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[Cupid Stunt]

1 hour ago, Pickles said:

Brooke thinks it is appropriate to run over to Eric's house and tell him Katie has a crush on him? And that Katie is an option for him, if he wants to dump Quinn? I hope Quinn takes both Katie and Brooke out.

When did the happy marriage of her "best friend" ever stop Brooke -- or any of the Logan's -- from horning in where her opinion or personal involvement was inadvisable?

[KLovestoShop]

Are there no other available men, within one generation of her own age, for Katie to hit on?  No?  I just don't get why Katie is lusting over a 70+ year old shriveled shvantz when she's got the goods to catch a decent man near her own age.  

I just don't like the writing for Sally, Jr, nor do I like her portrayer and the way she's handling the character.  While many might not have liked the Sally storylines, Darlene Conley made that character her own, and to have a sloppy parody of Sally, Sr. just downgrades Ms Conley and her great acting skills.  This young actor needs to tone everything down, including her hair, costumes and overacting.  

I really hope that the restaurant scene between Steffy and Sally Jr doesn't happen again.  If I want to see slapstick comedy, I'll watch the Walnut episode of the Dick Van Dyke Show or the candy factory episode with Lucy and Ethel.  

Edited February 10, 2017 by KLovestoShop

[grisgris]

Huh? Eric has been going over to have secret lunches with Katie? If I were Quinn, I'd be rightfully pissed off that he was doing that one the sly. And Brooke? I've actually stopped keeping score where whose time it is now for payback between Brooke and Katie. If so, then Brooke just signed Katie's death warrant.  Geez, what a blithering idiot.

Wow.  Eric must need to have his ego stroked as much as Ridge does. I can't believe he was playing so dumb when Brooke was talking to him about Katie. He should have shut that down when the first words slipped outta her loose lips.

I am totally liking Thomas in this comedic role, "Uh, yeah ... I guess I hit on Sally Spectra." Ha! Ha! Ha! I think this is going to make for some great new viewing and will hopefully pull Steffy out of the dreadfully dreary and dull scenes with Liam.  And please, let's get the Zindcole wedding over STAT and send them off on a honeymoon so we don't have to waste a lot of time next week ff-ing through that.

The writers are being very clever with Darlita dropping the "Einstein" name.  I do think now that the new and improved Spectra gang is a spoof and now that I get it, I'm OK with it. Let Sally be as OTT as she wants to be. The actress (tho she could rein in it a tad) is channeling Sally 1 very nicely. Shirley is a new element, so we have sort of a verse Sally-Macy relationship going on there.  Macy was always the voice of reason and was able to quietly rein Sally in when she was going too far and I see Shirley stepping more into that role as the characters develop. 

It was interesting that "Eye on Fashion" came calling.  I wonder what $Bill thought of that debacle at the restaurant and I have no doubt that he'll send Wyatt around to Spectra to do a feature on Sally or something.  I think Bill will know exactly what he's doing, too. There is no point in siccing Liam on Sally. Besides, he's never at work at SP anyway.

Let the fireworks begin!

[RuntheTable]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

Brooke plays coy, almost teasing Katie about Eric; at the same time it is pretty clear she doesn't approve. Then she beelines straight to the Forrester Mansion to pimp her sister out to a man who is old enough to be her grandfather? The father of two of her children? Not only that, but a man who has been involved with every female in her family except Katie?

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What is wrong with Brooke? Because that was just some shit. I mean, absolute nonsense. Just. Too. Stupid. For. Words. And now, and this is what will really pull my trigger, is that any reaction Quinn has will mean she has reverted to her old ways. Let me tell you, if that had been me that overheard that ish? Oh, I am not so sure Brooke would have remained on her feet. She would have either been knocked on her ass by my fist, or by my words after I putt her on full blast, and told her all about her indecent self. What a lousy, disgusting, and wholly inappropriate thing to do. Quinn has every right to be angry; not at Katie, but at Brooke. So Katie has a crush on Eric? Take it as a compliment and roll. Eric doesn't reciprocate, and I think he would shut Katie down if she tried something. But for Brooke to come into your home, and lay some stuff like that on your husband? Yeah, Quinn should be well and truly pissed. But again, anything she says will be seen as a threat, when anger and suspicion would be seen as normal from anyone else. Katie is already telling people that Quinn has threatened her, but she hasn't disclosed why Quinn was upset. She never tells them that she has been asked multiple times to stop just dropping in. Now we find out that she has been having secret lunches with Eric. That is going to really fire Quinn up because Eric hasn't mentioned it. And it is clear that Katie is enjoying herself; funny how she didn't like it when she was losing Bill to Brooke. I really can't believe I am going to say this, but I hope that Ridge comes to Quinn's defense. I hope that is what breaks up this Bridge reunion. I hope he see's Brooke and Katie's actions as those of mean girls ganging up on the outsider. And I hope that he is just as grossed out as I am that Brooke would suggest such a thing to Eric. Would that spell the end of Eric and Quinn? I hope not, but my opinion is they have been doomed ever since Katie became their neighbor and Quinn and Ridge "discovered" each other.

Darlita? Oh Dear, this is the first chinch in the armor for me. It isn't the actress; I caught a good vibe between her and Sally, but that name? Really? I agree with others that it should have been Darlene. Much more fitting. For the life of me though, I don't see Thomas or Rick fitting in here. Rick is far too uptight and serious for this crew, and I think Thomas's breeeeeeeeeding would eventually kick in and kill the honeymoon. Wyatt however, would be a good fit.

Best line of the day:

Thomas "You want a Cappuccino with that?"

[Anna Yolei]

Like every other SF/FC union, I don't expect either to stick around for the long gone haul. But if it cuts some of Rick's pity parties and gives Thomas something to do besides being creepy and stalkerish for six months, I consider it a win. Especially for Thomas who has languished as a character for over a decade now and for whom the biggest love stories involve being statutorily raped, a green card marriage, and lusting after not one but two women his father has been involved with.

[grisgris]

Interesting thoughts about Rick and Spectra. Yeah. He seems too stuffy. OTOH, his stick-in-the-mud demeanor might be the dress weights needed to put in the hem of that take-flight bunch. I think Thomas would work out OK because of the youthful energy with Sally, Saul II and Darlita. (BTW, her introduction was pretty cliche'd slapstick nonsense.)  Wyatt? Absolutely!

Here would be an interesting twist. Eric winds out about SanFran-Gate and while he is understanding and forgiving towards Quinn, not so much so with Ridge, especially when the initial MO is finally revealed. Ridge is fired (again) from FC and takes flight to Spectra because he needs a job and thinks it's a big FU to Eric. Thomas will be away again to visit the baby and to Ridge's chagrin, Rick is the CEO.  But that's OK with Ridge, as he's hell-bent on revenge aimed at FC.

To add insult to injury ... to Ridge's dismay, he discovers that BILL is the majority owner of Spectra.  (This has been kept top-secret until then.) So the "Dressmaker" has to answer to $Bill AND Ricky-Boy.

