B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[La di Diva]

Bravo Drivethroo!! 

Imagine that episode -- it would set up a Quinn/ Katie SL that could go in so many directions.  Hate, murder, revenge.  All the family could be involved -- people taking sides.  Steffy back on her evil dangerous Quinn wagon. A Brooke and Katie verbal throw down. Spectra Fashions and Sally 2.0 somehow involved.

Hopefully the lurker writers who read here are taking notes.

Edited April 25, 2017 by La di Diva

[RuntheTable]

Holy Stolen Couture Collection Batman! I think I have found a way we can prosecute those fiends........

Fifteen years and $10 million? You have to be joking. Those gowns were not worth that much, and didn't cost FC's that much, and fifteen years in prison for something that was just a blip on FC's success scale? Mind blowing! 

Nicole! Not my favorite character, but I will have to give her props for staying true to her friendship with Coco. Female friendships are so rare on the B&B, so I will take what I can get. There is also the added benefit of this coming between Zende and his wife since he feels they should all be staying clear of that wretched Spectra Gang. 

Steffy's hair got big again. So did her annoying arrogance. 

Ridge and Steffy are no better than Shirley for wanting to use a young girl to achieve their goals. 

La di Diva & Drivethroo, keep up the good work; hopefully someone from Show is reading and taking notes. 

[CountryGirl]

Recap for Tues. 4/25/17:

We open at FC where Ridge and Steffy are chatting about Brooke's reunion (which Ridge smugly assumes will be short-lived) before they turn their attention to the recent company issues. That's some big hair you got there, Madame CEO.

Carter arrives with Lt. Hot Dog, announcing they may have a case against SF after all and I call BS.

Double BS on grand larceny etc. etc. and Sally doing hard time to the tune of 15 years. 

Ridge and Steffy quickly jump on the PROSECUTE PROSECUTE bandwagon and even though Sally and company were totally in the wrong, I just want to slap them both. 

However, key to their case is getting a confession from Coco. Good luck with that.

Over in the design office, RJ tells Zende that the theft wasn't Coco's fault but Zende doesn't care, stating that he can't have anything to do with the Spectras again, now that they've ripped them off. Coco was innocent in all of this so Zende needs to take a seat.

RJ gets a text, telling him to come to the CEO office and as he heads that way, he flashes back to all of his memories with Coco. All three of them.

When he arrives at the office, Ridge and Steffy immediately mention Coco and he immediately goes on the defense. That's when they drop the bomb that they need him to convince Coco to sign a confession implicating her sister.

RJ is pissed as they are talking about sending Coco's big sister to prison. He reminds them that Thomas will have an issue with this as well because of his feelings for Sally. Steffy and Ridge could not care less.

Ridge: "It has to be done."

OK, King Ridge.

At Il Giardino (which is apparently the only restaurant in town), Coco is sitting down to lunch with Nicole whose weave is even worse than usual.

They discuss the theft with Coco remarking that the worst part (for her) is that her sister used her.

Coco then reveals that she's looking for a job at the restaurant as she's not welcome at Forrester and doesn't feel comfortable working with the family who betrayed her at SF.

Nicole inquires as to the status of her relationship with RJ and Coco tells her that RJ believes that she wasn't a thief or disloyal to FC. She's clearly very hurt (and rightfully so) about how Sally could do this to her and be so disrespectful to her own sister.

Coco: "That bond is broken."

Nicole sympathizes and hates what's happened but in a moment of maturity, she reminds Coco that Sally is still her sister and that the people they love (perhaps she's referring to Sasha here or even Maya as well) make mistakes sometimes. 

Over at SF, it's business as usual with all hands on deck to fill the orders that are pouring in.

Shirley is pissed because Sally is not all happy-happy-joy-joy over their ill-begotten success.

Sally, through gritted teeth: "I would be enjoying this if they were MY designs and not Forrester knock-offs." She's also still very upset about hurting Thomas and her little sister, recalling the look on Thomas' face when he arrived at the showing and realized what she had done.

Shirley is too busy screeching about how they pulled this off and their worries about money being over to notice.

Sally insists she'd done stealing designs and that the next time they have a fashion show, it will be HER designs. She hopes that Coco's relationship with RJ can be salvaged and knows her's with Thomas is toast.

Shirley, with an assist from Saul, urge Sally to get on board. She finally agrees to milk this collection for all its worth until they're back in the black but warns them both that after that, SF will be so squeaky clean that she may even win back Coco's trust or even impress the Forresters, assuming she lives that long. I wouldn't hold your breath on the latter, Sally.

Shirley trots out her tired old tune of how she'll never be accepted by the Forresters. What an insufferable bitch!

She then makes the utterly baseless accusation that Sally is judging her great aunt and at Sally's hurt look, Saul steps in to remind Shirley that unlike her aunt, Sally can actually design. 

Sally tells them that she is determined to do things the right way in the future. Not if Shirley has her way...

Not exactly a barn burner of an episode...

