S07.E18: Rumble On The Runway

[zoeysmom]

The video's still there.  The link was faulty when I tried it a few days ago, so I went to her main page, and there it was.  I just watched it again, so unless it's been saved in my cache somehow--which I doubt--it's still up and working.

http://www.sonjamorgannewyork.com/

It is working--thanks.  I think as a well done video and Sonja looked really, really happy.

[AnnA]

My cable guide shows RHOC First Look on Sunday, August 2nd - 8:30 - 9:00 PM EST and nothing for NY which can't be right.  The First Look for NY has to be included in that half hour.

Edited August 2, 2015 by AnnA

[WireWrap]

Hey, did I miss "first look" tonight for NY? I watched the OC FL and then the show with Jeff FL but there was nothing for NY! Did they air NY earlier and I missed it or is Bravo not doing 1 for NY anymore? LOL

[AnnA]

My cable guide shows RHOC First Look on Sunday, August 2nd - 8:30 - 9:00 PM EST and nothing for NY which can't be right.  The First Look for NY has to be included in that half hour.

 

That was disappointing.  I'm not that interested in the OC but I do enjoy Jeff Lewis.

 

Does anyone know why there wasn't a First Look for RHONY tonight?

[AnnaMayWong]

Well, once again, Heather, Heather, Heather.

[AnnaMayWong]

Well, since we are on the subject: Dorinda should adopt non-infringement patterns of...in regards to Heather then also. After all, Heather has done nothing to encourage Dorinda's involvement in her affairs. Dorinda just foisted upon Heather her yappings, instructions, and "opinions". No invitation. No summons. Dorinda entrenched the "nice just doesn't work with you (bitches)" by rancorously DIMWITwittering about Heather con-stant-ly. Talk about a coarse individual--thy name is DORINDA MEDdle(some, ling..).

Edited August 3, 2015 by BookElitist

[breezy424]

How can you select a model without seeing the clothes she will be wearing?  Way back when, I used to be involved with interviewing models for a national magazine fashion section as well as for a publicity firm.  You have to see how their coloring and body shape will work with the color and fit of the clothes they will be wearing.  Sonja and her 'people' did looked like amateurs.  

 

Also, you try to reserve your judgements after you look at the model.  Most often, you look at their portfolio, you look at them, have them turn, have them walk (in the case of doing runway), you might have them hold up a garment against them to see if color works.  You say thank you and then discuss.   

[Tara Ariano]

It's Fashion Week and (mis)adventures abound. Here, models are chosen for Sonja's fashion show; an excited Kristen hopes to debut her nail-polish line; and chaos spills out along the runway at Sonja's show, where Ramona tries to run away from the runway.

[motorcitymom65]

How can you select a model without seeing the clothes she will be wearing?  Way back when, I used to be involved with interviewing models for a national magazine fashion section as well as for a publicity firm.  You have to see how their coloring and body shape will work with the color and fit of the clothes they will be wearing.  Sonja and her 'people' did looked like amateurs.  

 

Also, you try to reserve your judgements after you look at the model.  Most often, you look at their portfolio, you look at them, have them turn, have them walk (in the case of doing runway), you might have them hold up a garment against them to see if color works.  You say thank you and then discuss.   

Exactly. I think she just looked a bit out of her element. Heather won't ever win with Sonja. If she tries to point out the obvious, that she needs to understand the clothes before she can effectively give advice on the models, it will look like she is trying to take over and make Sonja look stupid. Sonja isn't really looking for help. She is looking for someone to come in and tell her that she is awesome and she is all over it. It will be interesting, because I imagine that Heather will take the brunt of Sonja's criticism, even though Beth will be right with Heather and agreeing with her on something that Heather knows a lot about. 

 

This is the thing I dig about Beth and the reason she can stay next season as far as I am concerned. She can be harsh, and she can jump to conclusions quickly, but she is able to self-reflect and admit when someone knows their stuff. She will give credit where credit is due. She is the one who recommended to Sonja way back at the beginning of the season that she needed to involve Heather, and that was when she didn't think much of Heather's personality. She got that Heather would have something crucial to offer, even if she didn't really like her. That is a quality that I like in a person. It is often hard to stand back and give someone credit for anything when you don't like them. 

[BettyPoz]

Was there actually a First Look this week?  My DVR didn't record anything but everyone here seems to know what's going on...

[breezy424]

Was there actually a First Look this week?  My DVR didn't record anything but everyone here seems to know what's going on...

There was no first look this week for RHNY - just for RHOC and Flipping Out.

[BeachyMum]

 Only Luann trots around in her fashion for the masses, the other women pull on Yummie products but day to day the are wearing their Lulu Lemon to work out or the $300.00 jeans, and probably wearing Spanx under their clothes. 

