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Dammit, I'm gonna be so disappointed now when this doesn't happen.

 

Sadly, I'm sure one of the adults will spirit her out of the room when, really, Lucas, Bobbie, and Michael should be lining up behind her to beat Franco's ass.

 

I kinda don't understand the point of showing the Sonny/Carly sex tape.  While her brother and son clearly don't want to see that, I don't anticipate any of them going, "How could you cheat on poor, sweet Franco?!?!".  Well, Kiki might, because she's a stupid bitch.  And Scotty getting all pissed off when he started the year sleeping with a married woman would just be beyond.

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They need to do a montage of Michael buying new furniture.

 

Nah, they just need to show him taking a match to the place.

 

  That might not work. Chances are, Sonny & Carly's couch sex was so nasty that its taint can't be killed with fire-it kills fire.

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I kinda don't understand the point of showing the Sonny/Carly sex tape.  While her brother and son clearly don't want to see that, I don't anticipate any of them going, "How could you cheat on poor, sweet Franco?!?!".  Well, Kiki might, because she's a stupid bitch.  And Scotty getting all pissed off when he started the year sleeping with a married woman would just be beyond.

 

Franco is insane, so he thinks someone will care.

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Franco is insane, so he thinks someone will care.

 

Michael might care the doing it happened on his couch, but besides that... 

 

It'd be funny if someone was like, "Oh course she slept with Sonny while involved with you, that's what she does, dude."

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So, I have to clarify something...

 

The 'video' that Franco's evil eye took, that he keeps watching, has magically managed to capture video that the show camera has taken, right? Because in reality anything that was strapped to Carly's chest the way that eye seems to be would have gotten a lot of Sonny's moob shots during the sex.

 

Which, let's be honest, would kind of be hilarious to play at a wedding but everyone is probably really glad that's not going to be the case.

 

*snort* And also ew.

 

It's true, though. At least when Kristen made her sex tape on Days, it made sense that it would show the actual act since she used a hidden camera or something.

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The 'video' that Franco's evil eye took, that he keeps watching, has magically managed to capture video that the show camera has taken, right?​

 

 

I think the most recent footage we saw was supposed to be from the viewpoint of Carly's necklace as she sat on the couch and Sonny stood by the window.  In their son's apartment.  While they talked about killing his father and keeping it a secret.  Love them!

 

I kinda don't understand the point of showing the Sonny/Carly sex tape.

 

 

My read of it is that Franco's revenge is not really about the sex, it's about exposing the AJ murder and lies.  The sex is *why* he's getting the revenge, but exposing that is not his really motive.  But honestly, who knows?  I'm not even sure the writers know what the point of any of this is.  

OH MY GOD - I just had a terrible thought.  What if something happens and Franco doesn't actually reveal the AJ stuff??  Like, Heather shows up with Shawn hot on her heels and everybody runs?  I wouldn't put it past these asshats.  

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She's Faith now, another potentially strong and confident and anti-Sonny female who has been completely gutted and turned into a pathetic weakling with a rapidly approaching expiration date.

 

Ava's expiration date can't come soon enough for me. Someone put her out of her misery and be done with it. It isn't even fun to talk shit about her anymore. She's just pathetic and desperate and worthless.

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I don't remember Faith ever turning weak - she was simply a cartoon. She was - at least, this was my read of who wrote much of her stuff - Chuck Pratt's sex-obsessed psycho blow-up doll, but Cynthia Preston made much more of the character than what was on the page. She gave her real intensity. That being said, I don't remember her ever being remotely human (and I never bought into her subplot with Faux Justus). To the day she died, Faith was talking about shooting kids in the head and burying them in the swamp.

 

Ava they did try to defang, but it didn't take. She is a coldblooded killer. That being said, this sofabed pregnancy tour is a lousy way for her to go out, if she is going out. Makes her look weaker than she is, but you're nobody on a RC/FV show if you can't get pregnant or steal a baby.

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So, I have to clarify something...

 

The 'video' that Franco's evil eye took, that he keeps watching, has magically managed to capture video that the show camera has taken, right? Because in reality anything that was strapped to Carly's chest the way that eye seems to be would have gotten a lot of Sonny's moob shots during the sex.