I could actually picture TK in a comedic role interacting with the Spectras.  I envision him floundering around trying to find his footing and Sally would take him down a peg or two until they all hit their stride. He could probably do very good things with that group and they could all dysfunction as a big happy PLATONIC family.  It would at least be a departure from him glowering/skulking around at FC and having wet dreams about Quinn.  As a bonus, Puffy's face would melt.

[politichick]

Wake me up, please, when the slapstick is over. It's too much.

Brooke is an idiot. She entered into an affair with her sister's husband so why would she care if said sister fucked her ex-husband, baby daddy, could have been father if things had worked out with Beth? She has no class and no taste and I totally hope Quinn takes her down. Katie, too, because now Quinnsane is going to be on her ass because of Brooke's big mouth. I also hope that Quinn or Brooke tells Ridge and he in turn asks Brooke what the bloody hell she was thinking. They should have brought in one less buffoon over at Spectra and used the money to hire a suitable boy for Katie.

What a mess.

[Artsda]

So Brooke's actively trying to ruin a marriage, cause her sister to look like she's chasing a married man and get Eric to cheat? I hope  Quinn goes Quinn on her.

[TobinAlbers]

15 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Like every other SF/FC union, I don't expect either to stick around for the long gone haul. But if it cuts some of Rick's pity parties and gives Thomas something to do besides being creepy and stalkerish for six months, I consider it a win.

An interesting play would be for FC to buy Spectra and make it a sub-brand that Thomas and Rick have majority control over. That way Rick and Thomas wouldn't be so quick to bail if it added to the bottom line at FC.

Sally 2.0 would constantly be fighting to free the company from their clutches even as she learns the fashion game from being inside the walls of FC.  It gives her a business woman empowerment arc to strive to make Spectra independent again from the Forrester men. Brooke or Katie actually have the money to be her backer.

Actually WTH isn't Katie the financial backer for Spectra? Bill just dropped a crapload of money on her in her SECOND divorce settlement. She has the experience running Forrester at one point, she has time on her hands, and Katie's timidity in her private life and boss bitch businesswoman vs. Sally's flamboyance and extroverted passion is a great dichotomy. Sally 2.0 needs a business mentor, Katie needs a cheerleader who supports her but also tells her when she's being stupid.

Edited February 10, 2017 by TobinAlbers

[Anna Yolei]

Even better, why isn't Brooke her mentor? Katie was little more than a figurehead when running FC, the way Steffy is now. Brooke has been where she's been; granted, she didn't have to build FC from scratch but she did have to learn on the job about running the business and she came up with many creative new ideas. Her experience would be invaluable. 

[politichick]

8 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Even better, why isn't Brooke her mentor? Katie was little more than a figurehead when running FC, the way Steffy is now. Brooke has been where she's been; granted, she didn't have to build FC from scratch but she did have to learn on the job about running the business and she came up with many creative new ideas. Her experience would be invaluable. 

Because Brooke actually allegedly works for the competition. Katie would work, though. No conflicts except her stupid crush on Eric, which shouldn't matter because Spectra has miles and miles to go before it can ever consider itself a real rival to Forrester.

[TobinAlbers]

5 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Even better, why isn't Brooke her mentor? Katie was little more than a figurehead when running FC, the way Steffy is now. Brooke has been where she's been; granted, she didn't have to build FC from scratch but she did have to learn on the job about running the business and she came up with many creative new ideas. Her experience would be invaluable. 

Brooke definitely would be the more logical choice except that for all intents she's a Forrester. Her loyalty would be towards building the legacy of FC for her children.

Katie is a Logan and the mother of a Spencer. She's a misfit like the Spectra team. She's still got a lot to prove and is hungry for accolades - and in need of a story where she ain't pining for a guy. When it's time for Katie to be romanced it needs to be a man who pines for her and she be resistant to getting involved and having her heart broken again.

[CountryGirl]

Recap for Thurs. 2/9/17:

Brooke is telling Katie about her visit with Hope over lunch at Brooke's place. Katie, clearly not interested, quickly cuts to the chase and asks Brooke what Hope thinks about her walking down the aisle YET AGAIN with Ridge. Subtle, isn't she?

 Brooke tells Katie that Hope wasn't surprised just like everyone else. 

Katie: "I can think of at least one person that I was married to that seemed a little surprised." Bitch...

Brooke dodges that little dig and asks Katie about her own love life (what love life?)

Katie: "No, not really. I have got a few, um, business prospects that look interesting. I've got the house. Eric pops over for lunch every now and then. It's nice. Feels a little clandestine." 

Brooke: "Because Quinn doesn't know?" Katie just smiles and laps up the attention. What the actual fuck? What decent woman has lunches with a married man behind his wife's back, KNOWING wife has said to knock that shit off? But Katie, despite her clamoring to snag Taylor's Teflon Halo, is not a decent woman. She clearly revels in spending time with her "crush."

Katie: "Yeah, she would just jump to all kinds of conclusions." Very logical conclusions.

Brooke: "Would she be wrong?" Nope, she wouldn't be.

Quinn is at home with Eric, working on some jewelry designs. She wants to know if he's going out to lunch and mentions that Linda said he sometimes does that. Notice she doesn't ask whom he lunches with which the old Quinn would have.

Zende and Nicole are goofing around in the CEO office. No one cares. Her weave is still intact, I see.

Steffy bursts into the room with Thomas and Pam right on her heels.

Pam: "Steffy, what happened to you? You're all covered --"

Steffy: "Not now, Pam! Oh, that I am covered in cake? Thank you, Pam. A number of people have already mentioned that, thank you." She is pissed and I love it.

Thomas: "Do you want a cappuccino to go with that?" Definitely the line of the day @RuntheTable

Steffy: "No, don't even start with me, Thomas. Tell me how you even know that Spectra girl." How disrespectful to keep calling Sally a girl when I'm betting they are about the same age.

Sally, Saul, and Shirley are back at SF, anxiously awaiting to see if Sally's little publicity stunt has paid off. Sally's hair is softer and she looks lovely in a royal purple sweater.

They squeal with glee when they see it's been posted.

Back at FC, a stunned Nicole (and RE's face was priceless - in a good way - for a change) and Zende, embarrassed Pam, pissy Puffy, and a trying to restrain from laughter Thomas watch Steffy twist in the wind.

Nicole, deadpan, "So, a food fight?"

Steffy: "Thomas, was this planned? Was this all because you're unhappy with me?" OMG, she is so ridiculous. Sally christening her Queenie is too right.

Thomas: "Stef, stop it. I bumped into her once, literally, at the bar." Actually, twice, but who's counting?

Steffy: "So you just hit on Sally Spectra?" Eyes him closely.

Pam: "Thomas!" Oh don't have a cow, Pam.