[Cool Breeze]

All this Ridge revisionist history is annoying.  Ridge has never been a "conqueror" of women.  He's never targeted women just to satisfy his ego.  He's never been malicious in his relationships with women.  He was legitimately torn between Taylor and Brooke, both of whom he loved, for decades.  It's so funny - in any random scene with multiple characters, it's almost always Ridge who's been with the fewest partners.  Eric and Brooke are the ones who really get around.

(And, no Brooke, I'm not buying your self-serving pity party.  Ridge hasn't always left you for someone prettier or younger.  In fact that never happened.  Not one time.  Also, you don't have a history of being betrayed by men.  Quite the contrary, your history is riddled with men who devoted themselves to you entirely, e.g., Eric, Thorne, Deacon, Nick, Connor, etc.  Ridge is the only one who had divided loyalties and left you.)

[Videnbas]

Where does Coco live? If she isn't comfortable with her family at Spectra, surely she can't be sharing an apartment (or wherever they are when they aren't at the office) with them?

[drivethroo]

47 minutes ago, Cool Breeze said:

All this Ridge revisionist history is annoying.  Ridge has never been a "conqueror" of women.  He's never targeted women just to satisfy his ego.  He's never been malicious in his relationships with women.  He was legitimately torn between Taylor and Brooke, both of whom he loved, for decades.  It's so funny - in any random scene with multiple characters, it's almost always Ridge who's been with the fewest partners.  Eric and Brooke are the ones who really get around.

Ridge was introduced as a playboy who conquered women from the very first episode.  That's how he got engaged to Caroline I in the first place.  That's why Bill Sr. didn't want him anywhere near Caroline I.  It's not revisionist history.

Now has Ridge always left Brooke for someone younger & prettier? No, because Ridge usually left Brooke for Caroline or Taylor.  So that bit IS revisionist history but Ridge being a conqueror of women isn't.

[bannana]

1 hour ago, drivethroo said:

Ridge was introduced as a playboy who conquered women from the very first episode.  That's how he got engaged to Caroline I in the first place.  That's why Bill Sr. didn't want him anywhere near Caroline I.  It's not revisionist history.

Now has Ridge always left Brooke for someone younger & prettier? No, because Ridge usually left Brooke for Caroline or Taylor.  So that bit IS revisionist history but Ridge being a conqueror of women isn't.

I haven't watched for a long time, but Ridge did leave Brooke for Katie, and he was about to marry Brooke, IIRC.  And of course he left Katie for Caroline.  But this is all NuRidge.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, drivethroo said:

Ridge was introduced as a playboy who conquered women from the very first episode.  That's how he got engaged to Caroline I in the first place.  That's why Bill Sr. didn't want him anywhere near Caroline I.  It's not revisionist history.

Now has Ridge always left Brooke for someone younger & prettier? No, because Ridge usually left Brooke for Caroline or Taylor.  So that bit IS revisionist history but Ridge being a conqueror of women isn't.

I guess it's fair to say very little of that has been seen since the very earliest seasons. It's not revisionist history per se, but for most of Ridge's history, he's been shown as being torn between two women. Other than a few months with Ashley Abbott and the whacky hijinks with that email Morgan sent him, I can't think of any other women he's been remotely interested in in the time I've followed this show. 

But him leaving Brooke for younger women is a complete asspull, since he wasn't with her when he got with Caroline. And Katie is about five or so years younger than Brooke and that was more about sticking it to Brill, so that hardly even counts anyway.

[Pickles]

I think RJ spent too long in the spray tan booth.

Honestly, RJ and Coco both appear to be about 12 years old. NO interest. 

[AussieBabe]

Part of me wants Quinn to go ape shit on grammy dearest. Katie's smugness is irritating, but that grandmother needs to be dealt with because this was her brainchild. I am over Katie lording and parading around like some kind of bully/boss.  Spectra stole Quinn's jewellery designs, but she was more pissed at Katie. Let's not get into just how inane and ridiculous this storyline is. Like we all can make top of the line jewellery without having the skills needed to do so.

[Waldo13]

Isn't Coco a college student?  How was she putting herself through college to begin with?  All this morality Coco, but technically you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor.  

Since when does Ridge and Steffy have any sense of wright from wrong.  To them is dam the consequences and full speed ahead to fulfill their selfish desires.  What wrong has Ridge and Steffy ever paid for. 

I still say the only thing Spectra stole was the concept, not the designs themselves. 
I'm glad that RJ told Coco the truth about jail time for Sally. If the truth was withheld, I would have called total bull shit. Now the only bull shit would be if the fact that RJ showing Coco the designs will get a pass. 

Give me a break RJ, cost FC a fortune?  Steffy, millions of dollars?  Exadurate much?      

Nicole is getting better and better while Zende is getting more and more like a self righteous Forester. Nicole and Coco are better together than they could ever be with Zende and RJ.  

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Other than a few months with Ashley Abbott and the whacky hijinks with that email Morgan sent him, I can't think of any other women he's been remotely interested in in the time I've followed this show. 

Well, there was that little thing with his daughter...I mean sister...I mean no-blood-relation-at-all Bridget (yuck).

Edited April 26, 2017 by ByTor

[Anna Yolei]

4 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Nicole and Coco are better together than they could ever be with Zende and RJ.  