 

Which, let's be honest, would kind of be hilarious to play at a wedding but everyone is probably really glad that's not going to be the case.

 

It was damn considerate of Carly to make sure that the hideous necklace he gave her was always aimed just so to capture the video.  

 

Franco is insane, so he thinks someone will care.

 

I'm thinking that the sex tape is just to publicly embarrass Carly before he goes in for the kill with the AJ stuff. 

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I don't remember Faith ever turning weak

 

 

 

When she was running around at the end attempting to "beg" for her life, that is what I considered a show of great weakness, and it wasn't necessary imho. I don't disagree about Faith being an over the absolute top character but then she was written off with a whimper and rather pathetically.

 

 

 

Ava they did try to defang, but it didn't take

 

 

 

I think they did worse then try to "defang" her, they tried to make her into a sympathetic character. Ava was brought on as a villain and a villain she should have stayed, not turn into the weepy, hopeful girlfriend of a near teenager who screws his father on a grave and then spends months kept like a caged animal as if she was so helpless and couldn't find her own way out of the mess she made.

 

Right now still she's in the position of "victim", now with the Nina terrorizing her. Ava has been terrorized for months and comparing this sad, useless woman with the one who first arrived in PC, to me the change is so drastic they may as well not even be the same person.

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Speaking of Faith, was there ever any truth to that rumor what when TB decided to leave, Carly and Faith were going to be caught in an explosion and afterwards CP would be playing Carly but with Faith's face?

KITCHEN, the idea was that if TB or SBr could ever be lured back, it would turn out that CP's Carly as really Faith all along and that her people had been holding the real Carly captive.

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I remember Faith running around trying to save her skin a while, but I could've sworn she ended on shooting it out with Sonny in that church and then dying in the hospital after lying about killing Michael. To me, that fit who she was.

 

They did neuter Ava for Morgan and that horrible, stupid relationship, but then they doubled back by revealing she'd killed Connie after all and ending it with Morgan. The pregnancy was a mistake, as is her current state of affairs, but it doesn't change what she still is. They have not tried to whitewash her much since the Connie reveal, IMO because they simply stopped caring about her after hiring Michelle Stafford. She has these sappy couch scenes which are dreadful, but they're nowhere near what they had her doing last winter, weeping and moaning about Evil Julian and Morgan's magic dick.

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Thank god Lucas was allowed to have a functioning brain and got the kids out of there before anymore disgusting revelations were made.

 

I have never been a fan of soaps having the young actors involved in such scenes, even if they are fake. All the sex talk and "bitches" and "whores" and other such slut shaming words that are thrown around are just too much, imho, there's no reason to have them witnessing any of that.

 

My eyes have yet to recover from seeing Sonny's orange tang tanned naked chest flashed at me. Good god...at least they skipped the lifeless Carly "moaning" during the act, that never should have happened the first time.

 

Duke really is a useless loser now, Ron has been shameless in his destruction of the classic characters. That Duke would keep playing Anna for a fool, expecting her to just "believe" him without question or that taking his word for it would mean she would stop reopening the investigation. How vile. If Anna doesn't dump his useless hide after this...

 

Watching Ava drag herself across the floor for two hours was not "must see TV" Ron. And the Nina was at the hospital for days basically but she never bothered to steal anything to help deliver the baby? Not even some gloves or a mask? Sure, of course she did.

 

Liz and Jakson both deserve each other and whatever terrible, awful, horrible things that might happen to them. Really? This is supposed to be some sort of "romantic" gesture to invite a complete, memory blanked, stranger into your home with your small children? For fucks sake, it's just beyond the pale. What's cute about being a desperate, blind, bad mother?

 

Morgan really wants to be Sonny's new right hand man, Ron just can't help himself, of course one of his spawns must be by his side and supporting his sorry ass.

 

And Michael's Eeyore face was on full display, how riveting...still not interested, still don't care show. This fixes shit all, Ron.

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Lol at Nina saying did anyone like Ava. I really wish those 2 would be gone from the show. I'm so over both of them.

