Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

It's been such a secret that for a moment, I thought Kristina may be the bio mom.

BUt Alexis knows the birth mothers identity. So it couldn’t have been Kristina.

[Hater]

Re: Billy and Tamara. I wasn’t connecting with the performances. The actors are trying more than most. See my avatar. But I wasn’t feeling it. 

[Perkie]

11 hours ago, LexieLily said:

What if Kim is making him sick or making this up? Munchausen's by proxy?

I actually thought of that too, and I think it would be an interesting story.  Kim, who's a doctor and sworn to help people, being the one to make her own child sick.  I think TB would have the chops to pull it off.  Problem is the writers wouldn't.  They would mess that up like nobody's business.  Plus, unless TB is leaving there would be no consequences to Kim;s actions, other than maybe a month at Shadybrook. 

10 hours ago, rur said:

Does anyone else think that Liz's friend Terry is going to find a magical cure for Oscar?  She's a paediatric oncologist, right?

Teri's already on the case.  Kim mentioned that Oscar's specialist had run some tests two years ago and found no solution and that the specialist was Teri.  I asumed that meant Teri and Kim were living in the same town/working at the same hospital two years ago.  

[Asp Burger]

I don't know, I could see the Oscar story going either way. They might do miracle cure, which could be the professional "redemption" of St. Griffin. Or this might be their bid for BJ's-heart sweeps tragedy, and another way to make Drew's connection to Port Charles more tenuous, paving the way for Billy Miller's eventual pink-slipping pursuit of exciting new projects.  

13 hours ago, jsbt said:

Geez, I thought NuCam's early scenes weren't bad. When did he start to suck and where can I watch and mock?

It's complicated in that this is the second of the NuCams, and he hasn't really had all that many scenes to establish a baseline. Some of us preferred the first one (only two widely spaced days in July) on look and presence alone. That was the one who resembled Chad Brannon/Zander.  

I don't think the current one is outrageously awful or anything; he's just "there." I don't think he has the chops to make the Josslyn/Oscar corner of the show any more interesting than it ever is. His best scenes have been the ones with daytime veterans such as Herbst and Howarth keeping it airborne.  

[YaddaYadda]

I'm assuming that Terri will need Griffin to consult on Oscar's case, then he can his medical licence back. 

I used to volunteer at the children's hospital in the oncology day clinic in my area when I was working on my undergrad, and every single one of those children (barring the little babies) as young as 3 years old knew they were sick, they knew they had some kind of illness even if they didn't really understand what it was. They were poked and prodded every time they came in. They had to have their ports accessed and put under for spinal taps. That shit is invasive.

The show needs to stop with the whole, Oscar doesn't know because I didn't tell him anything. A boy of 13 will ask questions if he is poked and prodded like that and Oscar seems like an intelligent boy. I think he would be able to put two and two together. This stuff is a Google search away. Granted, webMD is a black hole of anxiety, but this whole secrecy is so dumb. 

Oscar was lucky he had his seizure while an adult was present, even if it's Jason. And Kim refusing to tell the doctor who was treating her son what she knew about his medical history was so lame. Lady, your son has a ticking time bomb in his brain. Isn't this negligence on her part? 

This storyline makes me really angry. I don't even care about Oscar, but damn, he drew the short straw with his mother. 

I got to wonder, are they possibly preparing for Kim's exit on this one? 

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I’m assuming that Terri will need Griffin to consult on Oscar's case, then he can his medical licence back. 

Wait, I thought Griffin was just suspended from the hospital. Did they have a scene in offscreensville where the AMA also suspended his medical license? Is this FAKAKTA show conflating the two?

[dubbel zout]

9 hours ago, ciarra said:

10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Sonny said he couldn't just fire the manager he had

I'm kind of surprised at this.   But then Kristina is a girl child.  If Michael needed the job, the manager would be fired in a millisecond. 

I know. Sonny showing any sort of integrity is always a surprise. But yeah, if it were Michael, Sonny would definitely make room.

They gave Kim a decent reason for not telling Oscar he's sick—she didn't want the specter of death hanging over him—but on the other hand, we're all dying. If Oscar wants to get morose about it, that's his prerogative. Plus, she should have more faith in the kid she raised. He needs to mope for a bit, then let him go nuts on the bucket list.

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

there would be no consequences to Kim;s actions, other than maybe a month at Shadybrook. 

Please, no more women at Shadybrook. I'm tired of Kevin/Ryan at Ferncliffe the way it is.

[YaddaYadda]

Just now, GHScorpiosRule said:

Wait, I thought Griffin was just suspended from the hospital. Did they have a scene in offscreensville where the AMA also suspended his medical license? Is this FAKAKTA show conflating the two?

