B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[NinjaPenguins]

Man, Ridge, that ain’t it. What an ugly, uncomfortable ending. Gross. 

[kitmerlot1213]

10 hours ago, Artsda said:

Carter isn't wrong they are dysfunctional. 

Ridge should have been punched. Even Justin looked horrified. Eric and all his family patriarch is ok with Ridge talking to her like that? 

As much as I'd enjoy Carter punching out Ridge, what I need is for Brooke to completely lose it on Ridge and for Eric to side with her.  We all know Steffy's just nodding her head in agreement but I'd love for her to have her own realization that she'd never want Kelly or Beth to be called a bitch and she'd then tell of her dad too.  

But Brooke, Hope and Eric telling off Ridge and Steffy would be cool too and a bonus of Ridge getting punched out :):)

 

[Anna Yolei]

On 12/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Why was Bill’s childhood supposedly so similar to Luna’s??!

It's been forgotten by time, but Bill Jr was the forgotten bastard son of Bill Sr who to my recollection was left out of living in the lap of luxury until the old man croaked and left him the business w the caveat of taking Eric down because Bill Sr lived Stephanie. Or something.

It was a quick thrown together excuse to give Don Diamont a job after Brad's sister-in-law killed his character on Y&R and frankly, their loss was our gain.

On 12/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, Foghorn Leghorn said:

 

 

On 12/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, Foghorn Leghorn said:

 

 

Edited December 12 by Anna Yolei

[RuntheTable]

Ruh Roh

And just like that Brooke was invisible. Ridge was like an angry bull seeing red, focused on releasing the pent up bile he has always carried for Hope, Brooke’s feeble pleas be damned. This is the perfect time for a full on Forrester, Marone, and Logan free for all, we are only missing Taylor to round out the cast. Instead, it looks like we will have Carter stepping up in defense of Hope, and once again I am pissed off. Let Hope stand up for herself, she is the one with the issues, I don’t want to watch her stand behind Carter. Talk about misogynistic writing; the little woman must let her big, brawny man defend her because she is just too dainty and delicate. UGH!

This SL was supposed to be a bone to Hope supporters? It’s my opinion that Hope looks much worse than Steffy in this situation. Steffy fired Hope on what she saw; Hope could have fixed that, but she chose to remain silent. Regardless of why Steffy did it, she is at least owning it and hasn’t backed down and hasn’t hid behind anybody else. Hope OTOH, kinda played Carter. Once she found out about the LLC thing, she encouraged him to do it for himself, all the while knowing what it would mean for her. She also wanted to see Steffy brought down, and this way she could be in the kitchen and not feel the heat. I don’t think she counted on Ridge blaming her, which shows a crushing level of naivete. So, now she will stand there like a deer caught in headlights while Carter defends her. I take a hard, hard, pass on all of it.

And since I am pissed off again, let me continue to the next topic. How is Forrester Creations Ridge and Steffy’s legacy? How about all those other children who have contributed. You remember them, don’t you Eric? Those bio kids of yours? Thorne, Felica, Kristen, Rick and Bridget? Eric can also miss me with all this wha whaaing about Carter and Quinn. Outside of the fact that you green lighted them to continue, is the fact that you have been a womanizer your whole life. You fell in and out of love with woman quicker than you changed your drawers. Beth, Brooke, Sheila, Lauren, all in very quick succession, always keeping Stephanie at arm’s length until you wanted to complain about your current wife.

If Ridge and Steffy want this to fail, then all they have to do is resign. Steffy would be no big loss, but without a designer you can’t run a design house. I seriously doubt that Thomas would join forces, so that would leave Zende and RJ. I guess they could always bring back Sally!!!!!

Edited December 11 by RuntheTable

[norcalgal]

1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

How is Forrester Creations Ridge and Steffy’s legacy? How about all those other children who have contributed. You remember them, don’t you Eric? Those bio kids of yours? Thorne, Felica, Kristen, Rick and Bridget?

Out of sight, out of mind - at least with the writers, and they’re hoping viewers also forget those bio Forresters exist too! 

[CountryGirl]

There are no words for the ugliness of yesterday's episode. Fridge's misogyny knows no bounds.

Brooke, are you listening???

For once in your life, stand up for your flesh and blood. If you don't do anything but gawp and make noises to Fridge, then I no longer have an effs to give you. I hope he adds insult to injury by reuniting with Drowned Beige Meerkat.

I hope Hope lets him have it with both barrels.

Like she did with Flo.

Fridge, BTW, is my nickname for TK's Ridge that I thought I had retired but the contrast between Ronn's Ridge and TK's and it's more than just the writing speaks for itself.

[backhometome]

Boo hoo, Hope. What did you think was going to happen. 

So, Brooke waits till they are alone to call Ridge out on his attack of Hope. 

Carter/Hope are gross as couple. Nothing is sexy about them. The background music tries too hard with them.

[TVForever]

Hmm. Someone please explain Brooke's actions to me. Because how does Ridge call her daughter a "nasty little bitch" and continue to live? How did she not go straight for his throat?

