Episode Discussion: TFGH

[IWantCandy71]

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 8:45 PM, Ambrosefolly said:

As Finn didn't do any of those things,like you said, so as wrong as Brad is and probably will be, if Brad doesn't assault Finn severely, I am not going to feel too sorry Finn for whatever Brad dishes out. Did Finn have to donate both his and Brad's shares of the profits? I am thinking no since the Qs were still putting up money to save the hospital. If he didn't have enough time to ask Brad to donate his cut of the profits, than he is only entitled to donate his portion, which I am guessing is still substantial. So Finn will probably have a great deal of power (he already has a great deal of leeway) and Brad won't warrant a seat on the Hospital Board. 

If I have to take my pick of characters, I think that Brad is the more interesting character than Finn and Perry Shen is the more engaged actor (of course Brad might benefit from Perry Shen's acting).FV was bending over to reintegrate Michael Easton for the third (forth if you count Stephen Clay) into the canvas and you see Brad once in a blue moon, so it isn't surprising that Finn seems to be more fleshed out.  Mind you I am not a Lucas/Brad shipper and the show never bothered to tell a convincing story why Lucas would pursue a relationship with Brad, let alone marry him after a short time. But I have the opposite reaction. The reason why a amoral character like Brad is working for me now is precisely because he does have a sympathetic position despite the fact he is a selfish jerk to his core. It also doesn't help Finn that Brad hasn't done a thing to Finn that warranted Finn stealing Brad's cut nor does his behavior to Brad afterwards. 

I think Perry Shen is a decent actor at comedy. However,  the few truly dramatic scenes he has had, where he had to show range, have been cringeworthy to me. If I can feel an actor "acting", it takes me out of the moment, and that's how I feel when Perry tries to be "sincere" in a dramatic scene. Many actors have said comedy is far harder than drama, so maybe he's a good actor whose strength lies in natural comic relief. IDK.

As far as the whole ME debacle-nope, not even touching that one. I will say, he and JE gave the brightest moments of the show for me in the past year. It's not much, but it's the only reason I bothered with GH in that time frame. And now that she's gone, well. *shrug* I like Finn, but I don't have it in me to care enough to bother to watch with no JE.

Edited May 17, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[Linny]

"Nelle could be in serious trouble because thanks to us she only has one kidney left!" No, really? That sounds important, you should have mentioned that before. Michael did an adequate job at displaying worry for Nelle, but she's literally hooked up to machines monitoring her vitals and I still can't find a pulse between her and Michael. Are they ever going to accept that there's zero romantic chemistry between these two and save us from this forced pairing?

Sonny's such a sleaze, looking for one last fuck from Martina. He was so confident that she was a sure thing, and I hate that she proved him right.

Putting Andre and Nina in a scene together is like taking an Ambien and chasing it with a few lines of coke. His energy is usually at rock bottom, while she's always fidgety and weird. Strangely enough, I didn't hate their scenes, even though I normally have no use for Andre. 

[TeeVee329]

Wow this episode really lived up to Frank's Twitter hype. #not

Can the writers stop being coy and give us some straight-ahead details on what happened between Anna and Alex, why Alex is doing this, etc.?  I'm sure non-AMC viewers are even more confused.  "Anna has a twin sister?  Since when?".

Also, why was Andre behind the bar at the MetroCourt?

Michael blubbering about Nelle, I can't.

Edited May 17, 2017 by TeeVee329

[HeatLifer]

19 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

Or they were worried about losing the Friz fanbase to Griffin's character. There isn't much else they could do with Franco if RoHo publicly lost his love interest to a more popular pairing, and a lot of people would root for anything that wasn't Franco 

Well, that would be agenda. Not true shippers for Griffin/Liz. Griffin's boring bland ass is the one character I bet would lose to Franco. I say that in a very sad tone.

[LexieLily]

I'm glad for Lulu that she told Valentin calmly what was up and insisted that Charlotte stay, and I am even more impressed with her that she informed the social worker before she even stepped onto school property what was going on. Now there is a record that Charlotte's custodial parents were negligent for this day in her care.

