Episode Discussion: TFGH

[P3pp3rb1rd]

6 hours ago, Darklazr said:

Die, Franco, just die!

I had to check out the homeless hungry dude at the shelter very closely because I thought for the first couple of minutes it was FREAKO with different face foliage. Did anyone else think the man resembled Freako in a thin disguise? Could they be related, or is it a coincidence?

[P3pp3rb1rd]

I shot a raspberry at Nelle as she traipsed around the MetroCourt swinging her long hair and scheduling hotel events. I still don't understand why Sonny is so nervous at the idea that Nelle may have ridden his pepperoni, since Carly had moved out of Chez Corinthos  by that time. He could tell her that "everybody grieves in their own way."

Edited January 6, 2017 by P3pp3rb1rd

[NutmegsDad]

13 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

I was a little late noticing that Alison Sweeney (Sami, DOOL) is directing episodes of General Hospital now. I looked it up when I saw the credit on Tuesday's (?) show, and it was not just a name coincidence, and not her first time. Well, good for her. I imagine long experience as a soap actor is helpful in making that transition.  

On the downsize, she had to direct the Val/Nina and Sonny/Carly bed scenes. She deserves a shot at a #TGIT Show.

 

13 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Today's show was the pits. Boy, that Sam is some detective. Way to extract information from a person over whom you know you have emotional leverage -- be curt and bitchy from the start. Can this really be the former host of Everyday Heroes?  <snerk> 

And she called him out on playing the family card??

 

12 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

13 hours ago, ulkis said:

13 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Also, I like gruff bartender, too. He got me to actually watch a Franco scene!

I like him better than Coleman. Coleman was a sleeze. Gruff bartender has integrity, damn it.

Aw, I liked Coleman. He was out for himself and made no bones about it. I hated that they involved him the stupid Levi story, but I thought his relationship with OG Kate Howard had promise. So of course it was played for laughs.

His last storyline where he was caught pawning something to make him Irredeemable and Everyone Yelling at Him as he Goes to Jail was dismal. Bring him back. We've redeemed worse.

I wasn't bother too much for Curtis and Jason going Good Cop/Hulk Cop on Don Swayze, since he put the bomb in the car (in their mind). Trying to say, "Gee we should do more to help the homeless" to cover up tracking him was skeevy.

I was waiting for Edith Keeler to come out to lecture the homeless, and for a Big Reveal of Julian's Big Bad to be Alexis Carrington Colby.

[LeftPhalange]

I don't know what my favorite part of the episode was:

A) Boring ass Michael promising to teach that worthless wet drip girl how to have fun followed by him hoping his parents get back together.

B) Carly getting back with Sonny instead of dramatically throwing some gun into the water and burning down his house with him, Ava, Kiki, Freako, Julian, and that worthless wet drip girl inside. 

C) Sam and Jason at a homeless shelter helping Sonny clear his name instead of spending time with Danny and plotting Freako's murder.

D) Ava having another repetitive conversation with Julian.

E) Alexis having scenes with Freako. I mean, really, she's a drunk and has to deal with Julian and his sister on a regular basis. Why punish her more?

F) This stupid retcon Jelly are pulling out of their asses regarding Julian and his big bad lady boss.

[Cheyanne11]

3 hours ago, NutmegsDad said:

I wasn't bother too much for Curtis and Jason going Good Cop/Hulk Cop on Don Swayze, since he put the bomb in the car (in their mind). Trying to say, "Gee we should do more to help the homeless" to cover up tracking him was skeevy.

 

Because you know it's never going to happen--much like Sam and Jason's big move to Whispering Pines (or whatever that town name was) was never going to happen.  

[dubbel zout]

2 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

Julian and his big bad lady boss

I cracked up at Jason's "Whaa? A lady boss?" face when Buzz (FFS, Show, with that name) mentioned that.

31 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

much like Sam and Jason's big move to Whispering Pines (or whatever that town name was)

Wasn't it Twin Peaks? ;-)

[HeatLifer]

45 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Because you know it's never going to happen--much like Sam and Jason's big move to Whispering Pines (or whatever that town name was) was never going to happen.  

It still cracks me up that Jason was the one who wanted to move and didn't even consider Sam or how she'd feel leaving her family and then he was like, "Oh, I just said that because Liz/Jake were  gonna leave and now they're staying, so whatevs." And Sam just nodded her head like that wasn't outrageous.

