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When did Jason find out that Robin saved him? They could have at least had Robin mention that they escaped the clinic together.

I thought Scrubs reunited on Christmas?Did I misunderstand?

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LALALALALALALA!!!!! I can't heeeeeear you!

 

I don't care. Because Jason wasn't the serial killing 'roided up Borg when he was initially with Robin. He wasn't moobster's henchman when he was with her. That happened after they broke up. See? It was losing Robin that set him on that path.

 

And at that time, he was being True to the oblivious stupid ass self when Robin left after telling AJ about Michael.  

 

Jason already "knows" that he was a killer for Sonny, the MOBSTER.

 

I will not let my joy be diminsished!

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I think it's okay for Michael to be mad at Sabrina for lying.  It's a pretty significant lie.  Sonny walking away from AJ's murder and Liz not paying for her lie doesn't make what Sabrina did any less heinous. 

I don't know why the writers decided to go with Sabrina's character assassination instead of hiding TeCa behind a purse or a potted plant for her pregnancy. 

I also don't know why Kristina needs a "messing up at school" storyline.  Leave her at college.

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The writers don't care about Lucky? They sure as hell cared about him when JJ came back. He got so many stories, a new love interest and monologue after monologue that it was insane. Even now he's protected from the dead beat dad label.

 

This!  RC retconned that Lucky was Skyping with the boys, when in 2013 Liz told Nik she had NOT heard from Lucky since he left town!  Nik is the one that stated Lucky went from Ireland to help out poor orphans in Africa.

Did you see how they wrote Lucky out last time? Brings dead Jake back (gets basically no credit for it) and peaces out without a goodbye to his kids. And says that Jason is much better suited to his kids than him. So No I dont think they care about Lucky.

 

There wasn't enough time due to the tongue bath between Luke and Lucky on Cassadine Island!

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I thought the JnR scenes were beautiful. KMc played it perfectly. And BM looked so engaged and Jason was truly touched. I loved when he said "I chose that life over you? What an idiot." Isn't that what he said in '96 when he found out Jason Q. didn't do anything about his crush on Robin? The flashback was so sweet. I will forever love Jason and Robin, and to me, that was a true love story that was deep and meaningful and there's a reason why it's still on our screens 20 years later.

I don't give a flying fuckity fuck about Patrick. He can go cry over Danny now and his perfect lost family and leave Robin the hell alone. I'm completely over this show continuing to act like Samtrick was this unforgettable family while Patrick needs to be convinced by Maxie to give a flying fuck about Robin. JT was completely checked out in those scenes. He looked like he had jetlag. Oh, wait, he probably did.

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Liz still loves Lucky?! She has a real funny way of showing that! 

 

And we are reminded yet again just how fucking dumb it is for Lucky to be away with his 'darkness' right now. Recast already! JJ is never going to come back!

 

Liz has yet to bad mouth Lucky since he ran off in 2011 to look for rocks in Ireland.  Like it or not, Liz will always love Lucky and she is in love with Jason.

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If I didn't know KMcC wasn't staying and that JT was leaving, I would totally assume Robin was back and that Patrick/Robin/Jason/Sam love quad of SHIT was going to happen. Because Robin looked like a lovesick teenager today with Jason and coupled with yesterday's ridiculous Sam/Patrick "didn't we already do this scene?" while Robin looked and acted like an interloper in their great love story.

These writers are stupid. They can't do SHIT right.

Both sets of ""goodbyes" were longer and had more depth than anything Scrubs have gotten. It makes it feel weird.
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I can't stop laughing.

"But truthfully, I didn't try to find her. I didn't try to connect with her. I was too busy moving on with my life while she was in captivity. I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive myself for that."

He said this like he accidentally left the milk on the counter. THIS is the love of Robin's life? FML. Where's Michael Sutton when you need him? Give me Stone lookalike please.

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The Squealing you herd we teen me. Maybe it was because I went down memory lane and thought of some of my favorite JnR moments after all the JnR talk last night.

KMc brought the emotions and I bought it all. This is what I was expecting and have been waiting for. These asshats should have been doing the same type of emotional scenes with Anna, Robert Mac and Patrick instead of the superficial plot points.