??????

[La di Diva]

Yes, Coco that's exactly what RJ wants. He wants you to choose the Forresters over your family.  He wants you to help the Forresters put your sister in prison for 15 years. 

Other than "stepping up" and "doing the right thing"  and "proving her innocence" to Ridge/Steffy, what does Coco get out of it? The undying love of a 16 year old boy? Not going to happen.  Rehired by Ridge?  That will never happen. Notice he didn't agree to it when RJ asked. Ridge merely said "make the call."

How do we know the Forresters -- particularly Steffy -- won't also prosecute Coco as an accessory?  Steffy ranted yesterday she wanted Sally and Coco to pay, 

Steffy, who was looking particularly Puffy today, was going on about all the things Sally had done to her -  the food fights, crashing a wedding, stealing FC designs.  As if all of those things were equally criminal.  Um ... no Puffy ... they're not.

And Puffy, I know you think that whatever you and the Forresters want automatically happens and that you rule Bell A and the world ... but an indictment is not a conviction,. Merely saying that Sally will be indicted and serve 15 years in prison doesn't make it so.

Yes -- you might get Sally indicted for grand larceny and industrial espionage, and there might be a trial if the DA thinks there is a case, but Sally will only go to prison if she's convicted. And she'll only be convicted if there is enough evidence to do so.

 Indicted. Convicted. Such big words Puffy, but you need to learn the diff.

I know Puffy -- I know, Sally is an awful person. She smashed cake in your face and ruined your hair and make-up and she dared to date Thomas and came to your wedding as a guest.  Annoying maybe, but those aren't criminal acts, because if face-in-the-cake is criminal Sally has a case against you, Puffy.

Fearless prediction.  RJj will talk Coco into ratting out her sister.  For her trouble Ridge/Steffy will also have Coco prosecuted,  This will lead to a major RJ/ Ridge falling out, a major Coco/RJ falling out (one can only hope) and probably Coco recanting her confession.

[Waldo13]

Let's get real hear. The whole story is a complete and utter shit show. Yes I know I'm repeating myself. RJ was born on June 2004, so he's actually 12 years old.  Bill mentioned that RJ is 16. It was also mentioned that he was back from boarding school. I would say that college is not referred to as boarding school.  

Now to Coco. According to RJ and Thomas, the intern requirement was for the intern to be in college. Unless Coco is a genius, she graduated HS at 16 to make her about the same age as RJ. But there is no mention of where Coco lives, how she pays for college, and how she gets around town so fast. Does she have a car?  Is she really Supergirl?  If they were going to age RJ, I would buy the teenage love story if RJ was 18 and graduated from HS. 

My last argument, which I repeat, is why can Boris and Natasha nail Sally to the wall when Stephanie and Eric couldn't press charges. From what I know about Stephanie, she makes Steffy look like a Pussy cat.  They are trying to get Coco to put her sister in jail for a pat on the back and a slouchy limp noodle. I would bet the farm that Natasha would forbid Coco from seeing slouchy once the case is over. 

?ende, your getting closer to Katie's STFU moments every.  

[Videnbas]

5 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Let's get real hear. The whole story is a complete and utter shit show. Yes I know I'm repeating myself. RJ was born on June 2004, so he's actually 12 years old.  Bill mentioned that RJ is 16. It was also mentioned that he was back from boarding school. I would say that college is not referred to as boarding school.  

Now to Coco. According to RJ and Thomas, the intern requirement was for the intern to be in college. Unless Coco is a genius, she graduated HS at 16 to make her about the same age as RJ. But there is no mention of where Coco lives, how she pays for college, and how she gets around town so fast. Does she have a car?  Is she really Supergirl?  If they were going to age RJ, I would buy the teenage love story if RJ was 18 and graduated from HS. 

My last argument, which I repeat, is why can Boris and Natasha nail Sally to the wall when Stephanie and Eric couldn't press charges. From what I know about Stephanie, she makes Steffy look like a Pussy cat.  They are trying to get Coco to put her sister in jail for a pat on the back and a slouchy limp noodle. I would bet the farm that Natasha would forbid Coco from seeing slouchy once the case is over. 

?ende, your getting closer to Katie's STFU moments every.  

Nobody ever said the interns had to be in college. I think the words they used were "in school". And Coco said in a bonus scene she thought RJ was her age. I still think they are supposed to be the same age.

[Waldo13]

1 hour ago, Videnbas said:

Nobody ever said the interns had to be in college. I think the words they used were "in school". And Coco said in a bonus scene she thought RJ was her age. I still think they are supposed to be the same age.

I stand corrected about in school and not college.  The interns interviewed were looking to get into fashion and fashion design. They all seemed to be post HS graduation.  Thomas said he didn't want a gopher but someone looking to contribute to FC.  The previous interns, Zende, Nicole, and the one Thomas slept with, were definitely not HS students.  

