Janelle Brown: Smarter Than Your Average Brown (Maybe)

[iwantcookies]

I agree that outfit is unflattering! 

[Kellyee]

I thought Molly had a real business. Is she selling Plexus now too??

[xwordfanatik]

It's nice they went together and took several kids.  It's not nice for the trip's reason.  MLM shilling is predatory and costs more than it nets for what, 90+% of sellers?  These women only make whatever money they net because of their Z-list status.  Boo!  Hiss!

[Jeanne222]

Christine looks like she’s putting on a few pounds. 

[ginger90]

So far it looks like, Janelle, Christine, Maddie and her two children, Truely, Ysabel, and Ysabel’s friend Hayden made the trip. I assume Ysabel and her friend are there as babysitters. The info on the trip said for the receptions, it is advised children under 12 not attend, as it is adult themed.

 Edited to add: Caleb is there also.

Edited March 13, 2022 by ginger90

[Teafortwo]

21 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

It's nice they went together and took several kids.  It's not nice for the trip's reason.  MLM shilling is predatory and costs more than it nets for what, 90+% of sellers?  These women only make whatever money they net because of their Z-list status.  Boo!  Hiss!

Agree 100% this is a total grift, and these Z-listers seem to have gotten in early. They must be making bank. I don't think anyone need worry about how Janelle and Christine will support themselves after the show is cancelled (not that anyone was worrying, but some of us have wondered). If they're too dumb to sock away the money they're making on this crap now, before the TV attention goes away, that's on them. 

 

[ginger90]

Janelle and Christine have a competition  going. They’re  telling Plexus users to choose one of them to encourage them through their journey. This is for current customers and those who buy a starter pack. Tough choice. 🤣
 

 

[iwantcookies]

Imagine if Jill Rodrigues ran into them 🤣🤪

[ginger90]

Savanah is on the trip also. I was wondering since she hadn’t been mentioned. 
 

edited to add, Gwen and her girlfriend too.

Edited March 14, 2022 by ginger90

[Kellyee]

So is this how Janelle "thinks" about whether she wants to stay in polygamy and work on her relationship with Robyn? She's spending all her time with her kids and Christine and Christine's kids. Robyn and Kody are nowhere in sight. But Janelle is still "married". Right, Janelle. What is the point of the lie? For filming, or to keep Kody coming over to do small chores around the house? I wonder if Robyn and Kody are watching Janelle's dogs while Janelle vacations on Spring Break with Christine. 

[LilyD]

I fully agree with you @Kellyee. It really looks like 'pretend play" and we all know there is little that even remotely sounds like marriage.

However, there are loads of couples who have grown apart and go their own way for most of the week/month but stay together for a multitude of reasons. It can be for convenience (not the hassle of a divorce and messing up their lives) or financial reasons. And some have discovered that they're perfectly happy with each other as long as they don't have to spend 24/7 around their partner, which sounds a lot like Janelle.

I think Janelle is fine with how it is now. She does what she wants, when she wants and occasionally gets a visit from a husband she mainly sees as her long time bestie. 

[Pickleinthemiddle]

59 minutes ago, Kellyee said:

So is this how Janelle "thinks" about whether she wants to stay in polygamy and work on her relationship with Robyn? She's spending all her time with her kids and Christine and Christine's kids. Robyn and Kody are nowhere in sight. But Janelle is still "married". Right, Janelle. What is the point of the lie? For filming, or to keep Kody coming over to do small chores around the house? I wonder if Robyn and Kody are watching Janelle's dogs while Janelle vacations on Spring Break with Christine. 

You know they are not watching the dogs.  My guess is they are being taken care of by Gabe or Robert.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Well it is nice to see Janelle and Christine together on a trip, Meri is stuck with her stupid FWF and house crasher Jenn and Robyn is sobbing silently in her pillow because she wasn't invited to tag along

[iwantcookies]

Dang Meri is as frightening as Freddy Kruger.

[notnowimbusy]

In Sept 2021 Janelle registered a new retail business NTYK LLC with AZ Sec of State    The location is a space at 809 W. Riordan Rd. Flagstaff AZ .    Janelle is the main "agent", but Christine, Kody, Robyn & Meri are all listed as 5 company contacts.     This is an office building, renting for $2,000 per month.   