ETA : I'll take a Stone look a like. I've never believed Patrick was the love of Robin's life.

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The Squealing you herd we teen me. Maybe it was because I went down memory lane and thought of some of my favorite JnR moments after all the JnR talk last night.

KMc brought the emotions and I bought it all. This is what I was expecting and have been waiting for. These asshats should have been doing the same type of emotional scenes with Anna, Robert Mac and Patrick instead of the superficial plot points.

Patrick's too busy crying over Sam and crying over Danny's handprint to give a crap.

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The Squealing you herd we teen me. Maybe it was because I went down memory lane and thought of some of my favorite JnR moments after all the JnR talk last night.

KMc brought the emotions and I bought it all. This is what I was expecting and have been waiting for. These asshats should have been doing the same type of emotional scenes with Anna, Robert Mac and Patrick instead of the superficial plot points.

ETA : I'll take a Stone look a like. I've never believed Patrick was the love of Robin's life.

 

Hah! I've just gone down the rabbit hole! I am watching Jason and Robin clips from 1996 and beyond!

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I've never believed Patrick was the love of Robin's life.

Unfortunately, I think he is, and that's why these past two episodes have been shameful. The writers want to give Scrubs an ending together but are too busy trying to showcase Samtrick and their family (that had maybe 2-3 scenes) as a deep bond that was broken because those interlopers, Jason and Robin, decided to show up.

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In defense of Patrick, if he didn't have feelings of sadness of remorse over Sam and Danny after being a "family" for over a year, he'd be bashed for that, too.

So, either way, the character cannot win. He is either showing too much caring and attention for one person, or not enough. Personally, I see the whole Robin and Patrick thing as Robin ultimately chose Jason over Patrick, and Patrick don't owe her jack diddly.

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Wait, what?

 

I'm going to need more information because this flat out does not compute.

 

He told Dante if he spent half as much energy making an effort to getting back Lulu as he did into rationalizing why it can't work out he would get her back.

 

Of course he mostly said it to distract Dante from questioning him about a gunman, heh. He was like, "we should be talking about you."

 

I wish Valerie's bangs had debuted before the Selena Gomez cover video because now when I see them that's what I think about.

 

Poor Jason when Robin said that the bridge was where she fell in love with him. You know he wanted to run and wonder how many tiny brunettes he dated lol.

 

Paul: I'll call ya later.

Dillon: MAXIE WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP ME RUINING MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY DAD. I'd say "calm down" but he sounded monotone.

 

The Kiki/Morgan crap was super pointless.

 

Geez, random cop extra, you could sound a little more excited that hot Curtis is friends with you.

 

Lulu is stupid for even considering reconciling with Dante right now and I don't buy that she would doing so either.

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Patrick is too busy crying over his pain. Sam and Danny are just theater excuse he has to be all me me me. As for Robin and Jason today not once did I feel like Robin still had romantic feelings for him.

Robin doesn't have romantic feelings for Jason anymore. Hasn't in more than a decade.

Personally, I see the whole Robin and Patrick thing as Robin ultimately chose Jason over Patrick, and Patrick don't owe her jack diddly.

She made the right choice.

Poor Jason when Robin said that the bridge was where she fell in love with him. You know he wanted to run and wonder how many tiny brunettes he dated lol.

LMAO! I thought the same thing.

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Patrick is too busy crying over his pain. Sam and Danny are just theater excuse he has to be all me me me. As for Robin and Jason today not once did I feel like Robin still had romantic feelings for him.

I'm actually referring to the fact that Robin stayed and worked on bringing Jason back to life, rather than taking the chance to leave the compound and continue her life with her husband and daughter. She didn't just choose Jason over Patrick, she chose Jason over Emma and Patrick.

I can remember many people being upset over it at the time. I'm not sure Patrick even knows all the details, but if I were him, and I knew everything that went down, I'm not sure if I would just happily take her back. But, that's me. The idea that my husband would rather play Dr Frankenstein to bring back an old love, than be with me? That would likely be a deal breaker.

