Episode Discussion: TFGH

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

That whole Nina/Valentin scene was just weird. From the moment they saw each other, they both played it as if they knew each other. I was very confused. And then she practically spread her legs for him the second she sat in the chair. I mean, sure he's good looking and I'd do him <G>, and I know she's horny (when is she NOT?) but I thought she was going to devour him whole!

And it was because she had a sadz about Franco! They broke up months ago.

Get a vibrator, Nina.

[Aurora2]

42 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

And it was because she had a sadz about Franco! They broke up months ago.

Get a vibrator, Nina.

Does she still have those sex toys in the Crimson office?

Edited August 3, 2016 by Aurora2

[Aurora2]

1 hour ago, Darklazr said:

Thanks for pointing that scene out, because it was unbelievably nasty and gross.  Silas, Ric, Franco, Curtis, Dillon, Julian and Valentin have all been thrown at Nina in the last two years and she is still not needed on this show.

Nina is emphatically not needed, but MS is an FoF, so I'm sure we'll continue to see her around. 

As well, in her AskGH session yesterday, she hinted that she thought Nina would be getting a "couple" soon.  And I'm afraid the unlucky victim will be Curtis because she sure was talking him up in her timeline.   That would be sad for me  -  because I'don't want to have to FF that guy.   However, after that display yesterday on top of her near-orgasmic scenes with him recently at the MC, I don't think I could watch without the barf bucket by my side.  (PS - I enjoy a good sex/make-out scene, but these scenes were emphatically NOT good!)

Edited August 3, 2016 by Aurora2

[Sake614]

I don't know that she's a FoF necessarily, but he clearly is enamored with her. I think in the beginning it was more of a 'look! Michelle Stafford! You loved her as Phyllis on Y&R, now see her every day on GH! She's a real soap superstar!' kind of thing. It was probably also a ratings ploy that backfired, along with the Billy Miller casting. I adore Billy and think he's awesome, but (a) Jason is the wrong character for him and (b) more importantly, the writers have absolutely no clue what to do with the character. They took over a year for him to learn his identity, then another year for him to regain his memories, or some anyway. And now that he knows who and what he is/was, he's got no real story and nothing to do other than pick Sam up every time she falls off her 6" heels.

[Melgaypet]

4 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I don't know that she's a FoF necessarily, but he clearly is enamored with her. I think in the beginning it was more of a 'look! Michelle Stafford! You loved her as Phyllis on Y&R, now see her every day on GH! She's a real soap superstar!' kind of thing. It was probably also a ratings ploy that backfired, along with the Billy Miller casting. I adore Billy and think he's awesome, but (a) Jason is the wrong character for him and (b) more importantly, the writers have absolutely no clue what to do with the character. They took over a year for him to learn his identity, then another year for him to regain his memories, or some anyway. And now that he knows who and what he is/was, he's got no real story and nothing to do other than pick Sam up every time she falls off her 6" heels.

I agree with all of this, especially what the part I bolded. Miller should have been Lucky, if anybody. I am admittedly a Jonathan Jackson fangirl, but he's never coming back on a permanent basis (nor should he! Fly free, JJ, to less-terrible Nashville skies!) and it is absurd* to me that Lucky Spencer is not on the canvas.

*Don't even get me started on the "Lucky is a deadbeat dad" narrative this show insists upon. Flames on the side of my face, people.

[TeeVee329]

17 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I don't know that she's a FoF necessarily, but he clearly is enamored with her. I think in the beginning it was more of a 'look! Michelle Stafford! You loved her as Phyllis on Y&R, now see her every day on GH!

And, and I say this with minimum knowledge of Phyllis on Y&R, Nina is pretty much Phyllis on Y&R.  Wasn't Phyllis also a magazine editor who was constantly horny?

[KerleyQ]

I'm kind of relieved if they're going to go with some Nina/Valentin thing.  I had genuine fear that we were going to get a Nina/Jax hook up while IR is back, so if she's busy with Valentin, that saves me from the horror.  Plus, I mean, Valentin is supposed to be so evil he scared Helena.  We can always hope that, after he mates, he kills.  