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, backhometome said:

Boo hoo, Hope. What did you think was going to happen. 

So, Brooke waits till they are alone to call Ridge out on his attack of Hope. 

Carter/Hope are gross as couple. Nothing is sexy about them. The background music tries too hard with them.

I am certain she didn't think Fridge would be thrilled but she did not deserve to be called a "nasty little bitch." That is not okay. 

Especially as Hope isn't the one who is responsible for any of this. This is on Carter and also on the co-CEOs for not really reading or questioning what they were signing. 

Putting the blame on Hope removes her agency and that of Carter. Which is another gross heaping helping of misogyny. Because grown-ass man Carter couldn't have possibly orchestrated this on his own. He needed the feminine wiles of a woman.

Except he did do this all on his own. He is the one who drew up the papers and knew the ramifications. Hope didn't know until the papers were drawn up, Carter had signed as manager and the only actions were to get Steffy and Fridge to sign. Which, again, Carter got them to do all on his own as Hope wasn't even there.

I think they are a bit rushed but so many pairings are on this soap and others so I'm shruggy guy about it. But they are not "gross." They are single, young and hot - why shouldn't they hook up? If I were Hope, I'd hook up with Carter in a nanosecond. 

The sexy sax of sexy (saxy?) times tries too hard with everyone. 

Edited December 11 by CountryGirl

[KnightStorm]

If Deacon had been there...Ridge would've been heading to the hospital. Or the morgue.

[KerleyQ]

34 minutes ago, KnightStorm said:

If Deacon had been there...Ridge would've been heading to the hospital. Or the morgue.

I'm really hoping he hears about it. 

[Waldo13]

What the fuck is Z wearing?  Unflattering to say the lease.  He looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy.  

Please tell me how the loss of Ridge’s friendship is a big loss. The way I see it, the Foresters and the pseudo Foresters are all fair weather friends. They wouldn’t know integrity if it slapped them in the face.  

Brooke, are you so under Ridges fowl odor, that you could stand there and take his disparagement of your Daughter.  As much as you try, Ridge is going to keep blaming your daughter.  

Didn’t Stephanie have quite a bit to do with Eric build FC?  Eric, you didn’t do it on your own. 

Stuffy, you weren’t major adversary before?  What else can you do besides physically attacking Hope?  

As Co-CEO, you are not overly qualified so I’m quite sure Carter can run FC better than you.  I’m quite sure  that Brooke won’t go against Ridge and help run FC.   

There is a line in “Who Framed Rodger Rabbit” where Jessica Rabbit says “I’m not bad, I’m just draw that way”.  You can say that Ridge and Stuffy just follow their dialog but Ridge being a bastard and Stuffy being a bitch is their best acting ability. This would leave me to believe that they are not acting at all 🤔. Just a thought. 

Electra is getting a lot of airtime. Yes, she’s a very pretty young girl but can we see a little more of Ivy for the little older generation. 
 

 

[Anna Yolei]

On 12/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, Foghorn Leghorn said:

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[Artsda]

Why is Brooke not telling Ridge to pack his crap and get out of her house? She was way too calm. She still wanted to support him, way to be pathetic Brooke. 

Hope needs to never forgive Ridge for how he spoke to her. 

 

[Skarzero]

10 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

This SL was supposed to be a bone to Hope supporters? It’s my opinion that Hope looks much worse than Steffy in this situation.

At the risk of sounding like a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, I'm sure that's what the writers wanted. As much as we(rightfully) rag on them for being incompetent they're not totally brainless. They lurk everywhere. That might be why they hurried up Hope's relationship with Carter so her body count would go up, because we were pointing out how stupid it was for Steffy to call Hope Brooke Logan 2.0 when she had only slept with 2-3 guys in her entire life...(She still hasn't caught up to her mom btw Bradley & Co. or even steffy for that matter lmao) 

Hope is worse than Steffy in this situation, and it is not an accident imo. It is meant to hem up anyone still trying to defend her. Now we're supposed to look like crazy assholes for doing so, while also ignoring that Steffy has been able to grow an entire navy on twitter, facebook, and SoapSheKnows despite being an unapologetic, instigating, problematic hellspawn for fifteen, going on sixteen years. It's not fair, but it is what it is. I saw this coming when Steffy made Hope work with Thomas after CPSgate, and instead of taking all the ammunition she already had to court, she caved. Now the Forresters unfortunately have the same kind of ammo on her. And that is what this whole SL was about imo. 

Now Hope gets to "win" but her winning makes her look villainous and shitty. Her win is also ineffectual. She's still as powerless as she ever was. Notice how Steffy is still getting the last word, barged into Hope's home last week and to top it all off she shoulder checked Hope, and Hope didn't beat her ass or even smack her? Come on Bradley, if you're gonna turn Hope into the bad girl go hard or go the fuck home. Make it worthwhile. 

