jsbt February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) I just think that Michael going after a baby prematurely ages his character. It's like so many other twentysomething characters Ron does this to, but most of them are female - they magically become obsessed with babies. I guarantee sooner or later Michael will be all, "I have come to love this infant like my own." Michael can barely shave, but that's how it always plays on this show: enterprising young women who used to have careers and dudes who are either just dudes or goal-driven types, like Dante or Morgan or whoever, suddenly are obsessed with breeding. I'm not saying that men and women alike can't have their feelings profoundly changed by a new life, I know they do. But I find the way that Ron constantly has so much of his young cast become domestic and practically middle-aged in the face of a baby to be reductive and antiquated. Edited February 17, 2015 by thewhiteowl Deleted OLTL stuff 3 Link to comment
Francie February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 but RC is going to write whatever works for the daily plot him. Modified that. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 But I find the way that Ron constantly has so much of his young cast become domestic and practically middle-aged in the face of a baby to be reductive and antiquated. And meanwhile, the older end of the canvas is getting the sexy shenanigans, steamy affairs, regrettable one-night stands that should be taking up the twenty-something's time. 4 Link to comment
Harmony233 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 And meanwhile, the older end of the canvas is getting the sexy shenanigans, steamy affairs, regrettable one-night stands that should be taking up the twenty-something's time. IA just don't get the writing for the 20s set. Link to comment
jsbt February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) Well, the reverse end of that is that sure, it is great to see the older characters acknowledged as sexual beings with romantic drama of their own. The problem is that his approach to that material has degraded over time. I want them to be active, vibrant characters but I don't want them to be reduced to sitcom antics. Too often they simply stick vets like Alexis, Ned, even Lucy and Bobbie, etc. into these goofy, immature little subplots where they all behave like petulant teenagers, catfighting or backbiting or mean mugging at each other because someone made eyes at their man. It's fun the first couple times you see a scene like that but by now it's become rote - 'make vets act like high schoolers for Subplot B.' And they know the soap press will automatically reward them for using the actors, and then the doublethink towards any criticism becomes, 'are you saying these veteran characters aren't as vital and active and sexual as the youngsters? Ageism! Brian Frons!' And that's not it. The issue is not that they're being used, it's how they're used. But we're not supposed to look at that, we're just supposed to be glad they're there at all. That defense might've worked two or three years ago, it's less effective now. Edited February 17, 2015 by thewhiteowl Deleted Off Topic stuff 5 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) It's a lack of balance, as is always Ron's problem. The older set absolutely should be more than talk-tos their kids. But what does it say that the most stable marriage on canvas is Dante and Lulu's*? * unless you count the completely invisible Mac and Felicia. Edited February 17, 2015 by TeeVee329 2 Link to comment
dubbel zout February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Avery is the child that was conceived on the GRAVE of the man that Sonny and Ava teamed up to MURDER. As messed up as this story is, I'm glad this part of it is basically being ignored, i.e., no one hates Avery because of the circumstances of her conception. That's not to say it won't come up when she's SORASed in three years, but at least for now, the fight over her is for revenge/power, not because someone can't stand how she came into being. I find the way that Ron constantly has so much of his young cast become domestic and practically middle-aged in the face of a baby to be reductive and antiquated. Ron loves him some baby rabies. I think he over relies on it because he's at heart a lazy writer, and the stories need little attention to keep going. Link to comment
Artsda February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 B/c he had the whole production of drawing up papers to legally change his name back to Quartermaine so it seems like to the court it would be pretty clear he is renouncing his relationship to the Corinthos family. If he wasn't adopted he couldn't do that. He can't wash his hands of blood relation but he can wash his hands of non-blood relation. Being no blood relation to Avery would make a difference in court because of the second part of the sentence you half quoted. Being her adopted brother who renounced the family. If he was her adopted brother it wouldn't make a difference but b/c he renounced ties to her family it does. Exactly, he's been telling everyone in town that "Sonny" is not his father, AJ was his father, Sonny is nothing. So now Michael will have to go in court and to claim Avery as his sister admit that Sonny IS his father. He can't pick and choose which of Sonny's relatives he's related to in court. If he's going to declare himself nothing to Sonny, then Avery has no family relation to him. Kiki needs to stand up and join forces with Michael. I don't care what their reasons, just take the baby from him. Sonny is an awful parent. The baby shouldn't even have Corinthos as it's last name, who gave Avery THAT name? Ava named her, wouldn't she be when they filled out the birth certificate Avery Jerome? So Alexis couldn't control herself long enough to break up with Ned before she starts slobbering all over Julian. Rude. Alexis can never control herself, especially when it comes to a mobster. 1 Link to comment
