HalcyonDays September 2, 2015 Share September 2, 2015 Season Two Finale - With their mission now fully dedicated to spreading the cure, Nathan James puts a call out to civilians to meet at pre-selected ports across the country, where all will receive the cure. However, small Immune factions remain active in their quest to fight the cure and fulfill Ramsey's dreams. Link to comment
txwatcher September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Great job The Last Ship production crew and cast. The St. Louis montage was beautiful TV. Thank ya'll. 2 Link to comment
xaxat September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I'm going consider everything up to the shooting of Dr. Scott to be the series finale. And it was a good one. I know they are coming back next summer, but I think they have told their story already and I enjoyed it. 8 Link to comment
bmoore4026 September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 DOCTOR LADY! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Other than that YAY FOR ST. LOUIS....even though it wasn't filmed in St. Louis. It would have been on the news that they were shooting in the St. Louis area. So, boo for not getting actual St. Louis as a filming location! We would have welcomed you with brats and beer. In fact, I'm shocked and saddened that the "St. Louis" people didn't offer at least a Fredbird doll or a Cardinals jacket. Eric Dane's handsome factor would have gone through the roof for this St. Louis area man. Also, I'm sorry, but after all the shit "The Chosen" put the crew through, someone needs to be swinging from the yardarm for his crimes. Or made to walk the plank or something. 3 Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) How did that guy get in the hotel -- with a gun, no less -- and somehow knew which floor that Rachel was staying on in order to shoot her while emulating John Wilkes Booth ? He was the nearly cackling Immune in Memphis pushing the infected in the wheelchair. I'm going consider everything up to the shooting of Dr. Scott to be the series finale. And it was a good one. I know they are coming back next summer, but I think they have told their story already and I enjoyed it. I knew that this has been renewed for Season 3, but that really did feel like a series finale -- the marriage proposal, the Master Chief meets up with his in-laws (I think), Tex finds his daughter, President gets officially inaugurated, heck even the dog was back. I was surprised by how clean and well fed everyone was in St. Louis. And where did all those handheld flags come from ? You can really tell this is a Michael Bay production. In Memphis, I thought it was curious how everyone was basking under the cure sprayed from above -- and then they showed the helicopter actually doing the spraying. They kind of needed to re-edit that sequence. The Immunes managed to drive all the way from North Florida to Memphis in record time with a couple of vans full of infected and encountered no roadblocks on the way and found plenty of fuel along the way -- really didn't buy that. And what was with the thing that Valerie was tracking over the Atlantic -- was that a plane or a boat ? If it was a plane, since when did the Immunes have a plane ? Edited September 7, 2015 by ottoDbusdriver 3 Link to comment
bmoore4026 September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I was surprised by how clean and well fed everyone was in St. Louis. And where did all those handheld flags come from ? You can really tell this is a Michael Bay production. Didn't you know? St. Louis has some of the best healthcare in the country. No bullshit apocalyptic virus is going to get us down. In fact, bring on the zombies. We'll either dump their asses in to The Mississippi or divert all of them toward East St. Louis where they will get asses handed to them and will never be heard from again (except for one zombie who will stumble out wearing a sign saying "Zombie mothafuckas ain't shit"). 4 Link to comment
Frost September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I thought it was pretty boring. I liked the song at the end and the fact that the Navy personnel finally got to relax and celebrate everything they've accomplished.... and remember their fallen. But I thought the three city thing was very flat. It was very clear that the Master Chief's open channel warning was going to cause problems and Immune plan in Memphis was just dumb. Rachel's shooting caught me by surprise. I thought it would end with Chandler, alone in his room, suddenly clutching his side because the shrapnel left in there had shifted. Wrong cliff hanger! Maybe Chandler will have reconsidered his goodbye and be close by when she was shot so he can save her life for once. I've enjoyed those show. I hope they can figure out a storyline for next season! 1 Link to comment