 

I detest Franco but yes, please expose Sonny/Carly for what truly awful people they are. 

 

I kinda felt bad for Michael at the end. 

 

As per usual when it comes to them Jake/Liz ZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Let me guess she moves him in with her.

 

Forgot to mention that Sonny looked so nasty on screen. So orange and greasy.

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Not gonna lie. Looking forward to the Micheal rage tomorrow. I think that close up was the death of Eeyore because dude was yelling at LCW. Lol at Kaka and Carly like get Micheal out of here. Roger Howarth was amazing today. I don't care how Todd that was. It wasn't Todd and Blair Todd. That was some shit he dished out for like worse than Tea.

Duke is dumb, but hey Anna owned him at the end. She's been banging Dante so it's cool.

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Oh that Dr. Obrecht, so evil, not allowing doctors to willy nilly place rush orders for their (ex-)girlfriend or let nurses' crushes hang around the hospital indefinitely.

 

God bless Joss for wanting to kick Franco.  She surprisingly became the bright spot in this story.

 

Oh Duke, biiiiiig mistake.

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I don't mind Morgan not caring if Ava is dead, I've never had a problem with him being morally ambiguous - I care more that he is still keeping this secret from Michael, partly to protect Sonny's ass. Boo Morgan! Bros before . . . actually "hos" works quite well here in Sonny's case.

 

At least he looked really hot today.

 

Not only is Franco psycho, he's a whiny psycho with the mental maturity of a 12 year old.

 

Anna was great today. Dump Duke Anna! Dump him hard.

 

blerg, Sonny looked super gross in Franco's video. Physically, I mean, although he is of course gross morally as well.

 

Carly: What the hell is wrong with you?!

 

Really Carly? REALLY? You brought this upon yourself woman! God, I hope Sam is allowed to cackle at her but she'll probably just comfort Carly.


Morgan really wants to be Sonny's new right hand man, Ron just can't help himself, of course one of his spawns must be by his side and supporting his sorry ass.

 

I'm sad at this turn of events for Morgan, but I am thankful it's not Dante . . . at least, not so far . . . who is propping Sonny's ass over this. At least with Morgan it makes some degree of sense. It never does when it's Dante.

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They did neuter Ava for Morgan and that horrible, stupid relationship, but then they doubled back by revealing she'd killed Connie after all and ending it with Morgan. The pregnancy was a mistake, as is her current state of affairs, but it doesn't change what she still is. They have not tried to whitewash her much since the Connie reveal, IMO because they simply stopped caring about her after hiring Michelle Stafford. She has these sappy couch scenes which are dreadful, but they're nowhere near what they had her doing last winter, weeping and moaning about Evil Julian and Morgan's magic dick.

 

 

 

 

This crap with the Nina trying to steal her baby, to me, only makes sense if they're trying to drum up sympathy for Ava/ I don't think Ron has stopped caring about her at all, not even in the slightest, he's just keeping her in Sonny's circle which is, imo, bad enough but he didn't just drop her the way he did say Sabrina or Felix.

 

Those two characters I would say he stopped caring about, or writing for, but as far as Ava goes she's had way too much attention paid to her for me to think that way.

 

And frankly having her weepy at all is just plain terrible and useless. Personally I don't care who she's crying over or why, painting her as the "little woman" period is just stupid and boring. Watching her being terrorized and tormented as if she's Liz or Robin...nope, it's all bad, it may have varying levels at times but in general it's all shit awful and more of Ron trying to re-write to fix problems that are way too deep and long lasting, at least to me. 

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I was so Team Franco this episode. Loved him finally speaking out and spilling everything to Michael. 

 

Yes, but let's not forget that Franco isn't doing this out of the goodness of his heart or anything.  If Carly hadn't fooled around on him with Sonny, he would have kept that secret forever.

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I'm sad at this turn of events for Morgan, but I am thankful it's not Dante . . . at least, not so far . . . who is propping Sonny's ass over this. At least with Morgan it makes some degree of sense. It never does when it's Dante.

