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7 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

. At least KA's version was somewhat likable when she wasn't switching into anti-Logan mode. I found her quirky, fun, and entertaining. This one. BLAH. 

Bad wigs aside I loved KAs Taylor. She had a personality. RB is giving nothing. Plus she looks like Steffys sister. 

 

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Well, well, well, did TPTB actually hear my threat?

Because Carter being in charge is quite a comeuppance.

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Justin having to restrain the grin on his face was hilarious. Why Ridge, whom he dropped out of a helicopter, reached out to Justin in the first place is beyond me. Justin cannot stand the Fauxresters. 

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This is why you READ before you sign, folks. 

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Even though this will likely all be flipped back in a week or so, I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

Seeing the smug wiped off BIAB and Sludge's faces is worth it.

 

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3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Justin having to restrain the grin on his face was hilarious. Why Ridge, whom he dropped out of a helicopter, reached out to Justin in the first place is beyond me. Justin cannot stand the Fauxresters. 

I guess Ridge thought who better to catch a Black, bff/brother/right-hand man who betrayed his boss/bff than a Black, bff/brother/right-hand man who betrayed his boss/bff.

But nevermind that this whole scenario is just full of legal holes.  The family could take Carter to court forcing him to prove they knew his status as LLC manager meant he'd have control of FC and that they authorized and approved that change in status.  It'd be embarrassing but it would get the job done.  TPTB should at least mention potential scandal and embarrassment as reasons for not fighting this in the courts.

Also, it'd be interesting to see Carter try to force Eric and Ridge to work for him.  If they don't have contracts with FC (and they're a family company with weak business acumen so they may not), he can't.  They can walk and set up shop elsewhere.  What's FC without Eric and Ridge as lead designers?  Again, TPTB could raise this and address it by saying Eric and Ridge don't want the FC reputation sullied by subpar work, requiring them to stay.

But we know none of this will ever happen.

ETA, Brooke doesn't have an office because no one has an office!  Ridge used to but now that's the design office, used by everyone from Katie to Hope to Carter, all non-designers.  The only person with their name on an office door is Eric and his office has been taken over by Steffy and Ridge.

 

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18 hours ago, JNavarro said:

Wait, Ridge "should have known" that Carter was a sleaze when he slept with his dad's wife, but St.Carter's downfall somehow ALL started with Hope?  Figured that one out all by himself?

Well, he also slept with his father's wife too! So WTF does that make him?!

Truly love watching the show erase any agency Carter has solely to twist themselves in knots to bash Hope.  I mean Carter's the one who the financial expert here...Hope certainly ain't the one  the State of California is gonna throw the book at simply for whispering in his ear once.

 

18 hours ago, JNavarro said:

truly do not understand what is supposed to be the appeal of Brooke and Ridge at this point.  They don't do anything.  They certainly aren't the rare legacy couple gives "still in love" vibes.

With Ronn Moss, this was their one and only saving grace when the 2000s had Victor wishing death on Nikki after his child bride died (forgot her name but she was stupid young for him) and Lily and Holden having more splits than even Bridge over even stupider shit and Carly Tenney and Jack Snyder blatantly weaponizing their daughter against the other (whoo boy, Sage would've made Steffy look like 80s Christine Blaire if that show lasted into her teen years), Bridge did feel like they at a minimum genuinely enjoyed one another's company.

These days he's more snappish if she burns his dinner than IG Ridge was about learning about her fling with Deacon.

 

17 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

She may have been good on Meerkat Manor or whatever

As someone who watched that show, I will not hear of such slander towards Flower and her family! :p

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If I was Carter, I'd sell the company off piecemeal. Ride off into the sunset (or onto a diff show) with a cool billion before the Forrester Dinosaurs could even finish gathering their belongings and be escorted to the elevators. Let $Bill pick up those scraps and give it to Poppy and Luna to run into the ground. 

So if Carter is manager... he can appoint Brooke as CEO, can he hire Justin as COO? Cuz that would be another delicious slap to The BiaB and her father. Now where will Taylor go to hang out all day? Will Finn have to actually do his job FROM HIS JOB location? 

 

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20 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Funny how Ridge can rip Carter for banging Quinn while she was married to Eric, but he doesn't mention his own pursuit of Quinn while she was married to Eric.  At least Carter, eventually, had Eric's permission, Ridge. Have you had daddy's permission any of the times you've slept with his wives?  I know, it's super shocking to see Ridge be a hypocrite. Almost as shocking as it is to Taylor and their spawn be hypocrites. 