Thomas: "No, I didn't hit on Sally Spectra. I don't think..." He stops, "No, I probably hit on Sally Spectra. Yeah." The bolded is my second favorite line of the day and dare I say, PF has quite the comedic touch. I much prefer him laughing (at Steffy's expense) than pouty and petulant. And since the change in him is part and parcel of bringing Spectra back, I'm all for Spectra remaining front and center on canvas.

Steffy, rolling her eyes, "Unbelievable."

Sally and crew are still awaiting the update and there it is - they have "likes, glorious likes." Her scheme seems to be a success.

Quinn and Eric are talking and Quinn repeats the now-familiar refrain of being afraid this won't last. Well, stop fucking around with your stepson and maybe this marriage has a chance of lasting at least until your first anniversary.

Katie: "Do you think I'm doing something wrong?" Brooke's cue to tell her "no."

Brooke: "Do you think you are?" What a stupid question. Of course St. Katie doesn't think she ever does anything wrong.

Katie: "No! Just having lunch with a friend. That's it." The heifer doth seem to protest too much.

Brooke: "It sounds to me like you think you're getting away with something." And we know how Katie just LOOOVES that. "Are you starting to see Eric as maybe more than just a friend?" Starting to??? Brooke honey, that shipped has sailed into full on crush and how can I steal him away from Quinn mode?

Back at FC, they discuss the history of Spectra vs Forrester while Pam scrounges up some new clothes for Steffy. Hey, I like the cake and water look. It's an improvement on her Elvira get-up.

Zende, helpful for a change, announces someone posted the entire video of the food fight online.

And it's hilarious as it was the first time.

The views and likes keep ratcheting up and Sally is convinced that with this kind of PR, the kind money can't buy, they'll have folks lined up down the street to get a look at their designs.

Speaking of, Saul voices his concerns (again) but Sally says they only need one dress for each model. 

Eric is trying to assure Quinn and being the voice of reason (as usual): "I wonder if the anxiety you sometimes feel doesn't come from the idea that we're not always gonna be the same way we are now. Things happen in this life that we can't really prevent, we can't protect each other from."

Quinn: "I get so afraid of losing you that I hold on too tight. And that's been my downfall in the past. And I made a mental note to myself not to do that again, but then... then there's this voice inside my head that says 'oh, Quinn, he could do so much better than you.'"

Eric: "No. Quinn, no. Don't do that."

Quinn: "And then I think to myself -- what would I do before I would ever let that happen?" Um, I think the better question is what WOULDN'T you do?

Katie is trying to rationalize how she feels about Eric (a man old enough to be her grandfather and a man that's married and fathered children with one sister and bedded/wedded her other sister!) and chalks it up to his long-time presence in their lives. Uh huh...

Do you believe this face?

Thomas, trying to restrain from giggling, "I've seen the comment 'catfight' about 100 times."

Steffy: "Did you see her last post before she ambushed me?"

Nicole: "14 views. She's piggybacking on your popularity."

Thomas: "Mm-hmm, and giving us a master class on how it's done." You can tell he is secretly loving this.

Steffy: "That bitch." You would know from bitch. Bitch.

Sally is congratulating herself with Saul in agreement when a foxy young woman walks in. Saul already knows her and introduces Sally to "Darlita." Okay, show, that's a little two twee for my tastes, but I'm so happy they've brought Spectra back, I can live with it. There's all kinds of nods to history with Darlita calling Sally "Sal," the "Einstein" reference, and other Darla-esque-isms.

A rep from Eye on Fashion shows up and he's full of questions. You can tell Sally is all over answering him and then some.

Brooke shows up at the Forrester mansion, having dropped Katie and Will off at their house. She tells Eric, who is happy to see her, that she wanted to catch up. He assures her Quinn stepped out for some air so they're okay to chat. 

She tells Hope is great and asks how he is doing, teasing him about being a man of leisure. 

Eric: "Does it seem like that? Yeah, it's funny. When Stephanie first died, i could hardly bear to be in this house, and now I can hardly bear to leave it. It's great having my own life."

Brooke: "Sounds like Katie's in the same situation. Before her divorce, she was placating Bill, and now she has her own house that she can decorate any way she wants. She has her child that she can raise any way she wants. And she has you. A neighbor that she adores and she knows she can count on. Don't tell her I told you this, but I think she's developing a crush on you." Are you KIDDING me with this crap, Brooke? Also, Bill couldn't have cared less how Katie decorated their home and as for Will, so long as she wasn't getting her lush on, he was good with her parenting. Don't get me started with the crush nonsense. What's your angle here, Brooke?

Eric's face doesn't exactly look all that enthused to me. You be the judge.

Also, Quinn has returned from her walk and has heard every word.

The folks in the CEO office are still glued to the screen as Sally, upping the ante, gives a live press conference for Eye on Fashion.

She really lays it on with how Spectra is for everyone: "Well, that is what Spectra is all about -- for the normal people of the world. Not the rich, not the poverty-stricken -- that's what thrift stores are for -- but for all of us average Americans struggling to make ends meet with a little extra left over for buffalo wings and a brew or two on a Saturday night." Thomas is impressed.

Then her comment in response to EOF's remark about Steffy Forrester being the new shooting star of LA Fashion: "

Oh, please! I'm gonna eat that Queenie for lunch! Forrester is so last century. Their couture line has gout from all their lobster and champagne. Come to our new re-grand opening preview. Bring your friends! Bring your mom and the kids!"

She tells him to expect the preview in one week. Saul is shitting bricks.

Steffy wants them to turn it off - Thomas thinks it's hilarious (and it is!)

Pam: "She doesn't think she's hilarious. She thinks she's Coco Chanel."

Nicole: "So, what are you gonna do?" This directed at an-about-to-lose-it Steffy.

Steffy: "I'm gonna tear that red hair out." Wow, what a classy, professional woman to lead FC. And please, in a fight, Sally could take you with one arm stuck in a fake fur coat.

Eric thinks Brooke is making the crush up and cannot imagine Katie even using that word. That, right there, shows me how little he knows Katie. She's a heartbeat away from staring out her bedroom window again.

Eric: "But I've known Katie forever, and I know that she only thinks of me as a long-time dear friend." Not anymore, Eric.

Brooke: Oh, Eric."

Eric: "Don't roll your eyes at me."

Brooke: "You are pitifully out of practice if you don't think women notice you or appreciate you."

Eric: "Brooke, I don't believe for one second that Katie would harbor unsuitable intentions towards a married man." Oh, Eric, you are so clueless. He should be well-aware that not only did she harbor unsuitable intentions towards another married man (her niece's husband) and a thisclosetobeingmarried man (her sister's fiance), she ACTED on them.

Brooke: "Yeah, I don't think she would, but... if you could just read between the lines." I don't think she would? Brooke? Are you an idiot? Rhetorical question. She did this already to you and to Bridget. Oh, but because it's your nemesis Quinn, it's suddenly okay and now you're dangling Katie in front of him.

