Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Harmony233]

4 minutes ago, ulkis said:

If you hate Lulu, that would be bad because then they would talk about her like they did Morgan. No just send her away.

I disagree they care about lulu about as much as they cared about nik.I actually like Lulu a lot better than I like Maxi e these days even though they give her stupid stories.

[ulkis]

1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Probably not, as she's not a Corinthii (though, by marriage, though again, Dante's off screen, so...).  See: Jones, Georgie.

Oh, it would turn out that Joss and Carly hung out with Lulu all the time and they were so bummed out and Joss would probably sing.

[dubbel zout]

We might even get a duet with Valerie.

[ulkis]

2 minutes ago, Harmony233 said:

I disagree they care about lulu about as much as they cared about nik.I actually like Lulu a lot better than I like Maxi e these days even though they give her stupid stories.

Oh they don't care about Lulu at all. But they would use her to let us know some more how awesome and strong Carly is.

Edited September 13, 2018 by ulkis

[Perkie]

ONe thing casting does right is get adorable babies/kids.  That baby James was freakin' adorable and looked like he could actually be Maxie's son.  

So Ryan, who's been institutionalized for years, somehow has figured out how to work a cell phone and the internet within minutes of escaping.  Sure.

I loved the Anna/Robin, Robin/Maxie/James and Anna/Maxie scenes.  I also appreciated Robin's caution in her conversation with Peter.  

Why was there no voice over for nuJordan?  Usually they have a voice for a couple of days that says, "the role of Jordan Ashford is now being played by...."

[HeatLifer]

The way WR speaks as Peter reminds me of how RoHo plays Franco with Liz. It’s this particular tone, almost like this soft-spoken, “I’m innocent and recovered, I swear!” baby voice.

[ulkis]

4 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

The way WR speaks as Peter reminds me of how RoHo plays Franco with Liz. It’s this particular tone, almost like this soft-spoken, “I’m innocent and recovered, I swear!” baby voice.

But he does it all the time. I suppose it could just be his normal voice though. But it feels more like his "this is a deep character having deep emotions!" voice.

What the fuck was Maxie wearing.

[HeatLifer]

3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

But he does it all the time. I suppose it could just be his normal voice though. But it feels more like his "this is a deep character having deep emotions!" voice.

What the fuck was Maxie wearing.

Peter makes me wish Ethan was Robin’s brother. I hate myself. Also, as much as I appreciated that Robin is still weary of this guy, I fear that she’ll eventually accept him and I’m not convinced Robin would ever forgive someone who hurt her mother or Jason.

Everyone’s wardrobe sucks, tbh.

[Mrs. Stanwyck]

58 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Anyway, so she asks Liz if she told Franco since she already asked Liz to keep it to herself.  Liz responded that she hadn't told Franco but that they agreed not to keep secrets from each other and would HAVE to tell him if he asked.  I get not keeping secrets from your spouse when it has anything at all to do with you, him, or your relationship.  This doesn't.  No reason she can't tell him that it is a private matter that doesn't concern either of them and was confided in her by her friend about her own private business. 

You're right - as I said, I'm not watching so I missed that part.  If Kim specifically asked her not to tell Franco, then I don't see a reason why she needs to tell him.  If he asks, then she can say Kim confided a very personal secret to her and asked her not to say anything to anyone and Liz would like to respect that request.  Normal people might really want to know but would ultimately respect her decision, especially if she tells him if has nothing to do with either Liz or Franco. 

Edited September 13, 2018 by Mrs. Stanwyck

[Benji]

I never watched during the time Ryan was on. So, is there some kind of physical characteristic or mannerism that can distinguish one brother from the other ? Something that one of the people who knew both brothers will finally catch onto to reveal Ryan ?

[LillyB]

Jason so wants to kill Julien even if it means murdering his son's grand daddy.

[methodwriter85]

10 minutes ago, Benji said:

I never watched during the time Ryan was on. So, is there some kind of physical characteristic or mannerism that can distinguish one brother from the other ? Something that one of the people who knew both brothers will finally catch onto to reveal Ryan ?

I'm pretty sure there wasn't. Although apparently Lucy could tell the difference.

Edited September 13, 2018 by methodwriter85

[TeeVee329]

9 minutes ago, Benji said:

I never watched during the time Ryan was on. So, is there some kind of physical characteristic or mannerism that can distinguish one brother from the other ? Something that one of the people who knew both brothers will finally catch onto to reveal Ryan ?

Not that I recall.  If anything's gonna trip Ryan up, it's not knowing details about Kevin's life in the last...however long we're supposed to believe Kevin had him locked up in Ferncliff without telling anyone.