This makes it twice of the two times we have seen on screen that Valentin went to Lulu's when she had Charlotte to infringe on their time. Charlotte was asleep on the couch and comfortable and safe, Valentin would have made it worse if he attempted to take her home. Good for Lulu for standing up for herself and what was best for Charlotte right then.

The Falconeri family plus Charlotte scenes were adorable.

[ulkis]

Martina: I could make the old song new again.

That sounds like a meta statement. "I can make this Brendabot stuff great!"

And the thing is, she does seem decent. But Sonny has played this song a looot. But maybe the Sonny fans will like the pairing.

[dubbel zout]

25 minutes ago, Linny said:

Sonny's such a sleaze, looking for one last fuck from Martina. He was so confident that she was a sure thing, and I hate that she proved him right.

Ugh, he was such a condescending tool. Martina. GURL. Run away from the dimples.

3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

I am even more impressed with her that she informed the social worker before she even stepped onto school property what was going on.

It was a nice change to see Lulu not self-sabotage for a change. But this: "I stroked her hair while she dropped off. She's so beautiful" was slightly creepy to me, mainly because Lulu is so desperate to get Charlotte. For everyone's sake, including Charlotte, she needs to let things happen at their own pace. Lulu and Valentin will always have to deal with each other because of Charlotte. 

I love how Michael didn't call Nina or Valentin to tell them about Nelle. 

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:

Well, that would be agenda. Not true shippers for Griffin/Liz. Griffin's boring bland ass is the one character I bet would lose to Franco. I say that in a very sad tone.

What's your agenda, that you keep trying to cockblock poor Griffin? ;)

[Perkie]

8 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

This is a soap opera so, why aren't more people having sex?

 

Sonny had sex with Carly's lawyer just last week.  What more do you want?

8 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

When was the last time there was actual onscreen sex?

Sonny had sex with Carly's lawyer just last week.  

8 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Why are there only 4 characters in the mid-twenties age range? And two of them are related by blood, and 2 by marriage?

Because Sonny must drive all story and he ain't in the mid twenties range.  

9 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Will we ever see Liez's boyssssssss Clement, Archibald, and NotDeadJake, together again?

Clavicle and Achtung are actually undercover FBI agents and must not be seen in the same room together.  

9 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Griffin is kinda hot, so why isn't he getting laid?

He's a priest.  Also, he's not Sonny so he's not allowed.

9 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Why aren't the younger characters (besides Lulu's baby rabies) driving more story?

Because only Sonny can drive story.  

9 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Why is there still too many damn characters

Because lazy writers find it easier to write for new characters rather than current ones.  

9 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being cringe inducing shame, finger pointing, and hysterical laughter, how bad do we think this year's Nurse's Ball will be?

Eleventy eleven.  Unpopular opinion but I hate the Nurses's Ball.  So much second hand embarasment.  

[HeatLifer]

9 minutes ago, ulkis said:

What's your agenda, that you keep trying to cockblock poor Griffin? ;)

To get him off the show. Was that not clear? Pretty sure he was partly hired 'cause he was besties with Billy, too.

Edited May 17, 2017 by HeatLifer

[ulkis]

1 minute ago, HeatLifer said:

Pretty sure he was partly hired 'cause he was besties with Billy, too.

Well then it makes sense they don't seem to know what the hell to do with him then.

[HeatLifer]

1 minute ago, ulkis said:

Well then it makes sense they don't seem to know what the hell to do with him then.

Yep. 90% of the new hires on the show since Ron/Frank were because of personal friendships and relationships. 

[ulkis]

9 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Eleventy eleven.  Unpopular opinion but I hate the Nurses's Ball.  So much second hand embarasment.  

I don't think that's a UO. :) It's definitely not among the actors, they all HATE it reportedly.

[dubbel zout]

I can't blame them. The striptease is beyond embarrassing (pace jsbt); the production is done super cheaply, even with a sponsor; and given the minimums, the cast is never all together at the same time, which was one of the main points of it in the first place. I appreciate Ron reviving it in principle, but in practice it's a joke.

[peachmangosteen]

I agree with everything you guys are saying about the Nurse's Ball, but I still love it. It's precisely the kind of horrible that I enjoy.

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I'm sure non-AMC viewers are even more confused.  "Anna has a twin sister?  Since when?".