Fylaki February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Ron loves him some baby rabies. I think he over relies on it because he's at heart a lazy writer, and the stories need little attention to keep going. And therein is the problem, have we gone a month since Ron came on without a baby story? Now we have two and the Lulu embryo out there in the wings, or worse in Robin 1 Link to comment
Bishop February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) Do I think Michael's motives are altruistic and due to concern for Avery? No. Do I still think Avery would be better off with Michael? Yes. Michael might not have shown any interest in her but if he actually won custody, he would hardly mistreat her or not love her. This is how I feel too. RC is clearly going for a redux of history, which CAN be an interesting story if done correctly. I think people are harping on "poor Avery" being used as a pawn, which is true, but no one is ever going to convince me either that being raised by Sonny, Carly, or Ava is a good thing for that little girl. I can see Michael falling for that baby girl and maybe even realizing that he doesn't want to spiral into anger and revenge and choose to just drop kick Sonny and Carly for ever. Right now, he can't see anything but that they got away with all their crimes, and they did. It was a bit unnerving, frankly, to watch the murderer Sonny and his accomplice "cover-upper" Carly sip wine and sprawl out in front of a raging fire, kissing and enjoying the new little one in their lives where one essentially murdered an innocent man and the other helped cover it all up. There should be consequences, and the best poetic justice I can think of is to have someone (in this case Michael) take THEIR child away from them simply because someone felt they were not good parent material. Let that child grow up to love the other parent and hate them. Granted, I don't see Michael teaching Avery to hate Sonny. I think part of him genuinely wants to protect her, since he knows first hand what happens to children raised by Sonny and Carly, but I'm not naive to think that part of him also wants to hurt Sonny and Carly. I can't wait to hear Carly's hypocrisy as to why Michael has no right to take a child away from its father. Didn't she do that twice with two different babies (Michael and Spencer)? I am still confused as to why Michael was going on and on about going after Sonny's businesses and then we got the custody reveal. So was Michael's plan always to use Avery to get Sonny to give up his businesses or did he have another plan, but then spontaneously decided after the Alexis/Kiki phone call that he would go after Avery? I guess we'll find out today. I think it was RC just thinks he's being cute. He spent the whole episode letting the audience believe Michael was going after the businesses, and then had Kiki talking to Franco about custody rights, and then this COMPLETE 180. Let's hope it looks better than it sounds. I just don't want Sonny and Carly being the poor, helpless victims of mean old Michael. Considering that ALL of Sonny's kids have had violence visited upon them, Michael wanting Avery is probably the best thing for her. Say what you want about Michael, but he's got a good heart. Kiki needs to stand up and join forces with Michael. I don't care what their reasons, just take the baby from him. Sonny is an awful parent. The baby shouldn't even have Corinthos as it's last name, who gave Avery THAT name? Ava named her, wouldn't she be when they filled out the birth certificate Avery Jerome? No, I don't want Kiki anywhere near this baby or Michael. She's too stupid. The girl thought that a serial killer and the guy who got her boyfriend raped was just misunderstood, and she sided against Michael over him. She also never knew a thing about her mother or her murderous actions. Kiki also never admits when she screws up or is wrong. She demands that people just thank her for doing the right thing in her mind even though she made everything a disaster. Kiki also refuses to find a job. At least Morgan tried to find work. Kiki is perfectly content being a moocher for life. She betrayed and lied to Michael too many times, she can't be trusted, and she can't survive on her own without someone taking care of her. Edited February 17, 2015 by Bishop 4 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 I can't wait to hear Carly's hypocrisy as to why Michael has no right to take a child away from its father. Didn't she do that twice with two different babies (Michael and Spencer)? Not to mention her numerous attempts to get Sonny to give up his parental rights to Michael and Morgan over the years. Link to comment