[Anna Yolei]

4 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Putting the blame on Hope removes her agency and that of Carter. Which is another gross heaping helping of misogyny. Because grown-ass man Carter couldn't have possibly orchestrated this on his own. He needed the feminine wiles of a woman.

It so very sexist and if Carter had been doing this for any other woman in this show besides Hope, more people would be calling this misogyny out for what it is. Liam is very much a man who has to be dragged around the nose to take any actions on his own and no one would excuse that shit out of him if he had tried it. Carter  is stupid in love always but he's never had a problem committing to a decision once he's made it.

[JNavarro]

 I also think Hope is MEANT to come off as the deranged bad guy here getting a temporary win.  And Carter too, although maybe worse bc he's barely allowed any agency and looks like her "victim".

Like yeah, it doesn't come of as believable that this is for the good of the company.  Guys, you're doing this to fuck over Ridge and Steffy.  Except that I can't stand those two to the point that I'm absolutely here for it.  

For some reason today I remembered when Steffy got named CEO a few years back, 50 something year old Ridge couldn't even be happy for her and had to throw a temper tantrum so that he got half the role himself.  The guy is that much of a pissant loser that when shit REALLY gets real, that's how he treats his actual daughter, so I can't expect much of him re: Hope.  

 

Edited December 12 by JNavarro

[NinjaPenguins]

I feel like I need a shower after watching this show. If only Ridge felt the same way, right?  He’s such a vile ogre, having a temper tantrum like a kid, telling Hope everyone hates her. Brooke is even more pathetic, wanting to support the man who called her daughter a nasty little bitch. I feel another break coming on, unless of course we’re guaranteed a scene of Deacon sending Ridge on a fun scavenger hunt for his teeth. 

[KerleyQ]

52 minutes ago, Skarzero said:

Now Hope gets to "win" but her winning makes her look villainous and shitty. Her win is also ineffectual. She's still as powerless as she ever was. Notice how Steffy is still getting the last word, barged into Hope's home last week and to top it all off she shoulder checked Hope, and Hope didn't beat her ass or even smack her? Come on Bradley, if you're gonna turn Hope into the bad girl go hard or go the fuck home. Make it worthwhile.

Yep. As gross as all the shit Ridge was saying to Hope, a woman he used to call his daughter, was, it was the writers browbeating a message into the audience.  "Everyone will hate Hope." None of us are ever supposed to notice and bring up Steffy's shit, which is why nobody is ever allowed to throw any of her past deeds into her face when she's on one of her hypocritical rants. But, every single time Hope steps a toe out of line, multiple people have to tear into her and go on and on about how awful whatever she's done is. Even when what she's done isn't awful (i.e. being completely honest with Thomas from jump that she wasn't ready for marriage again). 

I just don't understand why this show doesn't write shit as they intend for it to be seen. 

If they want Steffy to be this tough heroine who is constantly being victimized by Hope and the rest of the Logans, then write that. Don't have her fucking Hope's husband. Don't have her forcing Hope to work with Thomas when Hope had a million and one reasons to not work with him. Don't have her interfere in Thomas and Hope's relationship.  Don't have her interfering in her father's relationship with Brooke.

And if you want her marriage with Finn to be this romantic ideal, write that, instead of the emotionally abusive and controlling mess that seems to be based 70 percent on his constant reassurances that he worships her and 30 percent on sex. Have her reciprocate when he recites how devoted he is to her, how he'd do anything for her, instead of her usual response of "I know how much you love me and would do anything for me." 

If Hope is suppose to be some kind of temptress who lured Carter into all of this, have her be the one to make the first move instead of Carter very blatantly coming onto her first.  Have her discover the LLC papers and ask Carter "so, you could name anyone to run the LLC?" Instead, we had Carter initiate their relationship. We had Carter pushing to get serious and physical ASAP. And we had Carter come up with the LLC plan.  But, Hope gets all of the blame for it, and Carter doesn't even bother to correct the record on that during that big confrontation because, again, nobody is ever allowed to utter any truth when it interferes with the gist of an anti-Logan rant. 

The writers are the ones who, you know, write the story.  So why do they insist on not writing what they want to tell us?  

I got a laugh out of the ads to shop your favorite character's wardrobe.  Can you imagine wearing any of this shit?  Showing up in the office dressed how Steffy dresses for work?  Wearing whatever the fuck they have Hope in today anywhere?  

[blackwing]

On 12/10/2024 at 1:11 PM, Cool Breeze said:

Carter is the manager but the Forresters still hold all the stock.  Not sure Carter could do that without their approval.  Even if he did, it's not his money.  He has no shares in the company.  He wouldn't get a dime even if he were able to sell FC.

Also, why can't the family draft new paperwork removing Carter as FC's manager?

Those are the exact questions I have been asking.  I don't watch live every day and might be a little behind, has this been addressed on the show?