HalcyonDays September 7, 2015 Author Share September 7, 2015 Rachel's shooting caught me by surprise. I thought it would end with Chandler, alone in his room, suddenly clutching his side because the shrapnel left in there had shifted. Wrong cliff hanger! Maybe Chandler will have reconsidered his goodbye and be close by when she was shot so he can save her life for once. Honestly, the cliffhanger I thought of....that the cure would have some nasty side-effects or backfire somehow. Especially with the whole wonderful we all love each other/isn't the miiltary awesome self-congratulatory montage in Memphis. I thought for sure someone would suddenly start hacking up guts..... Guess I was wrong. And I cried, BTW, when Master Chief Jeter reunited with his in-laws. Dammit show. It was not the clifhanger I was thinking at all....but still a good one. And nice chemistry between Rachel and Chandler (wait, is this Friends?) Sorry, Rachel and Tom. You know where that is heading next season. Looking forward to it - and the season - already. Link to comment
Dowel Jones September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 and then they showed the helicopter actually doing the spraying. And how did they rig up a spraying mechanism, anyway? It pained my geography student's heart a bit when the radar operator said that she would lose them somewhere over Newfoundland, when the scope clearly showed them 2/3 of the way to Ireland already. Agreed that the false ending of the series was pretty obvious. All they needed was some ominous music. But where does it go from here? The writers can't expect us to believe that Darryl Crowe's brother from another mother can mount any kind of resistance to a population already being cured in droves, can they? Being named CNO isn't that big of a job when there's only one ship. Here's your first job. Find someone skilled in ship repair. All in all, it was still one of the best summer series on tv. 2 Link to comment
dirtydi September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I cried at Master Chief's reunion with his in-laws and the toast to the fallen. They had me me at Chung and Cosetti. I even remember Smith. I am torn with Rachel, Tex, and Chandler, all rootable characters. I liked that cliffhanger, not expected. 2 Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 It pained my geography student's heart a bit when the radar operator said that she would lose them somewhere over Newfoundland, when the scope clearly showed them 2/3 of the way to Ireland already. That was weird. Even weirder -- when the President threatened MacDowell that he would launch a Tomahawk at his location and kill him in 90 seconds. How about no ? Tomahawks are sub-sonic and would take approx. an hour to get to North Florida from a ship somewhere on the Mississippi between New Orleans and Vicksburg. 1 Link to comment
TV Anonymous September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) I agree. People and places in St. Louis seem too clean and too organized after virus apocalypse. Besides, should St. Louis not be occupied by Votans as of now? :-) I guess a DDG is not big enough of a unit to have a JAGC officer aboard. Therefore the President needs to have his oath taken by a judge in STL. When they were in Norfolk, were there a number of Navy officers? None of them ranked above O-5? Not to mention all the bases they contacted while in Norfolk. It is really weird to see an O-5 as CNO. For a military-porn show that is quite in details about work and lives of Sailors, I have to nitpick on LT Green. Why did he wear SWO insignia? Was he not SEAL? As well, wearing the Navy jump wings above SWO? In addition, why did he disrespect his uniform by not adhering to the grooming standard? The Unit at least got it right. When in Dress Uniform, follow the grooming standard, Special Operations / Warfare or not. Edited September 7, 2015 by TV Anonymous 3 Link to comment
Raja September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) I agree. People and places in St. Louis seem too clean and too organized after virus apocalypse. Besides, should St. Louis be occupied by Votans as of now? :-) I guess a DDG is not big enough of a unit to have a JAGC officer aboard. Therefore the President needs to have his oath taken by a judge in STL. When they were in Norfolk, were there a number of Navy officers? None of them ranked above O-5? Not to mention all the bases they contacted while in Norfolk. It is really weird to see an O-5 as CNO. For a military-porn show that is quite in details about work and lives of Sailors, I have to nitpick on LT Green. Why did he wear SWO insignia? Was he not SEAL? As well, wearing the Navy jump wings above SWO? In addition, why did he disrespect his uniform by not adhering to the grooming standard? The Unit at least got it right. When in Dress Uniform, follow the grooming standard, Special Operations / Warfare or not. The St Louis oath was for the people of St Louis, anybody can administer the oath as President Coolidge's father the Notary Public administered his upon the sudden death of President Harding.McGarrett on Hawaii 5-0 pulled the same 5 o'clock shadow look while in uniform for a funeral. Lt Green was with the Navy Mountain Warfare Unit and from the first episode there have been were they SEALs or not questions Edited September 7, 2015 by Raja Link to comment