Cobalt Stargazer February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Exactly, he's been telling everyone in town that "Sonny" is not his father, AJ was his father, Sonny is nothing. So now Michael will have to go in court and to claim Avery as his sister admit that Sonny IS his father. He can't pick and choose which of Sonny's relatives he's related to in court. If he's going to declare himself nothing to Sonny, then Avery has no family relation to him. Except I don't think that's the way it works. Yes, Michael has renounced Sonny and that is awesome while it lasts, but that doesn't mean he would want no relationship with Avery, who is innocent of the endless barrage of horseshit that Scummy has pulled. I think that Michael should also focus his attention on dismantling Sonny's "coffee empire" while he's at it, but Sonny did raise him, and he can't undo that. I have relatives I never speak to because of reasons, but I'm simultaneously very close with their children and whatnot. You can't pick your family, but you can pick and choose which ones you want to acknowledge at any given time. 5 Link to comment
sunnyface February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Not to mention her numerous attempts to get Sonny to give up his parental rights to Michael and Morgan over the years I don't want to watch any of them. Enough of the Corinthos family hour already! 1 Link to comment
Bishop February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Not to mention her numerous attempts to get Sonny to give up his parental rights to Michael and Morgan over the years. Yep. I'm more anxious for Michael to take revenge against Carly than anyone else, but unfortunately, the story is focused solely on Sonny. So is Michael talking to his mother again? I really hope not. I hope he doesn't take any of her crap today because HE knows better than anyone what his life has been like as a result of her choices. I can hear her now "You had a good life, Michael. You had a happy life with Sonny." The woman is delusional. 3 Link to comment
Harmony233 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 I don't want to watch any of them. Enough of the Corinthos family hour already! I wish we could get some Q's back or even webbers lol.I'm also sick of the corthinthos clan. 3 Link to comment
CPP83 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 I don't want to watch any of them. Enough of the Corinthos family hour already! Amen, amen, amen. I cannot agree with this enough. I cannot stand the lot of them. I don't care if it's Sonny, Morgan, Michael, Carly, whatever. They all are reprehensible creatures of the worst ilk. Michael is the child Carly and Sonny raised, he isn't good or kind or even all that selfless, he's a self centered jerk, just like them. I am so sick and tired of hearing him spouting off about being A.J's "son", as if he's no longer the little rat bastard those two psychos reared. Morgan is really too stupid to live, especially with how he's turned back into the ultimate Sonny ass kisser among his spawns. And Sonny and Carly...they can both be dropped into a vat of acid very, very slowly. I have had almost two decades worth of this family from hell eating this show alive and still it goes on. Still they live to suck up most of the airtime and attention and plots and scripts and...I just want them gone, all gone. I don't care where, I don't care if they go dead or alive, I just want them gone finally, never to return. 2 Link to comment
Artsda February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Everything Michael said today was so spot on. Calling Carly out on her great decision making choosing a mob boss, the kidnappings of the kids, being shot. Carly's such a hypocrite, when Sonny goes off the rails (like when he tried to kill Jax) she went ranting to Alexis how they had to join together to keep the kids from him because he was a danger. She's as vindictive as she's accusing Michael of being, when she's mad at Sonny she'll use the kids as a tool and claim they're in danger. Like wanting Morgan to be adopted by Jax. Like when she showed up at Alexis's and Alexis told her off for enabling Sonny but then wanting to hurt him when he hurts her. 8 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Everything about this Avery custody battle is awful and the show's crystal clear agenda to again make Sonny and Carly the heroes/victims of the story by standing on the shoulders of the Quartermaines (this time, Michael) is sickening. What the fuck, Nikolas? Why exactly are you letting Helena hang around, with your son? And why the hell are Patrick, Liz, and Carly okay with their kids going to a party at Wyndemere with Helena hanging around? Shut up, Luke, you are no Ultron. 6 Link to comment
Bringonthedrama February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 LOL @Carly appearing to want to bite Michael for saying he didn't want Avery to be raised by a murderer. Michael standing his ground with his mother is a thing of beauty. Loved her anger and attempts at protests, in the face of his blatant truths about the death of Lily's baby and his siblings' trauma over the years. Loved him countering that Avery's been with Sonny about 3 days when Carly's all "don't take Avery away from her home." Her going on and on about Sonny's love is just....so vomit-inducing. Loved Michael calling Carly desperate to her face and her looking all sad and defeated. Rolling my eyes at Sonny and Morgan being incredulous that Michael would call him an unfit father in writing. Loved that Avery seemed completely uninterested in Sonny's blah blah blah-ing. Morgan, buy a clue when your Daddy gets pissy at the obvious point that Michael was adopted as a Corinthos (no blood ties to Avery). He's being so very pathetic. Don't you feel stupid, Lulu. TG toned it down today, thankfully. I assume the Helena-Spencer dancing was supposed to seem charming/sweet/cute, but .... FAIL. There is no dimension to Helena, Ron. She's just a monster. Give it up. Spencer is such an obnoxious brat. Yegads and ugh at the four kiddies. They are NOT teenagers, stop trying to make that happen. 8 Link to comment