Eric: "Between the lines?"

Brooke: "Quinn. Your wife. You love your wife, right?" So shut up with this Katie nonsense right now, Brooke.

Eric: "Yes. I do. I love my wife."

Brooke: "And you think she's changed."

Eric: "I do. She has. I see it every day."

Brooke, sighing like she's talking to a three-year-old. How condescending. "Well, that's lovely of you, Eric. I mean, a lot of us don't believe that, but we want you to be happy so we hold our tongues. All I'm saying is... if you think you only have two options, Quinn or loneliness, think again." OMFG, so she is officially pimping out her baby sister??? 

Quinn, just outside, is gutted, remembering back to when she saw Katie kiss Eric and their confrontation afterwards. 

Eric gives Brooke an out, telling her she must still be suffering from jet lag and to go home and rest.

He shows her out, telling her "Good night, sweetie" and she tells him "Don't forget what I said."

The door closes and Brooke turns to walk to her car when she spots Quinn, standing there.

Quinn, in no uncertain terms, tells her, "Tell your sister I'll be watching her."

Brooke looks stunned and scared...and she should be although that's what she gets for poking her nose (and her sister's by proxy) where it doesn't belong.

Edited February 10, 2017 by CountryGirl

[AussieBabe]

Hello lovelies. I've missed this forum. It's good to be back. Welp, the cast arriving at Sydney Airport yesterday makes sense now. I guess we'll get another Puffles and Waffles wedding in Australia. Joy. Joy. Deep down in my happy soul. *insert hard eye roll* I'll just be tuned in for the scenery. Bless their hearts. It's hot as all hell in Sydney these days. Heatwave is real. 

Zende and Nicole. *hard eye roll #2* Still don't care about them. Where is FC? She was filming a couple of weeks ago, so I'll be happy to see her back on the screen.

Sally 2.0 is growing on me. Then again, I'm just happy to see a new face who isn't related to F-family. I'm feeling her and Thomas. I guess him and Caroline have decided to just co-parent? Is Lindsey Godfrey still on the show? I'm still mad they abruptly ended Sasha and Thomas for no reason. She really does remind me of Gina Tognoni. Hopefully the writers will stop with the OTT antics and quirky moments.

I see nothing has changed. Badly fitting outfits, bad weaves/extensions, terrible hair colours, and more fillers, botox, and lip injections. 

Back to reading posts!

[sugarbaker design]

There was a major catastrophe in my area on Thursday (it snowed) so B&B did not air, am I going to miss this episode or did it air today?

[Cupid Stunt]

17 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

Brooke plays coy, almost teasing Katie about Eric; at the same time it is pretty clear she doesn't approve. Then she beelines straight to the Forrester Mansion to pimp her sister out to a man who is old enough to be her grandfather? The father of two of her children? Not only that, but a man who has been involved with every female in her family except Katie?

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What is wrong with Brooke? Because that was just some shit. I mean, absolute nonsense. Just. Too. Stupid. For. Words.

It does link up with Brooke and Katie's earlier alliance to get rid of Quinn on their own (Katie lurking in the bushes recording Quinn allegedly threatening Liam). There's a sort-of sense behind Brooke stopping by Eric's to fluff up his ego and tout the secret lunches he and Katie had been sharing as preamble to him finally dumping Quinn.

Katie occupied with Eric accommodates Brooke's guilt and narcissism from deliberately blowing up Katie and $Bill's marriage. Brooke's hedging her bets with $Bill waiting in the wings, in case her engagement to Ridge goes sour -- And when Ridge fucks up, Brooke will jump on The Stallion noblesse oblige -- no guilt, no encumbrances, no worries. The only people that will have issues with Brooke taking riding lessons are Ridge and RJ, and one is a faithless asshat and the other she barely thinks about -- Yup, no worries.

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 And now, and this is what will really pull my trigger, is that any reaction Quinn has will mean she has reverted to her old ways. Let me tell you, if that had been me that overheard that ish? Oh, I am not so sure Brooke would have remained on her feet. She would have either been knocked on her ass by my fist, or by my words after I putt her on full blast, and told her all about her indecent self. What a lousy, disgusting, and wholly inappropriate thing to do. Quinn has every right to be angry; not at Katie, but at Brooke.

Quinn should be angry with Eric, Brooke and Katie.

I would have grabbed Brooke by those fried beachy waves, dragged her back in the house and demanded Eric explain why he's didn't shut down Brooke's proposition to dump his marriage to me to pursue Katie, why it's appropriate behavior he's having lunches with the insidious, grasping, interfering Katie, and why I shouldn't be mad as a wet cat in a bag.

Let me guess; this conversation with Brooke was a harmless joke, and the innocent lunches (plural) with Katie were to advise her with her idle business pursuits. I'm paranoid that two women with a long personal history with you, hate me enough to purposely manipulate my husband to compromise his marriage, and I shouldn't be concerned I will suddenly be out in the cold. I would like to pose a question, and ask how you would feel were I entertaining a suspect man for "secret" lunches to chat about his specious business opportunities, or joke around with a "best friend" about breaking my marriage vows?

You would be offended. You would be hurt. You would be angry. Welcome to my world.

You either defend me and our marriage to those whose only purpose it to tear me and our marriage apart, or continue to pretend their bad intentions are benign.

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So Katie has a crush on Eric? Take it as a compliment and roll. Eric doesn't reciprocate, and I think he would shut Katie down if she tried something. But for Brooke to come into your home, and lay some stuff like that on your husband? Yeah, Quinn should be well and truly pissed. But again, anything she says will be seen as a threat, when anger and suspicion would be seen as normal from anyone else. Katie is already telling people that Quinn has threatened her, but she hasn't disclosed why Quinn was upset. She never tells them that she has been asked multiple times to stop just dropping in. Now we find out that she has been having secret lunches with Eric. That is going to really fire Quinn up because Eric hasn't mentioned it.

But Eric is reciprocating. He's flattered to have a pretty woman asking for his advice over multiple leisurely lunches. He chuckled when Brooke pointed out he was an attractive man entertaining Katie without Quinn around, and who could blame him. It would be easy to point out that Eric is being disrespectful to Quinn, having met with Katie at the mansion several times and was having multiple "secret" lunches with a woman Quinn finds deliberately intrusive and plotting plots against her. This isn't the first time Eric deliberately ignored Quinn's apprehension with Katie swanning around the mansion, and now he's having "secret" lunches with her? Really? This isn't a test or a set up for Quinn to retaliate -- Well, it worked, Quinn's bent.

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And it is clear that Katie is enjoying herself; funny how she didn't like it when she was losing Bill to Brooke. I really can't believe I am going to say this, but I hope that Ridge comes to Quinn's defense. I hope that is what breaks up this Bridge reunion. I hope he see's Brooke and Katie's actions as those of mean girls ganging up on the outsider. And I hope that he is just as grossed out as I am that Brooke would suggest such a thing to Eric. Would that spell the end of Eric and Quinn? I hope not, but my opinion is they have been doomed ever since Katie became their neighbor and Quinn and Ridge "discovered" each other.