Soooooooo much THIS! 

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This wasn't really a main point of the show today, but Carter betraying the "brotherly" relationship he supposedly had with Ridge is such a dud, because IMO it never came off like that all.  

With the caveat of being an on (and mostly off) again viewer the last couple of years, the combination of LSV and TK's acting plus the story limitations made it seem that Carter was a well liked but not particularly respected employee. 

Although in a way it is in line with TK's Ridge that he would look down on someone all the while acting like he was doing them a favor.  

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The first order of business should be to reinstate HFTF. Next, Carter should call all employees to the front lobby to watch while Hope and Charlie escort Steffy from the building. DELICIOUS!

Yes! Brooke should definitely be given some type of executive position -- with an office. Was anybody watching back in the day when Stephanie forced Brooke out of her office, including shoving KKL in a trash can to be carried out by the janitorial staff? Well ... this time, the Logan will be throwing out the Forrester garbage in the name of Steffy.

I guess that if Carter is the "manager," then Brooke could be CEO. To twist the knife, bring Justin on as legal counsel.

I don't care what happens to Ridge or Eric. I hope they pout and quit. Then, they can sit around Eric's house all day with Taylor and bitch and moan about the evil Logans and duplicitous Carter. They don't dare darken Brooke's doorstep. 

So happy to see Luna today! 

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I heard what Justin said, but I don’t agree.  An LLC is owned by its members (partners). The LLCs I have seen don’t have a “manager”.  They have a managing member who is chosen from amongst the members to make decisions on behalf of all the members.  
Even if the members signed the document and appointed Carter as “manager”, they could just as easily sign a new document that unappoints him.   Carter doesn’t have any shares/ membership units in Forrester Creations, does he?  Without any ownership interest, he won’t get any votes or say in what the members do. 

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I know that, much like Bitch In A Box, this won't last very long, but I'm going to enjoy it while I can. 

Eric was really slow on the uptake there, wasn't he?  Trying to fire Carter after Justin explained to them that the paperwork putting Carter in charge was legit and filed properly. Dude, you can't fire him. He can fire you, but you can't fire him.  Personally, though, if there is going to be any firing, I hope Princess SuperBitch is the first to go. Just don't fire her before Hope gets there for a front row seat, Carter.  Hey, maybe call Finn Steffy's Husband and Taylor in to witness it, too. 

And, Eric, let's not forget all the details of what happened with Carter and Quinn. You had completely shut Quinn out because you didn't want to admit you couldn't get it up, so you would have rather had her think you didn't love or want her anymore. So, yeah, she should have just divorced your ass, but she cheated instead. But, then you gave them the greenlight to carry on while you ran around with Donna behind Quinn's back. So take several seats when referencing that whole situation. 

So, does everyone in Los Angeles think Hope is some kind of secret legal super genius who knew that Ridge and Steffy wanted to file those LLC papers and came up with this whole plan to seduce Carter so she could then talk him into making himself (not her, but him) the big boss? 

When Steffy told Carter "we worked so well together," he should have responded "sure, as long as I agreed with everything you said and did." Bitch in a Box has no time for anyone who doesn't kiss her ass. 

Loved that end shot of Carter taking his place behind the desk while the three of them were still trying to wrap their brains around reality. 

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Steffy is quite the broken record. “So you’re defending the Logans?” “You’re choosing the Logans.” Logan, Logan, Logan. She can use her upcoming (hopefully) free time to explore this promising new concept called getting a life

Justin was barely able to hide his enjoyment. Me too, guy.

Luna is still cray. So is Bill, if he thinks a visit will do anything but encourage her. 

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Fashionista Follies  LA Edition

Today The Bitch In A Box abandoned her WWE Championship Belt for a chic "Disapproving Mother of the Groom Black Lace Mourning the Wedding" dress. 

Carter wore classic black on black on black attire for an informal visit to Hope. His lovely companion wore a tastful less faux pleather outfit suitable for the Dominatrix role she has been cast in. Staff was tardy in bringing out the whips and feathers for the scene, but due to unavoidable budget issues......

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10 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

Hope's outfit reminded me of a garbage bag. I don't like AN in the severe dark eye makeup either. It detracts from her natural beauty. She doesn't need all heavy makeup.

This is how you know Hope is an evil, conniving succubus who weaves mind control spells with her bikini zone. Just more of that subtle, nuanced symbolism Bell brings to the table. 