I can't even imagine how people watching who have no idea who Alex is are feeling about this story.

I skipped most of today just because I was busy. I don't really remember anything I watched lol.

[Cheyanne11]

The Nurses Ball has become a joke since they resurrected it a few years ago.  Back in the mid-90's it was emotional and heartfelt.  Now it's about Cheetwood #2 getting his two episodes a year to show off his body.  

[TeeVee329]

Am I the only one terrified we're going to get some extended memorial to Sabrina (who?) as part of the ball this year?

As I said in the spoiler thread, my one request is that Alex accidentally refers to it as "the Crystal Ball".

[LexieLily]

That would require someone to remember she is dead. Michael got over her in two minutes and is too busy wanting to date his aunt.

[lor]

so who's going to give nelle a kidney? 

what does alex need this chimera thing for? how is she going to get it away from jake? 

sonny and that lawyer are gross. i hope he doesnt get her pregnant. sonny already has too many children.   i could see carly yell you betrayed me with that bitch,slut.  

[Blackie]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

I can't even imagine how people watching who have no idea who Alex is are feeling about this story.

That would be me!  I have no interest in this storyline, I have no time to waste to read up on who this Alex is or bother the good people on this forum with a bunch of questions.  I just fast forward through it.  I feel not appreciated as a GH fan, but I think we have all felt that for a loooong time with these stupid storylines.

[TeeVee329]

And sadly, as I keep saying, the writers could have spun something fun and soapy with Anna/Alex, but they have just not. 

[dubbel zout]

The setup took way too long. Nothing on this fakakta show is paced properly.

[rur]

7 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Ugh, he was such a condescending tool. Martina. GURL. Run away from the dimples.

Not just a condescending tool. He was every 40+ year old man who's ever believed he was the hottest thing ever trying to convince a younger, single woman to have sex with him. He wasn't cute; he wasn't romantic; he wasn't engaging: he was just disgusting.

[ciarra]

Today's episode seemed like it was 3 hours long.

DZ shaved.  Was hoping Martina was already gone.  Still don't give a crap about Nelle. 

[Hope4Soaps]

9 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Can the writers stop being coy and give us some straight-ahead details on what happened between Anna and Alex, why Alex is doing this, etc.?  I'm sure non-AMC viewers are even more confused.  "Anna has a twin sister?  Since when?".

http://www.soapoperaspy.com/2017/general-hospital-spoilers-who-is-alex-devane-everything-you-need-to-know-about-annas-twin-sister/

[IWantCandy71]

15 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

The Nurses Ball has become a joke since they resurrected it a few years ago

The nurse's ball has always been a hideous thing. I've never NOT had second hand embarrassment for the actors.

Edited May 18, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[TeeVee329]

8 hours ago, Hope4Soaps said:

http://www.soapoperaspy.com/2017/general-hospital-spoilers-who-is-alex-devane-everything-you-need-to-know-about-annas-twin-sister/

But that's exactly my point.  I know who Alex is from watching AMC, but viewers who don't shouldn't have to research her online.  That's bad storytelling.

Edited May 18, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Asp Burger]

I do get it, but I'll give them a pass on this one. If you watched AMC in that era, you're in on it, and probably had already guessed it. If you didn't, well...Anna has a twin. Then, this is like her first appearance to you, and the storyline is that "Anna has a twin." They'll fill in the need-to-know parts as the story develops, one guesses.

It isn't nearly as bad as a few years ago when the whole show got consumed by that vampire crap from a failed spinoff of a decade earlier, and new actors suddenly were running around. I had such a "What the hell?" reaction to that that I stopped watching for a while. However, that was in the same era as pickle relish and the constant talk about The Chew, and I cannot really remember which one was the tipping point. 

But I don't care about much of anything going on right now, enough to mount a vigorous defense of anything. 

Oh, Latest Brenda Clone. Sonny has no dignity left to lose, and "sense of self" is pretty much the only sense he has. Also, shut up.

Edit: As a result of clicking on that "Alex background" link above, I've just learned that Anthony Addabbo died in October of last year. Sad. Used to watch him on Generations, B&B, GL, AMC. 