Artsda September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Great season finale, Tex finding his daughter, the crew getting some peace for a night, and the cliff hanger ending. 4 Link to comment
HalcyonDays September 7, 2015 Author Share September 7, 2015 For a military-porn show that is quite in details about work and lives of Sailors, I have to nitpick on LT Green. Why did he wear SWO insignia? Was he not SEAL? As well, wearing the Navy jump wings above SWO? In addition, why did he disrespect his uniform by not adhering to the grooming standard? The Unit at least got it right. When in Dress Uniform, follow the grooming standard, Special Operations / Warfare or not. You know, I have to say, there is a lot about the Military that I respect insanely. I really do. I should have prefaced this with the fact that I'm not American, so (to me) the military doesn't figure as strongly in our culture as I (assume) it does in the US. With that said, I will say that every visit I've had to the US, it has always included a visit to a decommissioned now-museum aircraft carrier or old ship or sub or military museum etc. I do love sea-faring vessels (and jet airplanes like mad), and love the entire honourable military culture. Again, doesn't mean that's real life and everyone follows it, but its a nice thought. I love the military porn and the fact that most of the ship gargon is pretty authentic. Again, this is what I've been told, and that the author of the books was quite adamant about getting it right. That fascinates me. Anyway, I'm in for season 3 and hope it's awesome! 2 Link to comment
TV Anonymous September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 The St Louis oath was for the people of St Louis, anybody can administer the oath as President Coolidge's father the Notary Public administered his upon the sudden death of President Harding. McGarrett on Hawaii 5-0 pulled the same 5 o'clock shadow look while in uniform for a funeral. Lt Green was with the Navy Mountain Warfare Unit and from the first episode there have been were they SEALs or not questions While the Constitution indeed does not specify who can administer the Oath, the convention holds that it needs to be a lawyer. Navy Mountain Warfare Unit? What is that? The Marines have Mountain Warfare Training Center and the Army has Mountain Warfare School and Northern Warfare Training Center. Never heard about non-SEAL Navy has anything to do with mountain warfare. Link to comment
Human September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 This show is so much fun most of the time. It's just outrageous military porn and so much yummy. But that ending barely made sense. Dr. Scott's purpose, as far as we saw, was done. They don't lose anything with her being dead. The cure is out there and the data is safe and likely being shared. I expected there to be some indication that the cure would have a nasty side effect, but we haven't seen that yet which makes her apparent assassination even more useless. Plus, she's been pardoned so really, what purpose did this serve. I'm not anxiously awaiting to see how her shooting is resolved because it really doesn't matter. Poor choice, Bay, poor choice. The things I'm waiting for next season is to see if that piece of shrapnel is going to slice up Chandler's liver. Of course, now that they have a base of operations where there are hospitals, equipment and more qualified doctors, I'm not actually worried about him. I'm also waiting to see if the virus has a nasty side effect. I would have guessed sterilization but pregnant lady is still preggers so maybe not that. It's gotta be something bad. I'm also hoping for China to be the big bad enemy. We've had Russia and the British and some Americans. China should really be represented. Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Decent closure for the series. It's over now. A sequel series of a dystopian America with some of this cast makes perfect sense and I'd watch. Chandler would have been made COS of all U.S. forces. Four star Admiral. No question. XO might could be CNO. I get why they did the luxurious inaugural setup and celebration. It just could never have happened. Everything would have been taken or destroyed long before. Nice scenes, though. All this talk of travel? Absurd. Scott is not as dead as the Russian Admiral or the HMS Whackjob/Benny Hill souls are. Oh, well. Mission accomplished, intrepid crew of the NJ. Well done. 1 Link to comment