[TeeVee329]

Jelly has done a lot of that, these little story cul-de-sacs that go nowhere.  The not-Luke skeleton is another good example. 

[LeftPhalange]

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Jelly has done a lot of that, these little story cul-de-sacs that go nowhere.  The not-Luke skeleton is another good example. 

Or Nelly. I really wouldn't be surprised if this *story* were dropped or completely shifted in a different direction before anyone finds out why she's here/what she wants/what she's doing. Especially if they're serious about pairing Michael with another vanilla wafer. 

[Oracle42]

It just feels like the script writers are instructed to burn time so that the contract actors meet their guarantees without developing the relationships or stories in any way.

[LexieLily]

18 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Jelly has done a lot of that, these little story cul-de-sacs that go nowhere.  The not-Luke skeleton is another good example. 

We never found out who was "stalking" JaSam in that barn, did we? No, but wait, we got to see Franco acting appalled that Jason and Sam would think it was him and we got to see him leering creepily at Sam and calling her a barn animal :/

[TeeVee329]

9 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

Or Nelly. I really wouldn't be surprised if this *story* were dropped or completely shifted in a different direction before anyone finds out why she's here/what she wants/what she's doing. Especially if they're serious about pairing Michael with another vanilla wafer. 

The Nelle story is an actual story, though, playing out in a somewhat prominent way, week after week.  I'm talking about things like Sam and Jason moving, or the non-Luke skeleton, or even the idea of the hospital being bought and turned into condos, these story beats that are introduced and almost immediately dismissed.

[LeftPhalange]

13 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

We never found out who was "stalking" JaSam in that barn, did we? No, but wait, we got to see Franco acting appalled that Jason and Sam would think it was him and we got to see him leering creepily at Sam and calling her a barn animal :/

Only on GH is a rapist serial killer allowed to call one of his victims a barn animal and not have his balls cut off.

[mybabyaidan]

I have only been watching sporadically, don't care for the Franco show.

It was made pretty clear that Curtis volunteers at that shelter every Friday, so he wasn't just doing it for the case.  I have a hard time seeing Jason actually continuing to do it though, that dialogue was stupid.  And they weren't just bullying some random homeless guy, they knew exactly who he was when he walked up to them.  The guy that actually planted the bomb, so he wasn't just some innocent dude they were interrogating.

I really liked the Sam/Julian scenes.  I love how delusional Julian is when it comes to his family.  He knows perfectly well how Sam feels about him right now, so him thinking it was some father/daughter lunch gab session was funny.  I like how Sam is definitely not completely emotionally cut off from him either, she seems conflicted. 

[Oracle42]

1 minute ago, mybabyaidan said:

  I have a hard time seeing Jason actually continuing to do it though, that dialogue was stupid.

The entire scene felt like something from a completely different soap

[dubbel zout]

6 minutes ago, mybabyaidan said:

The guy that actually planted the bomb, so he wasn't just some innocent dude they were interrogating.

It still doesn't give them the right to harass him in the homeless shelter, an ostensibly safe space. At least take him outside.

7 minutes ago, mybabyaidan said:

I love how delusional Julian is when it comes to his family.  He knows perfectly well how Sam feels about him right now, so him thinking it was some father/daughter lunch gab session was funny. 

Same here. I like how WdV plays these scenes: Julian gets kind of offended when he's called on his crap, but he also knows the person is right. (At least, when that person isn't Alexis.) He doesn't get all outraged! the nerve! the way Sonny does when anyone points out his failings.

[Ambrosefolly]

16 minutes ago, mybabyaidan said:

I have only been watching sporadically, don't care for the Franco show.

It was made pretty clear that Curtis volunteers at that shelter every Friday, so he wasn't just doing it for the case.  I have a hard time seeing Jason actually continuing to do it though, that dialogue was stupid.  And they weren't just bullying some random homeless guy, they knew exactly who he was when he walked up to them.  The guy that actually planted the bomb, so he wasn't just some innocent dude they were interrogating.

I really liked the Sam/Julian scenes.  I love how delusional Julian is when it comes to his family.  He knows perfectly well how Sam feels about him right now, so him thinking it was some father/daughter lunch gab session was funny.  I like how Sam is definitely not completely emotionally cut off from him either, she seems conflicted. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

It still doesn't give them the right to harass him in the homeless shelter, an ostensibly safe space. At least take him outside.