I could be wrong because honestly, Griffin, but I thought they said medical licence. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I could be wrong because honestly, Griffin, but I thought they said medical licence. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

From what I know, the hospital can’t suspend a medical license-only the American Medical Association can do that. But what do I know?

[BlancheDevoreaux]

47 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I could be wrong because honestly, Griffin, but I thought they said medical licence. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Didn't he tell Julian, after helping Leo when he fell out of the tree, that he wasn't officially a licensed doctor and that Leo needed to go to GH?

[RedRockRosie]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Wait, I thought Griffin was just suspended from the hospital. Did they have a scene in offscreensville where the AMA also suspended his medical license? Is this FAKAKTA show conflating the two?

Well, from what I read it is the State Medical Board that can suspend a physician's license. Usually due to gross negligence or if the physician is somehow incompetent or convicted of a serious criminal offense. There would be a hearing (which I would imagine takes some time to set up) in which case the medical board decides whether to issue a warning, or a suspension or revocation of the license. Reasons for suspension or revocation are set in state law so I don't think Monica or anyone at GH could suspend Griffin's license to practice. Dude is out of a job & a PLACE to practice however.

I HATE when these damn writers can't bother to Google something that I found in about 5 minutes. GAH.

Anyhow...my 2¢.

Edited September 6, 2018 by RedRockRosie

[GHScorpiosRule]

16 minutes ago, RedRockRosie said:

Well, from what I read it is the State Medical Board that can suspend a physician's license. Usually due to gross negligence or if the physician is somehow incompetent or convicted of a serious criminal offense. There would be a hearing (which I would imagine takes some time to set up) in which case the medical board decides whether to issue a warning, or a suspension or revocation of the license. Reasons for suspension or revocation are set in state law so I don't think Monica or anyone at GH could suspend Griffin's license to practice. Dude is out of a job & a PLACE to practice however.

I HATE when these damn writers can't bother to Google something that I found in about 5 minutes. GAH.

Anyhow...my 2¢.

Thanks. That’s what I meant-the State Board. And yup, this FAKAKTA show FUCKED IT UP. Par for the course.

[ByaNose]

5 hours ago, Sake614 said:

BUt Alexis knows the birth mothers identity. So it couldn’t have been Kristina.

I thought Alexis didn't know the bio Mom but Diane did. That said, with Diane knowing it's basically the same thing. I hope they drag the baby Wiley storyline for a good year or so. Back in the day they did this kind of storytelling but now everyone finds out a month later.

[Sake614]

I don't want Michael to EVER find out. Or at least not until Wiley is 15 or so. Which could be next year. But I want Brucas to raise him and love him, and then when the truth comes out, I want him to completely reject all things Corinthos.

And I want a pony. And a Porsche :).

[LexieLily]

4 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I don't want Michael to EVER find out. Or at least not until Wiley is 15 or so. Which could be next year. But I want Brucas to raise him and love him, and then when the truth comes out, I want him to completely reject all things Corinthos.

And I want a pony. And a Porsche :).

But also get to know Monica and the Quartermaines :)

[Pingaponga]

I've changed my mind - Oscar isn't going to die.  They haven't named his illness, other than "cancer", so there is really no "we can take the audience on this journey and educate them about the particularities of this illness", which is what they are doing with Mike's Alzheimer's.   And Stone/Robin's AIDS storyline years and years ago. And whatever it is that Anna has and needs regular treatments for.

If they aren't naming it now - when Oscar's father learns about it, and when his mother talks to her nurse friend about the illness, and when the audience itself learns about it - then I doubt they ever will.  Because it would have been so, so easy to have Kim say to Elizabeth "Oscar has XYZ", and Elizabeth the nurse could have responded "Cancer of the brain? Doesn't that mean whatevertheheckitwouldmean."  And the education of the audience would commence.

But that didn't happen.  Also, two people on the show at the same time with fatal illnesses is too depressing.  We all know Mike will die.  So this will be Griffin's heroic return to medicine and redemption. 

Oscar is being used to redeem Griffin.  Ugh,ugh and more ugh.

[dubbel zout]

20 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

Oscar is being used to redeem Griffin.  Ugh,ugh and more ugh.

Why is this so bad? Asking honestly. It was going to happen eventually anyway, and I'd rather it be Oscar than, say, Avery (who, frankly, is due for some sort of crisis).

[ulkis]

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

Why is this so bad? Asking honestly. It was going to happen eventually anyway, and I'd rather it be Oscar than, say, Avery (who, frankly, is due for some sort of crisis).