Of, course Katie's enjoying herself. Pleasant lunches with a handsome, attentive, older, married man. Souring the marriage of a woman she detests. Gathering joy by poisoning a relationship the way her marriage was poisoned by her sister and ex-husband. For a Jonah like Katie, this is going to Disneyland with unlimited E tickets, a day at a shiatsu spa, and a dream come true -- Heaven.

I doubt Ridge will defend Quinn. TK Ridge is a coward under all the threats, plots, bluster, lies and grunting. Doing so would expose his feelz (whatever they are) and how he came to his 180 degree change in attitude about Quinn, putting his 2-headed CEO position in jeopardy and ending his engagement with Brooke. Ridge wants Brooke, warts and all; she was in on his plotting against Eric's wedding and the fashion show. What's a little Brooke and Katie conniving against Eric and Quinn this go-round? Ridge has his own ass and ambitions to protect.

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Darlita? Oh Dear, this is the first chinch in the armor for me. It isn't the actress; I caught a good vibe between her and Sally, but that name? Really? I agree with others that it should have been Darlene. Much more fitting. For the life of me though, I don't see Thomas or Rick fitting in here. Rick is far too uptight and serious for this crew, and I think Thomas's breeeeeeeeeding would eventually kick in and kill the honeymoon. Wyatt however, would be a good fit.

TIIC couldn't call the receptionist Carla? -- It's lazy, stupid minutia like this that makes me hate Show.

I don't understand why TIIC are writing Sally2 a one-note LOUD TAP DANCING AS FAST AS SHE CAN TIRMUSU-THROWING ARM-TWISTING HARRIDAN. There's no beginning, middle build up, and exploding end with this character. It's all at one break-neck speed, clashing patterns and prints, shouting at the top of her lungs, windmilling arms, and scaring the horses. I don't remember Darlene Conley playing Sally Spectra like a unrelenting car alarm no one can shut off. 

TIIC have paired up Thomas and Sally2 as a thing. They are intrigued and amused with each other. He loves that Sally2 gave Steffy the pie-in-the-face treatment and brilliantly used Steffy's social media presence to do it. I like how Sally2 dresses him down and he agrees with her assessment. It's interesting, but I'm not certain how well Thomas would be able to acculturate himself in a bare-bones no money operation like Spectra Fashions is at this point; perhaps after they get their business footing (with his designing assistance).

Rick isn't leaving Forrester Creations when the company is still in flux (the two-headed CEO is a problem looking for an anvil to flatten it), and there could be a higher office he could walk into. Thomas is going to continue grinding ugly about being passed over as CEO when he has no qualifications for the position; he might join Spectra for awhile or from a distance, but he'll be lured back because he's ambitious to prove himself at FC. Wyatt could be an interesting add-on for Spectra, but $Bill has plans for the Spectra property and would use Wyatt for information to stab the Spectra crew in the back -- Wyatt did it to get dirt on Maya, and very little has changed with Wyatt's personal ethics. 

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Best line of the day:

Thomas "You want a Cappuccino with that?"

Steffy trying to scrinch her face into a frown was hilarious.

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[Cupid Stunt]

 

So is the Australian Wedding Extravaganza going to turn into a Unification Church mass wedding? Oh, thank you, for joining me in holy matrimony to a total stranger, my all-knowing Korean Godhead and Master!

Liam and Steffy, Ridge and Brooke, with Zende and Nicole bringing up the dull.

Why stop there? Have Rick and Maya, Julius and Vivienne, and Eric and Quinn renew their vows! While Katie, RJ and Wyatt can leave the salad dressing out in the sun and give everyone food poisoning at the wedding dinner.

It's so much fun to travel out of the U.S.!

[Waldo13]

Please ride off into the sunset and keep on going. What a load of shit. Their costumes were absolutely ridiculous. In Maya's portrait she looks like a 19th century madam and now Nicole looks like a 19th century hooker.  Zende looked like Dorian Grey ala Penny Dreadful.   

Why are Thomas and Ridge so irresistible?  Ridge gets Quinn to kiss him even though she knows he's playing her, gets Brooke to come back to him over and over again, and Caroline to forget the smell of other woman.  Thomas seduces young interns, gets Ivy to cheat on Wyatt, gets Caroline to leave Ridge after a night of forced sex, and rendering Sally speechless with a kiss.  Personally, I just don't see it but who am I to second guess TPTB.  

Since Wyatt resigned why doesn't Steffy give Liam a job.  He can do nothing for FC just as good as he could do nothing for SP. Make him the Official FC Black Hole.  Or give him an assignment to see who makes the best waffles IHOP, Waffle House, or Eggo. 

Edited February 10, 2017 by Waldo13

[Anna Yolei]

Eric's obliviousness is one of the very few consistently written character traits on this show. I've sat through him blowing off Brooke's concerns with Stephanie, Stephanie's concerns about Brooke, Donna's concerns about Pam and every klaxon, warning sign and emergency light surrounding Sheila.In only one of those instances was Eric being drugged with aphrodisiacs to forget common sense.

59 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Brooke's hedging her bets with $Bill waiting in the wings, in case her engagement to Ridge goes sour -- And when Ridge fucks up, Brooke will jump on The Stallion noblesse oblige -- no guilt, no encumbrances, no worries.

That idiotic mentality was the last nail in the Brooke/Nick coffin back in the day, too. Regardless of his Rick level insanity at the end of their marriage, he was absolutely right to shut her ass down when she so arrogantly assumed he'd still be waiting for her.

Ugh. Where are Bill's brass ones in this situation? I don't mind that they're apparently endgame but that doesn't require him bending over backwards. Even spineless Liam has had moments to call out both Hope and Steffy on their treatment of their respective relationships that didn't make him come off as a douche, so why not here? Can there be any subtlety on Show?

Speaking of that rhetorical question, can we stop cribbing EVERYTHING from original recipe Spectra? I saw Sally 2.0 with a hairdo much like original Sally's giant tresses, and....no. Not because it wasn't flattering (definitely moreso than the pincurls were) but because I want to see what's DIFFERENT about this Spectra gang than the old one.

This is less like a Star War Ep. 7 nod to nostalgia and more like what I sat through for Star Trek into Darkness that cribbed from all the key scenes of The Wrath of Khan with no understanding of what made scenes like Spock's sacrifice  (and the KHAAAAAAAAN! meme you may have seen floating about online) so impactful. And if CH had some less than strong acting chops I'd understand it, but they've gone through some effort to get a decent actress in this role, so why not trust her to made this character her own?

[jenrising]

It really cuts into the romance of whatever that Zende proposal mess was when the scene before is a reminder that he banged her sister just because Nicole was planning to do something he didn't want her to.