[Chairperson Meow]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

A quick theory about why Lucy is talking to Dillon about him needing privacy in the previews for today.  I think, because she's broke thanks to Rebecca Budig's stupid dad, she's either a) trying to get him to buy/sublet...wherever the hell she's supposed to live or b) is buttering him to try and get a job at Crimson.

Lucy should be Editor In Chief of Crimson, not Nina.   I can believe Lucy Coe, owner of a cosmetics company and smart enough to marry Alan Quartermaine, as the EIC of a fashion mag over wacked out coma chick who stole a baby and gives monologues about horses while sexually harassing everything with a penis that strolls through the door.  Hell, I'd buy Sigmund as a field reporter at this point.  He'd be damn good, too.  Literally, anything but Nina and Caterpie.  

[Chairperson Meow]

21 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

And, and I say this with minimum knowledge of Phyllis on Y&R, Nina is pretty much Phyllis on Y&R.  Wasn't Phyllis also a magazine editor who was constantly horny?

She was the executive/worked at Abbot and/or Newman Enterprises doing executive stuff.  She did bang Deacon (SK's character) by the dumpster.  She also ran over Cricket to steal The Danny Romalotti, famous rock star.  (Seriously, you tube it and lol).  And she banged Jack, poor Jack.  Eh, and Nick Newman.  But who cares about him?   Seriously.  Danny Romalotti concerts were fucking hilarious.  

[LegalParrot81]

I have never been and probably never will be a fan of Michelle Stafford and I've loved James Patrick Stuart since his Will days on AMC. 

As such, even with Valentin supposedly being all kinds of evil, even Dr. Von Doom wouldn't deserve the likes of Nina. 

Jax really needs to just do this to Sonny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWqGNITWIEc

[Sake614]

Yes please! Like 5x/episode. I could watch that all day and never get tired of it lol!

[TeeVee329]

Oh, I guess I should mention, before Kirsten Storms' return today, I have to eat some crow regarding Molly Burnett.  She actually did a pretty good job subbing in and, to be shallow, looked very pretty too.

[ulkis]

2 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oh, I guess I should mention, before Kirsten Storms' return today, I have to eat some crow regarding Molly Burnett.  She actually did a pretty good job subbing in and, to be shallow, looked very pretty too.

I agree, I have to eat some too. When KSt appeared in the previews I thought, "already??" 

[Sake614]

I'd never seen Molly Burnett before but really liked her as Maxie. She brought a slightly more grown up feel to the character.

[backhometome]

Can someone please get this whiny man child Franco off this show. All he does is whine whine whine. Shut the fuck up. 

[Linny]

So KS is back for good now? She still looks unhealthy to me. Too thin, awful hair, pasty makeup--it was noticeable when she was standing next to Claudette that she just doesn't look at 100%.

Did they get rid of the Kelly's set? Why are they all hanging out at a coffee kiosk?

[TeeVee329]

So is this the bigger story Frank promised for Lucy to get Lynn Herring back, being the town's real estate agent?  I'm quite torn on that out-of-nowhere reveal.  One on hand, it irritated me all over again that stupid Nina has usurped what should totally be Lucy's status quo.  But given the homelessness that has been rampant in Port Charles the last few years, she could certainly make a buck.  Get that money, Coe!

And then just a whiff of Lucy with Scotty at the end?  WTF, we couldn't cut some of the slobbering Franco and Liz were doing about each other instead?

Man oh man do I hate Morgan.  The way they are writing him - constantly using his mental illness to manipulate Kiki into doing whatever he wants - is wicked gross.  I appreciate that this is the angst for her and Dillon and not the other way around, but how much of this are we gonna have to sit through?

[lovelynn]

Oh dear, KSt came back too soon. She looks like she needs more time off.

I don't understand why Griffin hasn't come clean to Nathan.

I'm going to need Liz to tone it down a notch on the excitement over exonerating Franco.