millennium September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) They don't lose anything with her being dead. I must disagree. Nobody on board could smolder like that woman. This episode felt terribly anti-climactic. Just when you thought they were all gone, another awful Brit crawls from the woodwork. After he's vanquished, still another Evil Accent emerges to shoot Dr. Scott. And the whole toasting scene was too long. And the touchy-feelie cure was weird. Edited September 7, 2015 by millennium 2 Link to comment
Brian Cronin September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I can't believe how dumb the Master Chief was. He's always been shown to be a smart guy and that, well, that was not smart. 7 Link to comment
Raja September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) While the Constitution indeed does not specify who can administer the Oath, the convention holds that it needs to be a lawyer. Navy Mountain Warfare Unit? What is that? The Marines have Mountain Warfare Training Center and the Army has Mountain Warfare School and Northern Warfare Training Center. Never heard about non-SEAL Navy has anything to do with mountain warfare. Conventions are for public parties and spectacular shows whicj inauguration days are. And in this case St Louis becoming the seat of government. As for LT Green's unit it was likely made up for the show like the extra USS Nathan James which also doesn't exist. Using Marines like on Ice Station Zebra would have taken away from the we are the last ones sentiment. Meanwhile why were SEALS escorting a scientist for months on end? If its a secret it was like shining a beacon saying look here. where our special operations folks are pulling guard duty in a peaceful environment for weeks on end instead of being ready for deployment Edited September 7, 2015 by Raja Link to comment
MissLucas September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Well it was fun, awesome naval porn (occasional handwaving included) and when the plotting didn't work we could snark about HMS Benny Hill. All in all good summer tv. 1 Link to comment
Julie23 September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I did not see the shooting of Dr. Scott coming. Judging from how close the guy was and that it appeared that he shot her in the chest, I don't see how she survives. So next season is Chandler getting revenge? How are they going to keep calling this "the Last Ship" when they are on land now? Or do they all hop back on the ship and go to Europe, where the immunes still rule? I can't see how they can do that without a time jump, since the ship needs repairs and they all needed ammunition. But they left us with a cliff hanger, so can't really do a time jump. All in all very enjoyable season and the last few scenes of spreading the cure and toasting the fallen brought tears to my eyes. Should have ended it there.... Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 In that scene where the President finishes his inaugural oath and the camera pans up to show the crowd standing under the St. Louis arch, it is so blatantly obvious that they cloned the same small group of people over and over and over again. There's a woman in a pink shirt with long brown hair standing next to a guy in a white hat -- she's in the shot at least 7 times. There's a blond-haired kid sitting on top of man's shoulders -- he's in the shot at least 5 times. Hurray for Photoshop !!! 1 Link to comment
LuLu123 September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Aw, Master Chief finds his in-laws and Tex finds his daughter. Can XO Slattery find out what happened to his family next season? Adam Baldwin needs some emoting to do. It took me a minute to realize who Danny was talking about during the party and yeah the dog finally showed up again! Nice scene between CNO Chandler and Dr. Scott at the end. They finally let Rhona Mitra be all pretty and sultry, though can someone put that woman's hair up and out of her face? I hope the writers take some time and really plot out season 3. This one, while having some great stuff, pretty much felt like they scrambled to come up with some stories. 3 Link to comment
wetmoregal September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 "Darryl Crowe's brother from another mother", "Besides, should St. Louis be occupied by Votans as of now? :-)" Thanks for the chuckles. Needed a good laugh today! Don't have a clue about the military jargon or protocol, but I enjoy this show. Really liked the battle between the sub and ship last episode and the crew relaxing and remembering the fallen this episode. Also like the idea of the cure having nasty side effects for the upcoming season... 1 Link to comment