 

Agree about the homeless shelter being some safe space and Curtis and Jason(the hitman!) aren't police officers either. Police officers would get in trouble if they did that, even if the person was guilty. 

[HeatLifer]

Jason and Curtis walk around like they're in some buddy cop sitcom.

[Vella]

34 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

42 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

It still doesn't give them the right to harass him in the homeless shelter, an ostensibly safe space. At least take him outside.

 

Agree about the homeless shelter being some safe space and Curtis and Jason(the hitman!) aren't police officers either. Police officers would get in trouble if they did that, even if the person was guilty. 

Not to mention, they didn't actually realize that Buzz thought he was putting a tracker on a car, was upset he'd been used in a murder and was bent on getting revenge on Rudge himself. They were just 'WE KNOW BEST!' stomping and growling all over that shelter making assumptions and presuming he was guilty of killing Stupidface. These idiots are trying to clear a MOB BOSS from one of the few random murders he isn't responsible for in town. They still look like idiots who have zero problems pushing less fortunate and more desperate people around.  The fact that Curtis was okay with this happening to a homeless man and doing it right there in the shelter tells me he doesn't help run the food line regularly. He had zero understanding of what he was doing. Jason has always been a pompous, arrogant know it all snotface, I just hate seeing Curtis fall in line.

[tricknasty]

My sympathies to the victims and families affected by the shootings at the Ft. Lauderdale airport. With that said why is ABC showing an endless loop of the situation with no new details instead of airing this POS show?

[Linny]

We couldn't even get through a week of 2017 without GH being preempted due to a mass shooting. God bless the USA.

[ulkis]

talk in another thread reminded me of Griffin. Hasn't he been here since February? At first I thought Nathan might be leaving because they were gonna put Griffin with Maxie, but that looks like it's going nowhere. Seriously, they hired this sorta-kinda-of-a-get and they've done nooooothiiiing with him for a year. That's nuts.

[dubbel zout]

That's TFGH.

[CookieBud]

Will they air it on Monday or does the east coast just miss out?

[P3pp3rb1rd]

34 minutes ago, CookieBud said:

Will they air it on Monday or does the east coast just miss out?

I'm in CST, and we were also cut out. I only watched 30 minutes. Same scenes over and over, no new details, whereas you could switch to CNN and get new pictures and details. It was as if our network was making a soap opera of the real news incident happening in Fla.!

I am so sick of Julian and Alexis acting like a cobra and a mongoose in that country house he gave her for an engagement present. We got unexpected comic gold though when Ava the Barfly, a not-so-amateur mixologist herself, popped in yesterday to berate Julian about Alexis's drinking and suggested an intervention.

Edited January 6, 2017 by P3pp3rb1rd

[ulkis]

28 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

That's TFGH.

Nah, I've never seen anything as egregious as Griffin's case. Usually it's something like with Matt, where Frons or whoever wanted to steal him from DAYS and so made Guza write for him, so he begrudgingly gave him a scene once a month or so. With Griffin, you can tell they want to write for him, they just have no idea where to shove him. The whole priest angle was really a horrible idea. well, actually, so was making him Duke's son with some random woman. Maybe if Duke was actually on the show that would have made more sense.

[dubbel zout]

That's been the pattern with most of the new hires, though. Big burst of activity for a few weeks/months (however long the initial story plays out), and then it's back burner time, because after the initial story, the writers have no idea what to do. They never think beyond the current story.

Edited January 6, 2017 by dubbel zout

[Oracle42]

I think they also don't have real plans for FV's hires. So they think of something to quickly add them to the cast without considering a long-term plan - looking at you, Silas McFinn

[P3pp3rb1rd]

Just now, dubbel zout said:

That's been the pattern with most of the new hires, though. Big burst of activity for a few weeks/months (however long the initial story plays out), and then it's back burner time, because after the initial story, the writers have no idea what to do. They never think beyond the present.

The shiny toys lose their bling so the immature writer minds wander away from them.

[LexieLily]

12 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

That's been the pattern with most of the new hires, though. Big burst of activity for a few weeks/months (however long the initial story plays out), and then it's back burner time, because after the initial story, the writers have no idea what to do. They never think beyond the current story.

But yet Hayden has been here for two (?) years and immediately went from the Nikolas story and being widow Cassadine to being Liz's sister and apparently dying from whatever it is Finn has.