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Well, that was unsatisfying. It’s not that I don’t enjoy Steffy and Ridge getting a long overdue bitch slap, but it is the wrong person/persons doing the slapping. Carter has never been treated badly, he was accepted, has officiated at almost every wedding, handled most of the divorces, was given a job, and was promoted to COO. I will also throw in the whole Quinn thing, where Eric forgave Carter, even though that whole SL was nauseating. As for Carter’s ideas about the company? I don’t take an employer not implementing your ideas as a slight, particularly when those ideas would have meant a huge money outlay, along with loans and financing. If I had a dollar for every employer that side eyed one of my ideas, I would be a wealthy retiree right now, and my ideas were things like, switching paper suppliers, or toner suppliers, not something that could have bankrupted the company. So, I don’t buy this whole I am so disrespected that I must steal your company stuff.

Also annoying is how Carter won’t pick a lane and stay in it. Is this about his ideas or avenging Hope? Why can’t Hope avenge herself? Hope and Brooke are the ones who have true beefs with Steffy and Ridge. Brooke knows how to fight these battles, she has done so many times before, but she also can’t seem to pick a lane. One day we have her storming into the CEO office confronting Ridge and Taylor, then the next day she is at the cabin freaking out with Hope, worried sick about Ridge. This truly pisses me off. Brooke has grown in so many ways, but as a mother she still falls flat. Once again, she is more worried about her fucking Destiny than her child. Of all people, she knows how it feels to be shoved aside like trash. To be belittled and degraded and judged. Brooke should be encouraging Hope to stand up for herself, not standing there talking about how butt hurt Ridge is.

Seriously Brooke, you need to take those fucking Destiny blinders off and read the room. Ridge has made it clear who he holds responsible for this. He is siding with his daughter against your daughter, which ultimately means siding against you. How are you going to cope with his constant tirades about your heathen spawn? How are you all going to coexist? If Ridge orders you to evict Hope again, will you do it this time? You know Taylor is right there with her tragic BHS, and her need to set her Chakra’s right, so yeah, I can see you booting Hope out. How is Christmas going to work? Will Ridge allow Hope and Beth in the main house? Or will he boycott that family holiday, for one with his other family? If Brooke thinks that any of this is going to turn out well for her and her Destiny, she better prepare herself.

As some of my fellow posters have noted, suddenly changing up someone’s wardrobe to black leather/pleather, or black/grey monochrome, does not make them a badass. They have been trying this shit with Steffy for years, and she has always come off as a Bratz doll gone bad. And whatever that was that Hope was wearing was just plan fugly. Carter looked smokin hot though.

Luna! Wow, when Poppy was going off on her and she had that wicked mean ass smile on her face? This SL does have my interest. You just know Luna will be out in a week after Poppy made a point of telling her she would be there forever. Bill is gonna cave, I can just feel it and will probably help Luna. Maybe Luna and creepy Remy will hookup to get Will out of the way, so she will have a clearer path to Bill. I wonder how she will manage Katie, cause you know Gladys will be all up in it. That does have the other side of the coin too, where Bill would have to save Katie from Luna’s crazy grasp, and that being Katie’s wakeup call to how she really feels about Bill. UGH.

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5 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Why can’t Hope avenge herself?

Thank you! I know most people watching after 2019 missed when Hope was capable of defending herself, but she did used to do so. After the shit Steffy's put her through and Ridge deciding to check out because his brat asked him to (after putting the kabash on a man who DID love her wanting to adopt her, no less), this deserved to be her own moment.

It makes no sense, unless Carter is leaving the show at the end of this. Which begs the question why this just couldn't be HIS own story that didn't involve Hope at all. This story reads as both sexist AND racist at once.

 

 

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On 12/6/2024 at 5:45 PM, Anna Yolei said:

(whoo boy, Sage would've made Steffy look like 80s Christine Blaire if that show lasted into her teen years),

DO NOT SUMMON SAGE!!! 

Honestly, I don't think I could handle that. My nerves are shot these days and that might send me RIGHT OVER THE EDGE. 😳🙄

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That does have the other side of the coin too, where Bill would have to save Katie from Luna’s crazy grasp, and that being Katie’s wakeup call to how she really feels about Bill.

While I tend to be on the side of Bill and Katie really don't need another go round, HT and DD still have a ton of chemistry and manage to make me care every now and again during their scenes. I'd still rather watch any version of your scenario than what we are currently seeing on screen. Sorry not sorry.