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Robin was threatened and blackmailed to save Jason. And couldn't leave because Victor threatened her family. But also wanted to save Jason because she didn't want him to die. So if Patrick wanted her to leave Jason to remain in a frozen capsule and die, than she shouldn't want to be with him either.

The Scrubs reunion is very bizarre and makes me feel nothing but boredom, confusion, and nausea.

After what aired last week, the behavior these past two episodes makes no sense. They don't even act like they want to be together.

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He told Dante if he spent half as much energy making an effort to getting back Lulu as he did into rationalizing why it can't work out he would get her back.

 

Of course he mostly said it to distract Dante from questioning him about a gunman, heh. He was like, "we should be talking about you."

 

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Lulu is stupid for even considering reconciling with Dante right now and I don't buy that she would doing so either.

 

Well.

 

What Sonny said was true. And also, I absolutely believe your explanation as to WHY he said it. Deflection! Shazam!

 

And I agree that Lulu considering a reconciliation with Dante at this point is stooopid. What's funnier is that Valerie (based on recaps) seems to have wised up that Dante isn't exactly whole-heartedly into their... whatever it is. The thing is, even if Val is suddenly gone, that doesn't erase the damage. "Oh, your slam-piece is gone so now you want to deal with me and discuss our marriage? This feels good."

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Robin was threatened and blackmailed to save Jason. And couldn't leave because Victor threatened her family. But also wanted to save Jason because she didn't want him to die. So if Patrick wanted her to leave Jason to remain in a frozen capsule and die, than she shouldn't want to be with him either.

After what aired last week, the behavior these past two episodes makes no sense. They don't even act like they want to be together.

 

 

At one point-and I don't remember during which point, Robin had the choice to leave, and chose not to. This is at least a few years ago that I'm thinking of, since Jason has already been alive now over a year. If I'm remembering wrong, mea culpa, but I could have sworn at one point, it was her choice to stay. Of course later it was changed to her being kept captive with no means of escape. And perhaps I'm remembering wrong. I find everything about Robin to be so boring that I tend to forget it as soon as it's happened, so that's entirely possible.

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At one point-and I don't remember during which point, Robin had the choice to leave, and chose not to. This is at least a few years ago that I'm thinking of, since Jason has already been alive now over a year. If I'm remembering wrong, mea culpa, but I could have sworn at one point, it was her choice to stay. Of course later it was changed to her being kept captive with no means of escape. And perhaps I'm remembering wrong. I find everything about Robin to be so boring that I tend to forget it as soon as it's happened, so that's entirely possible.

Robin never had the choice to leave.

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And I agree that Lulu considering a reconciliation with Dante at this point is stooopid. What's funnier is that Valerie (based on recaps) seems to have wised up that Dante isn't exactly whole-heartedly into their... whatever it is. The thing is, even if Val is suddenly gone, that doesn't erase the damage. "Oh, your slam-piece is gone so now you want to deal with me and discuss our marriage? This feels good."

 

Romance!

 

He was actually working up on telling her he wanted to see where stuff with Lulu was going, in his usual passive-aggressive way these days, and she took the hint and said she was bowing out.

 

What's weird was they made a date for New Year's last week and today Valerie is like "we haven't seen each other since before Christmas! What's going on!" er, well it's been less than a week and you both confirmed a date for New Years? This story in not only crap because of the story in and of itself but because they don't appear to remember what's happening from scene to scene with them.

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I'm almost certain that Val bowing out *gracefully* is just an act. I don't trust the sidepiece even a little. 

 

Valerie's annoying, but she's never done more than passive-aggressively sidle up to Dante. If she does it again he needs to actually stand up and say "sorry Valerie, but I don't think we can be friends right now." But he probably won't, because blah blah he likes her, blah blah orphan, blah blah mean old Lulu sicced Johnny on her.

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After what aired last week, the behavior these past two episodes makes no sense. They don't even act like they want to be together.

I know. Patrick said ILY and they were making out on Christmas. I honestly thought they were back together. Apparently a week has passed and Robin and Anna never talked since Anna was trying to matchmake? They aren't back together and Patrick's unsure again?He doesn't know how Robin feels even though she told him. Confusing. Edited by Evie
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The Scrubs reunion is very bizarre and makes me feel nothing but boredom, confusion, and nausea.