Because anything with Griffin is bad. :p Or at least, stultifying.

[TeeVee329]

Why is Brick.

But hey, Obrecht!  What up girl!

Edited September 6, 2018 by TeeVee329

[Perkie]

35 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

So this will be Griffin's heroic return to medicine and redemption. 

Or this is the real introduction of Teri, who's the specialist that's been treating Oscar, unbeknownst to him.  There are rumours that Kristina is about to start a relationship with Teri, so that would get that off and running.  

[statsgirl]

Today's treat was seeing Kathleen Gati back. She even walked like a street person. Also I like that Nina wore dark blue instead of black.

Has Nina's mother faked her dead to escape?  It seems like it's become SOP on this show.

13 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

If I were Alexis I would have wanted to slap the shit out of Sam. Every suggestion Alexis made, none of which was over the top, had Sam reacting as if she were a mental patient who was about to go off.... and Sonny and Kristina were being just as condescending.

Sonny and Sam are idiots because Kristina is pretty useless as she is written these days.  "Oh look, a job for a systems analyst.  I wonder what that is, ha ha ha". She's waiting for a management job to fall into her lap. And of course Carly will oblige.  They deserve each other.  Although I would like Kristina to get a job at Charley's just so Julian can torture her.

Which reminds me that I wanted to Gibbs slap Kristina as she whined about how she doesn't fit in to Parker's academic world.  I was a faculty wife for years; you get out of it what you put in.

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Wait, I thought Griffin was just suspended from the hospital. Did they have a scene in offscreensville where the AMA also suspended his medical license? Is this FAKAKTA show conflating the two?

I agree that the hospital should have suspended Griffin from his job for his HIPPA violation. But the the medical board is who suspends medical licenses and it takes years to go through the system. (The Canadian Medical Association Journal prints out which doctors have been chastised and for what each year.  It seems like half of them are for sexual violations with patients, feels like the other half is not for paperwork right.)

But no matter -- he'll soon be in bed with Kiki again.  She's blames her mother for being upset with that her daughter and SO slept together. Of course it's all Ava's fauilt.  Funny has Kiki has no problem with Sonny keeping Ava from Avery but Ava is the worst for trying to keep her away.

20 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Why is Brick.

So we don't have to have Spinelli.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

How can Griffin and Kiki stand there discussing how evil Ava is an make her the bad guy in this three-way fight?  They boned each other but Ava is the one solely in the wrong.  Oh, what they did was bad but they are just so sorry so they shouldn't be held accountable.  And there goes Kiki throwing her relationship with Sonny in Ava's face. 

 

Watching the previews for tomorrow, the storyline I am most interested in is Kristina getting a job with Julian.  Yes, I'm most excited (loose term here) about something involving Kristina.

[dubbel zout]

35 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Because anything with Griffin is bad. :p Or at least, stultifying.

Ah, gotcha. I thought it had less to do with Griffin and more to do with Oscar. I should have known better. Heh.

13 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Although I would like Kristina to get a job at Charley's just so Julian can torture her.

And give the town more ammo against Pol Pot–Hitler-Stalin-rolled-into-one Julian? To hear Molly crap on him more than usual? To watch Sonny laughably threaten Julian? No, thanks. He'll get crucified the way it is for his part in the baby swap.

[Sake614]

28 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Kristina is about to start a relationship with Teri

I don't want her anywhere near Teri! Can't this child find someone more age-appropriate? 

[statsgirl]

If not Julian, than someone needs to torture Kristina.  Right now she's a waste of the earth's resources.

Any bets that Magda switched places with her lawyer to get out?

I know we're supposed to feel sympathy for Sonny but changing around the home of an Alzheirmer's patient while he's away is really bad.  Get your head out of your ass and get Mike to somewhere with people who know what they're doing.

[LexieLily]

When did Kristina somehow magically lose her college degree? I thought she dropped out of graduate school to be with Parker, which naturally implies she completed her undergrad.

[statsgirl]

I thought she dropped out of her endless undergrad to follow Parker.

I miss the Kristina who wanted to get good grades to get into Yale law school.

Edited September 6, 2018 by statsgirl

[Linny]

I've decided that every time Sonny wrings his hands over this moldering dead body in a pitiful attempt to create tension, I'm just going to tune him out by making a list of characters who deserve to be stuffed in Charlie's foundation along side it. Kristina, Kiki, and Brick are today's winners (put your tongue back in your mouth, Brick, you obnoxious kiss-ass).

I'm shocked Griffin and Anna made it through a conversation without explicitly mentioning the name Duke. Their friendship has fallen under the radar lately, so it was kind of nice to see them touch base with each other and provide a momentary reprieve from the tired dynamics of Griffin/Kiki and Anna/Valentin. 