And last time, I don't think Ryan masqueraded as Kevin for too long, just long enough to grab baby Georgie.

[LexieLily]

5 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Not that I recall.  If anything's gonna trip Ryan up, it's not knowing details about Kevin's life in the last...however long we're supposed to believe Kevin had him locked up in Ferncliff without telling anyone.

And last time, I don't think Ryan masqueraded as Kevin for too long, just long enough to grab baby Georgie.

I bet that's why Ryan was looking up information on Kevin and pictures of Lulu on the internet on SpyFinder, which is Port Charles' version of Facebook?

There is also the little detail of Kevin having a bullet wound/scar in the shoulder from where Valentin shot him but something like that shouldn't come into play until Laura comes home.

Edited September 13, 2018 by LexieLily

[LillyB]

First rule of being a mobster, before stashing a gun be sure to wipe all prints off it.

[bannana]

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

ONe thing casting does right is get adorable babies/kids.  That baby James was freakin' adorable and looked like he could actually be Maxie's son.  

So Ryan, who's been institutionalized for years, somehow has figured out how to work a cell phone and the internet within minutes of escaping.  Sure.

I loved the Anna/Robin, Robin/Maxie/James and Anna/Maxie scenes.  I also appreciated Robin's caution in her conversation with Peter.  

Why was there no voice over for nuJordan?  Usually they have a voice for a couple of days that says, "the role of Jordan Ashford is now being played by...."

Ha!  I actually had no idea that was Jordan, I was wondering who it was.

[Cheyanne11]

27 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

I bet that's why Ryan was looking up information on Kevin and pictures of Lulu on the internet on SpyFinder, which is Port Charles' version of Facebook?

 

I think it's supposed to be a search engine, a la Google.

[dubbel zout]

OLTL used SpyderFinder as its search engine of choice, and Ron brought it with him to GH. I'm bummed there's no Port Charles equivalent of Llannet.

[TeeVee329]

And also...was it Llanbook?  Or Llanface?  Poor Shane.

[Melgaypet]

MyFace!

Which Clint only used for business. 

[General Days]

On 9/6/2018 at 8:36 PM, nilyank said:

It is one thing for Ava to demand Kiki to stay away from Avery which as her mom she get to have some say on that but she is only doing this to hurt Kiki and more importantly, Avery.

However, Ava called her a daughter a WHORE. That is downright hateful and makes their relationship even more dysfunctional. I totally believe that Kiki is going to end up being Nina's secret daughter.

 

Ava slept with a very young Morgan when Kiki was involved with him, so it's not only hateful, it is hypocritical. They're ruining Ava for me. I think this would be a better storyline (I'm actually rooting for Kiki and Griffin as a couple, because I think they have chemistry, which I realize may make me a party of one), if Ava was furious at Griffin, and saw him as having taken advantage of Kiki, and wouldn't listen to reason, even if Kiki said that wasn't the case.

 

On 9/7/2018 at 6:47 PM, Perkie said:

Whoever the day nurse was (not Felix) was taking Mike to an appointment.  I guess at some point, Mike took off, which means that nurse should be fired.  Also, the reason why Sonny needs to put Mike in a facility, so that he's not wandering the streets with a monkey wrench in his hands.  

 

On 9/10/2018 at 10:04 PM, dubbel zout said:

Mike's Alzheimer's should not be used this way. Ugh.

 

On 9/11/2018 at 8:58 AM, dubbel zout said:

I think GH has done a legit decent job with it when it doesn't involve What Happened in Croton. We're grading on a sliding scale, of course, but the story hasn't been completely awful.

 

I think GH has screwed up the legit decent job they could be doing on Alzheimers, because of Croton, but also because of Sonny's wealth (ill-gotten or not).

Max Gail's performance has been great (and I loved Ron Hale as Mike, so it was a hard recast for me to accept at first). They've also been informative when they could be, via Stella, Griffin, and Felix's involvement.

But when Mike gets away, like he did to blow up Charlie's, it just makes me roll my eyes. Sonny always has protection watching everyone. It's ridiculous that one of his minions (even if they can't afford to bring back Max) isn't shadowing Mike everywhere he goes.

What's more, Alzheimers is an incredible strain on the family and/or caregivers, but that strain is harder to buy into when Sonny and crew and the primary caregivers.

Caregivers need respite. However, by giving this story to Sonny and Mike, they've given it to a guy for whom money (and guards) has (have) never been an object. Sonny owns a GD island he could sell or leverage if need be, so his family just wouldn't face the same kind of stressors a middle-class or poor family would in caring for an ill family member.