Questions.  1) How can they afford to rent yet another space.  2) what are they selling? Plexus?), and why would all their names be associated.   Riordan Mill Center is the complex.

They are listed in Suite 100.  But what shows up for that is a Mail Box Plus , pack 'n ship, franchise.

Edited March 14, 2022 by notnowimbusy

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Well those cheap leggings aren't going to walk themselves someplace right? It probably is where they get their mail and ship their shit, unless they need room to store their junk and mail it close by? I am surprised old Meri is on that when she has enough room in her rennal to store her crap 

[Sandy W]

1 hour ago, notnowimbusy said:

In Sept 2021 Janelle registered a new retail business NTYK LLC with AZ Sec of State    The location is a space at 809 W. Riordan Rd. Flagstaff AZ .    Janelle is the main "agent", but Christine, Kody, Robyn & Meri are all listed as 5 company contacts.     This is an office building, renting for $2,000 per month.   

Questions.  1) How can they afford to rent yet another space.  2) what are they selling? Plexus?), and why would all their names be associated.   Riordan Mill Center is the complex.

They are listed in Suite 100.  But what shows up for that is a Mail Box Plus , pack 'n ship, franchise.

This could be the distribution center for their LIV International products.  They were involved with this MLM either before or shortly after the program started.  If they were in this program near the beginning of the pyramid, it could explain why they appear flush with money and are able to get financing for their various properties, drive expensive cars and travel as extensively as they do.

TLC probably doesn't want their outside businesses directly mentioned on the show.

[ginger90]

They had that LLC in Nevada:

2020-11-22 - 2021-04-08

Became inactive

2020-11-22 - 2021-04-08

Change of status from 'Active' to 'Revoked'

 

It was started in 2016 in Nevada.

 

They had it in Utah also:

Utah Domestic LLC filed On November 24, 2010. The company's filing status is listed as Expired.

Edited March 14, 2022 by ginger90

[Grifter Lives]

4 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Well it is nice to see Janelle and Christine together on a trip, Meri is stuck with her stupid FWF and house crasher Jenn and Robyn is sobbing silently in her pillow because she wasn't invited to tag along

Janelle will face the wrath of Kody, as will Christine if she is still around. In the tell-all, he complained about some of his wives (i.e., Christine and Janelle) forming in a clique and deemed them horribly mean to their sister wives (i.e., Robyn, since Meri's already discarded).  When he said it, he probably had Thanksgiving and their clandestine COVID gatherings in mind, but I can also see him calling their Plexus endeavors a clique, just to further minimize them.

[deirdra]

10 hours ago, Kellyee said:

But Janelle is still "married". Right, Janelle. What is the point of the lie? For filming, or to keep Kody coming over to do small chores around the house? 

Garrison & Gabe seem to be better at chores that Kootie, who stops over and talks and runs off before anything much is completed. Garrison renovated his RV kitchen and Gabe peeled logs while Kootie disrespected him.

Edited March 15, 2022 by deirdra

[deirdra]

809 W. Riordan Rd. Flagstaff AZ also houses a "Mail Box Plus" w/Fedex, so their "office" is probably just a commercial mail drop, so creditors don't show up at their homes.

Edited March 15, 2022 by deirdra

[eskimo]

4 hours ago, Grifter Lives said:

Janelle will face the wrath of Kody, as will Christine if she is still around. 

Too bad for Kody his wrath carries no weight with either Janelle or Christine anymore.  He has nothing to lord over them that they want or need, and they don't have to deal with his righteous indignation either.  So wrath away, Kodester.  It won't affect anyone outside of Robyn's household.  What an interesting turn of events.  

[LilyD]

On 3/15/2022 at 3:52 AM, deirdra said:

809 W. Riordan Rd. Flagstaff AZ also houses a "Mail Box Plus" w/Fedex, so their "office" is probably just a commercial mail drop, so creditors don't show up at their homes.

I’m not really into business laws and such, but I do know there are people that establish companies with a business structure that doesn’t hold them liable personally.  Those companies often end up going bust with huge debts that cannot be collected. After the bankruptcy, they’ll simply start a new business and start all over again. I’m guessing their businesses serve a similar purpose as their houses; The businesses make some money and as soon as that happens, they start bleeding the beast until there’s nothing left. Basically like taking loan after loan out on their houses because the value has increased so much (on paper). 