admiralrodcocker February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) I do not support Michael re: Avery, but Morgan fucking sucks. Have a whole stadium of seats you little shit. Soaps always kill me when it comes to how they view adopted children. They're okay and seen as full family members when things are rosy cosy, but as soon as shit hits the fan and they step out of line, they aren't really real family members anyway because they aren't blood. Fuck you, Morgan. You don't have two brain cells to rub together. The kiddie quad: Spencer needs to be killed off. This cannot be said enough. I don't care if he's a kid. Girl, bye. Joss is the only decent one so she can stay, but only in a an age appropriate way. Cameron's actor sucks. I know he's a kid, but he is painful. They need to AGE Cameron to 13-15. Elizabeth is like 35, so she CAN be a mother to a teen, Ron. Emma needs to be shipped off with Robin. I cannot stand this brat and Patrick never spends time with his daughter anymore anyway. Sick to death of Lulu running around town screeching at everyone. The only good thing about this Fluke crap is more Bobbie. Edited February 17, 2015 by BinkyMimo88 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 The way Carly kept going on about "Sonny's love" made it sound like a disease. Don't take it away! I liked "Tell Sonny I'll see him in court", but "Alice, please escort Ms. Benson off the premises " would be divine. I also love how we had Micheal truth telling like a boss (seriously CD has acting skills) cut with Sonny and forgotten biological son Morgan talking about him like he's The Enemy, while Sonny continues to emotionally pull Morgan's strings. Btw, hitting a door violently like that is not "loving", Sonny. Especially when your new prize, um daughter is in the home. I can't not be on Team Micheal when it seems to be truth telling and cold to Carly. He's the best opponent Carly has ever had because he knows her bullshit and Sonny's. Loved the Jason name drop. Why? Wanna get to Carly, say Jason did the thing she's against. The next logical step is Jason vs CarSon. 9 Link to comment
Lillybee February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Please spare us from this absolutely stupid kiddie squad. 12 Link to comment
dubbel zout February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 So Alexis couldn't control herself long enough to break up with Ned before she starts slobbering all over Julian. Rude. It's not like Ned thinks they still have a chance. He knows it's (finally!) over. I can't get too upset over this. The rude part is Ron making us watch these adults act worse than the 9-year-olds. Link to comment
CPP83 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Good grief, I don't think Ron has any clue what the word "subtle" means. Those kiddies are...tiresome. The way they keep forcing them to throw around words like "love" and "boyfriend" or "girlfriend"... disgusting doesn't even begin to cover it. terrorLuke is...filth. Tony really has a pair of rose coloured glasses on right now. And Ron is just a shitty writer. Tracy needs a hobby and a vacation. Baby Avery is just too cute for words. I love her smile. But of course this episode was filled with so many characters that I hate and loathe and generally wish would fall off the face of the earth so-not a good day for me. 4 Link to comment
ulkis February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 oh God, there are a lot of bad/embarrassing things on GH, but this kid crap is probably the only thing since the vampires that have made me actually mumble outloud "this is so stupid" and look around in embarrassment, even though there's no one around me. One day Spencer will be murdered, and Chandler will be the culprit. Um, what? Now Luke wants power? He's never wanted power. Ever. He's wanted to shun responsibility. This keeps going deeper and deeper into a clusterfuck. Carly: let her grow up loving and adoring Sonny, like you did! Oh, yeah! Great idea Carly! Let her grow up thinking Sonny is perfect and the best dad ever and then having it all ripped out from under her one day when she's old enough to understand. Morgan. Morgan Morgan Morgan. It would actually be interesting if he was trying to manipulate Sonny into hating Michael, but he's not. He's just being a dolt. And I can't believe this, but thank you Sonny for pointing out that Michael is not the only one of his kids to lash out at him in anger. Could Morgan just show one fucking spark of empathy? meh. I need him to get a separate story from Sonny soon. I don't hate him per se but I miss fun Morgan. And I don't mean Sonny hating Morgan per se, just the one that walked around being doofy and wanting to have sex all the time. In what world wouldn't Lulu get on the phone and tell Lucky and Laura to get their asses there NOW? 8 Link to comment