Vagrant Liesl ambling through the church is going on the list next to that picture of Hunchback Valentin as one of the greatest visuals this show has ever gifted me. That was delightful. Liesl, Nina, and Maxie as the odd, dysfunctional family unit works so well for me every time.

[TeeVee329]

8 minutes ago, Linny said:

Vagrant Liesl

Although, isn't Liesl an international criminal trained by Helena and Faison?  Should she have slush funds here, there, and everywhere that would allow her to go on the run and/or buy a kicky wig at a moment's notice?

Edited September 6, 2018 by TeeVee329

[statsgirl]

She said that she dresses like a vagrant because this way people avoid her.

Sad but probably true.

[ciarra]

3 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I hope they drag the baby Wiley storyline for a good year or so. Back in the day they did this kind of storytelling but now everyone finds out a month later.

Oh hell no.  They kept the Kristina lie going until she was what, 3?  Way too long.  Keeping Danny away from Sam was too long, and the show doesn't understand bonding between a parent and child.   I also hope that Wiley isn't Mikey's kid, so that he can be raised by Brucas, away from Carly's clutches.

[TeeVee329]

Oh that's right.  Still, it would have been amusing if she partnered her vagrant disguise with some rad earrings or an aforementioned kicky wig.

Also, Nina dear?  There's someone else left from your family besides you and baby James (and Liesl).  And I'm not talking about your stupid coma baby.  You have a cousin who was also Nathan's sister, maybe pay her a visit and bring her some issues of "Crimson" to while away the time?

[Perkie]

Show surprised me for a change.  I thought the vagrant was going to be Madeline, not really dead.  Turns out it was Liesl attending her sister's memorial.  

32 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Any bets that Magda switched places with her lawyer to get out?

Madeline was at Pentonville, the lawyer was at Rikers.

 

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

Why is Brick.

So we don't have to have Spinelli.

As annoying as it is, I will take Brick fawning over Carly every day and twice on Sunday, rather than Spinelli fawning over Jason.  But then, that's like saying I'd rather have a kick to the face rather than a kick to the crotch.  

 

49 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

the storyline I am most interested in is Kristina getting a job with Julian.

We don't get previews here, so I haven't seen it yet, but why would Kris get a job workign for Julian?  Are there no other coffee shops, cafes, restaurants, burger shacks, pizza joints in town hiring waitressess?  Heck, who's running Kelly's these days?

 

Ava versus Kiki today, now that was some soapy shite right there, though I didn't care for Kiki;s comment that Sonny lets her see Avery whenever he wants.  Ava barring Kiki from seeing Avery, including on the first day of school, was all kinds of wow.  

Edited September 6, 2018 by Perkie

[Perkie]

12 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Also, Nina dear?  There's someone else left from your family besides you and baby James

I took that to mean that Nina and James are the only Reeves left.  Brit doesn't fall into that category.  

[Cheyanne11]

Quote

the storyline I am most interested in is Kristina getting a job with Julian.

Hard pass.  It'll be used to find out that Julian paid off Wylie's birth mother and Kristina will get accolades for being an "ace investigator" (eyeroll) like her big sister (double eyeroll).  Not to mention Sonny probably threatening Julian 25/8 about how he'd better treat "his little girl" right.

[dubbel zout]

49 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

If not Julian, than someone needs to torture Kristina.

Absolutely, but let it not be someone Sonny already holds a grudge against, which admittedly is a very small list.

40 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I thought she dropped out of her endless undergrad to follow Parker.

I miss the Kristina who wanted to get good grades to get into Yale law school.

Kristina (as nuKristina) originally dropped out of Yale to follow Trey/whatshisface to California. Then she was at Wesleyan where she met Parker, then at PCU for a hot minute. I don't think she graduated from anywhere, the ding-dong. There was talk of business school at PCU, but was that at the grad level? 

I guess because it's girl child Sonny couldn't care less, but given his lack of education, he should be proud any offspring of his gets a college degree.

[statsgirl]

The only Sonny offspring who is a successful adult is Dante who was raised far away from him. That should be Exhibit B in Ava's custody case.

[YaddaYadda]

55 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Any bets that Magda switched places with her lawyer to get out?

Her greedy ass was likely bumped off by Valentine. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by YaddaYadda

[TeeVee329]

She's only been back, what, five episodes and I already need Kristina to enroll in a semester at sea.  Go away please.

ETA...but oh, the one enjoyable thing about her return has been the bitter shipper tears about the complete dismantling of her "supercouple pairing" with Parker.  So sweet.