Franco truly is awful. Make him a crazy evil serial killer again. Whiny old man is just not a good look on him.

[Aurora2]

4 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I don't know that she's a FoF necessarily, but he clearly is enamored with her. I think in the beginning it was more of a 'look! Michelle Stafford! You loved her as Phyllis on Y&R, now see her every day on GH! She's a real soap superstar!' kind of thing. It was probably also a ratings ploy that backfired, along with the Billy Miller casting. I adore Billy and think he's awesome, but (a) Jason is the wrong character for him and (b) more importantly, the writers have absolutely no clue what to do with the character. They took over a year for him to learn his identity, then another year for him to regain his memories, or some anyway. And now that he knows who and what he is/was, he's got no real story and nothing to do other than pick Sam up every time she falls off her 6" heels.

I agree - Billy is another Y&R actor who isn't panning out on GH- but for different reasons from those with Michelle.  Jason is definitely the wrong character for him and, as with many stories and characters, the writing is subpar.  With Nina, the writers and Michelle didn't have the confines of trying to further the story of a well-established character.  So they were freer to do what they wanted.  Perhaps,though, they were TOO free and ran with Michelle's OTT excesses and warped ideas of what really appeals to many of us viewers.  Either way, neither is working well. 

Edited August 3, 2016 by Aurora2

[rur]

52 minutes ago, backhometome said:

Can someone please get this whiny man child Franco off this show. All he does is whine whine whine. Shut the fuck up. 

 

38 minutes ago, lovelynn said:

Franco truly is awful. Make him a crazy evil serial killer again. Whiny old man is just not a good look on him.

I just don't understand RoHo's acting choices. He's been talking in two different voices for a while now, and I even tried to be charitable and think that maybe he was trying to show two sides of the character. But today, he was in full whiny mode -- with only one voice -- for all of his scenes, regardless of who they were with, so I'm back to thinking that his acting abilities are overrated. I have never stopped thinking that Franco sucks, though. 

[Lillybee]

Since temp Maxie had dark hair, couldn't they give real Maxie a brown rinse to hide those god awful roots.

Edited August 3, 2016 by Lillybee

[TeeVee329]

I wouldn't be shocked if Maxie and Nathan did elope, because it would allow the show to keep Mac and Felicia off-screen. #eyeroll

[Chairperson Meow]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oh, I guess I should mention, before Kirsten Storms' return today, I have to eat some crow regarding Molly Burnett.  She actually did a pretty good job subbing in and, to be shallow, looked very pretty too.

Yeah.  I adore KSt.  I mean, Zoom Zoom Zoom, she'll always be my SuperNova Girl, but I like Molly B as Maxie more.  Days really does have bad writers.  My bad.  Crow eaten.  I'd take Molly as a daughter of Lucy's because she has the attitude and works great with the actors.  Who knew Tree had emotions?  

[Perkie]

Was it just my tv or was KSt's makeup really bad today.  Like she looked Halloween skeletal bad.  Also, did it feel like she was channeling MoBu in the earlier scenes because she was saying her lines in a way that I could picture Molly saying them last week.  She was much more toned down than Maxie normally is.  

Shut up Franco and your stupid hair.  His hair is so bad it makes me want to see Julian's hair instead.  

Shut up Morgan.  No woman wants her man to buy her a house, sight unseen.  Maybe that's what your father does, but he's an idiot too.  Also, Kiki's a waitress and Morgan sells coffee, how are they paying for this great sounding place that Lucy was trying to sell them.  Crap Dante's a cop and Lulu's a casino owner and they haven't been able to afford anything bigger than a pocket in years.  

As much as I hate Claudette and all the soap tropes that go with that story, I am glad that she and Griffin have finally run into each other.  

[ulkis]

I think Val/Dante/Lulu part 2 and "Hospital Murder Mystery" part 2 are both better than last summer's equivalent stories. Maxie/Claudette/Nathan by virtue of Maxie not pretending she trusts Claudette like Lulu did with Valerie and Claudette and Nathan not pretending, like Valerie and Dante did, that spending lots of time with another woman/someone else's husband wasn't inappropriate. But it's still annoying that they basically repeated the triangle from last year.