Coco flew out to LA to be with Sally for her big preview. Learning that Spectra was dead, Coco said that the only reason she felt comfortable coming out here with her sister and grams was to get a foot into the fashion business.  To me, even though it's not specifically mentioned, Coco has already graduated HS and looking to expand her horizons.  Which again it leads me to believe that Coco is at least 2 years older. Coco can think they are the same age because he has responsibilities, at FC, and doesn't seem to go to school.  

[RuntheTable]

Ridge has no shame; willing to emotionally blackmail anyone, now his teenage son, in order to get what he wants. RJ hasn't been my favorite character, but I find him almost palatable now that he has put down his cupid bow, and is focusing on his own life. I guess I am one of the few, maybe the only one, who likes RJ and Coco. Courtney Grosbeck raises the bar for RJ, and I think he just lights up around her. But there is also the fact that I am a sentimental sap, and find young love so endearing. What Ridge and his henchman daughter are doing is wrong on every level. How the fuck does Steffy know "what the right thing" is? Maybe she should just head over to Spectra with a tire iron, or be lurking at the top of the steps when Sally is leaving, or hire someone to screw with the buildings wiring. Here is a news flash for you Fauxdilok's; what young Coco needs is to be left the fuck alone. She has had her entire world turned upside down; she has lost her internship, she has lost RJ, and she has lost her sister. Now these two evil adults want to further rip this young girl's world apart by having her rat out her sister. Listening to these two would be assassins waxing on to RJ about "doing the right thing", and "this is how she can prove her innocence" had me on the cusp of a full on rage blackout. Really? The only way she can prove herself is to turn on her sister? If they didn't believe Coco the first time she was telling them she was used, then why are they willing to listen to her now? Oh, of course, because now what Coco has to say can help them, and we all know that when it comes to Ridge and Steffy, it is always about them and what they want. And they have no intention what so fucking ever of hiring the girl back. Once they get what they want from her, they will kick her out of the building, tell her to hit the road and not look back, further crushing Coco, because now she has not only lost everything, but has also possibly sealed her sister's fate for the next fifteen years. I hope this drives a big, huge, ugly wedge between RJ and his vaunted father. It is long overdue that RJ find out what kind of person his dad really is. And Ridge deserves nothing but to loose everyone he is suppose to love. But not his horrible female spawn. No, he can have her.

And...........as an added bonus, RJ could follow his mother on over to Spectra once she joins up with them!!!!!PLEASE SHOW!!!!

Ah Zende my man, you just keep on talking like that to your wife, because my feelings are softening towards Nicole. I can get behind someone who is willing to stand up against the angry majority, particularly when one of them is their husband, because they believe in their friend.

17 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Other than a few months with Ashley Abbott and the whacky hijinks with that email Morgan sent him, I can't think of any other women he's been remotely interested in in the time I've followed this show. 

 

15 hours ago, ByTor said:

Well, there was that little thing with his daughter...I mean sister...I mean no-blood-relation-at-all Bridget (yuck).

And don't forget about Donna.

Edited April 27, 2017 by RuntheTable

[CountryGirl]

Recap for Wed. 4/26/17:

At FC, RJ is decidedly pissed off as Boris and Natasha lay on the full-court-press for him to convince Coco to turn on her sister.

RJ: "I can't believe you expect Coco to send Sally to prison for 15 years." Well, believe it, kid, because these two could not care less about anyone but themselves and that includes YOU.

Ridge, proving me right as usual, "She'd be righting a wrong and proving to us that she's trustworthy - isn't that what you want?" Ridge is truly a boil on the butt of humanity, using emotional blackmail on his own flesh and blood. 

RJ attempts to extract a promise from Ridge that he'll rehire Coco if she does what they want.

Ridge's answer? "Call her, RJ." In other words, they will never, ever, ever hire her back. They will use her to get what they want and then kick her to the curb and encourage RJ to stay far, far away from  her.

Backstage, Zende is blathering away to Nicole about trying a new Korean restaurant although he doubts it will be as good as his pepper steak presumably. Nicole is rifling through some designs and is clearly distracted and Zende is not pleased to learn the reason why is because of her friendship with Coco.

Zende: "It's cool that you met with her and you're friends, but she's a member of the family that STOLE from us." And she was innocent in all of that, just as much, if not more, of a victim. So STFU, Zende!

Nicole counters that Coco is a good person and she feels badly for her. I am liking you more and more these days, Nicole.

Coco arrives at SF and it's clear Sally is relieved and happy to see her.

Coco makes some deserved snide comments to Sally about stealing designs. Sally swallows those and asks Coco what's she been up to lately.

Coco: "I've been looking for work and I'm up for doing anything...except theft." Ouch but again, not undeserved.

Sally tells her they need her at SF and promises that she's going legit. 

Coco: "You stole from the Forresters with ZERO accountability." Her cell rings and she sees that it's RJ. Sally implores her to answer and when she does, RJ asks her to come to FC and Coco agrees.

Sally expresses her hope that things will work out for her sister and RJ but Coco shakes her head and says it can't happen now.

Sally apologizes and expresses remorse for what she did and explains without making excuses that their grandmother got in her head. 

Coco likely has no doubt what their grandmother is capable of, having been raised by her, but isn't going to let Sally off the hook here because it was still her choice to steal. 