 Also, we shouldn’t forget that the Browns have quite a few businesses for their various activities. That also brings extra advantages. There’s Janelle’s strive business, Christine’s, Meri’s and Janelle’s  MLM businesses, KBF entertainment, LIV and now this one. I have a gut feeling they’re spreading their activities and debt raking over the various companies making it harder to grasp or be detected. Quite possibly, they’re using the companies themselves as collateral too. 

 

[LilyD]

On 3/6/2022 at 12:54 PM, ginger90 said:

I finally got what was bothering me about these posts! It’s her constant use of her business profile for personal messages! Why on earth would a health coach advertise her love of binge watching for hours at a time while hanging on the sofa like a sloth? Don’t get me wrong, I’m absolutely fine with her binge watching. Please do. But it just makes you totally unbelievable as a health coach!

[Kellyee]

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Janelle will face the wrath of Kody, as will Christine if she is still around. In the tell-all, he complained about some of his wives (i.e., Christine and Janelle) forming in a clique and deemed them horribly mean to their sister wives (i.e., Robyn, since Meri's already discarded).

They are a clique, just like Kody and Robyn are a clique, and Robyn and Meri are occasionally a clique. The whole family dynamic is toxic. It reminds me of first and second best friends in middle school. 

Janelle and Kody are not married, not legally, spiritually, or in any other sense of the word. Janelle is more in denial than Meri if she thinks they are married. But I really think Janelle knows she's not married, and just keeps up the façade for the perks it sometimes provides.

 

 

 

[ginger90]

[TurtlePower]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Ok, the reason I used the laugh emoji is because I don’t believe her. I don’t believe she is doing the hard work of proper diet and exercise because it doesn’t show that she has—she’s been shilling this crap long enough to have lost weight and gained fitness. It’s supposed to help with cravings and all these other claims, yet she looks the same with that big belly hanging down.

I really, really wish her success at this but we’ve become so used to Janelle accomplishing so little. Big words, no results. I just don’t believe her.  It’s illogical she’s trying to sell something that doesn’t even look like it works (because alone, it doesn’t DUH Janelle). 

[Elizzikra]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

That is a great photo of her.

[iwantcookies]

She should photoshop her belly off. Make herself slim. Basically copy Meri.

[Sandy W]

15 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

She should photoshop her belly off. Make herself slim. Basically copy Meri.

Then we could expect a snarky tirade from Meri expressing that other people Strive for the perfection that she enjoys.

[iwantcookies]

Whoever said her gut is shaped like a butt… thanks I’m still laughing.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

As much as I snark on J, that is a nice pitchur. It really would make complete sense for Janelle to move to NC. She could find a small house close by and feed those little tykes canned cabbage as much as she wanted. Also, her and Maddie can shill that poison in plastic together, heck maybe even throw Tupperware parties. I would think NC has better weather to grow her veggies she just throws in her pot and serves on chipped plates for her new venture of farm or can to table restaurant. Hunter isn't too far away and it seems like Gabe and Garrison are just starting their lives on their own and not because Kdouche got his way and had them thrown out. She can go back to visit twice a year, its about the same amount she sees Kdouche anyway, she probably can stay in the  basement of the mcmansion as Robyn's spawn are far too precious to give up their room for anyone. Another perk is I am guessing cost of living is a bit better than Flag

[xwordfanatik]

"can to table restaurant," LOL!

Thank you for that, @Mahamid Frauded Me.  Your entire post makes perfect sense, and that's why it probably won't happen...Janelle probably hopes Kootie will swing by when she goes back to her RV on Prairie Plague.  I think she still has the hots for that ass-clown.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

53 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

"can to table restaurant," LOL!

Thank you for that, @Mahamid Frauded Me.  Your entire post makes perfect sense, and that's why it probably won't happen...Janelle probably hopes Kootie will swing by when she goes back to her RV on Prairie Plague.  I think she still has the hots for that ass-clown.

Yeah, sadly I agree. She will stay and hover around for any little scraps thrown her way from him, she will act all "frontier woman" offering al fresco dining among the elk on plague pond  storm drain, waiting for him while poor Savannah gets stuck between the fold down kitchen table/bed

[LilyD]

15 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

she probably can stay in the  basement of the mcmansion as Robyn's spawn are far too precious to give up their room for anyone.