I mean, inasmuch as you can cut into the romance of this useless pair. Maybe the horse will confuse Nicole's terrible wig with its mate and run far, far away with her and Zzzzzende.

[Gam2]

Between Nicole's ridiculous wig and Zende's ridiculous top hat that made his ears stick out, this was true comedy today. Unintended, I'm sure but comedy nevertheless.

[lencidoll]

Uhh...,.so, what happened to Caroline and her baby? Did Sasha just disappear? How long before Thomas is head designer at Spectra and maybe Sasha models for them? These new Spectras sure are campy. New Sally makes me think on recast Phyllis on Y&R.

[Gam2]

Yeah, what did happen to Caroline and her/Thomas's baby? This show just kills me with their short memory.

[thewhiteowl]

I don't enjoy campy humor. A little is okay but this show does not do little. I didn't enjoy the first Spectra bunch so not likely to enjoy a bad imitation. Speaking of bad imitation is Sally junior channeling *Michelle Stafford or what? Aggressive and flailing arms, not a good thing, All she needs is the repeating of lines and the "bucko' thing is already there for the full Stafford, Blech.

* Michelle played Phyllis on Y&R and is now stinking up GH.

[tricknasty]

I see Slouchy is still around. Not sure which was uglier Puffy's bouffant or Nicole's terrible wig that brought out her five-head. So it was a fake-out photo shoot? He intentionally wanted her dressed as a prostitute for his proposal?

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Since Wyatt resigned why doesn't Steffy give Liam a job.  He can do nothing for FC just as good as he could do nothing for SP. Make him the Official FC Black Hole.  Or give him an assignment to see who makes the best waffles IHOP, Waffle House, or Eggo

Forced cannibalism is one of those things that HR frown upon. More importantly, it's bad PR :p

I can't say I blame Steffy for not hiring his ass. Having to hear his whining at home *and work is a measure of torture that even our cheeto overlord would say is too much. 

1 hour ago, lencidoll said:

Uhh...,.so, what happened to Caroline and her baby? Did Sasha just disappear? How long before Thomas is head designer at Spectra and maybe Sasha models for them? These new Spectras sure are campy. New Sally makes me think on recast Phyllis on Y&R.

NuSally bothers to learn her lines before coming on set, so she ain't full Stafford yet.

[ByaNose]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Forced cannibalism is one of those things that HR frown upon. More importantly, it's bad PR :p

I can't say I blame Steffy for not hiring his ass. Having to hear his whining at home *and work is a measure of torture that even our cheeto overlord would say is too much. 

NuSally bothers to learn her lines before coming on set, so she ain't full Stafford yet.

I hadn't picked up on the GT on Y&R is having line memory issues. I'll have to play closer attention.

So, Thomas is all up in Ridge's grill about Caroline & "his baby" but then Peirson Fode goes away to make a movie and the his whole storyline is totally dropped for nuSally when he returns?! I guess Brad Bell has moved on from Linsey Godfrey. Then there is Nicole looking like Princess Leia in her white Forrester robe getting dressed for the Christmas storeroom window at Macy's in front of CBS Television City with Zende in tow. OMG! Kill me now. Are her parents even in California? Did Sasha move? 

[Anna Yolei]

@ByaNose , that was my bad. For some reason, I read that as being about MS, since another poster mentioned her upthread. Never mind :p

I'm beyond glad TIIC have stopped trying to make Caroline/Thomas work. They didn't work when Adam Gregory was in the role and certainly won't work after The Mistunderstanding (tm). This isn't 1989 where the audience will grit their teeth and bear the revisionist history for Ridge, seriously Bell WTF gladly go with the flow or Days of our Lives, which has a knack for writing the redemption story required for this and TPTB won't kill off another one of Taylor's children. So it's either put him on the shelf or move past it.

I will miss LG, however, but I am far more pissed about the split of Tasha than anything involving Caroline II.

Edited February 11, 2017 by Anna Yolei

[grisgris]

Frankly, I was weary of Caroline starting right after she and Rick split up. I found her and Ridge quite repulsive as a couple, so I don't quite get why people are having such a strong negative reaction to the (you know it's coming) Eric/Katie pairing. It's the same difference to me.  But anyway, I found the WTD drama with Thomas and Ridge overdone and just made me detest Ridge all the more.  Caroline's googly-choo-chi-coo scenes with the baby were cute, but adios. Unless TIIC were going to make a family unit with those two and Thomas, there was no point in having them stick around.

Sasha, OTOH, had a lot more potential for SL beyond causing angst for ZZZZZendcole.  I really liked her with Thomas.  She was also a good actress and you could just tell she had a lot of potential. I could see her working for Sally and becoming good friends and the two of them could go up against Steffy and Maya.

Thally might be interesting. They had some initial chemistry, but I think that's more because the actress playing Sally has some actual talent. On that note, yes, her overly theatrical behavior is starting to grate a bit.  Darlene Conley had a theatre background, so that is partially why she delivered her lines with such exaggeration. Joseph Mascolo (Massimo) came across in the same manner.  I also used to be able to always tell when John McCook returned from a summer stock hiatus because it was the same way.

That ugly garb that Nicole was forced into was ridiculous, as well as Snoozer in the top hat and tails. Ha! Ha! I thought of ZZ Top's "Sharp Dressed Man," when he rolled up in that carriage. They both looked like rejected extras call for an episode of "Timeless."

[Anna Yolei]

51 minutes ago, grisgris said:

I found her and Ridge quite repulsive as a couple, so I don't quite get why people are having such a strong negative reaction to the (you know it's coming) Eric/Katie pairing.

FWIW, I was never much on the CaRidge 2.0 train, not even in the "At least Bridge is finally dead" sense. I couldn't push that history with Caroline out of mind, not even with Ridge being played by a different actor.

The age different doesn't bug me nearly as much with Eric/Katie as much as her Nosy Parker routine, her entitled attitude about going after a married man when the wife has told her to call before coming over, and the squickiness of Eric's history with the entire Logan family. Eric *would* have been her father in all likelihood if not for Stephanie's manipulation. 

And grated, that last bit was just as true for her sisters, but at least this was addressed head on with Beth when Brooke was pregnant with Rick. The bigger issue with Donna was her very recent stunt to marry Thorne out of spite but even there, you had Stephen pointing out he wuz wobbed Eric had taken his family from him.

[thewhiteowl]

I don't like it but I'm used to the incestuous squickiness  of B&B relationships and I did catch some chemistry between Eric and Katie back when Ridge was helicopter'd into amnesia. I would *not* mind  them hooking up. Quinn getting all enraged while she's fantasizing about Ridge? She can miss me with that crap.

[Artsda]

Zende and Nicole seems like they spent more time apart than together. Have they even discussed what will happen the next time she carries Maya's baby? If they actually get through the wedding then that is basically shipping them out because they have no plot.