Sally, seeing Coco's anger, "I promise I will make it up to you." I'm not sure you can at this point, Sally. The trust is gone.

Coco leaves to meet RJ at FC and Shirley enters Sally's office a few minutes later. 

Sally clearly isn't in the mood for any of Grams' pep talks about how they've hit the jackpot, being much more concerned now that the dust has settled about the repercussions of her reckless actions. She is visibly torn up over hurting her little sister and wonders how in the world she will ever make it up to her. Grams' expression tells me she doesn't really give a flying fig about any of that. Ends means and all that.

At FC, RJ informs Ridge and Steffy that Coco is en route. He's very skeptical that Coco will be on board with putting her sister behind bars and again, the likelihood of that is slim to none but it's the principle that matters the most.

Nicole and Zende arrive at the CEO office and are brought up to speed. Nicole does not look happy about this plan at all, but Zende, of course, is pleased.

Puffy takes a moment to make it all about her and rants about all of Sally's "crimes," which apparently include the food fight and the wedding crashing and someone needs to hold me back.

Is this bitch for real? She gave as good as she got in the food fight and Sally could come after HER for assault when she slammed her head into the wedding cake. As for her own wedding, Thomas invited her and Steffy paid her back by shoving her into the ocean, not even knowing whether or not Sally could swim. 

Coco arrives at FC and is remembering back to her three memories with RJ. 

Pam spots her and tells her RJ is waiting for her in the design office.

The theft is rehashed and Coco again apologizes with RJ again proclaiming his belief in her innocence. With some reluctance, he broaches the subject of how she can help. He tells her that they have a strong case against Spectra (and as I've said before, that's highly debatable). However, they need someone involved to confess.

Coco quickly realizes she is that someone and asks what she'll need to do.

RJ, casual, "You'll have to sign a court document."

Coco, the wheels starting to turn in her head, "Court....wow."

She assumes they are suing for damages and RJ agrees (of course, that's only part of it). 

Coco: "I guess Sally's plan to revive Spectra Fashions is down the drain."

RJ asks if she's on board and Coco, commenting on Sally profiting off of stolen goods, agrees. But you aren't telling her everything, RJ!

Coco: "It's the right thing...plus, it might even help her with Thomas." And that right there? Shows how much she does care about her big sister. At those words, RJ gulps and looks pained.

RJ: "Um...there's more."

Coco stares at him, caught off guard.

He tells her there's a lawsuit for larceny and industrial espionage and criminal charges. Coco nods but her expression is getting more and more concerned by the moment. 

Coco: "Criminal?"

RJ: "Sally could go to prison." Coco's eyes bulge at this and almost immediately, there are tears there. 

Coco, looking sick to her stomach: "Prison?" She shakes her head. "For how long?"

RJ is ashamed, I think, and is not meeting her eyes. "Up to 15 years."

Coco is clearly blindsided and confused. "Look, I would do anything for you, RJ, and I really want to make this right, but to go against MY SISTER? To put my own sister behind bars?" Her eyes bore into his. "Is that what you WANT? You want me to put my own sister in prison." 

RJ swallows nervously while she just stares at him as if she no longer knows him.

If RJ is willing to go along with his family, then she is the one who should stay far, far away. Because I don't think FC has a leg to stand on and Coco's confession will all be for nothing, but it could very well be the nail in the coffin where her relationship with Sally is concerned.

Yes, Sally fucked up royally by caving to Grams, but she has always looked out for Coco and for her to turn her back on her for this slouchey little noodle (an apt description from upthread) is unfathomable. And it won't do a thing to put her back in the Forresters good graces and who gives a shit about that when they are so desperate for revenge, they'd use an innocent young woman to betray her own flesh and blood.

Truly disgusting.

[nkotb]

Last night, I had a crazy dream that our dear Steffy married Nick Newman, in the Chancellor mansion, with a very pregnant Amber officiating. Make of that what you will. No, I didn't have any alcohol or meds anywhere near bedtime. Apparently, I'm just a smidge overinvested in our show/s.

[Cindylou]

where was all this righteous indignation about right and wrong  after Steffy killed Allie?  I would think murder trumps copying some designs!  That is what is pissing me off about this story line, is to hear her go on and on about  Sally needing to be held responsible for her actions, when Steffy has never been held accountable for hers.  I know the history of the show and how everyone seems to get away with everything.   I hope Thomas gives them so much shit for this.  (and i have never really liked Thomas, but i am rooting for him to kick his snotty sister and father in the butt and be Sally's hero!)

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

Steffy married Nick Newman

Now there's a match made in heaven!

[tricknasty]

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

Last night, I had a crazy dream that our dear Steffy married Nick Newman, in the Chancellor mansion, with a very pregnant Amber officiating. Make of that what you will. No, I didn't have any alcohol or meds anywhere near bedtime. Apparently, I'm just a smidge overinvested in our show/s.

A Bratz doll and an ape. LMAO! Wonder what their offspring would look like

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

Steffy married Nick Newman,

 

36 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Now there's a match made in heaven!