This year's murder mystery is better because the victims got way more screentime than Silas ever did, and so I care a lot more about it being solved. Just a sec, I need to look something up  . . . oh. Apparently, Silas was on two years compared to Dr Mays, who was only on for a couple of episodes. Man, I could have sworn Dr. Mays had way more screentime. Oh well. Then I guess this year's story seems better because this time Franco is involved. He's never been involved in this kind of story before.

(No, seriously, it's the lack of Denise and Nina that makes it slightly better.)

I'm actually on Morgan's side. If Kiki thinks that every time Morgan does something stupid/inappropriate he's off his meds, she should break up with him.

Although, I gotta wonder, why does Morgan think his parents would be thrilled that he and Kiki had an apartment big enough to have dinner parties?

Franco: I guess I should be used to know one believing in me by now.

Yeah! He should! 

lol at Scotty's look at the end. I mostly enjoyed him, except for some Franco rooting parts.

previews:

Nina's post-coital face is terrifying. That's redundant to say, isn't it.

Sonny to Dante and Lulu: Is there something you're not telling me?

Yeah, there probably is a lot Sonny, seeing as they are both adults and they don't have to tell everything to daddy Sonny. Haha, just kidding, I know they do.

36 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I wouldn't be shocked if Maxie and Nathan did elope, because it would allow the show to keep Mac and Felicia off-screen. #eyeroll

I doubt they're even thinking that far. They'd do it because it would allow them not to spend money on pretty much anything.

Edited August 3, 2016 by ulkis

[TeeVee329]

2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I'm actually on Morgan's side. If Kiki thinks that every time Morgan does something stupid/inappropriate he's off his meds, she should break up with him.

But wasn't he the one who was all, "You think I'm being all bipolar-y!" when she first expressed (perfectly reasonable) reluctance?

Relatedly, what kind of after care is Morgan supposed to be getting?  Is he seeing Andre, or some other shrink?  Because no way do I think a mental professional would think his moving in together plan, or being in this relationship period, was a good idea.

[ulkis]

Just now, TeeVee329 said:

But wasn't he the one who was all, "You think I'm being all bipolar-y!" when she first expressed (perfectly reasonable) reluctance?

Relatedly, what kind of after care is Morgan supposed to be getting?  Is he seeing Andre, or some other shrink?  Because no way do I think a mental professional would think his moving in together plan, or being in this relationship period, was a good idea.

I can't recall the exact conversation, but the way she was asking her questions I think was her trying to get him to admit this was a crazy idea, like, "Morgan, don't you think that moving in this soon is too much?" instead of being more "I'm not ready to move in yet and I'm pissed you didn't say anything to me." imo she was reluctant to express she thought he was off his meds.

Don't get me wrong, he's a turd just for assuming she'd want to move in like that. And maybe Kiki doesn't realize it yet but she's probably going to think everything Morgan does something erratic it's lack of meds. I don't blame her completely because Carly and Morgan have been pushing the "Morgan wouldn't've made it without you" rhetoric. 

[Lillybee]

My cable co. has messed up sound on ABC for some reason. I didn't get where Morgan has the money to buy or even rent a house. Did show explain?

[Sake614]

3 minutes ago, Lillybee said:

My cable co. has messed up sound on ABC for some reason. I didn't get where Morgan has the money to buy or even rent a house. Did show explain?

Of course not! He probably figures mommy and daddy will pay for it. I think he's in for a rude awakening because there's no way they'd think this is a good idea. Well Carly might, but Sonny would actually be against it because it's too soon.

[ulkis]

10 minutes ago, Lillybee said:

My cable co. has messed up sound on ABC for some reason. I didn't get where Morgan has the money to buy or even rent a house. Did show explain?

This is sarcasm, right? Just checking lol.

6 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Of course not! He probably figures mommy and daddy will pay for it. I think he's in for a rude awakening because there's no way they'd think this is a good idea. Well Carly might, but Sonny would actually be against it because it's too soon.