Even the decision to keep Mike at home or put him in a facility wouldn't be as difficult for Sonny, with his wealth and security team, as it would be for a regular family. He could afford round-the-clock care and guards, should he bother to hire them. He could quickly adapt his house to make it safer for Mike. Hell, he could put a GD chip in MIke, to track him, if he wanted. If/when he decides Mike needs to live in a facility, he can just pick the best one, whereas a non-rich family might have to sacrifice to get their loved one into an even minimally acceptable place.

It's not that wealthy people don't suffer when their loved ones have Alzheimer's, but they just don't face all the same problems the non-wealthy do. This would be better if it were happening to a regular family or if it were happening to a regular family in tandem with it happening to Sonny's family, to show the difference money makes in medical care. Sonny doesn't even have to worry about pissing off his boss, by taking off too much time to care for Mike.

The Croton storyline is just adding insult to injury.

I keep thinking they could have done the Alzheimer's story with Laura and Lesley. Laura has never seemed in need of money, but she's certainly nowhere as well-heeled as Sonny, even with her marriage to Kevin.

Instead it's Sonny, and one of his biggest worries is that his father could accidentally implicate him in a murder he did commit, so he stands there and screams at a sick old man.

Sonny ruins everything. Again.

[peachmangosteen]

I don't know why really but I've been kinda itching to watch some GH again lately. 

I caught some of today's show and fuck LWB is so bad. I had caught a bit of him when he was, like, tied up in a bed and O and Nina were there or something and he didn't seem too bad, but he was just awful in the few minutes I caught today.

Edited September 13, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[driver18]

3 hours ago, Mrs. Stanwyck said:

You're right - as I said, I'm not watching so I missed that part.  If Kim specifically asked her not to tell Franco, then I don't see a reason why she needs to tell him.  If he asks, then she can say Kim confided a very personal secret to her and asked her not to say anything to anyone and Liz would like to respect that request.  Normal people might really want to know but would ultimately respect her decision, especially if she tells him if has nothing to do with either Liz or Franco. 

 

Kim did not specifically tell her not to tell Franco. In fact, Elizabeth told Kim that because she had told Franco that the two of them couldn't have any secrets she didn't feel right keeping a secret from him, however she would only tell him if he specifically asked her about Oscar, and Kim was OK with that. She knows what Elizabeth has been going through secret-wise with Franco and knew the situation and figured that Franco probably wouldn't even ask about Oscar anyway. Furthermore, Franco told Drew later that he knew that Elizabeth was keeping something from him (having to do with Kim -- since the two of them discussing a patient at the house made no sense) but considered all of the secrets that he'd kept from her, he figured he wasn't going to put up a fuss. When/if she was ready to tell him, she would tell him.

Edited September 13, 2018 by driver18

[dubbel zout]

Sonny's guards are effective or neglectful as the story demands. They've always been a plot point. As for the health aides, they are also a plot point. That's the least of it for me. When the story focuses on Mike and what he's going through, I think it's good. Mostly because Max Gail is doing a fantastic job, but still. It's when it becomes about Sonny and how Sonny feels and the Croton crap, it's super annoying.

3 hours ago, Perkie said:

That baby James was freakin' adorable

When he made that raspberry noise when he was sitting on Maxie's lap, I died.

Here's some advice, Kristina: If you're feeling lost and unmoored, how about going into therapy to figure out why? Maybe not with "Kevin," but someone professional could help you out.

Oh, Lulu. LWB/FS manipulated you once again and you let him do it.

[JeezumCrow]

5 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Nope.  Eve was a newbie doctor at the hospital when the show started, she was basically the secondary female lead on "Port Charles" after Lucy.  When Lucy and Scotty were paired back up, they put Eve with Kevin.  But then Eve and Kevin broke up because Eve cheated on him with Thorsten Kaye.

I don't acknowledge That Name in my postings, even if I'm quoting someone. :)

Eve did cheat on Kevin with Ian Thornhart (Thorsten Kaye), but it was because they were soul mates who had loved one another through past lives (I’m not sighing, you’re sighing). It was an amicable divorce; IIRC Kevin was on his way back to Lucy at the time, too. (I think this was the Time in a Bottle story arc?) Livvie’s mother was Grace, an ex of Kevin’s; Livvie was raised by Grace’s sister, Dr. Rachel Locke, as her own daughter. 

It’s too bad Eve died in a car crash; I’d have loved to see Julie Pinson make an appearance during a Kevin story. But maybe I should just be grateful the current regime isn’t destroying her character. 