The strange thing is that I thought I read somewhere once that Bradley's father in law is an attorney who acts as legal consultant for the show.  If this show actually has a corporate lawyer as legal consultant, how can the show be butchering the legality of Carter's "takeover"?  He has zero shares.  So I too have been wondering how he can so boldly assert "I'm in control" when the actual shareholders could easily just call an emergency meeting, take a vote, and replace him as manager?

On 12/10/2024 at 10:56 PM, norcalgal said:

Can someone remind me: besides the Forresters and Logans, who else knows that Ridge and Steffy (and Thomas) are not blood Forresters?

Well, on this show, almost everyone is a Forrester or a Logan or married to one.  Obviously, his biological father and brother, Massimo and Nick Marone, knew, but they have been long gone from the show.  Pretty sure that in addition to Brooke, Ridge's wives the first Caroline Spencer and Taylor knew/know.  Not sure if the second Caroline knew.

I don't think Quinn knew.  Not sure if Bill knows.  What I don't understand is that on a show where everyone blabs everyone's business to everyone else, how is it that more people don't know?  Carter was the adopted brother of Marcus (Donna Logan and Justin Barber's son) who was adopted by Eric Forrester.  Does the family knowledge which probably extended to Marcus get passed along at some point to Carter, who is treated like a son by Eric as well?

How would Bill Spencer NOT know when his sister Caroline the First knew?  And when he has been with so many others (Brooke, Katie, Steffy) who do know?  How do they keep such news a secret?

22 hours ago, backhometome said:

Carter/Hope are gross as couple. Nothing is sexy about them. The background music tries too hard with them.

Carter has zero chemistry with anyone.  The actor is just awful.  It's amazing how long he lasted on the show.  The character's only role on the show used to be to take his shirt off in background scenes.  Then they made him the every-lawyer for the company to give him something to do.  

I actually feel like they had run out of storyline for him.  He seemed to disappear for a long time.  But then George Floyd happened and that helped this terrible actor's career.  Bradley was committed to increasing the prominence of certain background characters and giving them more prominent roles.

Quote from Aaron D. Spears (Justin):

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The Bold and the Beautiful has been a white show for a very long time. Circumstances within this world happened and they could’ve ignored it, been like, ‘Ah, whatever; oh, you know what, I’m happy.'[…] But guess what? George Floyd died and things around the office have changed. There are a lot more people behind the scenes, a lot more people in front of the scene; it’s a lot more people writing. No, I haven’t seen a director yet; there are people in the wardrobe. Yes, there’s more they can do, but guess what? They did something and now they’re mixing it up with main storylines with people of color as the lead actors.

Link: https://celebbabylaundry.com/2021/07/the-bold-and-the-beautiful-bb-spoilers-aaron-d-spears-on-justins-future-how-george-floyd-affected-bb/

[Anna Yolei]

15 hours ago, JNavarro said:

For some reason today I remembered when Steffy got named CEO a few years back, 50 something year old Ridge couldn't even be happy for her and had to throw a temper tantrum so that he got half the role himself.  The guy is that much of a pissant loser that when shit REALLY gets real, that's how he treats his actual daughter, so I can't expect much of him re: Hope.  

In complete fairness, Quinn (with Eric's power of attorney) more or less stuck her as CEO as a bribe to get her to support their marriage. She was in no way qualified then or now for the job, Ridheçs tantrums aside.

That said, such behavior towards Steffy is exceedingly rare and out of character from Ridge who has more often than not enabled this shitty brat.

[KerleyQ]

5 minutes ago, blackwing said:

Pretty sure that in addition to Brooke, Ridge's wives the first Caroline Spencer and Taylor knew/know.  Not sure if the second Caroline knew.

I thought the Ridge isn't Eric's biological son reveal came well after Caroline died? 

[GHScorpiosRule]

11 minutes ago, blackwing said:

almost everyone is a Forrester or a Logan or married to one.  Obviously, his biological father and brother, Massimo and Nick Marone, knew, but they have been long gone from the show.  Pretty sure that in addition to Brooke, Ridge's wives the first Caroline Spencer and Taylor knew/know

Nope. Caroline Spencer died within the first year after the show premiered. And DeStefano Massimo didn't show up until years later. So Caroline didn't know, as she died in Ridge's arms.

6 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

I thought the Ridge isn't Eric's biological son reveal came well after Caroline died? 

It did. Years later. As I stated above, Caroline died within the first year of the show. Then her long lost twin, Karen showed up. Naturally.

[backhometome]

Smug Carter almost makes me miss Liam. 

Hope and Carter were just as bitter and out for revenge as they said Steffy was. Its all personal to them. 

Electra seems kinda dumb. 

 

 

[Js Nana]

If Stephanie Forrester's wealthy father, John Douglas, hadn't backed Eric in creating Forrester Creations, he'd be a retired tailor living in a bungalow somewhere in LA.

[La di Diva]

Ridge's disdain for Hope was made clear the first time he called her "that one". It has only gotten worse, culminating with his "nasty little bitch" tirade.  I think much more/ much worse is to come. I believe he'll use the NLB label and nastier when raging about Hope to Brooke.