oakville September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I enjoyed the episode. I have a strong feeling that it was filmed before they found out the show being renewed for Season 3. It felt like a Series Finale. I enjoyed the Inauguration Celebration & the toast to all the fallen shipmates. The cliff hanger felt tacked on. I am sure the Doctor will be OK. I was surprised that St Louis had electricity & a functioning hotel. The Nathan James is being repaired in St Louis? I thought the naval base was in Norfolk Virginia.? I don't like the spreading of the cure by hugging & touching. It makes more sense to inject them with the dose of the "Cure". A better cliff hanger would have been the President double crossing the Nathan James crew or the Cure having side effects . This is a good show. I like the actors. I am looking forward to its return next year. 2 Link to comment
Latverian Diplomat September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I can't believe how dumb the Master Chief was. He's always been shown to be a smart guy and that, well, that was not smart. And he has always been very scrupulous about being a role model on the ship. Anyone can have a moment of weakness, but this was way out of character for him. 4 Link to comment
Latverian Diplomat September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) The cliff hanger felt tacked on. I am sure the Doctor will be OK. I was surprised that St Louis had electricity & a functioning hotel. The Nathan James is being repaired in St Louis? I thought the naval base was in Norfolk Virginia.? I don't like the spreading of the cure by hugging & touching. It makes more sense to inject them with the dose of the "Cure". The Dr. will be OK as far as budget and casting permits, I suppose. Although I'm not sure there is much left for her to do, plot-wise. And I'll be disappointed if this is a way to give the Captain lots of emotion and a desire for revenge ("woman in the refrigerator" is the term from comics). They mentioned an airbase. Which would be good for ammo, and maybe rations, at least. Plus presumably stuff could be flown from Norfolk to there. I'm not sure what kind of drydock facilities for ocean going vessels St.Louis has, but maybe there's something. As much as people love the Nathan James, I'm kind of surprised there isn't another Arleigh Burke class vessel docked at Norfolk or somewhere. It would seem easier to transfer the crew to that vessel than fix all the damage to the Nathan James. The problem with the injectable cure is that it requires infrastructure to manufacture and supplies (needles and syringes) to make and it has to be shipped around. With the "infection" cure, every person "infected" is a factory for a few days, and no other supplies are needed. That said, such a system would surely have many more problems and be much less reliable than presented. I do give the show credit for making the most out of the "the handshake of life" and the other cure spreading moments. Lastly, that distant view of St. Louis with the crowds waiting for them really looked like a still they were panning and scanning. If so, then they were out of money, time, or both. Edited September 7, 2015 by Latverian Diplomat 1 Link to comment
oakville September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 The Dr. will be OK as far as budget and casting permits, I suppose. Although I'm not sure there is much left for her to do, plot-wise. And I'll be disappointed if this is a way to give the Captain lots of emotion and a desire for revenge ("woman in the refrigerator" is the term from comics). They mentioned an airbase. Which would be good for ammo, and maybe rations, at least. Plus presumably stuff could be flown from Norfolk to there. I'm not sure what kind of drydock facilities for ocean going vessels St.Louis has, but maybe there's something. As much as people love the Nathan James, I'm kind of surprised there isn't another Arleigh Burke class vessel docked at Norfolk or somewhere. It would seem easier to transfer the crew to that vessel than fix all the damage to the Nathan James. The problem with the injectable cure is that it requires infrastructure to manufacture and supplies (needles and syringes) to make and it has to be shipped around. With the "infection" cure, every person "infected" is a factory for a few days, and no other supplies are needed. That said, such a system would surely have many more problems and be much less reliable than presented. I do give the show credit for making the most out the "the handshake of life" and the other cure spreading moments. Lastly, that distant view of St. Louis with the crowds waiting for them really looked like a still they were panning and scanning. If so, then they were out of money, time, or both. It seems to easy to have the Cure spread by people hugging & touching each other. I think people would be reluctant to get close to strangers offering to hug them. The injectable dose looks more reputable. They have a base in St Louis. They can start distributing it throughout the nation. Another thing that doesn't make sense is everyone in the country having fully charged cellphones that are ready to watch Presidential or Immune broadcasts. Link to comment