 

Not everyone shops the RH products for value.  Lisa Vanderpump was selling some household accessories that were higher than the norm.  These women all trot around in red souled shoes that regularly go for more than $1,000.00 a pair.  Sonja said she would come up with a fashion line, have it at fashion week and she did.  Judging from the video it was well received.  Whether or not she hit it out of the park is irrelevant-her two faced friends, two thirds of them who apologized to her  not too terribly long ago, are sitting around making cracks about her right before her show.  That is the story not whether or not her line is successful.  The two faces only prove what Sonja has been saying she doesn't need friends like these women.  Just because Sonja doesn't want a value line doesn't mean she can't be successful.  What won't happen with her marketing plan is seeing her clothes at TJMaxx or Ross or Marshall's where one sees a lot of Yummie and Skinny Girl products.  People have posted time and time again the successful gals have a lot of product that ends up in close out bins.

 

 

I don't think you can compare Heather's business success to any of the NY housewives.  Before Heather was on RHONY she was  already internationally known in the business, 2008 Oprah listed Yummie's tank as one of her favorite things, Heather was already in Nordstrom. Now she is in both Bloomingdale's and Nordstrom... plus you can buy online via her site and many others.   Beth got lucky and the show helped her in launching Skinny Girl.   With all that said even as well known as Heather and Yummie are I would never spend $1,500 on ANY housewife product.  To me it looks like Sonja is in way over head and how well does she even know these backers? It looks kinda shady and unprofessional to me.

Edited August 4, 2015 by BeachyMum

[njbchlover]

OMG....poor Sonja - she actually has to work at her own fashion show??  

 

That's what happens when you "hire" interns and only let them pour white wine into champagne glasses.....

 

Maybe all those buyers' seat place cards aren't there because they declined the invitation??  

Edited August 5, 2015 by njbchlover

[bravofan27]

I'm the first one to post!!! I liked the episode. Sonja was bridezilla, or fashion show zilla. She was very cranky. Bethanny's hair looked sleek and beautiful and the fashion show. 

[nexxie]

Yikes, what chaos - poor delusional Sonja!

[talula]

Sonja is a guest on WWHL at 10 PM.

Hahaha Beth is calling out Ramona on her crap! New beginnings party...Beth doesn't believe it.

Edited August 5, 2015 by talula

[JAYJAY1979]

Sonja + interns + a phantom dress line...I certainly am surprised there were problems lol

[njbchlover]

Wow - Ramona's chest is getting very, very red....shades of Alex red!!  

 

She cannot handle being called out by Bethenny.  Although, enough already about the stupid dress (or dresses) from your cancelled TV show.

[JAYJAY1979]

Ramona getting nervous...priceless

Edited August 5, 2015 by JAYJAY1979

[nexxie]

The show was chaotic behind the scenes, but the clothes looked good in the end!

[Thumper]

Has Sonja's line ever been manufactured? Or was the fashion show the beginning and the end?

[LIGirl]

Am I the only one who can't help but wonder if those clothes were truly Sonja originals and not ripped off of a much lesser known "designer", or ripped off the racks somewhere entirely?

[Straycat80]

This episode was kind of a yawner.

Sonja's fashion show was chaotic but everyone liked her clothes so I guess it was a success. I wonder if these clothes will be sold in Macy's or on QVC?

I'm glad Bethenny called out Moaner on her big mouth and her bad behavior.

[njbchlover]

You can actually order items from Sonja's website now!!!  I guess it has all come together.

[Eater of Worlds]

Anyone else see Ramona checking out her new boobies?

[njbchlover]

Sonja's face is looking very strange on WWHL....aside from the overuse of bronzer.  Wonder what she did?

Edited August 5, 2015 by njbchlover

[snowblossom2]

Sonja is looking rough on wwhl

[talula]

Congratulations Sonja...you did it!

Her link : http://www.sonjamorgannewyork.com

Edited August 5, 2015 by talula

[escatefromny]

Sonja is looking rough on wwhl

The center part is doing her no favors.

[snowblossom2]

The center part is doing her no favors.

Nor her spray tan! She looks like she belongs on Jersey Shore lol.

[nexxie]

Ramona getting nervous...priceless

Looks like this battle gets even more interesting next week!

[Straycat80]

Sonja, on WWHL now, has weird looking Egytpian like eye make on. Too much bronzer.

Her outfit is nice though.

[Booger666]

I thought the clothes were terrible. If I were Sonja, I wouldn't brag about it taking me years and years to do what others do in a matter of months.

[njbchlover]

Anyone else think it's really weird that we went two weeks with hardly any scenes with LuAnn?  

[Aunt Kiki]

Sonja, on WWHL now, has weird looking Egytpian like eye make on. Too much bronzer.

Her outfit is nice though.

Looks like she's having an eye makeup malfunction, especially the left eye.

[Booger666]

I enjoyed seeing Elie Tahari. His clothes are beautiful and he comes across as very charming and genuine.

[BettyPoz]

I enjoyed the show until the Ramona/Bethenny bickering.  Stupid place (as always) to have a "discussion" like that.  

[njbchlover]

I enjoyed seeing Elie Tahari. His clothes are beautiful and he comes across as very charming and genuine.

 

Love, love, love Elie Tahari....now, THOSE are clothes!!  And, yes, he seems like a gracious gentleman.  I remember seeing him on an episode of "Project Runway" and he was a wonderful guest judge.  No snark, very complimentary when he could be, and offered real constructive criticism and sound advice when that was needed.