I can see him going as far a blaming Brooke for Hope's character "flaws", echoing Stuffy that Hope has turned out just like her mother.

Brooke has always been my girl, but if she doesn't brain Ridge with a poker for all the nasty Hope tirades, I may have to rethink my Brooke relationship.

I'd love it if Brooke called Deacon to help take out the TrashRidge after she whacked him with the poker. She could catch Deacon up on how Ridge has treated Hope. Deacon loves his daughter; he'll never let Ridge get away with what he said. TrashRidge deserves whatever Deacon unleashes on him

(I will always be ride or die for Breacon) 

[Anna Yolei]

7 minutes ago, blackwing said:

Pretty sure that in addition to Brooke, Ridge's wives the first Caroline Spencer and Taylor knew/know. 

Caroline Spencer I died long before Massimo was added to the show and even Taylor didn't learn this until after she was resurrected in '05 for the record.

9 minutes ago, blackwing said:

actually feel like they had run out of storyline for him.  He seemed to disappear for a long time.  But then George Floyd happened and that helped this terrible actor's career.  Bradley was committed to increasing the prominence of certain background characters and giving them more prominent roles.

As the Aaron Spears' quote mentioned, B&B has very much been a white show with not even the token interest in diversity the others show, save for the two to three years that the Avants were a thriving core family. The best, clearest example is Keith Anderson from season 7 (those of you watching the old seasons on YouTube will know what I'm talking about and I feel like I speak for everyone when I say he definitely deserves a true shot with Macy more than Thorne ever did).

Genuinely, I don't think that **every** Black actors is as dogshit in acting as fans will lead people to believe so much as the show has no interest in putting energy in working towards their strengths or developing anything for them outside of being supporting player to prop up the Forresters. 🤷‍♀️

45 minutes ago, backhometome said:

Smug Carter almost makes me miss Liam. 

Nothing makes me miss Liam, not even this nonsense, and I'll be glad if and when he moves on from both Steffy and Hope for good.

Wish that he'd married Paris instead of Thomas.

[Js Nana]

Whining about Hope getting in people's heads to further her evil plans - The only way Thomas will be in therapy for the rest of his life will be if he ever again lets his sister get in his head.

[KnightStorm]

It's easy to see why Ridge's brats are the way they are, Ridge enables every bit of their rotten behavior. Thomas doesn't need therapy for the rest of his life because of Hope, Ridge. He needs it because of the crazy DNA you and Taylor saddled your brats with. 

[NinjaPenguins]

Yeah, Ridge can take several seats when it comes to his repulsive son. He was a douche long before Hope and he’ll be a douche forever after. His douchebaggery is infinite and eternal, just like his daddy’s. Hope couldn’t have been more clear with Thomas than if she’d tattooed “Don’t fucking propose” on the inside of his eyelids. And painting Liam as a victim of Hope’s feminine wiles? Buddy, fuck all the way off.

Will kind of showed his ass today. I have zero use for Remy and his eyebrows of doom, so whatever.

[Waldo13]

Of course Ridge holds his sweet innocence daughter harmless when she is the catalyst for Carter taking over FC. Stuffy was very dismissive of Hope and in turn Carter and as he saw it Stuffy was acting on a vendetta and not do what was  in the best interests of FC.  

Another Pseudo Forester, Z, pontificating about being a Forester. 

Ridge’s ego will not accept the fact that Carter betrayed their friendship. He has to blame it on Hope. Carter has his balls unlike Finn whose balls are in Stuffy’s pocket. Stuffy is more controlling than Hope ever could be. Wasn’t it Stuffy who planted the idea that Hope will never marry Thomas and he should leave the country and take Douglas with him.  Stuffy paid no attention to what would happen to HFTF if Thomas was no longer the lead designer.  Stuffy was all for punishing Hope by taking Douglas and HFTF away from her.  

Is Brooke going to take that shit from Ridge?  Show him the door and don’t let it hit you where god split you.  

[KerleyQ]

If Brooke doesn't throw his ass out after that line... 

And, again with the whole nobody is allowed to speak truth when Ridge, Steffy, or Taylor are on an anti-Logan rant. Thomas will be in therapy the rest of his life because of Hope?  Didn't that fucking psycho start therapy after he manipulated his son into covering his lie when he used his son's app to frame Brooke for calling CPS on him?  That had fuck all to do with Hope and everything to do with the fact that Thomas has been a manipulative, lying, abusive sociopath for years. And why would he need therapy to get over Hope, Ridge?  Isn't he perfectly happy and settled into the relationship and impending marriage with the woman he got involved with two seconds after he ended things with Hope, because he's just desperate to be married to someone, anyone?  Oh, and, hey, Ridge, was it Hope's fault when Thomas raped misunderstood your wife, and you didn't know at first if Douglas was your kid or his? 