Lol, at this point, as a Scrubs fan, I approve this message.

ScorpiosRule, I loved that bridge. Luke with Robin, helping Stone to bungee jump still gives me the feels. I wanted Robin to let Jason know he rebuilt the bridge for her, lol.

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I know. Patrick said ILY and they were making out on Christmas. I honestly thought they were back together. Apparently a week has passed and Robin and Anna never talked since Anna was trying to matchmake? They aren't back together and Patrick's unsure again?He doesn't know how Robin feels even though she told him. Confusing.

Yep. It doesn't add up. They have Patrick tell Robin he never stopped loving her. And now you have him saying he doesn't want to push her into a reunion, a lot of time passed, and he doesn't want to lose her again? Which would make sense....if they didn't have last week's scenes.

And honestly, I wouldn't even mind it now if, say, he was looking at old pictures of him and Robin at the beginning of the episodes...show that he's reminiscing and missing THAT.

But nope. More time on Samtrick. More time on Danny. More sad faces over that. Like, show, if you want Patrick leaving cause he's sad over Sam, do it. Why do this Scrubs reunion? It's baffling.

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Imagine your favorite couple is reuniting and leaving the show. For one reason or another they've spent months, or years, apart. You know their time is limited. You'd like their every scene to be about them. Instead the show has them tossed together at the last minute AND has to feature yet another touching goodbye between one half of the couple and their recent love interest. This same two people who said goodbye less than a month ago. Not a Scrubs fangirl but I get the disappointment and the annoyance. 

 

Years ago, I was a Clark and Lois Smallville shipper. Before they really started, they had Lana and Clark breakup due to some stupid magical thing and not because it was really over. I remember being pissed and just flat out wanting Lois away from Clark. So, I understand what it is like to have your couple end up together but really not end up together. You know! 

Anyways, I never once blamed Lana. I put the blame out on the writers and on Clark. He is the one who needed it to end cleanly and not because of some stupid other thing that forced him/her.

 

However, majority here has been blaming Samtrick when they should rightfully blame those idiot writers and Patrick. He was the one in relationship with Robin not Sam. If he is making it seem like Robin is second choice than that is on him.

 

People were like why didn't Sam thank Robin or say something? I ask those people these questions:

Why didn't she really give it Liz, Laura, or Nik? Why didn't she look for her husband's remains when Patrick told her Jason was once saved by Robin? Why didn't Sam an investigator look more into the details regarding Jason? Why didn't Sam do anything during this reveal besides cry about Jason being alive?

Simple, this would mean Sam is actually part of the Jason storyline instead of being on the sidelines. It is all about Liz and how she has suffered. 

Another person said why did Sam drop the gift earlier?  She tried when she ran into Liz at the hospital and found out Patrick left the country. She thought since she has a keys she would drop it at his house now since she got busy that night. 

 

Honestly, Scrubs being rushed is no ones fault but the writers not another couples or characters. The writers. 

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ScorpiosRule, I loved that bridge. Luke with Robin, helping Stone to bungee jump still gives me the feels. I wanted Robin to let Jason know he rebuilt the bridge for her, lol.

 

Oh sigh....

 

Yes, I've gone through this, Jason's aborted first kiss attempt, to their second kiss, to Montauk...The sheer joy and want in Jason's/Steve's eyes and face during this time...didn't Steve later say he had a crush on Kimberly when Jason and Robin got together? And Hee, for Jason, again calling himself an idiot, or liking that Jason Quartermaine did something wrong when he broke Robin's heart, when she had a massive crush on him. Him asking Robin, what was wrong with him that he didn't return her feelings!

 

Man, when this soap was good, it was good!

 

Shaddup all ye naysayers!

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Poor Jason when Robin said that the bridge was where she fell in love with him. You know he wanted to run and wonder how many tiny brunettes he dated lol.

He certainly has a type. 

 

I never understood Robins hero worship of Jason. Sam, as much as I hate it, I can understand her devotion to Jason but Robin. *shrugs* IDK. 