Edited May 18, 2017 by Asp Burger

[Cheyanne11]

Ugh, Sonny is so vile.  And Laugh of the Day goes to Brenda Clone telling his he'll "lose his dignity" in this divorce.  Oh, girl, that train left the station in 1994.

[TeeVee329]

41 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

I do get it, but I'll give them a pass on this one. If you watched AMC in that era, you're in on it, and probably had already guessed it. If you didn't, well...Anna has a twin. Then, this is like her first appearance to you, and the storyline is that "Anna has a twin." They'll fill in the need-to-know parts as the story develops, one guesses.

I think the show leans on that narrative trick too much, dropping in something out of nowhere and then filling in the blanks, i.e. the Jake storyline as well.  I think it would have worked better if they had had Anna and Alex interact for an episode, set up something for the GH viewer about what their history is, and then had Alex attack/imprison Anna or whatever and then we could have followed her back to Port Charles.  There was no need for the "GOTCHA!", IMO.

Edited May 18, 2017 by TeeVee329

[MarciNJ]

Why was Carly at the hospital picking up Joss' anti rejection meds?  Do they not have a Walgreens or CVS in Port Charles?  And, it seems to me like she'd be taking that medication every single month, so why isn't it being auto-shipped to her?  What the hell kind of insurance plan is she on??

And Nelle - if she was planning to leave town, why didn't she call Jax to take him up on his financial offer that he said would always be on the table?

[TeeVee329]

I'm glad Robin and Emma caught on to Alex (I can't remember, did Robin meet Alex during her brief AMC pop-in?) and Anna showing up at the end was some decent soap.  Hopefully they'll actually explain why Alex is acting like this tomorrow.

Oh goody, Dr. Michael Easton whining to his lady love about his demons, I certainly didn't get enough of that from John McBain. #eyeroll

Nice to see Laura, even if she's still not getting any real story.

[dubbel zout]

Sheesh, why don't they just have Brad grow a mustache and twirl it? Talk about anvils that he's messing with Finn. (Not that we needed today to confirm that.)

Just now, TeeVee329 said:

Oh goody, Dr. Michael Easton whining to his lady love about his demons, I certainly didn't get enough of that from John McBain. #eyeroll

Or Cyrus. 

[Lunula]

On 5/17/2017 at 7:25 AM, Badsamaritan said:

10) On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being cringe inducing shame, finger pointing, and hysterical laughter, how bad do we think this year's Nurse's Ball will be?

 

22 hours ago, Perkie said:

Eleventy eleven.  Unpopular opinion but I hate the Nurses's Ball.  So much second hand embarasment.  

Is it an unpopular opinion? Who here really enjoys the Nurse's Ball? I like it, in concept - and I will always like Lucy - but it is beyond cringe-worthy and I actually feel bad for the actors during 95% of the show. OMG, the strip show? Jeez. Seriously? I typically fast forward through most of it, but call me silly, I kinda like seeing all the pretty dresses. 

[movingtargetgal]

Today's ending was pure soapy goodness.  Writers, could we PLEASE get more of this?

[LexieLily]

I love that it took a nine year old child less than five minutes to figure out what a town full of adults including police officers that are Anna's friends couldn't figure out in over two months.

Lulu needs to start taking notes or recording all of her convos with Valentin so she would have proof to show the social worker that he is not working with her to facilitate a relationship with Charlotte. She should have made her request for more time while the social worker was still there.

Edited May 18, 2017 by LexieLily

[TeeVee329]

2 minutes ago, movingtargetgal said:

Today's ending was pure soapy goodness.  Writers, could we PLEASE get more of this?

I kinda wish Robin had started tugging at Alex's face.  "Are you wearing a mask, ARE YOU FAISON?"

But gawd, poor Robin.  She's been in town five seconds and she's already in a (soapy) mess.

Edited May 18, 2017 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sheesh, why don't they just have Brad grow a mustache and twirl it? Talk about anvils that he's messing with Finn. (Not that we needed today to confirm that.)

Or Cyrus. 

Is that a genuine mistake or did you type "Cyrus" on purpose lol?

[Linny]

My only genuine takeaway from this episode is that I want some of Dante's chocolate chip pancakes. This is what I get for skipping lunch.