I need the whole story of the signing of the documents to be made known to everyone, especially Brooke and Eric. Ridge saw Carter's name there, he questioned it. Then, Taylor barged in for her twice daily visit, and Princess SuperBitch got all excited for her mommy and daddy time, so she told Ridge "it's Carter, we trust him, just sign it."  This after she'd spent the previous two weeks bitching about how they couldn't trust Carter anymore because he's let Hope get under his skin.  Had she not been so eager to have her mommy and daddy time, Ridge could have potentially actually read the part with Carter's name on it and figured out what was going on. 

This Remi story seems like one of those cases where the writers one day have no idea what the writers the previous day wrote. Yesterday, Electra was getting uncomfortable and had to tell Remi that she doesn't think of him as anything other than a friend, but today she didn't seem remotely uncomfortable or concerned with his intentions. It's going to be annoying if Will is the only person who is picking up the creepy vibes, and everyone acts like he's just jealous. He's already been super weird around multiple people, but I wouldn't put it past this show to have nobody but Will pick up on it. 

[CharlizeCat]

8 hours ago, Js Nana said:

If Stephanie Forrester's wealthy father, John Douglas, hadn't backed Eric in creating Forrester Creations, he'd be a retired tailor living in a bungalow somewhere in LA.

Thank you. I was coming here to say the same thing. When Eric was whining about starting FC with his blood, sweat, and tears, blah, blah, blah, all I could think was, "No it wasn't a-hole! Your wealthy FIL financing your startup career as a dressmaker." Without Douglas money, there would be no FC.

 

8 hours ago, Js Nana said:

Whining about Hope getting in people's heads to further her evil plans - The only way Thomas will be in therapy for the rest of his life will be if he ever again lets his sister get in his head.

And co-signing on this as well. Thomas was blowing up cars and setting doors on fire while I seemed like Hope was still a toddler. So STFU Ridge! I hate him almost as much as I hate Steffy! 

I truly wish that someone would throw up in that greasy hobo and his Bratz doll daughter faces that when it comes to Forresters, we're looking at Eric, Thorne, Felicia, Kristen, Zende, Rick, and Bridget and their children. I know that Eric raised Ridge and treated him as his own son. Whomp. Whomp. Whomp. Who cares when Steffy constantly weaponizes that last name? I am so tired of Ridge and her constantly getting away with deplorable behavior and bullying.

I am also disappointed in Brooke. Her weak-sauce attempts to stand up to Ridge were wimpy at best. I would have given him a stern warning that if he ever speaks to or about Hope in such a reprehensible manner again, he can pack his bags and head to the limp beige dishrag's at wherever she's currently squatting. 

Remy is super creepy and good for Will for calling him out. I thought FC had super-charged security all around the place (sans Charlie.) How was Remy able to get in and skulk around the building? 

[Cool Breeze]

6 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Will kind of showed his ass today. I have zero use for Remy and his eyebrows of doom, so whatever.

Young Will was actually a bit of a dickhead with his "money, money, money!" aping of his father's worst cartoonishly capitalistic tendencies.  So NuWill's elitist comments to "pizzaboy" actually track.

[RuntheTable]

Ridge calling Hope a nasty little bitch was rotten and mean, but those parting words yesterday, when he looked at the love of his life and said he was going to stop Hope from hurting his family and his business? Wow, that pretty much summed up how Ridge feels about Brooke, because if he doesn’t consider Hope family what does that say exactly?

Brooke did try I guess, when she started to get worked up and brought up how Steffy has always treated Hope. But man, Ridge was on that real quick and in a hurry and put the little woman back in her place. His kids are perfect, and there is always an excuse for their behavior.

This SL stinks because there are no winners here and there is no one to root for. I am just fucking angry at everyone. Carter is misguided, Hope is weak, Brooke is delusional, Ridge is a brute, and Steffy is a bitch. Show leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[KerleyQ]

51 minutes ago, RuntheTable said:

This SL stinks because there are no winners here and there is no one to root for. I am just fucking angry at everyone. Carter is misguided, Hope is weak, Brooke is delusional, Ridge is a brute, and Steffy is a bitch. Show leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

If the show is going to have everyone telling us what a horrible manipulative vixen Hope is, I wish that's what she's actually been doing in this storyline. Instead, it comes off as her just being so broken from years of this bullshit, culminating in her losing her line, and she's just been so happy and relieved to have someone taking up the fight for her. This all would have been so much better if the story would have been her coming up with some kind of plan on her own instead of just going along with whatever someone else came up with. Let her start her own company, luring FC employees to come work with her. And have her announce her new company the morning of the day FC has a fashion show scheduled. Or let her sue the shit out of FC/Steffy and only agree to a quick and quiet settlement if it means Steffy has to step down as CEO. Let her have some fucking agency instead of having to just stand there as everyone hurls abuse at her over Carter's plan and actions. 

[Babysnark23]

I wish they had went to Bill with their ideas and started a competing company and had ppl deciding to go with that company like RJ, Zenda etc. That could have been an interesting s/l. 

[backhometome]

So sick of Electra/Remy/Will being on everyday. 