HalcyonDays September 7, 2015 Author Share September 7, 2015 Like some of you said, I too think this episode was filmed before they knew they were being renewed. Because it is a fitting end to the series. Complete closure on everything. Once they knew they were being renewed, they just filmed two scenes to add on - Rachel and Tom being all flirty and the one where Rachel was shot. Otherwise it was perfect closure. I expect a time jump. They said in the show that the Nathan James would be in dry dock for months. So Chandler does his thing, the crew all does their thing and something brings them back together to sail again, I guess. I assume Rhona Mitra will be back, so I guess they can say that they need her to make more of the cure. In this episode, she used up the last of the vaccine to make that aerosol spray the Helo delivered to the crowd. But maybe there is another viral mutation, or the cure loses it's potency after some time and the show encounters an isolated community (like, people in the West coast or something) that they have to save. Or the show will still be fighting the idiot immunes. Maybe she'll have to make a virus to combat the immunity, just to teach those idiots a lesson. Also, notice the cure made it to a small area in America, and has to be delivered by close contact. So what about the other continents? As it's left, Europe, Australia, Asia, etc all still have infected people. Hell, places 100 km north and south of Missouri don't have the cure. There are no commercial airplanes flying, no fast enough mode of transport for people to spread the cure and Dr. Scott said that the effacy of the cure would only be around for about 8 days. I am sure they can spin something. Great series, loved it to death and glad it's coming back! 2 Link to comment
iMonrey September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 For a military-porn show that is quite in details about work and lives of Sailors, I have to nitpick on LT Green. Why did he wear SWO insignia? Was he not SEAL? As well, wearing the Navy jump wings above SWO? In addition, why did he disrespect his uniform by not adhering to the grooming standard? The Unit at least got it right. When in Dress Uniform, follow the grooming standard, Special Operations / Warfare or not. I noticed that too. Everyone else was clean-shaven but Green still had the facial scruff. I found it kind of distracting, actually. It was as if the producers or the actor himself was afraid he'd be less attractive without it or something. Maybe Travis Van Winkle put his foot down and refused to alter his "look." What did that guy say right before he shot Dr. Scott? I rewound and still couldn't make it out. Was it something in Latin? Whatever it was went over my head. What I'm assuming is that Rachel will be dead and there will be something wrong with the cure that nobody else can figure out, which will give them a story for the next season and potentially beyond that. 1 Link to comment
Human September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) Also, notice the cure made it to a small area in America, and has to be delivered by close contact. So what about the other continents? As it's left, Europe, Australia, Asia, etc all still have infected people. Hell, places 100 km north and south of Missouri don't have the cure. There are no commercial airplanes flying, no fast enough mode of transport for people to spread the cure and Dr. Scott said that the effacy of the cure would only be around for about 8 days. The data for the cure is already out there. She gave that USB drive to someone. So scientists around the world have the ability to make their own cure. Hence, Dr. Scott is no longer needed. Edited September 7, 2015 by Human Link to comment
cali1981 September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 As soon as I saw the chief immune's weasel henchman approach Dr. Scott, I knew that he would try to kill her with a blade or a gun. Of course the idiot pulls out the gun and doesn't go for the easy head shot, insuring the kill do Scott will probably survive ( a good thing especially since Rhona cleans up so well). The little jerk looked like he was on something or not in good health so that makes it even more likely that we'll see the lovely Ms. Mitra next season and she and Capt. Eric will get it on. I hope that Tex comes back as well. He's one of the more interesting characters in the piece and John Pyper-Ferguson has done a very nice job bringing him to life. Link to comment
DrLar September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Well they said St. Louis still had power, so they could charge their phones... Yeah the Doctor's faith not looking good, I'm willing to bet Chandler goes to her room, you know to do the deed before she goes and he finds her there lying in a pool of blood, quickly taking her to be saved... will she survive? (of course the perp has already gone) 1 Link to comment