 

 

 

 

Nothing has ever made sense when it comes to Sonny and Dante, not a damn thing. I'm not a Dante fan but I will openly say the fact that he hasn't bugged the man's house and delivered him on a silver platter to the Feds years ago is just bullshit.

 

He had no connection to Sonny coming in, he was nearly killed by him, and yet he lets him play "grandpa" to his kid and wants to believe there is good inside him somewhere, way way deep down there...like Cassadine catacombs deep.

 

For fucks sake, this isn't "A Wonderful Life", Sonny is, has been, and always will be a terrible person, people should hate him. Especially people he tried to kill without remorse or regret.

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Michael's face behind Franco as Franco called Carly names was the best WTF face I have ever seen.  Really, he did a great job throughout the whole episode, I thought, and Carly's reactions played well too.  The view of Sonny on the paused video (the first time)?  The most unflattering shot ever, and I loved it. 

 

The second Dr. O started talking about discharging Jake, I was overwhelmed with the fear that Liz would suggest taking him home with her to nurse him back to health.  I thought, no, no way she would do that.  And then she did.  I don't even have the words for that level of stupid writing.  Even more confusing to me is why the two of them are boring me so much.  I'm not a Liz lover, but I certainly don't hate her, and I thought I would like the new actor, but they are snooze city for me. 

 

Joss at least threatened to kick Franco!  So, we partially got our wish.  

 

Franco threw Kiki under the bus too!  In addition to the fake popcorn eating, him coming out from behind the beaded curtain had me in stitches.  I think RH played these scenes really well, and it's times like this that I'm really glad I'm able to pretend that James Franco's Franco never happened.  Overall, I'm mostly pleased with how the reveal is going.  SO FAR.  

 

I'm not even going to discuss Nina/ Morgan/ Sonny scenes, because I'm choosing to pretend that storyline does not exist (my cognitive dissonance skills are to be envied).  Well, except to say that Nina's "List of Baby-Birthing Supplies" cracked me up, but not in a good way.  More in a stupid way.​

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You know, I could almost be tempted to watch Carly's downfall (and Sonny, for 5 seconds) if it was orchestrated by ANYONE but a SERIAL KILLER who got the son of the woman he is shaming RAPED.

 

But no. Ron must let a pet get the honors. I call bullshit.

 

And I need someone who is gun happy (if this was Guza's GH, it would be like shooting fish in a barrel!) to come in and gun Sonny, Carly, AND FRANCO - he who strapped a woman to a bomb and sexually assaulted another woman and made her think she carried his hellspawn - down to the ground.

 

Ron can GTFOOH if he thinks Franco having ANY sort of high ground isn't the ultimate joke.

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Oh, I forgot to say, I can't believe they dragged in the poor Felix actor to stand around for this shit. I was distracted by the pointlessness of Felix being there.

 

Seriously, why did stupid Felix have to be there?  There wasn't even any tension between him and Lucas/Brad so what was the point?

 

And poor Lucy, she deserves so much better than to blame herself for these weddings crashing down around her. 

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I like the reveal. I detest the character making it. There's nothing they can ever do to try to make Franco "T_dd" or make me give a shit. I'm so sick of them trying to invoke him that I've practically had to scrub his name from my memory. It's pathetic if all they can do to try to put this debacle of a character over is try to make me remember one tacky sweeps event from 13 years ago with the same actor.

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I rather liked when Franco revealed Ava and Sonny screwed on AJ's grave and said "it's like adding insult to injury. First he kills him, then he screws on his grave."

 

I could have sworn Michael already knew that.  Or is that another secret Kiki's been keeping from him, that the Sonny/Ava sex was IN A CRYPT?

 

Which reminds me, I was delighted Franco remembered to throw Kiki under the bus.  That's what you get for sticking up for a SERIAL KILLER, you stupid bitch.

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Misogynistic name-calling, "slut shaming," and PG-rated torture porn.  What a wonderful hour of "entertainment."

 

 

 

Must See TV at its finest.

 

It'd be helpful if I cared about anyone involved with the whole AJ murder reveal but I don't. The only one I cared about was AJ himself and he's dead and he's only dead so that the rest of these characters I have absolutely no use for can be propped up for Sweeps, oh and Ron acted like a five year old when the actor, Sean, didn't care to be back-burned and just hang around for no goddamn reason.