So much for a hostile environment, Hope. Electra says Steffy was always nice to her. 

Hope lives on Brookes property right? so why doesn't Ridge leave. 

JFC, Ridge is nuts about Hope. 

I never understood how Brooke/Ridge work since they hate each others kids. 

Ew, Hope wants to do Carter in the office.

[lightninggirl]

16 minutes ago, Babysnark23 said:

I wish they had went to Bill with their ideas and started a competing company and had ppl deciding to go with that company like RJ, Zenda etc. That could have been an interesting s/l. 

Agreed - especially when $Bill first came on scene to destroy Eric Forrester as he was avenging his father's love for Stephanie. 

I'm here for the Remy kid, but Ivy and mushmouthed Will can GTFO my screen.

[KnightStorm]

Brooke gets to be CEO,  and all it cost her was an aging Neanderthal. I think she came out ahead in that trade.😝

[Cool Breeze]

7 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

This SL stinks because there are no winners here and there is no one to root for. I am just fucking angry at everyone. Carter is misguided, Hope is weak, Brooke is delusional, Ridge is a brute, and Steffy is a bitch. Show leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

 

I try to check my anti-Logan bent at the door but I agree everyone is behaving badly in this SL.  Carter is a baby.  Steffy is just mean.  Ridge is mean and cruel.  And yet, I think they all have a point.  Buried among their obvious biases. 

Carter is butthurt because the Forresters didn't give his conglomerate idea serious consideration.  Sure, some disappointment makes sense, but this?  And to turn it into a "no one listens unless your last name is 'Forrester'"?  Come on. 

Steffy is supposed to believe Hope, who hit on Finn twice, that this time, she wasn't?  Even though she walked in on her on top of him?  But to turn it into "Logans always hurt us"?  Come on.

Ridge is duly incredulous that his best friend, who's been an invaluable and trusted employee, hasn't been influenced by Hope.  But to call Hope a "bitch" and a "slut"?  To her mother, no less?  Dude.  Come on.

Hope?  I'm not sure what to make of her.  She does seem to relish that this week's man (not casting aspersions on the character - this superfast coupling is purely the result of bad writing) is the one with the power.  And, while the LLC idea was Carter's, she has encouraged him every step of the way.

And the "Logans have been treated like peasants" bit is just way too much.  They are not family.  Their name is not on the door.  Or the giant checks deposited into their respective accounts.  They're employees.  They're not entitled to anything else.  As Don Draper said "That's what the money is for!"  You don't go to Apple and, no matter how much you contribute, demand anything.  Because it's not your company.  

[Waldo13]

I have to repeat myself in saying, trying to argue with Ridge and Stuffy is harder than shoveling out of a snow drift with a spoon. 

No Ridge, it’s you that has the audacity to blame Hope as does Stuffy. Stuffy has the audacity for canceling HFTH because of a perceived perception of Hope going after Finn when Stuffy was perusing Liam for years.  

The final nail in Ridge’s coffin should be demanding Brooke to banish Hope from the property. Ridge, Hope is a slut when Stuffy has two children but needed two paternity tests. Does Ridge know that Stuffy rode the stallion?  I really don’t think that Ridge gives 💩💩 about Brooke because he knows Taylor is waiting in the wings.  This will become more evident next week from the coming attractions. 

[Js Nana]

5 hours ago, backhometome said:

so why doesn't Ridge leave. 

Ridge walked out on Brooke and, of course, ended up at Steffi's - can someone explain to me why the multi-millionaire CEO of a highly successful fashion house lives in a cottage? -  the final scene of today's episode was Ridge embracing Steffi AND Taylor.

[Js Nana]

On 12/11/2024 at 8:58 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Liam is very much a man who has to be dragged around the nose to take any actions on his own

Speaking of Liam, hasn't he been gone from the scene for a really long time?

[CharlizeCat]

C'mon, Brooke! Don't shed another tear over that butthurt ogre. Calling Hope a bitch was one thing, but Ridge knows Brooke's painful association with the s-word. There is no taking that back. What a big baby. I wish that Brooke would have calmly shown Ridge to the door and offered to send his things. Ridge could have just as easily gone to Eric's house. 

I can't wait for Deacon to hear about this and kick Ridge's ass into the next county. BTW, why didn't Hope lay down some of her martial arts skills yesterday when Steffy shoulder-checked her? Hope should have flipped that asshole to the floor. 

[KerleyQ]

I'm so mad that it was Ridge choosing to leave instead of Brooke telling him to get his ass out of her house. 

She should have said "OK, since you're throwing that word around, if my daughter is a slut, and I'm a slut, then you're a slut. Your daughter is a slut. Your precious Taylor is a slut."  

I loved the truth she did lay down on him, though. I'm surprised the writers let her get in that line about Hope raising Douglas because Thomas wasn't fit to do so. 