Nah, Sonny would be fine with it. Kiki will take care of him!

[TeeVee329]

I had to laugh at Morgan comparing this new place to the brownstone.  You know, the brownstone, that place Morgs and Keeks fixed up the summer SHE WAS BANGING HIS BROTHER and HE THOUGHT HER MOM WAS HAVING HIS BABY that nobody ever moved into?

Edited August 3, 2016 by TeeVee329

[Darklazr]

It is bad enough Elizabeth is having to prop Franco's ass and now she is about to apology to a serial killer and rapist.    Nina gets a brand spanking new love interest and Elizabeth is stuck with ToddManningFrancoFranks and his whiny mooby face and dirty hair.  

[peachmangosteen]

49 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Also, did it feel like she was channeling MoBu in the earlier scenes because she was saying her lines in a way that I could picture Molly saying them last week.  She was much more toned down than Maxie normally is.  

I thought this, too. I liked it. And I loved her shirt. But she looks really bad. I'm concerned about her.

I actually mostly liked this episode. Granted, I ffwd anything involving Franco in any way, so that helped.

I am really liking Lucy this time around. I'm down for Lucy/Scott. They really should bring Serena/Christina back asap.

I loved the short Dillon/Valerie scenes. I like their friendship. If Darby is pregnant I will lose my mind.

I actually kinda liked the Morgan/Kiki scenes. I thought BC was good in them. I liked when he told Lucy she was good at real estate. It was cute.

The Claudette/Maxie/Nathan/Griffin story is pretty bad, but I'd still rather watch it than anything involving Sonny or Franco.

Edited August 3, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[dubbel zout]

30 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Relatedly, what kind of after care is Morgan supposed to be getting?  Is he seeing Andre, or some other shrink?  Because no way do I think a mental professional would think his moving in together plan, or being in this relationship period, was a good idea.

He is seeing Andre. It's been mentioned a few times. The show doesn't dwell on that, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan ignores Andre when he (Morgan) doesn't like what's said.

[ulkis]

11 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I had to laugh at Morgan comparing this new place to the brownstone.  You know, the brownstone, that place Morgs and Keeks fixed up the summer SHE WAS BANGING HIS BROTHER and HE THOUGHT HER MOM WAS HAVING HIS BABY that nobody ever moved into?

Oh, yeah. More bad dialogue. "It's like the brownstones, from a couple of summers ago." It was two years ago! Would she really need to be reminded of what the brownstone is? I'd think she'd remember without that caveat.

[peachmangosteen]

I forgot that I did actually watch the final Liz/Franco scenes. Fuck off with him being all hurt over her not calling him. Really, Franco? REALLY? Again, fuck off. I hate this story.

Edited August 3, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[dubbel zout]

16 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Oh, yeah. More bad dialogue. "It's like the brownstones, from a couple of summers ago." It was two years ago! Would she really need to be reminded of what the brownstone is? I'd think she'd remember without that caveat.

As do we, but the writers probably didn't remember, so that was put in for their benefit.

[RedheadZombie]

38 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I thought this, too. I liked it. And I loved her shirt. But she looks really bad. I'm concerned about her.

My mom was disturbed by KSt's appearance today, and is convinced she's done something to her mouth.  I've always had a soft spot for her and she looks like she's back in ED territory.   Her teeth do look unusually large, but it might be because her face is so gaunt.  I'm worried about her. 

[KerleyQ]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

This year's murder mystery is better because the victims got way more screentime than Silas ever did, and so I care a lot more about it being solved. Just a sec, I need to look something up  . . . oh. Apparently, Silas was on two years compared to Dr Mays, who was only on for a couple of episodes. Man, I could have sworn Dr. Mays had way more screentime. Oh well. Then I guess this year's story seems better because this time Franco is involved. He's never been involved in this kind of story before.

Although, I gotta wonder, why does Morgan think his parents would be thrilled that he and Kiki had an apartment big enough to have dinner parties?