 

I just hate this show, I really do.

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I'm dreaming that The Nina and Freako spontaneously combust during their first sexual encounter and out of the wreckage emerges...Faith Roscoe. Yes, Borg shot her to death, but what does that matter? She returns from the dead and successfully wreaks havoc on Sonny. Maybe Michael sleeps with his one-time kidnapper. We've learned that with Ron, anything is possible, so let's make it something positive!

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Felix is one of Carly's only friends, so made sense to have him there. 

 

He hasn't shared a scene with Carly in months.  And it seemed like he was there more in capacity as some kind of assistant to Lucy than anything else.  Weird and pointless and shut up, Felix, gawd!

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I don't consider it to be slut shaming when a woman is actively cheating on her fiance. I consider that calling out someone for cheating. However, I would love it if they used the term 'whore' for the men who cheat, too. I mean, Sonny's the biggest slut on this show and someone should damn well call him that.

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RH was excellent today.  He played the reveal perfectly.

 

Had to laugh when Carly was all indignant that Franco had her bugged. If given a choice of what was worse, cheating or giving your gf a gift that keeps on giving, Carly clearly has no place to talk.

 

Dare I hope there is some fall out for Bobbie lying to Scott?

 

I really thought something was going to happen last minute to stop the reveal, like Heather showing up, then I realized she's the one that most likely shot up Sonny's goon.

 

So Morgan is ok with Sonny kidnapping Ava, then killing her after she gives birth.  Disgusting.  I really loathe Sonny and now Morgan is a close second.  

 

Please let there be some meaningful repercussions for all of this.

 

I am still stunned that Liz has a job.  The way she talks to her is boss is something that would get her fired in real life, hell, in soap life as well.  And how dumb is Liz?  She invites someone she doesn't know to come live with her, not knowing what he's capable of, but she's also too stupid  to realize that people who stay in hospitals have to pay bills?  Hello?  What; did she think happened?  The suture fairy swoops down at night and pays everyone's bills?

 

I really hope Silas makes it over to save Ava but I have a feeling it's going to be Sonny.

 

Jakeson is a little too cocky for somebody who has no idea who he is.

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I like the reveal. I detest the character making it. There's nothing they can ever do to try to make Franco "T_dd" or make me give a shit. I'm so sick of them trying to invoke him that I've practically had to scrub his name from my memory. It's pathetic if all they can do to try to put this debacle of a character over is try to make me remember one tacky sweeps event from 13 years ago with the same actor.

 

I have to say, Franco came off pretty brutal today. I don't know if it's as delusional as thinking AJ or Laura will come back anytime soon but I'll just dream that Ron and Frank are keeping some sort of RoHo exit under very tight wraps.

 

Scotty getting all huffy about Bobbie lying about Carly was stupid of him, sorry Scott. Bobbie acting like she did something wrong was even worse. She shoulda just been all "sorrynotsorry Scott".

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Dare I hope there is some fall out for Bobbie lying to Scott?

 

I don't have a problem with Bobbie siding with her daughter over her boyfriend's SERIAL KILLER son of five seconds.  I still refuse to believe Scotty gives an iota of a shit about Franco.

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Oh, Morgan. I get that you're disappointed to learn that your erstwhile girlfriend is a killer, but considering her line of work, how can that be a surprise?  And where in your poor misguided brain does it make sense to let your father kill said girlfriend?  Ain't he a killer too?  After all, he murdered your brother's bio dad, didn't he?  How do you give him a pass to murder the potential mother of your child just 'cause he's sad that that woman killed his fiancé?  The fiancé he promptly forgot about to start up with not only his older but also his younger son's mother?

 

While I'm not a huge Franco fan, I can't help but love the whole reveal.  Anyone that can orchestrate a take-down of Carly is aces in my book.  She's had it coming for years.  Not that there will be any long-term fallout for her or Sonny.  We all know they'll both be the darlings of Port Chuck within six months.  Nevertheless, it'll be wonderful while it lasts.

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