What about Steffy/ButtBiscuit?

I don't know which one I feel sorrier for marrying the other.

[ByTor]

Don't smack me, @Anna Yolei...*whispers* I like Billy.

[tricknasty]

2 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Don't smack me, @Anna Yolei...*whispers* I like Billy.

Too late. I just gave you the slap heard around the world :)

[ByTor]

OUCH! :)

[TobinAlbers]

3 hours ago, nkotb said:

Last night, I had a crazy dream that our dear Steffy married Nick Newman, in the Chancellor mansion, with a very pregnant Amber officiating. Make of that what you will. No, I didn't have any alcohol or meds anywhere near bedtime. Apparently, I'm just a smidge overinvested in our show/s.

That is THE best! Now my question is who was Amber's baby daddy? Or was it an immaculate conception?

I can't see Steffy marrying Nick for anything other than his hundreds of millions of dollars. Buttbiscuit I could see being a fling.

[Cool Breeze]

On 4/26/2017 at 10:11 AM, drivethroo said:

Ridge was introduced as a playboy who conquered women from the very first episode.  That's how he got engaged to Caroline I in the first place.  That's why Bill Sr. didn't want him anywhere near Caroline I.  It's not revisionist history.

Now has Ridge always left Brooke for someone younger & prettier? No, because Ridge usually left Brooke for Caroline or Taylor.  So that bit IS revisionist history but Ridge being a conqueror of women isn't.

Ridge was introduced as a playboy.  I've watched this show from the beginning and that's always been more "tell" than "show".  We never really saw any of that. And we certainly haven't seen it since he met the Logan family so they can all pipe down about his "conquering ego".  Regardless, as has been pointed out, for the last thirty years, he's not been a playboy.  That's like still calling him a star soccer player because he scored a couple goals in a high school game.

Edited April 27, 2017 by Cool Breeze

[Kitty Redstone]

I really can't stand Ridge and Steffy.  Their sense out entitlement is off the charts.  These two assholes think everyone, everywhere should bow down and do what they want, when they want, because they say so.  And if people don't smile, bend over and comply right away, then they use all forms of manipulation to get their way. 

It used to be that characters like these would get an epic dose of comeuppance after every scheme.  But they two never pay for anything.  It's quite unsatisfying.

[nkotb]

1 hour ago, TobinAlbers said:

That is THE best! Now my question is who was Amber's baby daddy? Or was it an immaculate conception?

I can't see Steffy marrying Nick for anything other than his hundreds of millions of dollars. Buttbiscuit I could see being a fling.

I don't know, & my alarm went off, so we'll never know! The awesome thing was that Nick was rocking that Nick Carter, late 90s/early Backstreet Boys' hair, where it was parted down the middle & floppy. HOT! Amber wore straight-up red as the pastor, which was so perfect for the scenario. It was a funny dream!

1 hour ago, Cool Breeze said:

Ridge was introduced as a playboy.  I've watched this show from the beginning and that's always been more "tell" than "show".  We never really saw any of that. And we certainly haven't seen it since he met the Logan family so they can all pipe down about his "conquering ego".  Regardless, as has been pointed out, for the last thirty years, he's not been a playboy.  That's like still calling him a star soccer player because he scored a couple goals in a high school game.

In fairness, he couldn't continue his soccer dreams, because his soccer ball became lodged in the fence between the Forrester mansion & the home that Katie now owns, & was only recently found by Will, the amateur sleuth, who likely gets his detective-skills from both of his parents. It's not really Ridge's fault that he lost out on soccer glory is all I'm saying. 

[Gam2]

Earlier today on the Y&R board, I said it was so boring that I thought we needed a murder mystery. I suggested Phyllis and Billy (for those of you who watch that one). I also think we need a murder mystery on this one to give some interest to this boring show. I suggest Katie, Gram Shirley or Ridge (just because I hate him so much). What say you? 

[Waldo13]

Our future RJ?  WTF?  He's as bad as his father in his entitlement. RJ, if it was your father you would keep your slouchy mouth shut.  

Wash rinse repeat. Like Nicole and Zende, Coco and RJ are in love in a hot second.  RJ pressuring Coco almost the same as Wyatt pressuring Nicole.  Of course Coco, working at FC and meeting RJ is the best thing in your life SO FAR, but my dear, you only lived less than 1/4 of it.  

Coco, no matter what you do you will be the enemy.  RJ can dangle a job all he wants but he's not the boss. Not even close.  

Instead of a murder mystery how about we find out that RJ is actually Damien. I thought the look in his eye while browbeating Coco, was kind of evil. Coco don't make a deal with the devil. 

Edited April 28, 2017 by Waldo13

[TobinAlbers]

Bill could be ripe for a 'Who shot/stabbed Bill with his phallic building model?' ala Dallas type storyline. If he finds out about Quinn and Ridge and decides to expose it in one of his tabloids and it strokes Eric out Quinn, Ridge, Eric, RJ, Pam, Katie, and Rick could all lose their shit and try to take him out. I'd even say Wyatt could be a suspect if say Alison witnessed a heated confrontation between them with Wyatt confronting daddy over hurting the one parent that's always been there for him. Maya may do it on behalf of Rick in a Lady MacBeth move. Add in his gunning for demolishing The Spectras and you have Sally, Coco, Sherly, Saul, and Darlita also ripe as suspects for trying to off Bill.