jsbt February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) Morgan never has any empathy for anyone but himself and those who can service his emotional needs. It would be understandable at 14, it's a little less charming after he basically Nice Guyed Kiki into marrying him. Even Kiki didn't deserve that. Then when people assert their autonomy it's all about throwing himself against things, rending his thin, thin garments and turning up the Nickelback! Edited February 17, 2015 by jsbt 4 Link to comment
Blackie February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Those kids really are products of their shitty parents. Too bad Josh couldn't have permanently lived in Australia. Of course they are going to throw around words like "love" when each of there parents have been married or in serious relationships many times. Maybe jax can come and kidnap Baby Avery and take her to Australia away from Sonny and Carly. She is sooooooo cute, get her away from Sonny NOW! Link to comment
HeatLifer February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 I just...omg...everything....wow...I'm gonna go full-on girl today and say... I can't even. 3 Link to comment
ulkis February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 The kiddie quad: Spencer needs to be killed off. This cannot be said enough. I don't care if he's a kid. Girl, bye. It needs to be Chandler who does the deed. 2 Link to comment
Cobalt Stargazer February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Morgan never has any empathy for anyone but himself and those who can service his emotional needs. It would be understandable at 14, it's a little less charming after he basically Nice Guyed Kiki into marrying him. Even Kiki didn't deserve that. Then when people assert their autonomy it's all about throwing himself against things, rending his thin, thin garments and turning up the Nickelback! With respect, jsbt, in Kaka's case "asserting her autonomy" meant lying her gigantic head off about how she loved Morgan and wanted nothing to do with Michael. If Morgan is a bad person for marrying her under false pretenses, she's a worse one IMO for not just being honest in the first damn place. Link to comment
jsbt February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) My point is, whenever anyone stops feeling the way Morgan's feelings need them to feel then they're just being difficult and don't understand how things are. He gets to rage and rave and be the angry young man when the kindergarten wedding he pushed everyone into (knowing full well what was going on) falls apart, or when his dad fucks his girlfriend, but when Michael's father is murdered, Mikey needs to just, like, get over it because Morgan is finished because mad at his dad now. Edited February 17, 2015 by jsbt 8 Link to comment
admiralrodcocker February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 It needs to be Chandler who does the deed. Yup. and he can make it look like an accident. 1 Link to comment
peachmangosteen February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) The way Carly kept going on about "Sonny's love" made it sound like a disease. LMAO! Spot on. I believe she said "Sonny' s love" approximately 400 times. It was so bizarre. Edited February 17, 2015 by peachmangosteen 8 Link to comment
bannana February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 It just seems so obvious to me that Michael should be pursuing a civil suit for wrongful death. Then Sonny gets dragged through the mud again, and he pays bigtime. 8 Link to comment
godfreydaniels February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) Um, what? Now Luke wants power? He's never wanted power. Ever. He's wanted to shun responsibility. This keeps going deeper and deeper into a clusterfuck. Please please please, just kill him off the soap NOW!! HE is not redeemable at this point. He has jumped the shark. Edited February 17, 2015 by godfreydaniels 5 Link to comment
ch1 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 The last time Carly and Michael shared scenes at the Qs Carly came across as a cult member and Sonny is her leader. I find the whole thing twisted. 4 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) So the motivation behind Fluke - the final nail in the coffin of the deconstruction of the show's longest standing hero - is that he wants to be like Sonny? That kinda sums up this show's problems in a nutshell. Edited February 17, 2015 by TeeVee329 16 Link to comment
peachmangosteen February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) I can't believe not one person bts wasn't like 'maybe we shouldn't do a love rectangle with 10 year olds.' TPTB all have so much damage. I'm so embarrassed I actually watched those scenes. Shallow alert: I hate when Liz wears such tight shirts because it accentuates how ridiculous her boobs look on her tiny figure. Sonny being made out to be a martyr while Michael gets portrayed as an evil monster makes my blood boil. Edited February 17, 2015 by peachmangosteen 7 Link to comment
Harmony233 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) So the motivation behind Fluke - the final nail in the coffin of the deconstruction of the show's longest standing hero - is that he wants to be like Sonny? That kinda sums up this show's problems in a nutshell. I don't even like Luke but this is freakin ridclous.Whats so great about sonny anyways? Edited February 17, 2015 by Harmony233 6 Link to comment