MissLucas September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Hence, Dr. Scott is no longer needed. The Captain has mourned his wife the tv appropriate period of time - hence a love interest is needed. I really doubt they're going to swap Rhona Mitra for somebody new. 1 Link to comment
xaxat September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 What did that guy say right before he shot Dr. Scott? I rewound and still couldn't make it out. Was it something in Latin? Whatever it was went over my head. "Sic semper tyrannis." Latin for "thus always to tyrants". The phrase has been invoked historically in Europe and other parts of the world as an epithet or rallying cry against abuse of power. 1 Link to comment
Lyra Angelica September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 I noticed that too. Everyone else was clean-shaven but Green still had the facial scruff. I found it kind of distracting, actually. It was as if the producers or the actor himself was afraid he'd be less attractive without it or something. Maybe Travis Van Winkle put his foot down and refused to alter his "look." What did that guy say right before he shot Dr. Scott? I rewound and still couldn't make it out. Was it something in Latin? Whatever it was went over my head. What I'm assuming is that Rachel will be dead and there will be something wrong with the cure that nobody else can figure out, which will give them a story for the next season and potentially beyond that. Sic semper tyrannis is latin for "thus always/ever to tyrants." It's the state motto of Virginia, and John Wilkes Booth, a Virginian, supposedly said this after he assassinated Abraham Lincoln. 1 Link to comment
ParadoxLost September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 (edited) As soon as I saw the chief immune's weasel henchman approach Dr. Scott, I knew that he would try to kill her with a blade or a gun. Of course the idiot pulls out the gun and doesn't go for the easy head shot, insuring the kill do Scott will probably survive ( a good thing especially since Rhona cleans up so well). The little jerk looked like he was on something or not in good health So I'm not the only one that noticed this. The 'immune' was sick . I think that is the more important element of the cliffhanger than Dr. Scott getting shot. I bet the idiots got someone to build a better virus that the cure doesn't work against. Given their nutjob belief that they were chosen, they thought they would be immune to it too. So season 3 reboots, and the last ship gets sent on a mission to find something/someone that leads to the next evolution of the cure to combat the evolved virus. It also explains why he didn't get up close and personal. They wanted Dr. Scott's life hanging in the balance but not infected. If they were just going for Dr. Scott life in jeopardy it would have been more poignant to stab her while she was giving the handshake / close talker cure. Edited September 7, 2015 by ParadoxLost Link to comment
Human September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 The Captain has mourned his wife the tv appropriate period of time - hence a love interest is needed. I really doubt they're going to swap Rhona Mitra for somebody new. That's completely unrelated to Dr. Scott's role as a medical professional, which is actually what I'm talking about. Making up new storylines that she could fulfill is something different. The potential plots would be limitless. My point is that the position she's filled in the story is no longer necessary. Link to comment
MissLucas September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 The same could be said about the whole crew. Link to comment
Human September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 The same could be said about the whole crew. Sure, but in their case their original purpose still has plenty of open threads. The cure still needs to be disseminated, the world still needs to be policed and put back to rights, there will always be enemies, etc. Dr. Scott's purpose in the plot was to develop a cure. She's done that, she's shared it and all the technical information about the cure is out in the world. Further, they no longer require her as the go-to doctor because they aren't stuck on a boat with no other options. She can have a new purpose if the show really wants. It's just that the cliffhanger they used doesn't really seem like a cliffhanger at all for Dr. Scott because she's already served the purpose for which she's been presented. In the function she's served to the story so far, she's no longer needed. I can see how this might be very upsetting to you if you really enjoyed the character. In that case, rest assured that I do not pay attention to casting news so I have no idea whether or not the actress is signed on for another season or if she's moving on. If she's staying, then I'm sure they can find a good way to create a new purpose for the character. Link to comment
