe that Liam and Steffy would have ended up sleeping together eventually, just due to the proximity only it would have happened in a more organic fashion. I still don't understand how Liam can stand to be in the same room with Steffy after she cheated on him with his own father. 

[RedRockRosie]

 Steffy's first words to Liam after last night's drugged boink nite was just twisting the salt covered knife in the wound. Are you ready?

Cha Fu'king Cha. Yes, she actually had the nerve to say that to him.

🤢🤮🤯🤢🤮🤯🤢🤮🤯🤢🤮🤯

Nothing like having the girls** enter the room before you do & then displaying them so proudly.

**& I don't mean Kelly & Phoebeth

[mightysparrow]

I admire the sheer intestinal fortitude of the folks who are still tuning in because I haven't been able to do it for months.  I check in here every once in a while but that's all I can do.  When I saw the spoiler that Liam fucked Hauxdilox, my stomach flipped.  Why do they have to back to this tired old storyline?  Is Hauxdi EVER going to be tired of being Liam's side piece?  Even when she was his wife, she was his side piece.  I saw a picture of Liam waking up with Hauxdi filing her nails.  Newsflash to Hauxdi:  It's probably not the first time it's happened to you but if a man looks like he wants to vomit after finding out he fucked you...HE'S JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU!

Reading about most of these people makes me realize that I don't give a shit about most of the characters on this show.  Zoe, Xander, Flo, Hauxdilox, Ridge, Thomas...who the fuck cares!!

Meanwhile, Bell continues to ignore the gold he has lying around.  Why does he continue to treat Sally like she's some second-choice, when she's an amazing, talented, gutsy woman?  Sally should have men begging to be with her, not the other way around.

When is Justin going to stop being Bill's palace eunuch?  I can't remember that last time Justin got his dick wet.  I like Liam but there's something wrong with the world if Liam has two women fighting over him and Justin spends his nights alone, rearranging his closet.

It hurt to see the pictures of Bill and Brooke.  Once again, Bell has gold in his hands but chooses to throw it away and waste his time on dross (that means you, Hauxdi).

I can't believe that there was a time when I really liked Thomas.  I loved him and Sally and I can't believe that Bell has destroyed a legacy character like this.  I agree with whoever said that Thomas should be made into an out and out serial killer.  We already know he's a sexual predator, so why not go the whole way.  This new Thomas is one of the major reasons that I can't watch this show. 

The other reason is this nightmare baby switch story line.  Are there people out there who are enjoying this?  I know that a lot of people hate Hope for daring to want to stay a virgin once upon a time AND for being the woman that Liam loved first and best, but isn't enough enough?  Are Hauxdi fans really loving that she's raising a child that she acquired by human trafficking?  With a man whose wife had to literally push him into Hauxdi's bed.  Or is it enough, as long as Liam's dick finds it's way back?  If Hauxdi is supposed to be such a STRONG, MODERN WOMAN, why is she always so willing to settle for so little? 

There is an upside.  Apparently, Hunter Tylo hasn't been on for months.  There really is balm in Gilead.

Thanks to the strong and the brave who are willing to endure what I can't.  I won't be back until I hear that Hope is getting her baby back.  Not a minute before.

[TigerLynx]

As tired as I grew of the Ridge/Taylor/Brooke triangle, at least there was more to Ridge/Taylor and Ridge/Brooke than sex and misery.

I think the happiest I have ever seen Liam was when he was drugged, and being an ass to Steffy and Hope, yes Steffy to, because I don't consider, "Hope is so sad and miserable, but you're fun," to be all that great of a compliment.

Then again Steffy is so easy and willing to accept crumbs from Liam, and Hope is trying to play the martyr in a situation she created, so not a lot of sympathy for them either.

The one consolation Liam, Steffy and Hope have is they are not as pathetic as Zoe and Flo which isn't saying much.

[TigerLynx]

OMG.  You know it's a bad episode when Steffy is the most rational person on screen.

I've over Hope's poor me act.  Liam lost his child to, and he didn't want a divorce.  However, that's why Liam should never have agreed to the annulment, and moved in with Steffy.

Also, where was all this you need to be with Steffy and Kelly when Steffy was pregnant with Kelly?  Hope had no problem accepting Liam's marriage proposal then before she ever found out she was pregnant with Beth.

When Hope and Liam find out Beth is alive, Hope will want Liam back.

Which brings me to the real bad guys in this SL - Zoe and Flo, and I am adding Xander to that list to because he still hasn't told the truth either.

At the top of the lists of selfish psychos though, is Thomas.

And Ridge is still a bastard.

Edited July 3, 2019 by TigerLynx

[Ohwell]

Steffy looks like a cave woman from 1,000,000 years B.C. with that wig.

[Ohwell]

I guess Liam is afraid of giving Hope the vapors if he busts the shit out of Thomas? Too bad, because that's what he should have done today.

[Gam2]

Okay, so now Thomas, Ridge and Hope know that Liam and Steffy had sex last night. Next, Ridge tells Brooke. Liam tells Wyatt. Wyatt tells Flo who feels just terrible awful because she knows that would have never happened if she’d been honest long ago. I cannot imagine my father discussing my sex life with me or asking questions about it. What are these people thinking?

[Anna Yolei]

16 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

I think the happiest I have ever seen Liam was when he was drugged, and being an ass to Steffy and Hope, yes Steffy to, because I don't consider, "Hope is so sad and miserable, but you're fun," to be all that great of a compliment.

God, ain't that the truth? Liam is every bit as awful and selfish as Ridge, save for asking consent.

[TigerLynx]

25 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

Okay, so now Thomas, Ridge and Hope know that Liam and Steffy had sex last night. Next, Ridge tells Brooke. Liam tells Wyatt. Wyatt tells Flo who feels just terrible awful because she knows that would have never happened if she’d been honest long ago. I cannot imagine my father discussing my sex life with me or asking questions about it. What are these people thinking?

They aren't.  They just do whatever they want, they don't care who they hurt, and then they whine when things don't work out for them.