[Sake614]

NuJordan could easily be Shari Belafonte’s daughter. 

[Oracle42]

19 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

Peter makes me wish Ethan was Robin’s brother.

I knew you'd get there eventually!

Admit it, they probably would've been kinda cute - and it wouldn't have traduced Robert's character and shat upon established history like LWB/FS does with Anna

Edited September 14, 2018 by Oracle42

[TeeVee329]

2 hours ago, JeezumCrow said:

Eve did cheat on Kevin with Ian Thornhart (Thorsten Kaye), but it was because they were soul mates who had loved one another through past lives (I’m not sighing, you’re sighing). It was an amicable divorce; IIRC Kevin was on his way back to Lucy at the time, too. (I think this was the Time in a Bottle story arc?) Livvie’s mother was Grace, an ex of Kevin’s; Livvie was raised by Grace’s sister, Dr. Rachel Locke, as her own daughter. 

It’s too bad Eve died in a car crash; I’d have loved to see Julie Pinson make an appearance during a Kevin story. But maybe I should just be grateful the current regime isn’t destroying her character. 

That's how I remember it too, Kevin and Eve's divorce was pretty civilized and they remained friends.  And yeah, while Eve being the Fifth Chair was a legitimately shocking way to end the "Secrets" arc, it actually kinda turned out to be the beginning of the end for "Port Charles", IMO anyway.

How sad that this split-second nod to continuity with its long-defunct spin-off is more interesting than anything going on on "Generally Sonny".

ETA...btw, @LexieLily, Eve is another lady Kevin and Scotty have in common.  Scotty was her first pairing on "Port Charles".

Edited September 14, 2018 by TeeVee329

[Cheyanne11]

Sonny and Jason need to just fuck off with their anger at Julian, for daring to have unknowingly bought the bar where Sonny's buttinsky father re-buried a body of Sonny's first murder victim who, poor Sonny, Joe Scully "made" him kill (little play on words there).  And how dare Margeux, the DISTRICT ATTORNEY whose entire job description is "catch criminals" have them "in her sights."   God, only on this show...

Also, and this always bugs me: Sam bops around town without so much as a change purse.  And do not tell me her keys, phone, ID and some money can all fit in a pocket of her skintight jeans.  Also, did she actually say to Julian that he'd better keep Charlie's "family friendly" to Kristina's family?  When has he EVER refused any of them service?  He should, given they usually come in and basically growl at him. 

[LexieLily]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

That's how I remember it too, Kevin and Eve's divorce was pretty civilized and they remained friends.  And yeah, while Eve being the Fifth Chair was a legitimately shocking way to end the "Secrets" arc, it actually kinda turned out to be the beginning of the end for "Port Charles", IMO anyway.

How sad that this split-second nod to continuity with its long-defunct spin-off is more interesting than anything going on on "Generally Sonny".

ETA...btw, @LexieLily, Eve is another lady Kevin and Scotty have in common.  Scotty was her first pairing on "Port Charles".

So...both of Kevin's (former) wives have cheated on him? That poor man. And Eve dated Scotty too?!

[LillyB]

So help me, this show has me rooting for Julian.

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, Oracle42 said:

I knew you'd get there eventually!

Admit it, they probably would've been kinda cute - and it wouldn't have traduced Robert's character and shat upon established history.

And him and Luke's relationship wouldn't have been actually sweet, Luke taking on his best friend's son, instead of super grating.

[General Days]

Not to undercut my earlier "Sonny ruins everything," refrain, but @ulkis reminds me I am so glad Tony Geary is gone and took latter-day-Luke with him. 

On Twitter, #InThe80sWe is currently trending. As I typed the comment about TG/Luke, I realized 1980s me would have sworn she would never say such a thing.

 

Edited September 14, 2018 by General Days

[TeeVee329]

9 hours ago, LexieLily said:

So...both of Kevin's (former) wives have cheated on him? That poor man. And Eve dated Scotty too?!

You know, in all three cases - Laura, Lucy, Eve - Scotty was with them first.  Kevin really has a thing for Scotty's ladies.  Bobbie better look out! ;)

Edited September 14, 2018 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

You know, in all three cases - Laura, Lucy, Eve - Scotty was with them first.  Kevin really has a thing for Scotty's ladies.  Bobbie better look out! ;)

Now what did poor Kevin ever do to us to want him to have to deal with Carly as a potential stepdaughter?!

[Oracle42]

7 hours ago, General Days said:

 

 

Few things:

The pacing for these scenes was SO GOOD. 