[dubbel zout]

27 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

That's been the pattern with most of the new hires, though.

27 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

But yet Hayden has been here for two (?) years and immediately went from the Nikolas story and being widow Cassadine to being Liz's sister and apparently dying from whatever it is Finn has.

 

Emphasis mine.

[LexieLily]

Sorry, dubbel zout, I didn't see the 'most' ;)

is Claudette supposed to come back, do we know? Or was her story essentially to drop off Charlotte in Port Charles?

[dubbel zout]

2 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

is Claudette supposed to come back, do we know? Or was her story essentially to drop off Charlotte in Port Charles?

1) I hope not. 2) I hope so. We do not need more Claudette in this story. Though the bitch in me wants her to return and take Valentin's side during the custody battle because she finds Lulu so obnoxious and one-note with her baby rabies.

[peachmangosteen]

3 hours ago, Vella said:

Jason has always been a pompous, arrogant know it all snotface, I just hate seeing Curtis fall in line.

Sigh, I know. I knew Curtis would eventually be ruined, but I thought it'd be because he'd become another Sonny sycophant. I didn't see him becoming the one millionth Jason worshiper coming. It's almost worse for me tbh. 

47 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

Silas McFinn

I howled!

[Sake614]

Varni tweeted that today's show will air Monday.

[Darklazr]

5 hours ago, ulkis said:

talk in another thread reminded me of Griffin. Hasn't he been here since February? At first I thought Nathan might be leaving because they were gonna put Griffin with Maxie, but that looks like it's going nowhere. Seriously, they hired this sorta-kinda-of-a-get and they've done nooooothiiiing with him for a year. That's nuts.

Pffft.  Richard Burgi was a get and the show wrote a bunch of BS from day one!

[ulkis]

Just now, Darklazr said:

Pffft.  Richard Burgi was a get and the show wrote a bunch of BS from day one!

And least he was doing stuff though. Even stupid non-sensical stuff. Griffin does nothing but make a cry face.

[Darklazr]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

Nah, I've never seen anything as egregious as Griffin's case. Usually it's something like with Matt, where Frons or whoever wanted to steal him from DAYS and so made Guza write for him, so he begrudgingly gave him a scene once a month or so. With Griffin, you can tell they want to write for him, they just have no idea where to shove him. The whole priest angle was really a horrible idea. well, actually, so was making him Duke's son with some random woman. Maybe if Duke was actually on the show that would have made more sense.

Griffin should have been Mac's son or a recast Matt Hunter-Drake.  Anna and Griffin could have still bonded over their love of him being an ex-priest.

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

And least he was doing stuff though. Even stupid non-sensical stuff. Griffin does nothing but make a cry face.

Yes, it was dumb stuff, but RB is/was well a well known actor and what was done to his character was trash.  Hell.  TIIC trash their own veteran actors or give them nothing day after day, so Griffin can just join the crowd!

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

That's been the pattern with most of the new hires, though. Big burst of activity for a few weeks/months (however long the initial story plays out), and then it's back burner time, because after the initial story, the writers have no idea what to do. They never think beyond the current story.

This!  FV is actor and contract happy!  Nina, HateChel, etc... should have come in for short term story arcs and left the show.

[Darklazr]

4 hours ago, LexieLily said:

But yet Hayden has been here for two (?) years and immediately went from the Nikolas story and being widow Cassadine to being Liz's sister and apparently dying from whatever it is Finn has.

ReBU is a pet and a get, plus FV gave her a four year contract!

[LeftPhalange]

2 hours ago, LexieLily said:

Sorry, dubbel zout, I didn't see the 'most' ;)

is Claudette supposed to come back, do we know? Or was her story essentially to drop off Charlotte in Port Charles?

Claud needs to make an appearance for one scene in one episode to come get the embryo and then leave. Neither of them or seen, heard from, or spoken of again.

[LexieLily]

3 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

Claud needs to make an appearance for one scene in one episode to come get the embryo and then leave. Neither of them or seen, heard from, or spoken of again.

I could live with that. Lulu could be sad for awhile but find out Charlotte wasn't hers anyway and it was yet another Cassadine scam, Nina would go unhinged - again - once she realizes she married a murderous killer and didn't even get a baby out of it, and Laura/Kevin/Lulu are free to get back at Valentin however they choose for shooting Kevin/murdering Nik. Win-win

Edited January 7, 2017 by LexieLily

[P3pp3rb1rd]

I want for Maxie to have her daughter for a short time and Nina her sis-in-law will salivate over the kid and steal her, running away to the other side of the globe.