[ByaNose]

I saw on KKL twitter that they start filming on Monday for the Australia location shoot. They all flew over first class courtesy of Quantas. You have to give Brad Bell props. He really does work with others to expand the show. They are the only soap who goes on location. Hopefully, they'll lose or forget Liam & Steffy when they return. 

Random note. John McCook is 72 years old. Hard to believe he was 42 when the show started and he had to put gray in his hair to look older. He looks pretty good now but he was amazing looking then. 

[Anna Yolei]

IKR? And Stephanie was still within her child-bearing years when the show began. Man, that's crazy!

im glad the show is going all out for the anniversary. The last time the show was in Aus ten years ago, it was some idiotic plot that mostly propped Rick/Phoebe and ended with Brooke hopping the next plane out of Sydney to chase Nick again.

ETA: the one appearance I would've liked for this anniversary special would be Hunter Tylo. Besides being Steffy's mom, she's been a big part of the show's history, for better or worse. I don't think she's ever interacted with Thorsten Kaye!Ridge. It would have been....interesting.

Edited February 12, 2017 by Anna Yolei

[AussieBabe]

5 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I saw on KKL twitter that they start filming on Monday for the Australia location shoot. They all flew over first class courtesy of Quantas. You have to give Brad Bell props. He really does work with others to expand the show. They are the only soap who goes on location. Hopefully, they'll lose or forget Liam & Steffy when they return. 

Random note. John McCook is 72 years old. Hard to believe he was 42 when the show started and he had to put gray in his hair to look older. He looks pretty good now but he was amazing looking then. 

They held a Q&A/fan chat with the cast and Brad Bell today. Nu-Sally [Courtney Hope] was on stage with them--sitting next to Pierson Fode. I wonder how or if she's going to fit into the storyline Down Under. How lucky of her to be chosen to go on a location shoot as a newbie, and the first time we saw her on screen was 2nd February or so?) Ash Brewer was also there. I'm mad that they brought her back to utilise her for a collective total of 30 minutes the past six months. I'm definitely glad that she's stopped with the forced American accent and the SWF storyline. I much prefer her just being herself.

If we're lucky, Liam and Steffy will decide to stay Down Under and off our screens. They can take Zende and Nicole with them, too.

ETA/Sidenote: I've found the culprit for KKL's hair colour. He re-did her colour just before she left for Australia. That pale blonde is his specialty. 

Edited February 12, 2017 by AussieBabe

[ByaNose]

Courtney Hope (nuSally) has really move up fast on the food chain. I don't think she & PF were even mentioned in the Orin gal press release. That may have been due to her not even airing yet. I guess Brad Bell saw something and is running with it. I also see that HT is there and I don't think she was announced previously. I'm not sure how Katie fits in. Will she be the spoiler for Eric & Quinn? Will she end up with Bill? Will she finally admit her feelings for Liam? This is one of the biggest cast for an on location shoot. They are gearing up for the 30th Anniversary in a big way. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do. I've always been a sucker for a on location shoot for B&B. Even, when they go to Brad Bell's place in Aspen it's a treat. It's nice to be Brad Bell. LOL!!

[RuntheTable]

What ever happened to dating? Romancing? Good old fashioned courtship? Why is it that everyone on Show has to get married before they are 21? Making matters worse is that just a few weeks ago Nicole was done with Zende, but now, because he said the right things and put together this romantic proposal, you are ok with it? I would suppose Maya being involved, and her words about getting past it played a part, but this feels phony and forced. Also, as an animal advocate, I detest the whole horse drawn carriage thing.

And it looks like Sasha will be returning too. I wish I could get all giddy over it, but my money says she will be brought back to be talked down to by Maya and Nicole. I'm sure we will get to see each of them extolling on Zende and Nicole's deep love and commitment, and how her attempts to break them up failed. Then of course, we will watch as Sasha tries to hide her feelings from Zende, as he tells her he is so, so, sorry. I am already compiling a nice stack of bricks to use when the shit gets too fucking deep.

Thomas kissed Sally; man, that was quick! And it worked for me. Would it be too much to ask to bring Wyatt and Sasha on board too? Wyatt could be their PR guy, heck, they really wouldn't even have to pay him or Thomas. Sasha could be the company model, and her and Wyatt could notice each other. I would love to see Fauxdilok's deal with that reality, and also, that it wasn't her driving all those likes and shares, but Wyatt's skills.

Rhutt Rho:

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_bold_and_the_beautiful/video/hehj7mDTYG1iLSyntOEHEBgNgZI5DKvC/it-s-a-fairy-tale-wedding-on-the-bold-and-the-beautiful/

Edited February 12, 2017 by RuntheTable

[Cupid Stunt]

On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 3:35 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Eric's obliviousness is one of the very few consistently written character traits on this show. I've sat through him blowing off Brooke's concerns with Stephanie, Stephanie's concerns about Brooke, Donna's concerns about Pam and every klaxon, warning sign and emergency light surrounding Sheila.In only one of those instances was Eric being drugged with aphrodisiacs to forget common sense.

A month ago, when Eric was righteously defending Quinn and his leadership of FC against all the family's plots, insults and attacks, I hoped this would be a sea change in Eric's fall-back behavior in dream-state obliviousness to a pretty face dolling out compliments and stroking his ego.

Wrong again, Cupid. Brad repeating heavily-trod Bill Bell SLs will never change.

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     On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 2:08 PM, Cupid Stunt said:

Brooke's hedging her bets with $Bill waiting in the wings, in case her engagement to Ridge goes sour -- And when Ridge fucks up, Brooke will jump on The Stallion noblesse oblige -- no guilt, no encumbrances, no worries.

On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 3:35 PM, Anna Yolei said:

That idiotic mentality was the last nail in the Brooke/Nick coffin back in the day, too. Regardless of his Rick level insanity at the end of their marriage, he was absolutely right to shut her ass down when she so arrogantly assumed he'd still be waiting for her.

Ugh. Where are Bill's brass ones in this situation? I don't mind that they're apparently endgame but that doesn't require him bending over backwards. Even spineless Liam has had moments to call out both Hope and Steffy on their treatment of their respective relationships that didn't make him come off as a douche, so why not here? Can there be any subtlety on Show?

 

Nick was entirely within his right mind when he realized Brooke was using him to push Ridge, and visa versa. At this point $Bill says he's there to catch Brooke when Ridge goes Ka-blooey, he's really will be Brooke's second choice, a stand-in for DESTINY!

$Bill is still reciting purple prose, painting idyllic pictures, making florid promises and crawling on his belly to get Brooke back. He's believes winning her will make him the victor over the naysayers, and his dubious charms will hold her. He pontificates about Ridge's unfaithful history, but ignores that Brooke has no history of probity or fidelity to anyone -- Loyalty or allegiance to family, her children, her lovers or husbands, the company she worked for isn't in her makeup. She has gone wherever one feelz or another lead her, and has trail of damage for her legacy.  