And I'm cracking up at Ridge belittling Brooke for "thinking her grown daughter can't get her own apartment," as he's bumming his way over to stay with his daughter and ex-wife (with his father being his only other option). Glass houses, asshole.  Glass houses. 

Brooke should pack up Ridge's shit and dump it all over Steffy's front lawn. Let Steffy and her mommy have him. Then we can all laugh at Taylor in like six months, when Ridge starts sniffing around Brooke again, and she has a relapse of her broken heart syndrome.  I hope that Brooke tells him where to go when that happens. 

And now, how soon until Bill's spidey senses start telling him that Brooke is free?  

Oh, and I saw an interview TK did about how Ridge thinks maybe Taylor has been the right woman for him all along, and she doesn't have kids with his brother or father.  No, but she's banged all of them, dude.  Remember that fun time, during HT's last stint as Taylor, when she was with Eric, and your spawn kept talking about "Mom and Eric," like Eric isn't their grandfather?  Her relationship with Thorne?  Her banging Rick right after he was involved with one of your daughters?  Any of this ringing any bells?  

[Artsda]

Brooke needs to tell Ridge he doesn't have to live anywhere in same property as bitchy slut Hope.  Pack his stuff up and let security walk him out and drop him off at the saint daughter of his who is a paragon of virtue.  

I was never a Brooke fan really but Steffy and Ridge has made me team anyone but their bullying deragatory vile name calling. 

[RuntheTable]

And now I have a glimmer of hope. I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but while Brooke looked heartbroken, she also looked angry. As I watched her pound the back of that chair, I saw frustration and fury. Then they showed those previews, and it looks like Brooke will be taking over the reins of FC’s.

So, now, maybe Brooke will remind Ridge that he is not the only one with a family. Brooke is the scion of the Logans, and it is time she rose to that challenge by cutting her ties to that greasy slob. If Ridge wants a turf war, then I say you go for it Brooke. That would be a SL I could completely get behind because it has been building for decades not weeks. It goes back to the very roots of the show and will absolutely touch everyone on the canvas.

I did kind of fucking guffaw out loud when Ridge chirped to Steffy that “Brooke doesn’t seem to think her daughter can have her own apartment.” This, from the king of squatters, who has shuffled from his father’s house, to his partner’s house, to his daughter’s house. And of course, his little Jock Rider (because seriously @KerleyQ, that needs to be trademarked), materialized from the depths of the kitchen, so pathetic in her excitement as she warbled “you left Brooke.” Ah yes, I suspect Ridge will be back in Jock Rider’s bed by nighttime.

When I saw those previews for next week and Brooke was talking about taking over as CEO? I squealed with glee. Brooke should have been in the spot all along instead of Steffy. She is more than capable of doing the job, and it will be far more interesting than watching Carter do it.

Where is RJ? Why hasn’t he been told about this turn of events?

I don’t see this faring well for Donna and Eric.

 

[NinjaPenguins]

Electra is a bit too new and a touch too perky for me to get invested in this stalker storyline. Maybe when things get to the inevitable Eyebrows vs. Chompers steel cage match or if Luna teams up with Remy to wreak havoc on the Spencer men, it’ll be more interesting to me.

Ridge has taken simple dickishness and elevated it into an art form. Let us admire his work! Yes, he keeps dipping into the misogyny by insisting Hope is responsible for Carter’s actions when she wouldn’t know an LLC from LSD. No, it must be a woman who led poor puppet Carter astray. We’re all familiar with Ridge’s consistently brilliant work in the field of sexist bullshit, but then he unveiled his “your daughter is a slut” masterpiece and, personally, my jaw dropped to the floor. There is a streak of cruelty here as the greaseball denigrates his “destiny”’s daughter with a term he knows will hurt Brooke due to her personal history.

Ridge’s ego is much larger than I thought it was, and I figured it could cast a shadow over the entire west coast of North America. He actually believed he would come out on the winning end of an ultimatum to choose him or Hope. (To be fair, you never know with Brooke) Ridge actually expected her to kick her daughter and granddaughter off the property for his trifling ass. Then, when he takes his wounded ego and manpain over to the Cult of the Anti-Logan, they’re all just aghast that Brooke would defend her own child. All Taylor and Ridge ever do is enable their kids’ worst impulses, but other parents should just throw away their own children like trash.

The best part of Ridge’s amazing asshole artistry in this episode is that he willingly went to his own punishment without even realizing it. Enjoy sharing a bed with a limp beige dishrag with all the sexual energy of a traffic cone, dumbass! Just imagine the heartwarming family evenings with Steffy, Ridge, Taylor and Finn sipping hot cocoa while having a good old-fashioned Anti-Logan circle jerk. Sounds like a hell of Ridge’s own making.

[RuntheTable]

OMG! @NinjaPenguins, there are simply not enough likes in the world for that friggin masterpiece. 

You nailed every pertinent point in your standard hilarious way, but this little nugget:

21 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Maybe when things get to the inevitable Eyebrows vs. Chompers steel cage match

I am dead. 

 

Edited December 14 by RuntheTable