I don't care at all about Carter taking over Forrester. I don't. Ultimately stupid Steffy and Ridge will win and there's no suspense in that. I'd much rather see Carter/Hope and whoever start their own fashion company to challenge Forrester.

Brooke has never been a character I care much about but WTF are the writers doing to her? i know Ridge is her destiny but come on! Also KKL and TK continue to have negative chemistry. Dude has been playing 'Ridge' for 11 years and it is just the worst recast.

Ugggh ... this show.

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I thought I might lunge for my TV when Steffy fixed her mouth to accuse Carter of hypocrisy.  From the reigning hypocrisy champion of Los Angeles?  Get out of here with that shit. And Ridge's "nobody judges your relationship, nobody cares about that."  Um, were you not just giving him an ultimatum to dump Hope if he wants to stay employed at FC? 

I'm disappointed that, when they're all blaming Hope and talking about how she is some evil siren who lured Carter to the dark side, or whatever, that Carter didn't say anything to correct the record. Something like "I'm the one who pursued Hope," or "I'm the one who came up with this idea. Hope had no idea about the LLC paperwork until I talked to her about it after I came up with this plan.  And I'm putting myself in charge, not Hope." 

I am not going to have much sympathy for Brooke when Ridge inevitably decides to give his bitchass daughter the gift of him banging her mother for Christmas. 

I'm going to give this show so much side eye if Bill doesn't at least have a conversation or two with Poppy (and maybe Li, too, to get her perspective) before he just wholesale buys all that Luna is selling him. He's smarter than that, and Luna has already fooled him once, so he'd be more on guard. 

I laughed out loud when the Hope mannequin box made an appearance. 

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1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

What Bill actually shedding a tear today over LUNA-tic? I sure don't enjoy this new watered-down version of Bill. Bring back bad-ass Skyscraper-Lovin' $Bill!

Even though I was neutral about Brill, no way did Brooke deserve get dumped over a freaking *building*!!!  Let’s just have all around kick ass, take charge Bill without the building obsession (I can’t recall what the building was called…Skye?)

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Once again Eric is so full of 💩. Carter had your blessing to be with Quinn because you couldn’t get it up. Eric, weren’t you still married to Quinn when you were playing “pickle ball” with Donna. 

 

Brooke you are more outraged about Carter taking over FC than Stuffy firing Hope and Ridge backing her.  

 

Then we have the news report just when things were getting a little bit interesting. 

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Hope?  Carter?  

If you want to work for a family-owned business, and you’re not family?  Maybe don’t get your knickers in a twist if you’re not treated like family.  

Start your own family business.  But don’t get upset because you’re name’s not on the building of a business you just lucked into (Hope) and somehow developed a following for a vague, “sustainable”, “inspiring” line of clothes when you’re not even a designer.

And Carter?  Employers are under no obligation to accept and implement every idea one of their employees comes up with.  None.  If they say “Thank you” and immediately forget about it, you always have the option of taking your talents elsewhere.  But don’t whine, please.  

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Have I mentioned how incredibly stupid this "corporate takeover" plot is?

Lets say Ridge and Steffy and Eric all begrudgingly step down from...whatever job they supposedly do.  They will of COURSE poison the well and none of Forester's previous backers are going to do business with them or partner with Carter in this Fine Cheeses and Leather Goods empire.

I still like my idea better...sell it off.  Use the profit to make Hope for the Future into a separate entity.  But the way this was done, Carter will never be able to realize his global brand dreams. With the way things normally go on this show, how long til Finn and/or Liam slither over to Forester to voice their anger and deep disappointment?

 

 

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7 hours ago, Cool Breeze said:

Hope?  Carter?  

If you want to work for a family-owned business, and you’re not family?  Maybe don’t get your knickers in a twist if you’re not treated like family.  

But, to be fair to Hope and Carter:

Hope is family. She's been Ridge's stepdaughter for most of her life, and he helped raise her and has told her multiple times that she is family. Eric also considers both Brooke and Hope to be part of his family.  

And Carter.  How many times have Ridge and Eric, in the past week, talked about how Carter was family?  

Sure, neither one of them is related to Eric or Ridge by blood, but that's not all that makes a family. (If it was, then Ridge and his kids wouldn't be part of that "family business," either.) 

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9 hours ago, smartyshorts said:

I still like my idea better...sell it off.  Use the profit to make Hope for the Future into a separate entity.  