Wait, who did kill Silas?  Swear to God, I cannot remember. 

As for Morgan, I figure it's part of his never-ending quest to become their favorite son.  "If they liked banging on Mikey's couch, they'll love dinner parties at my place!"  

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

I forgot that I did actually watch the final Liz/Franco scenes. Fuck off with him being all hurt over her not calling him. Really, Franco? REALLY? Again, fuck off. I hate this story.

OK, I admittedly am not exactly devoted in my viewing lately, so maybe I'm wrong, but, wasn't he arrested and locked up (or at least hanging out in the Jason Morgan Memorial Interrogation Room)?  Why would you expect someone to have been calling and texting when the safe assumption was that you didn't have your phone on you, being, you know, locked up and all?  

[ulkis]

4 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

Wait, who did kill Silas?  Swear to God, I cannot remember. 

Donna Mills.

I actually had to look up whether Franco was a suspect in that murder. I didn't remember.

[Harmony233]

Why is Lucy and Scotty so broke when they have jobs but can't afford drinks at the metro court.Cant they get a story about this or one of there silly money making schemes they used to have back in the day.

[TeeVee329]

10 minutes ago, Harmony233 said:

Why is Lucy and Scotty so broke when they have jobs but can't afford drinks at the metro court.Cant they get a story about this or one of there silly money making schemes they used to have back in the day.

I guess the idea is that, thanks to getting swindled by Rebecca Budig's stupid father, they're barely hanging on financially?  And yeah, them getting involved in some scheme to refill their coffers would be fun.

[sunnyface]

Today was a good episode except for Morgan (what a product of Maurice - enough with the hands!) and Franco's hair.  It's always nice to savor an episode without Sonny/Jason/Carly.  It's a shame that they don't bring Scottie around more often.

[Ambrosefolly]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

I guess the idea is that, thanks to getting swindled by Rebecca Budig's stupid father, they're barely hanging on financially?  And yeah, them getting involved in some scheme to refill their coffers would be fun.

Did they mention Serena being swindled as well? Though with those two, I would think I would put them on strict allowances if I was her. You know, this could be the perfect opening to having Scotty, Tracy and Lucy working together to get back whatever was stolen from them.

[Harmony233]

15 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Did they mention Serena being swindled as well? Though with those two, I would think I would put them on strict allowances if I was her. You know, this could be the perfect opening to having Scotty, Tracy and Lucy working together to get back whatever was stolen from them.

It was mentioned a couple months ago Scotty told ava that Serena still had her money.

yeah Scotty Lucy and Tracy working together would be fun.

[dubbel zout]

LOL at Lauren's reaction to the house Morgan decided to rent for them without talking to her. Thinking he's off his meds is a bit extreme, but she's entirely within her rights to be angry with him. Presumptuous much?

The Maxie/Nathan/Claudette thing continues to be dumber than dumb. At least Claudette and Griffin have finally crossed paths. I'm surprised there weren't any near-misses and all of that nonsense.

2 minutes ago, Harmony233 said:

Scotty Lucy and Tracy working together would be fun.

Three olds in their own story? Don't hold your breath.

"It's been a really, really long night." Valerie, you requested the overtime, so maybe don't sound so put-upon.

[TeeVee329]

52 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

You know, this could be the perfect opening to having Scotty, Tracy and Lucy working together to get back whatever was stolen from them.

I don't think Tracy got any money swindled by Rebecca Budig's father, did she?  Anyway, she and Rebecca Budig are kinda cool at the moment since (gag) they're both on Dr. Michael Easton's squad.

[Ambrosefolly]

No, but she is still connected to ELQ. If getting the money means getting back ELQ, she should go for it.

[movingtargetgal]

Any storyline that gives Tracy more airtime is great by me.

[ByaNose]

It was good to see KS back as Maxie. She looked okay but I was distracted by a dark dimple on the right side of her face. I don't recall her having a dimple there before and it looked like it was covered (badly) by darker makeup. Hopefully, she is feeling better but she still looks run down looking.