Edited September 6, 2018 by TeeVee329

[Melgaypet]

"Supercouple," I cannot with that. I understand that queer representation is still pretty bad on soaps, even if it is getting incrementally better, but let's not get so desperate to drink the sand that we call any gay pairing a supercouple. I don't think there has been a gay supercouple yet. Maybe the DAYS boys? Bianca Montgomery's relationships, nope. Brucas has mostly happened offscreen. Even our beloved Kish, @TeeVee329, I wouldn't call a supercouple, given how they were cut short in 2010.

Besides, Parker sucks and doesn't matter as a character. Kristina...sucks also, but she at least has connections all over the place. Have her grow the fuck up and then hook her up with Anna Donely or something, and I might invest.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Melgaypet

[TeeVee329]

4 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

"Supercouple," I cannot with that.

Same.  Just because you stan a pairing doesn't make it a supercouple.  

And gawd, these fans screaming for months that Parker should have been on contract.  Yes, Robert has to recur and there's no Lucky and Serena Baldwin only gets to come to town every fifteen years when someone dies in real life, but sure, PARKER needs a contract. #eyeroll

And I want to be sympathetic because, you know, everyone can like whatever they like and I tend to prefer the underdog/second tier couples to the marquee ones, but... 

[LillyB]

I can't stand Krissy. I think that she is self absorbed, entitled bitch who has no problem using people and whining while doing it.

Edited September 6, 2018 by LillyB

[Melgaypet]

7 minutes ago, LillyB said:

I can't stand Krissy. I think that she is self absorbed, entitled bitch who has no problem using people.

Her father's daughter.

[Asp Burger]

36 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

I don't think there has been a gay supercouple yet. Maybe the DAYS boys? Bianca Montgomery's relationships, nope. Brucas has mostly happened offscreen. Even our beloved Kish, @TeeVee329, I wouldn't call a supercouple, given how they were cut short in 2010.

Yes, I think Will and Sonny are the class of the field so far. When they were played by Chandler Massey and Freddie Smith, they really were the best thing on their show for a time,. They were also undeniably part of the modern highlight reel of DOOL, in that everyone was talking about them, the handling of their story was praised, and the praise was deserved. And it was a bold choice, because they were both young male members of core families. They were going there with Will, the baby at the center of all the Carrie/Austin/Sami/Lucas turmoil in the '90s. He was like the DOOL answer to Michael! 

My own definition of supercouple is a pairing that survives separations, changes of creative regime, maybe even recasting of one or both characters, and still has a passionate following that connects the characters. I'm not a consistent and devoted enough DOOL viewer to know how Wilson stacks up against the couplings of that show that qualify (Bo and Hope, John and Marlena, Jack and Jennifer), but I'd call them easily the best gay couple on a daytime soap.  

Parker and Kristina...oh, please. They barely got out of the gate.

[dubbel zout]

The actors have to have chemistry, too. Especially if you're going to put a couple together under iffy circumstances, like student-teacher dalliance, the actors need to really connect so that overrides the gross situation. I don't think Lexi Ainsworth and Ashley Jones had any chemistry. It didn't help the show teased Parker for weeks before we found out anything about her, and then the pacing was so terrible nothing happened for ages.

[statsgirl]

It also didn't help that not only did the actress playing Parker look like Lexi Ainsworth's mother, Kristina is such a twit that she had to act like a mother too.

[dubbel zout]

In the first scene today, Kristina said there weren't too many jobs out there for people without a college degree, so the nitwit never graduated.

Ugh, Brick sucking up to Carly was gross, and the worst part was LW's annoying laugh never stopped. And of course Sonny is the one who's not ready for Mike to go to a facility. How about they try it on a day basis and see how it goes?

I liked Jordan's outfit. That color combination looked great on her.

[NutmegsDad]

I'm calling it: Stella's lost love will be played by Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs.

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 minutes ago, NutmegsDad said:

I'm calling it: Stella's lost love will be played by Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs.

HI THERE!

????????

[nilyank]

5 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

How can Griffin and Kiki stand there discussing how evil Ava is an make her the bad guy in this three-way fight?  They boned each other but Ava is the one solely in the wrong.  Oh, what they did was bad but they are just so sorry so they shouldn't be held accountable.  And there goes Kiki throwing her relationship with Sonny in Ava's face. 

 

It is one thing for Ava to demand Kiki to stay away from Avery which as her mom she get to have some say on that but she is only doing this to hurt Kiki and more importantly, Avery.

However, Ava called her a daughter a WHORE. That is downright hateful and makes their relationship even more dysfunctional. I totally believe that Kiki is going to end up being Nina's secret daughter.