I loved OG L&L. I freely acknowledge that their origin story was deeply, deeply  f*cked up but I have also admitted to being a chem-whore, so.... 

Also? You'd never know from any of her scenes that GF didn't want to come back. She showed up (however reluctantly) and totally committed to doing her job. Looking at you, GH 2018.

Oh, and Frank - That scene with Stavros, at the end - THAT is how you Cassadine.  There is no way in hell that Mikkos disinherited that man for some lame-ass lounge singer. 

I would also like to point out that OG Stavros looks a lot more like Sam than either version of Julian does

Edited September 14, 2018 by Oracle42

[TeeVee329]

11 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Now what did poor Kevin ever do to us to want him to have to deal with Carly as a potential stepdaughter?!

That's probably why Kevin has never gone there, checks out to me!

[statsgirl]

1 hour ago, Oracle42 said:

Oh, and Frank - That scene with Stavros, at the end - THAT is how you Cassadine. 

Who was that actor?  Because that is a worthy son of Mikkos and Helena.

[TeeVee329]

Poor Monica is getting dragged on Twitter for throwing a birthday party for Drew, but not Jason.  Dear stans - Jason is a garbage son who never sees her and IS BEST FRIENDS WITH HER OTHER CHILD'S MURDERER! 

But still, what a weird, sparsely attended MacGuffin event to get some of these people in the same place.

[LexieLily]

15 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Poor Monica is getting dragged on Twitter for throwing a birthday party for Drew, but not Jason.  Dear stans - Jason is a garbage son who never sees her and IS BEST FRIENDS WITH HER OTHER CHILD'S MURDERER! 

But still, what a weird, sparsely attended MacGuffin event to get some of these people in the same place.

Doesn't Jason choose to celebrate his birthday on the day he woke up post-coma-that-turned-him-into-Jason-Morgan?

Edited September 14, 2018 by LexieLily

[HeatLifer]

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Poor Monica is getting dragged on Twitter for throwing a birthday party for Drew, but not Jason.  Dear stans - Jason is a garbage son who never sees her and IS BEST FRIENDS WITH HER OTHER CHILD'S MURDERER! 

That’s not why Monica wouldn’t throw Jason a birthday party, lol.

1 minute ago, LexieLily said:

Doesn't Jason choose to celebrate his birthday on the day he woke up post-coma-that-turned-him-into-Jason-Morgan?

Yes.

[TeeVee329]

3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Doesn't Jason choose to celebrate his birthday on the day he woke up post-coma-that-turned-him-into-Jason-Morgan?

Well somebody tell the stans then!  "How dare Monica be sensitive to Jason not acknowledging this day as his birthday, but also do something for the son who's actually nice to slash talks to her and is fine with having that day as his birthday!"

Edited September 14, 2018 by TeeVee329

[HeatLifer]

2 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Well somebody tell the stans then!  Can't Monica enjoy doing something nice for her son who actually talks to her?

I’m surprised his stans wouldn’t know that. 

[TeeVee329]

They're just mad she did something nice for Drew.

But again, the whole set-up was just a dumb MacGuffin anyway.

Edited September 14, 2018 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

What the hell, Kim? You, who has known for years about this super-secret brain tumor that is going to kill your son, can tell people about it and receive support, but Drew isn't allowed to tell Sam?

[TeeVee329]

In other news, I guess this couldn't be helped, but having the first two days of nuJordan be with Elizabeth Hendrickson - a practically new character herself - seems weird.

Previews...I am not psyched about Ryan and Franco interacting.  Just kill him, Chamberlain.

ETA...and now the Friz fans are whining on Twitter that it's also Franco's birthday.  Like Monica is gonna invite the man who got her grandson raped over for cake.  FFS shut up!

Edited September 14, 2018 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

3 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

ETA...and now the Friz fans are whining on Twitter that it's also Franco's birthday.  Like Monica is gonna invite the man who got her grandson raped over for cake.  FFS shut up!

How is it Franco's birthday? I thought they took it away that Franco/Jason were brothers or whatever.

[TeeVee329]

They've retconned it so many times, but I believe the story now is that Susan and Heather gave birth the same day.  So all three would share a birthday.

[LexieLily]

I swear we need a road map written in pencil to keep track of all the birthdays and children's ages and parentage.

[ulkis]

12 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

They're just mad she did something nice for Drew.

But again, the whole set-up was just a dumb MacGuffin anyway.

That was one sad party.

What, no comment on shirtless sexiness in the elevator?

(Would never make fun of an actual person with claustrophobia, but between this and Peter's month of moaning, they are making out the guy to look pretty wimpy and whiny.)