You'd assume with a house as big as the McMansion that it's easy for a sister wife to move in once the oldest 3 leave. If they ever leave... If they stay, Robyn and Kody never have to think of potentially accepting a SW in their own house. Now that is convenient.

I find it still striking that all Brown kids move out once they turn 18, apart from Robyn's kids. That's another way to turn them into the outcasts of the family but of course Robyn won't see it like that.

I know a woman who still has her 30++ year old son at home because it is so hard for "the boy" to qualify for a mortgage and running your single person household really is a lot to ask when you have a fulltime job. She thinks she's doing an amazing job but in truth, her son is the laughing stock of the family and the neighbourhood.

[Madding crowd]

In many parts of the world family members live together their whole lives so I don’t see why this man should be a laughing stock. My husband lived at home ( paying rent) until he was 30 because his dad died and his mom needed his help. My own son is 24 and lives at home because he is just starting out in his career and rents around here are $1400 a month and up. I think there are right and wrong reasons for living at home as an adult.

Edited March 16, 2022 by Madding crowd

[Adiba]

@Mahamid Frauded Me, I hope you were kidding when you said Janelle could stay in Robyn and Kody’s basement, because we know there is no way in Hades that would happen. I don’t think  there is any love lost between J and R— they just coexist, imo.

This not a show about polygamy anymore, it’s about the failure of polygamy in this family. Kody is only married to Robyn and has a friendship with Janelle. He barely tolerates Meri as a spiritual wife (in name only—imo, there is nothing spiritual about it) and has an ex, Christine, from whom he is estranged.

[laurakaye]

6 hours ago, LilyD said:

You'd assume with a house as big as the McMansion that it's easy for a sister wife to move in once the oldest 3 leave. If they ever leave... If they stay, Robyn and Kody never have to think of potentially accepting a SW in their own house. Now that is convenient.

Ah, I think you've uncovered Robyn's Stealth Plot, Chapter 12.  It makes perfect sense to keep the oldest three captive home because then, there's simply no room for anyone else to move in....kind of like how she's kept Airabelliobla sleeping in her and Kodork's room and partying until 3 every morning - it's a convenient way to shut down the baby machine.

Is there anyone Robyn won't use for her own diabolical means?

[TurtlePower]

1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

In many parts of the world family members live together their whole lives so I don’t see why this man should be a laughing stock. My husband lived at home ( paying rent) until he was 30 because his dad died and his mom needed his help. My own son is 24 and lives at home because he is just starting out in his career and rents around here are $1400 a month and up. I think there are right and wrong reasons for living at home as an adult.

This. Nowadays with rent being as high as it is in many places, it’s unaffordable for many people. There’s no shame in living with one’s parents, unless one is a lazy freeloader who doesn’t help around the house.

And as you said, in many cultures, this is normal. Only in recent history has it somehow become disgraceful to be living with one’s parents longer than is socially “acceptable”. 

[Cetacean]

6 hours ago, LilyD said:

She thinks she's doing an amazing job but in truth, her son is the laughing stock of the family and the neighbourhood.

Well, then I guess I was the laughing stock of my neighborhood although I was not aware of that.  My parents graciously allowed me to stay until I was 30 at which time I had saved enought to purchase my own home outright.  My father, especially, thought that was fiscally responsible as I was not wasting money on rent.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

I have no problem with younger adults living at home, I grew up in an area where you pretty much lived at home until you were married, or if you had at least 3 friends to rent someplace together because rents were very expensive, my problem is that I find Kody hypocritical because he feels that you should kick your kids out at 18, sure some 18 year old's maybe ready some may not be. He wanted Janelle to kick out her son's but yet Robyn's kids could stay. I know he mentioned it was because of their social life, but he had the nanny and husband in and out of their house 

[deirdra]

2 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

 I find Kody hypocritical because he feels that you should kick your kids out at 18, sure some 18 year old's maybe ready some may not be. He wanted Janelle to kick out her son's but yet Robyn's kids could stay. 

And it was the middle of a pandemic.  Landlords were probably charging extra for cleaning between tenants. Since Gabe's GF had her own apartment, Kootie would have pushed Gabe to shack up, which goes against what he claims are his religious beliefs, so he was doubly hypocritical.