In fact the only ones who wouldn't have a motive to hurt Bill is Nicole and Zende and Liam and Will unless Liam and Will made a brother pact to take down dad and frame Wyatt for it for control of Spencer Publications.

And the real culprit? Bill getting so hot and heavy with his building model that he trips and falls and stabs himself!

Edited April 28, 2017 by TobinAlbers

[Kitty Redstone]

4 hours ago, Gam2 said:

Earlier today on the Y&R board, I said it was so boring that I thought we needed a murder mystery. I suggested Phyllis and Billy (for those of you who watch that one). I also think we need a murder mystery on this one to give some interest to this boring show. I suggest Katie, Gram Shirley or Ridge (just because I hate him so much). What say you? 

Steffy or Ridge would be fine with me.

Has B&B ever done a murder mystery?

[Videnbas]

2 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

Steffy or Ridge would be fine with me.

Has B&B ever done a murder mystery?

I think the closest to a murder mystery B&B came was Ivana's murder back in 1995 (but back then, the viewers knew who the murderer was, only the characters didn't). We also had a few "attempted murder mysteries" - Who shot Grant? (1997) and Who shot Stephanie? (around 2010?). And of course the mystery of Montemayor's murder, which was simply dropped with no explanation.

Edited April 28, 2017 by Videnbas

[nkotb]

$Bill really is the daytime king of the snark & one-liners, & he was on yesterday. 

Wyatt mentioned something about Ridge possibly sleeping with a fan. $Bill: "Fan? He's a dress-maker!"

$Bill, looking intrigued at the thought of Ridge & Quinn sleeping together: "Nah, they hate each other." Not so much, there, Stallion.

Wyatt suggests that maybe Ridge & Katie hooked up: "No, Katie & Brooke are in a good place now. He's already been there with her, he took her to a park & gave her that string to wear on her finger." He ain't wrong when he sums up that entire relationship.

$Bill, walking in on Bridge at Brooke's house (which was weird to this viewer as well): "And the beat goes on."

Me: "dun dun dun dun dun, you better lose yourself in the music, the moment, you own it, you better never let it go. You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow, this opportunity comes once in a lifetime..."

[ByTor]

14 hours ago, Gam2 said:

I suggest Katie, Gram Shirley or Ridge (just because I hate him so much). What say you? 

My 1st thought was Liam, but trying to watch Steffy cry would be too painful.  Maybe Wyatt?

7 minutes ago, nkotb said:

$Bill, looking intrigued at the thought of Ridge & Quinn sleeping together: "Nah, they hate each other." Not so much, there, Stallion.

I guess Bill is forgetting that not all that long ago he slept with Quinn despite hating her.

[nkotb]

13 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I guess Bill is forgetting that not all that long ago he slept with Quinn despite hating her.

...& irony of ironies, that revelation was what sent Ridge to Dubai to interrupt the first Brill nuptials, which ultimately resulted in Ridge kidnapping Brooke from the alter & winding up swimming with the fishes for a few days. 

[coffee drinker]

2 hours ago, ByTor said:

My 1st thought was Liam, but trying to watch Steffy cry would be too painful.  Maybe Wyatt?

I guess Bill is forgetting that not all that long ago he slept with Quinn despite hating her.

I still want Steffy to dump her drip of a husband and go back to daddy-in-law $Bill.  Forget Brooke and Liam.  Steffy/$Bill.  That's where the angst would be for daddy Ridge.  Having the beloved surviving dotter sleeping with his enemy, imo.  Steffy hasn't been around the block quite as much as Brookee Hogan.  

[JD5166]

God Steffy is a vile bitch! Not an ounce of empathy in that one. I can't help it, I love new Sally! 

[Kitty Redstone]

Having Steffy call Sally and her family cockroaches who could get by eating peanuts was really awful.  Stealing is of course wrong, but it's nothing compared to killing someone and attempting to kill another. 

[Waldo13]

I'm so sick of the Foresters and their entitlement.  A Forester and a Avant really?  Since when were Avants elevated to royalty?  Oh I forgot, since they married into it.  In essence they Avants are really no better than the Spectras in the hierarchy of the elitist. 

Coco spoke the mortal words of Terry Malloy ("On the Waterfront"), "I could have been a contender".  Well not exactly but that was the gist of her conversation with Sally. 

Spoke by the words of a true bitch when asked what we get out of this, by Thomas, SATISFACTION.    

Does anyone else realize what's truly ironical in the Sally storyline?  When it came to the video of Steffy crushing Aly's skull, Steffy begged Ivy, who's more virtuous than Coco, to burry the truth but she has no qualms about playing on the morals of a sweet innocence teenager to get SATISFACTION. 