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Speaking of that rhetorical question, can we stop cribbing EVERYTHING from original recipe Spectra? I saw Sally 2.0 with a hairdo much like original Sally's giant tresses, and....no. Not because it wasn't flattering (definitely moreso than the pincurls were) but because I want to see what's DIFFERENT about this Spectra gang than the old one.

This is less like a Star War Ep. 7 nod to nostalgia and more like what I sat through for Star Trek into Darkness that cribbed from all the key scenes of The Wrath of Khan with no understanding of what made scenes like Spock's sacrifice  (and the KHAAAAAAAAN! meme you may have seen floating about online) so impactful. And if CH had some less than strong acting chops I'd understand it, but they've gone through some effort to get a decent actress in this role, so why not trust her to made this character her own?

Nope. Little Bradley is an opponent of originality.

In the hands of TIIC, the Spectra Fashions 2.0 redux rewind rehash is looking more and more like a Star Trek transporter accident.

It's too bad. I like Sally2 when she's assessing situations and cooking up schemes, not blindly howling at the people working with her. I like Saul2 and Shirley -- Is that Patrika Darbo? Darlita is doing a first script read-through on camera -- Someone make it stop or make it better.

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[Cupid Stunt]

On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 6:50 PM, thewhiteowl said:

I don't enjoy campy humor. A little is okay but this show does not do little.

"Dying is easy. Comedy is hard" -- Or some quote like that by the actor Edmund Gwenn

[Anna Yolei]

13 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

In the hands of TIIC, the Spectra Fashions 2.0 redux rewind rehash is looking more and more like a Star Trek transporter accident.

So will Captain Janeway come in during May sweeps to split the rehash from the originality?

(Hats off to any Voyager fan who sat through the whole series and gets that reference!)

3 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

And it looks like Sasha will be returning too. I wish I could get all giddy over it, but my money says she will be brought back to be talked down to by Maya and Nicole. I'm sure we will get to see them each extolling on Zende and Nicole's deep love and commitment, and how her attempts to break them failed. Then of course, we will watch as Sasha tries to hide her feelings from Zende, as he tells her he is so, so, sorry. I am already compiling a nice stack of bricks to use when the shit gets too fucking deep.

Good grief. They couldn't let Sasha go out with an ounce of dignity, could they? ?? 

On the upside of this, this is one of two weddings in the last five years that is actually involving the entire cast....and I do mean the entire cast, including the Spectras going off that clip. For anyone not familiar with their history I won't spoil it but the veterans and YouTubers can probably guess where this is headed to. Because of course it is. 

[ByaNose]

Another wedding that Carter is officiating. It's too bad he never gets invited to the Forester Thanksgiving dinners. You know the one where they sit at the long table and whispers sweet nothings to each other. 

[AussieBabe]

Bloody hell. They are already getting married? What in the whole hell?! I'm rooting for the snooze fest that is their nuptials because just maybe they'll be moved to the back burner and off our screens. I'm just happy because Kristen and Tony are finally going to be back. Some part of me is hoping for a plot twist like a heavily pregnant Sasha showing up. No wedding on Bold goes off without a hitch.

And where are they going to live? With Brooke or in Grandpa's guest house? 

Edited February 13, 2017 by AussieBabe

[grisgris]

AussieBabe, do tell who did KKL's hair?

Also, last Friday ... was Slouchy part of the pep squad giving Zende relationship advice? Is he even old enough to go on a date?

Kristen and Tony should have arrived months ago to have a talk with their spoiled sullen selfish spawn. Yeah, where will they live? Also, I guess this is a rhetorical question, but how are they going to support themselves? (I know. Insert laugh!) Aren't they still both interns? Last I heard, that's not a very lucrative paying position (if at all) and is supposed to be temporary.  Or did I miss something and they got hired as full-time employees. I know that Zende likes to dabble in photography and wasn't Nicole acting as Wyatt's flunky?

This wedding is going to be dreadful. I can tell already. PLEASE let those two just repeat the traditional vows.  I don't think I can stomach listening to them attempt to recite something they tried to write themselves.  I am not convinced that between the two of them they have the brain power, emotional depth or bond of shared experiences (what, two kitchen dates?) to craft anything meaningful.  Silly playful vows like Steffy and Wyatt exchanged at their beach wedding would be apropos, but you know these two are going to be deadly boring serious.

[ByaNose]

Exactly, how long was the Zende & Nicole love storyline? When did they show up? I know soaps have to move faster now but they should have gone on for a another year or two before a big wedding. 

[hypnotoad]

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Exactly, how long was the Zende & Nicole love storyline?

I'm not aware that we have seen one yet!

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Exactly, how long was the Zende & Nicole love storyline? When did they show up? I know soaps have to move faster now but they should have gone on for a another year or two before a big wedding. 

Zende showed up early last year, IIRC...which holy hell, for as boring as he is, it feels like way longer than that. Whatever. Get rid of them both so TIIC CPcan have money for nuDarla's salary.

[ByaNose]

2 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

I'm not aware that we have seen one yet!

Too funny! It wasn't even a good teen on the run love story. Man! In the old days they would go on the run during the summer and you'd root for them. With these two you wish they just ran away and never came back. 

[tricknasty]

And we still don't know how old Nicole is supposed to be. She arrived scheming and knocking back margaritas with Chickenhead. Then carried the Raya spawn and people on here called her a virgin. Who knows? The hacks writing this shit sure don't.

[Anna Yolei]

10 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Too funny! It wasn't even a good teen on the run love story. Man! In the old days they would go on the run during the summer and you'd root for them. With these two you wish they just ran away and never came back. 

That's actually the one trope B&B has never done that I'm aware of (unless Jessica Forrester or one of the manufactured teen scene lot had something similar). Brad Bell didn't seem all that interested in writing for the younger set until he had no other choice, and then we got two years of nonstop Hope/Waffles/Puffy.

[TobinAlbers]

10 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Zende showed up early last year, IIRC...which holy hell, for as boring as he is, it feels like way longer than that. Whatever. Get rid of them both so TIIC CPcan have money for nuDarla's salary.

According to this Rome Flynn started June 29, 2015. Reign started January 16, 2015. Felisha Cooper started Dec 2015.

Lizzy was born May 2016 which means Nicole had to conceive around Sept/Oct 2015.

Zende and Nicole broke up the first time in Feb 2015.

So that means Zende and Nicole were dating for about two months (July, August) before she got pregnant and five months after so 7 months in their first run (but with her pregnant for 5 of those months with his uncle's kid)

They reunited in May 2016 at Lizzie's birth.  October 2016 Rick and Maya asked for another kid. So that's about 5 months of Zencole during which they finally had their first time together at the rodeo.

Then he bailed from mid-October 2016 through February 2017 (3.5 months-ish) after which he asked her to marry him and she said yes.

So... 12 months total of a relationship out of the 20 months Zende has been on air with about half of that with her being pregnant and them rarely on the same page.

::Shakes head::