[fishcakes]

I've been a month behind on episodes since September, but with the holidays and all the preemptions and being able to watch the last eight episodes in a total of 20 minutes by FFing the boring/disgusting parts, I am all caught up. So not worth it.

[Darklazr]

Nina is filthy rich, so why can't she legally hire a surrogate and stop trying to obtain babies on the downlow?  I don't even like Lulu and hope that Charlotte is really Claudette's kid with Valentine!

Edited January 7, 2017 by Darklazr

[movingtargetgal]

5 hours ago, Darklazr said:

Griffin should have been Mac's son or a recast Matt Hunter-Drake.  Anna and Griffin could have still bonded over their love of him being an ex-priest.

Mac Scorpio is the best dad ever and he deserves to have biological children and grandchildren.  Sonny is a guy who conceives children on the fresh graves of his murder victims, has gotten his children blown up, shot in the head and has himself shot one of his son's point blank in the chest. 

[stlbf]

6 hours ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

I want for Maxie to have her daughter for a short time and Nina her sis-in-law will salivate over the kid and steal her, running away to the other side of the globe.

How would that upset Maxie? She has never really shown a lot of interest in Georgie. That aspect has been dumped on Spinelli and Ellie. They would be the panicked parents. Maxie? I honestly think that she would rationalize it as Nina is Nathan's sister, and she won't hurt Georgie.  So she might not be anywhere near as crazed as Spinelli and Ellie. 

3 hours ago, Darklazr said:

Nina is filthy rich, so why can't she legally hire a surrogate and stop trying to babies on the downlow?  I don't even like Lulu and hope that Charlotte is really Claudette's kid with Valentine!

Shhhhhhhh! TFGH writers can't understand such things as "logic" and sensible. Those words scare and confuse them.

So they have super rich Nina out there begging for someone to legally give her a baby. Instead of having her hire a surrogate somewhere in the world and either trying IVF treatments for herself and a sperm donor or just looking into egg donors and sperm donors.

[Asp Burger]

Quote

I've never seen anything as egregious as Griffin's case. Usually it's something like with Matt, where Frons or whoever wanted to steal him from DAYS and so made Guza write for him, so he begrudgingly gave him a scene once a month or so. With Griffin, you can tell they want to write for him, they just have no idea where to shove him. The whole priest angle was really a horrible idea.

Griffin's writing has reeked of desperation, yes. They keep pinballing him around the canvas as if there's going to be some "place" he settles, and a story is going to sprout out of the ground as a result, and nothing ever comes of it.  At this point he might as well never have shared a scene with half the people they've set things up with, for all that came of it. Now a triangle with Liz and Franco is the latest thing...I think, but it's barely been hinted at.  

Edited January 7, 2017 by Asp Burger

[peachmangosteen]

7 hours ago, stlbf said:

So they have super rich Nina out there begging for someone to legally give her a baby. Instead of having her hire a surrogate somewhere in the world and either trying IVF treatments for herself and a sperm donor or just looking into egg donors and sperm donors.

Did they ever address why exactly Nina didn't try to go the surrogacy or even IVF route? I feel like they might have but I forget most things on this show the second after they happen.

[LeftPhalange]

14 hours ago, LexieLily said:

14 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

Claud needs to make an appearance for one scene in one episode to come get the embryo and then leave. Neither of them or seen, heard from, or spoken of again.

 

I'm making an amendment to this post: 

When Claud comes back for one scene to get the embryo she also tells Tree that he has to come back to Canada with her to finalize their divorce because reasons. Maxie goes with them to make sure Claud doesn't pull any funny business. Maxie and Tree stay in Canada permanently because Helena. 

[rur]

56 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Did they ever address why exactly Nina didn't try to go the surrogacy or even IVF route? I feel like they might have but I forget most things on this show the second after they happen.

I think I remember Nina trying to go kind of black-market surrogacy, but she was meeting the person outdoors, and, IIRC, Ava stopped by and revealed that Nina had already tried kidnapping ripped-from-the-womb Avery, scaring the other party off. 

If I'm wrong, I welcome the correction.

Edited January 7, 2017 by rur