HeatLifer February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 So the motivation behind Fluke - the final nail in the coffin of the deconstruction of the show's longest standing hero - is that he wants to be like Sonny? That kinda sums up this show's problems in a nutshell. It's like the "Be Like Mike" campaign but with broken barware, missing towels and claustrophobia. Link to comment
Harmony233 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Sonny being made out to be a martyr while Michael gets portrayed as an evil monster makes my blood boil. Which is one of the reasons I'm not watching much anymore.If there trying to run off fans its working.Fan feb my ass lol. 4 Link to comment
dubbel zout February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 It just seems so obvious to me that Michael should be pursuing a civil suit for wrongful death. Then Sonny gets dragged through the mud again, and he pays big time. Logically, yes, but this show is nothing if not illogical. And given that Sonny must ultimately always win, his "AJ was fat; he deserved to die" defense would work, and Michael wouldn't get a cent. So the motivation behind Fluke - the final nail in the coffin of the deconstruction of the show's longest standing hero - is that he wants to be like Sonny?That kinda sums up this show's problems in a nutshell. I don't even like Luke but this is freakin ridiculous. It's one way to show that Luke isn't Luke, I'll admit that much. 2 Link to comment
Box305 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 I'm so glad NY was interrupted by Breaking News just so ReRon's head will explode. Link to comment
sacrebleu February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) The kiddie quad is really weird, especially when you pause to consider that at one point, Spencer was thought to have been Jax's kid, and if Carly had had her baby-stealing way, he would have been raised as Joss' brother. But now, they're in a pretend "relationship" I loved Michael not caving to Carly's stunning manipulations. I hope he goes after her damn hotel next. Better yet, he teams up with Jax to gain control of it. While they're at it, I hope Jax shares how Sonny had him drugged and accused of sexual assault during his custody battle with Carly over Joss. Yeah, Sonny's 'love' is great- Edited February 17, 2015 by sacrebleu 9 Link to comment
HipOldBat February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 I can't believe not one person bts wasn't like 'maybe we shouldn't do a love rectangle with 10 year olds.' TPTB all have so much damage. I'm so embarrassed I actually watched those scenes. I know this wasn't the reason they did this - because they are too stupid to know this, imho - but children who have been exposed to, shall we say, adult themes at an early age, will actually behave like this. It's a sad reflection of shitty parenting. I would prefer GH not do things like this, for whatever reason. It's just ick. 3 Link to comment
Box305 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Luke wants to be like Sonny??? Oh come the fuck on. 6 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) I loved Michael not caving to Carly's stunning manipulations. I hope he goes after her damn hotel next. I still really, really want that to happen, for Michael to buy the MetroCourt out from under Carly. He needs to emphasize that he still, separately from Sonny, hates Carly for what she did. Edited February 17, 2015 by TeeVee329 5 Link to comment
jsbt February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 (edited) I'd be a lot more comfortable with the kids stuff if I didn't get the sense that Ron is tarring the ten-year-old Cameron with the same 'moral hypocrite' brush that he uses for almost every 'good guy' adult. "You're No Better Than Obrecht, Cameron!" He's ten! Edited February 17, 2015 by jsbt 9 Link to comment
nilyank February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 While they're at it, I hope Jax shares how Sonny had him drugged and accused of sexual assault during his custody battle with Carly over Joss. Michael already knew that. He just didn't care at the time. Link to comment
ulkis February 17, 2015 Share February 17, 2015 Sonny being made out to be a martyr while Michael gets portrayed as an evil monster makes my blood boil. I honestly think the POV today was "all four of them are fucked in the head", the four of them being Sonny, Michael, Morgan and Carly. Admittedly with an addition of, "but at least Sonny and Carly loved them!" Morgan never has any empathy for anyone but himself and those who can service his emotional needs. It would be understandable at 14, it's a little less charming after he basically Nice Guyed Kiki into marrying him. Even Kiki didn't deserve that. Then when people assert their autonomy it's all about throwing himself against things, rending his thin, thin garments and turning up the Nickelback! What cracks me up is you can tell Sonny thinks this same thing about Morgan. He (sonny) is really annoyed at Michael, but when Morgan starts bashing Michael you can tell Sonny's all "ugh no! get off my side!" 1 Link to comment
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