HalcyonDays September 7, 2015 Author Share September 7, 2015 So I'm not the only one that noticed this. The 'immune' was sick . Was he? I don't remember. Need to watch it again. If this is the case, then there is your season 3. I bet mutation or something hitting the immunes, then maybe spreading to the rest of the world. Hmm... 1 Link to comment
TV Anonymous September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 My slight concern about next season is the relevance of the ship and the crew. Now that CDR Chandler is appointed CNO, he would not be aboard the ship anymore, would he? Of course he could pull a Captain Kirk and remain in command of his ship. He could also run the Nathan James aground, got demoted back to Commander and got a brand new ship, :-) If the next season and beyond is about rebuilding the nation, then Nathan James and her crew can no longer be 'the last ship', thus the relevance of the title. However again, there are precedents in The Good Wife and Rookie Blue. Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 It seems to me, Scott being shot was TPTB giving her a dose of her own medicine. After all, she illegally killed that nice scientist fella, right? By the by - where was the order from the president to not fire on U.S. citizens when they got to Memphis? Someone explain the difference for me? Thank you. Link to comment
Texasmom1970 September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 Pretty sure Dr. Scott will pull through eventually. But her being shot of course will make Chandler realize he has some feelings for her. This will give him a new mission to find the asshole who shot her, in addition to curing the rest of the infected. 1 Link to comment
xaxat September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 So I'm not the only one that noticed this. The 'immune' was sick . I don't think he was. He looked weary, dirty and sweaty, but didn't have the telltale sores and boils. But, as we all know, there's nothing preventing the writers from retconning it. 1 Link to comment
thuganomics85 September 8, 2015 Share September 8, 2015 (edited) Thought this episode was ending a bit too neatly, so I wasn't too surprised over the Immune guy shooting Dr. Scott. If this show was based in realism, she should be dead after that shot (plus, with the cure in effect, I'm not sure if they need her expertise as much), but on this show, I guess they could pull some kind of bullshit over her surviving somehow. I guess it depends on if they want to keep paying Rhona Mirta or if she wanted out or not. I guess we'll find out next season. Hope so, since Rhona and her accent is one of my favorite things about this show. Besides that, basically a walk for the Nathan James, with Jeter of all people, being the biggest screw-up with his in-laws and causing the cure plan to almost crash before it even began. But after that little slip-up, everything else is cool. Immunes cause some ruckus, but nothing too hard. Tex finds his daughter, everyone is back to trusting the military again, and Milcher is officially sworn in. And then a party in St. Louie! While I know he is only the producer, this episode felt the most Michael Bay-ish, with the opening speech with the President being intercut with various people in different parts of the country reacting to it, and then the scene of them dispersing the cure with soft music and slo-mo. Dead or not, I did like that I was right that Milcher ended up pardoning Scott. I know Chandler looked somewhat happy about it, but I was still thinking that if part of him was upset, he had to remind himself he was the one that helped Milcher get that power, so he in turn, kind of screwed himself over on that front. Edited September 8, 2015 by thuganomics85 Link to comment
Brian Cronin September 8, 2015 Share September 8, 2015 It was hilarious how he shot her up close but they made sure not to actually show the wound, because they wanted to hide that she was shot, like, in the shoulder or something like that. Overall, I did enjoy the finale. I think you can easily keep the show going while America is being rebuilt. They already talked about the various Warlords they're dealing with on top of the Immunes still controlling Europe. There's plenty to do still. 1 Link to comment
GoMocs September 8, 2015 Share September 8, 2015 Maybe we should start an email campaign for them to cancel next season. They told the story, they had a great ending...it was finished. Then they threw that cliff hanger in there. I ask, what is wrong with telling a great story in one or two seasons then letting it end then coming up with a completely new story? We loved the show, but I doubt we will watch it next summer, the story has been told. Link to comment
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