If the truth about RJ showing the designs, to Coco, doesn't come out, than the writers are more fucked up than I thought they were.  I'm hoping that this will come out and help exonerated Sally or Thomas coming to the rescue saying that he showed Sally the designs. I'm not holding Sally harmless but It would really piss me off if the Foresters win out especially Steffy. Let Steffy eat cake!

[Gudzilla]

OMG STEFFY STFU !!!!

 

 

.... sorry for the outburst.

[Gam2]

AMEN, GUDZILLA!!!  Not sorry for the outburst. 

[RuntheTable]

So, in Steffy's world there are crimes that should be punished and there are crimes that shouldn't be punished. What is most important to remember in either of these arguments is that no crime Steffy commits is punishable. I agree that Sally needs to be held accountable, but how about we keep it in line with the crime? I am really having a hard time with $10 million. If Forrester is realizing that kind of change for each of their collections, how on God's green earth are they ever in financial trouble? And is it going to take fifteen years to design some new gowns? When you consider that ninety percent of the time Forrester employees are engaged in personal conversation, visiting with their significant others, kissing, fondling, steam room forays, desk sex, couch sex, arguing, fighting and anything that would pass for not working; this might just be the best thing that has ever happened to them. Overall, the material they produce at their usual leisurely pace is pretty lackluster, so maybe having a fire under their asses will make them think clearer and better, and they will produce prettier dresses. But still, when you weigh the fact that all Steffy dealt with for clocking her cousin upside her head with a tire iron was a few months of VideoGate; the whole fifteen year, $10 mil thing does leave one scratching their head. Particularly when the worst and most annoying thing about VideoGate wasn't Steffy's discomfiture, or her worry about going to jail, but Ivy always talking about the "Vydeeeeeeo!" So Steffy Puffy Fauxdilok's can shut her bratty little mouth about "Satisfaction." Because it is about so much more, and none of it right, or any good. Only a spineless coward would take a broken young girl and use her to destroy her sister. I get that Coco agreed; she is lost and hurt and confused, and doesn't know which way is up, and certainly shouldn't be making major decisions. Ridge and Steffy know this, and they know that dangling RJ and Forrester in front of her right now is powerful enticement. Then, after asking her to do this you call her a "cockroach" and say she should be able to live off of peanuts. It really does beg the question who is the real criminal here? Isn't telling someone they can have something if they will give a sworn confession coercion?

Steffy further fucked herself when Thomas said "Steff, this should have been a family decision", and Steffy, in complete arrogance and disregard for her brother said "just because you aren't on board, doesn't mean it's not." Thomas should have smacked that shit down. I know he is mixed up right now, and I do want him to side with Sally, but not to piss off his sister, but because he really wants to help Sally. That would sting Miss Sassy Pants right square in the ass. Speaking of Sally, I loved how she took Fauxdilok's power away. Quinn should be watching and taking notes. There will be so much less "Satisfaction" for Steffy if Sally voluntarily turns herself in. And, two triple that bonus, Sally will look a lot better for taking Coco out of the mix, and she will hopefully win some points with Thomas for doing both. Adding to my pleasure is the fact that Sally was looking smokin hot today.

I am continuing to come around to Nicole.

That little baby girl is to die for.....pure cuteness overload.

Edited April 29, 2017 by RuntheTable

[Gam2]

I loved Sally stepping up to take the blame for what she and Granny did to save Coco's reputation with the Forresters. How nice to have someone, anyone realize they'd done something wrong and take the blame for it. Unlike Steffy Forrester. I really like this Sally and this Coco. The Forresters could learn a lot from these "lesser than" folks. This story line may take a good turn with these new characters. I do look forward to something new in this tired old soap. 

[mightysparrow]

Puffy can die anytime, the sooner the better.  She actually called the Spectras 'cockroaches'? Last I checked, none of the Spectras had bashed someone's head in with a tire iron.  I desperately want Hope to return to LA, riding six white horses.  It will be worth it to see Puffy's face struggle to try and show emotion.

Speaking of crappy relatives...I know Coco is supposed to be a sweet young thing, but I'm having a hard time believing that she's going to throw her sister to the wolves for the fucking Forresters.  Yeah, Sally betrayed her sister, but that's between the two of them.  We're supposed to think of RJ and Coco as some great romance but they're fucking TEENAGERS.  Coco barely knows RJ and she's going to send her sister to prison for 15 years for him?  Bullshit.  RJ had absolutely no business showing top secret designs to a fucking INTERN!  I can't believe that nobody's mentioned that, especially Fauxdilox. 

I'm cheering Bill's 'sleuthing' on.  I want him to find out the real reason Brooke left Rumple so he can spill that tea all over the Forresters.  Imagine the look on Fauxdilox face when she finds out that her Daddy was macking on his stepmother!  AGAIN!!!!!!

Edited April 29, 2017 by mightysparrow

[MsTree]

I thought RJ & Coco were in their early 20s. Not that it makes a huge difference either way.

[tricknasty]

9 hours ago, MsTree said:

I thought RJ & Coco were in their early 20s. Not that it makes a huge difference either way.

It was specifically stated that RJ is 16. We were led to believe Coco is college aged. Writers haven't made up their minds yet regarding Coco