Carter is the manager but the Forresters still hold all the stock.  Not sure Carter could do that without their approval.  Even if he did, it's not his money.  He has no shares in the company.  He wouldn't get a dime even if he were able to sell FC.

Also, why can't the family draft new paperwork removing Carter as FC's manager?

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On 12/6/2024 at 5:45 PM, Anna Yolei said:

With Ronn Moss, this was their one and only saving grace when the 2000s had Victor wishing death on Nikki after his child bride died (forgot her name but she was stupid young for him)

Don't ask me why I remember such a random thing, but she was Victoria's friend Sabrina.

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Damn, what a repugnant, greasy weasel. To fix his mouth to call Hope a bitch in front of her mother/his destiny, & Carter, whom he know Hope is involved with…I have no words. Carter has never been hotter than he was in that moment (well, maybe the beginning of Quarter). If Brooke dared call Steffy a bitch, even though Steffy has always treated Brooke like less-than, Ridge would boil over. I don’t agree with Hope & Carter’s methods, but I’m tired of the Forresters always winning, & it’s time they lose for a while, so I’m reluctantly on team Harter. 
 

This is the kind of story that could be a canvas story. Have Hope & Carter leave, $Bill help fund a new fashion house, Katie does PR, Brooke could be CEO, whatever. $Bill would be all over helping stick it to the dressmaker. 

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Carter and Hope are truly delusional if they think no one would care about their take over. and just quietly accept it. 

If I was Steffy/Ridge/Eric I would abandon ship and see how fast they drive FC to the ground. Not to mention I bet Thomas would go with them.

Dummy Hope is confused why Forrester's run Forrester Creations. 

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But, to be fair to Hope and Carter:

Hope is family. She's been Ridge's stepdaughter for most of her life, and he helped raise her and has told her multiple times that she is family. Eric also considers both Brooke and Hope to be part of his family.  

And Carter.  How many times have Ridge and Eric, in the past week, talked about how Carter was family?  

Sure, neither one of them is related to Eric or Ridge by blood, but that's not all that makes a family. (If it was, then Ridge and his kids wouldn't be part of that "family business," either.) 

Hypocrisy is the default setting for Ridge and Steffy.  If someone is NOT a blood Forrester, they’re not family.  But for Steffy and Ridge, even though they are NOT blood Forresters, they are “family”.  *WE* see the hypocrisy even if the writers have adopted a “nothing to see here, move along” attitude.

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4 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

But, to be fair to Hope and Carter:

Hope is family. She's been Ridge's stepdaughter for most of her life, and he helped raise her and has told her multiple times that she is family. Eric also considers both Brooke and Hope to be part of his family.  

And Carter.  How many times have Ridge and Eric, in the past week, talked about how Carter was family?  

Sure, neither one of them is related to Eric or Ridge by blood, but that's not all that makes a family. (If it was, then Ridge and his kids wouldn't be part of that "family business," either.) 

But, let's remember how Ridge's side treats family. They have a body count (Ally, Ivy) and throw in Emma just to give one to Thomas. Ridge kind of killed Brooke's rapist, too. No tears on that death. Oh, and Phoebe's death was due in part to Taylor boinking Rick. She boinked 3 generations of Logans (Steven, Storm, Rick). All of these wonderful facts that could be thrown in the Fauxresters' faces! Somebody please read these people for filth!

 

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Carter do you actually think that Ridge will let bygones be bygones?  

Brooke, Carter ripped FC out from under Ridge and Stuffy but she still defends them for ripping HFTF out from under Hope.  Brooke two wrongs don’t make a right but 2 Wrights can make an airplane. 

Ridge didn’t Justin tell you the LLC is ironclad, but you still want to bring litigation. 

Once again Eric is being senile. Ridge and Stuffy don’t have a scintilla of Forester DNA.  

As far as I’m concerned Ridge, it’s your daughter that is a bitch.  A major bitch. 
  
Is Luna playing Bill?  At this point, what can Bill actually do for her except give her a sympathetic ear.  I have to admit, I’m a sucker for woman’s tears. 

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Carter should have punched him. And, if he won't, then Brooke should have pushed him out of the way so she could punch him.  I swear, if Brooke just accepts him talking about her daughter that way, after she's spent all this time defending him... 

Oh, oh, someone tell Deacon what Ridge called his daughter, please. 

If Brooke says nothing about this, then I really, really hope that, when Ridge eventually fucks his limp beige dishrag, Hope has exactly zero time to listen to her mother lamenting her loss of her destiny. 

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