For real, though, this was 95% boring, 5% Robin and Emma being awesome. I don't care about Nelle's health and Michael waiting outside her door like a good dog, I don't care about Brad vs. Finn because they both suck, nobody's surprised Hayden wants to keep the baby so whatever, and Kiki and Dillon were a waste of time. I'm actually looking forward to the Nurse's Ball even though it always gives me secondhand embarrassment, because at least I'll feel something other than apathy.

[TeeVee329]

1 minute ago, Linny said:

I don't care about Nelle's health and Michael waiting outside her door like a good dog

That was excruciating.  This relationship is soap quicksand.

[ulkis]

I'm kinda surprised Hayden wants the baby lol. I thought that Hayden would get an abortion and Dr Finn would be mad about it.

[dubbel zout]

Not that I expect nuance from these writers, but they could put in a line somewhere that one reason Brad is mad about the whole cure business is that Finn made a unilateral decision to give the patent to the hospital (or whatever happened—I forget and don't care). It's not only greed on Brad's part that he's so angry (though of course the money is a big part). 

23 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I love how Michael didn't call Nina or Valentin to tell them about Nelle.

He finally does it a day later. He had nothing to do all night!

3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Is that a genuine mistake or did you type "Cyrus" on purpose lol?

LOL. Total mistake.

[Perkie]

4 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Today's ending was pure soapy goodness.

This show does a lot of things wrong, A LOT, but every now and again it gives me something that just makes my day.  Pure soapy, silly goodness.  And who was involved?  Not the Corinthi.  Not the Cassadine/Reeves.  Not the Franco or JaSams.  Nope.  My Scorpios.  Loved, loved, loved Emma being the one to figure it out. Girl has inherited her grandfather's smarts.  Loved that Robin, who at first was all, what are you talking about, didn't dismiss Emma outright,(Liz, I'm looking at you) but very quickly picked up on something herself.  Then to have real Anna show up behind fake Anna, well that's what soaps are and should be about.  

Is it weird to anyone else that Laura went home to change between the scene at Kelly's and the scene at the hospital? 

[ulkis]

They need to recast Lucas. I like Ryan Carnes a lot, but I'm starting to think Lucas is honking a horn somewhere with Audrey.

[TeeVee329]

2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

They need to recast Lucas. I like Ryan Carnes a lot, but I'm starting to think Lucas is honking a horn somewhere with Audrey.

Is it a problem of Ryan Carnes' availability?  I just think they don't want to write the Brad/Lucas relationship.

[Vella]

Again, I initially sympathize with Lulu (wanting to get a bit more time with Charlotte, wanting to show Charlotte is happy with Lulu) and then she completely overplays her hand (citing marital issues between Valentin/Nina) and then gets to the heart of it by again, greedily grabbing for Charlotte without consideration of how Charlotte feels. Sympathy GONE. 

[dubbel zout]

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

Is it a problem of Ryan Carnes' availability?  I just think they don't want to write the Brad/Lucas relationship.

Probably a bit of both. He doesn't want to be on contract, but they aren't writing the couple either.

[Perkie]

Uhm, so Alex spent the night at the bottom of the stairs?  Valentin ties her than leaves.  So, she decides to nap there all night, then wake up this morning to untie herself?  It's not like he knocked her out before leaving, she was alive and awake when he left.  

[TeeVee329]

Valentin is the worst at Cassadine.

[statsgirl]

Why was Laura wearing a pink and white sweater with a white shirt at Kelly's, and a black and white striped sweater with a black T shirt at the hospital?  Is she one of those people who is so hopeless at dressing herself she buys one thing in every colour to make it easier?

Was Brad paid for his work on developing the drug?  Because if he wasn't and there was an expectation of reimbursement, then absolutely he deserves some of the money.  Shut up, Hayden.  Although Brad should be suing rather than sabotaging.

Is that the same Emma?  Wow, she's grown!

Did anyone catch what Valentin was saying to Charlotte?  All I could understand was "cherchez le cholere (look for the anger) and it couldn't be that.  Something about l'ecole?

Nelle was repeatedly kicked and yet she has no bruises.  Kiki is more excited about passing her nurse's aid exam than most people are at getting into medical school.