Edited March 16, 2022 by deirdra

[xwordfanatik]

As long as Robyn can keep her kids in her house, that's what she'll do.  They were told from jump to suck up to Kootie, and to seek his approval in every which way.  I fill adult children should get jobs, or at least help with the household chores.  Her kids seemingly do nothing, unless it's maybe online classes.  

Telling Janelle to kick out her sons was Kootie being pissed that they're on to him and also that he does whatever RobChyn tells him to do.  For once, Janelle stood her ground and said no.  Even Janelle, as much as she seems to love that buffoon, realizes that her kids' needs come first.  Why should she tell her sons to leave, when she probably only sees Kootie when it suits him?  FTS.

[LilyD]

4 hours ago, TurtlePower said:

This. Nowadays with rent being as high as it is in many places, it’s unaffordable for many people. There’s no shame in living with one’s parents, unless one is a lazy freeloader who doesn’t help around the house.

Which is what I meant with my original post. I talked about a normal, healthy 38-year-old, who uses his mom as a free hotel and has no intention to move out because running his own household (cooking, washing) is too much work beside his fulltime job. And that in particular makes this mom with three kids, a fulltime job and a barn full of animals roll her eyes (hence the laughing stock reference)
@Madding crowd I hope this clarifies my point. I wasn’t referring to all young adults who are stuck at home because of the housing market or for another good reason. You were right in pointing that out because that’s the sad reality in this world.

[Kellyee]

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Telling Janelle to kick out her sons was Kootie being pissed that they're on to him and also that he does whatever RobChyn tells him to do.  For once, Janelle stood her ground and said no.  Even Janelle, as much as she seems to love that buffoon, realizes that her kids' needs come first.  Why should she tell her sons to leave, when she probably only sees Kootie when it suits him?  FTS.

I didn't think that situation really had anything to do with Robyn. What that situation said to me was that Janelle and Kody had never worked together to parent their children. They were incapable of working together to set boundaries and rules and expectations, and I think that's because Kody has never really been the second parent for Janelle's kids. Janelle was a single mom with Christine to help. Years have passed with that arrangement, and now Kody walks in and wants to start parenting. Except his version of parenting involves no compromise or actual negotiation. He was right about his concern for Janelle catching Covid because her sons demanded to socialize, but the way he handled it was awful, and his absence for most of their lives in a real parenting role meant he had no right to speak up now. 

As Kody pointed out, he can't kick his sons out of Janelle's house because his name isn't even on Janelle's lease. 

Janelle's parenting wasn't so stellar either though. It's clear those boys do whatever they want and walk all over her, while probably living rent free in her home. The way Gabe spoke to her made me cringe several times. There are some maturity issues there. 

 

 

 

[xwordfanatik]

Maybe my post wasn't very clear.  I agree that RobChyn didn't direct Kootie to kick his sons out.  What I meant was she controls Kootie in other ways.  He had to ask her if King Sol and Princess Ari could go to the cookout.  I think you are right too about Janelle and Christine doing the child rearing as co-parents, without Kootie doing much of anything in that regard.  His sons Gabe and Garrison don't respect him, because he had little to do with them, and instead focused himself on RobChyn's five kids.  Janelle has been said to be lax with the kids discipline-wise.  

 

[deirdra]

7 hours ago, Kellyee said:

Janelle and Kody had never worked together to parent their children. They were incapable of working together to set boundaries and rules and expectations, and I think that's because Kody has never really been the second parent for Janelle's kids. 

And that is really pathetic because he probably spent more time with Janelle's boys than any of the other non-Robyn's kids, since they were into wrestling, which made Kootie feel more like a manly man.  When he had that outing with just the girls to show what a great father he was (traveling and doing things paid for by TLC) it was clear that he didn't know what his daughters liked or aspired to at all.  To him, being a father is to be adored by his spawn.

Edited March 17, 2022 by deirdra

[LilyD]

I think Kody was the fun dad; he was around for the fun or interesting things but not so much for the tedious every day kind of stuff. He couldn’t even watch (some of) the kids alone without the help of Aspyn or Logan.
In one of the very first episodes either Janelle or Christine said that he’d always come round to tuck the kids in. So he obviously wasn’t around for homework, bath time, brushing their teeth or story time. As I said, the fun and easy things and definitely not the nasty things like discipling them or simple parenting.

[ginger90]

[LilyD]

Good for you Janelle! Have some great quality time with your family: people who truly care about you and appreciate you being there. And Kody is absent….. again.