 

Robin/Stone >>>>> any other pairing of hers. 

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Robin/Stone >>>>> any other pairing of hers. 

 

Naturally! But their love was cut so tragically short. Jason and Robin come second, and Paddy last.  At least with Stone and Jason, no one was telling Robin how "lucky" she should feel that someone as hot as Stone or Jason wanted her. 

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Honestly, Scrubs being rushed is no ones fault but the writers not another couples or characters. The writers.

I do blame the writers. There's no one else to blame? They write the story, the characters, the couples. And I don't get the choice to have Patrick and Robin reunite if they don't want to give it 100% of the dialogue it needs, if they're still showing Patrick as feeling whatever feeling over Samtrick and Danny. It doesn't make sense to me. Why is it so hard for them to just END that story? You'd think they have been together for years. Patrick is leaving in a few episodes. Why not focus on what you're giving the HEA to? I just think it's not rocket science. It shouldn't be this hard.

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Years ago, I was a Clark and Lois Smallville shipper. Before they really started, they had Lana and Clark breakup due to some stupid magical thing and not because it was really over. I remember being pissed and just flat out wanting Lois away from Clark. So, I understand what it is like to have your couple end up together but really not end up together. You know! 

Anyways, I never once blamed Lana. I put the blame out on the writers and on Clark. He is the one who needed it to end cleanly and not because of some stupid other thing that forced him/her.

 

However, majority here has been blaming Samtrick when they should rightfully blame those idiot writers and Patrick. He was the one in relationship with Robin not Sam. If he is making it seem like Robin is second choice than that is on him.

 

People were like why didn't Sam thank Robin or say something? I ask those people these questions:

Why didn't she really give it Liz, Laura, or Nik? Why didn't she look for her husband's remains when Patrick told her Jason was once saved by Robin? Why didn't Sam an investigator look more into the details regarding Jason? Why didn't Sam do anything during this reveal besides cry about Jason being alive?

Simple, this would mean Sam is actually part of the Jason storyline instead of being on the sidelines. It is all about Liz and how she has suffered. 

Another person said why did Sam drop the gift earlier?  She tried when she ran into Liz at the hospital and found out Patrick left the country. She thought since she has a keys she would drop it at his house now since she got busy that night. 

 

Honestly, Scrubs being rushed is no ones fault but the writers not another couples or characters. The writers. 

Of course the rushed reunion is on the writers, but they need to stop putting all the focus on Samtrick, and actually put it on scrubs. Don't have Patrick pining from Sam and their "family" while trying to sell this as a Scrubs reunion. JT only has so many days left, and they have spent more time on Patrick loving and missing Sam, then anything else. Just stop putting Sam above Robin in this story.

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Since when does Dillon have a brother?

 

Damm, SBu really tried to act during the JnR days. I wonder why he stopped trying.

 

I think since like 1996? Something like that. Jenny Eckert had his son ( . . . right? I think.)

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I don't blame the writers, because the writers don't decide the dates an actor is available, or the date an actor has to leave. They're constricted by things they cannot control. They have to wrap up SL's, sometimes with just a few weeks notice.

 

And Sam and Patrick haven't been together for YEARS, but they HAVE been together for over a year. Again, to ignore it would be ridiculous and just make Patrick look like an even bigger douche.  Robin gets to moon over Jason(ugh). Patrick should get to have emotions over Sam.

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At least with Stone and Jason, no one was telling Robin how "lucky" she should feel that someone as hot as Stone or Jason wanted her.

 

We were thinking of the same thing at the same time. Robin has been very low on the totem pole of the under-50 GH women ever since she came back. I mean...try to imagine a scene in which Sam is having problems with the guy she's seeing, and Alexis tells her, more or less, that the guy is an amazing catch and she's plain, and she's not likely to do better. Didn't we have that scene with Robin and Anna re: Patrick?

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Since when does Dillon have a brother?

 

Since always. We actually saw his birth onscreen. Paul and Jenny had already married and left the show for a few years. Ned received a phone call that his wife was in the hospital and he thought it was his estranged wife Lois whom he was trying to get back together with. It was actually Jenny. Both Ned and Lois were present went Jenny gave birth to a boy. I think he was named Paul Jr.

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I don't blame the writers, because the writers don't decide the dates an actor is available, or the date an actor has to leave. They're constricted by things they cannot control. They have to wrap up SL's, sometimes with just a few weeks notice.

 

And Sam and Patrick haven't been together for YEARS, but they HAVE been together for over a year. Again, to ignore it would be ridiculous and just make Patrick look like an even bigger douche.  Robin gets to moon over Jason(ugh). Patrick should get to have emotions over Sam.

They didn't ignore it though. Samtrick scenes should have ended when they broke up 2 weeks ago. Patrick should be 100 percent focused on Robin now, and how much he missed her, and how happy he is to have her back. Instead, he's spending most of his time sulking over losing Sam and Danny. It was totally unnecessary to have those scenes yesterday, and then again emphasize how much he misses them again today. The focus should not be on Samtrick, but on Scrubs. 

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I don't blame the writers, because the writers don't decide the dates an actor is available, or the date an actor has to leave. They're constricted by things they cannot control. They have to wrap up SL's, sometimes with just a few weeks notice.

And Sam and Patrick haven't been together for YEARS, but they HAVE been together for over a year. Again, to ignore it would be ridiculous and just make Patrick look like an even bigger douche. Robin gets to moon over Jason(ugh). Patrick should get to have emotions over Sam.

It's not about timing for me. It's about dialogue. It's about the characters' actions.

Patrick and Sam started dating in January. It hadn't even been a year yet.

I'm not saying the show should ignore it. I'm saying they should end it. I'm saying Patrick should not still be wistfully looking at Danny's handprint when he's leaving this show next week. The show wants to have their cake and eat it too. I don't want a half-assed Scrubs reunion. If they wanted Patrick to be sad about Sam till the end, they could have easily done that.

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We were thinking of the same thing at the same time. Robin has been very low on the totem pole of the under-50 GH women ever since she came back. I mean...try to imagine a scene in which Sam is having problems with the guy she's seeing, and Alexis tells her, more or less, that the guy is an amazing catch and she's plain, and she's not likely to do better. Didn't we have that scene with Robin and Anna re: Patrick?

 

 

That was Pod!Anna! Just like the 2006 monkey virus was Pod!Robert! and Pod!Holly! As if RobertFucking!Scorpio would accuse his darling Robin of being frigid! Gack! Must bleach out those scenes!!!

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I don't know why Ric is MIA in all this. Finding out that Liz has sunk to his level of lying and trickery.

 

Fucking seriously. I mean Liz broke up with Ric over his lies and now she tells the biggest whopper of a lie and has no man right now and Ric's no where to be found. I don't buy it. He would be on that shit so fast!

 

J&R have their last conversation and it's the same old shit. She waxes poetically about how amazing he was. She tells him was a great person. She lets him believe all these flat out ridiculous things about himself, their relationship and their breakup, always spin spin spinning to make him look flawless.

 

It's so aggravating to see person after person hero worship Jason, but it's like triply annoying when it's Robin.

 

I also don't know why Kristina needs a "messing up at school" storyline.  Leave her at college.

 

Yea, this story is dumb. (What a surprise!) The fact that it's getting like 30 seconds of screen time every 2 weeks doesn't help. Like where is this going? And does anyone actually care? Honestly unless Kristina is gonna stop kissing Sonny's ass and/or fuck Johnny or Ethan, then idgaf about her.

 

Dillon: MAXIE WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP ME RUINING MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY DAD.

This cracked me up. Like what even lol!

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Since always. We actually saw his birth onscreen. Paul and Jenny had already married and left the show for a few years. Ned received a phone call that his wife was in the hospital and he thought it was his estranged wife Lois whom he was trying to get back together with. It was actually Jenny. Both Ned and Lois were present went Jenny gave birth to a boy. I think he was named Paul Jr.

I'm sure there's a clip on YT somewhere. Seeing Jenny's raggedy face again was not a pleasant surprise for me, but for some reason, I was thinking they never mentioned a name for the kid, and people have just assumed he's Paul Jr.

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