 

Sonja's fashion line is nice, but nothing special.  I think she, too, has designed "for the masses, not the classes", much the same way as Luann's line.  The only difference is price.  Sonja's seem overpriced to me.

Edited August 5, 2015 by njbchlover

[motorcitymom65]

Anyone else think it's really weird that we went two weeks with hardly any scenes with LuAnn?

What is wierd to me is that we are seeing zero interaction between Lu and Heather and Carole. Heather's whole deal this season has been that she and Lu made up after T&C. That they were fine and Lu made it look like they were having issues at the very end. They were sitting next to each other tonight at the show and it looked like they were getting along. Strange that Bravo isn't showing their interactions so that we can get an idea as to who is telling the truth.

[Rahul]

So if Lady Morgan really was a model, how come the Bravo editing monkeys aren't inserting a pic or quick video package to substantiate these claims? Or is Sonja being liberal with her lingo and using model as another euphemism for escort--or more plainly, hooker?

That's one rumor I have heard; Sonja used to "keep company" with wealthy Saudis back in the day.

Edited August 5, 2015 by Rahul

[Aunt Kiki]

Wow - Ramona's chest is getting very, very red....shades of Alex red!!  

 

She cannot handle being called out by Bethenny.  Although, enough already about the stupid dress (or dresses) from your cancelled TV show.

I kind of understand why Bethenny is battering her with the dress caper because Ramona seems to thinks that her actions are above reproach.  She never has really admitted that she took the dresses with the intent of not returning them.  For all of her protestations - the assistant said she could have the dress and she emailed Bethenny's office to find out where she should send the second dress - Bethenny soundly refuted those protests - and the next thing she said was that she would pay Bethenny.   I loved the look on her face when Bethenny said $545.  JMO but I think the only way to deal with Ramona's shady behavior is to put her on blast - regardless of whether it's Bethenny or anyone else. 

[jojomano]

Fashion Week! Yay!

[AnnA]

I kind of understand why Bethenny is battering her with the dress caper because Ramona seems to thinks that her actions are above reproach.  She never has really admitted that she took the dresses with the intent of not returning them.  For all of her protestations - the assistant said she could have the dress and she emailed Bethenny's office to find out where she should send the second dress - Bethenny soundly refuted those protests - and the next thing she said was that she would pay Bethenny.   I loved the look on her face when Bethenny said $545.  JMO but I think the only way to deal with Ramona's shady behavior is to put her on blast - regardless of whether it's Bethenny or anyone else. 

 

They had a poll on WWHL asking people who they agreed with in the Bethenny vs Ramona argument.

 

It was  a landslide for Bethenny with 92% of the vote.   Sonja was on WWHL and even she said someone needed to call out Ramona for her BS.

Edited August 5, 2015 by AnnA

[njbchlover]

So if Lady Morgan really was a model, how come the Bravo editing monkeys aren't inserting a pic or quick video package to substantiate these claims? Or is Sonja being liberal with her lingo and using model as another euphemism for escort--or more plainly, hooker?

That's one rumor I have heard; Sonja used to "keep company" with wealthy Saudis back in the day.

 

I think you're more right than Sonja.  She does have a way of embellishing (and, no, not just jeans for charity, LOL!!!)

[LotusFlower]

What is wierd to me is that we are seeing zero interaction between Lu and Heather and Carole. Heather's whole deal this season has been that she and Lu made up after T&C. That they were fine and Lu made it look like they were having issues at the very end. They were sitting next to each other tonight at the show and it looked like they were getting along. Strange that Bravo isn't showing their interactions so that we can get an idea as to who is telling the truth.

It doesn't fit the narrative. The whole stupid "they broke the girl code" and now they're not talking storyline.

Good for Sonja for having a show, but without buyers there, what was the point? It felt like a vanity project.

The Bethenny/Ramona fight was weird. I'm totally on Bethenny's side, but why did she accost her like that at a fashion show? And it all seemed to come out of nowhere. Pent-up anger? Producer driven?

[Wendy]

I loved the way Bethenny handled Ramona tonight, no yelling, crying, completely in control. Ramona wanted to use her old tricks and Bethenny refused to let her get away with it.

I specially loved the part where Ramona told Bethenny that she should move somewhere else and Bethenny replied she was going nowhere and Ramina could go somewhere else if she wanted to.

Ramona sure is not use to people calling her out and her fake apologies not working out.

[motorcitymom65]

I loved the way Bethenny handled Ramona tonight, no yelling, crying, completely in control. Ramona wanted to use her old tricks and Bethenny refused to let her get away with it.

I specially loved the part where Ramona told Bethenny that she should move somewhere else and Bethenny replied she was going nowhere and Ramina could go somewhere else if she wanted to.

Ramona sure is not use to people calling her out and her fake apologies not working out.

Did you see how Ramona was perspiring? Her face was one greasy mess. She was so busted and she didn't know how to get out of it. Her usual line of "I'm not perfect; no one is perfect" just wasn't working. It was a "wrong place" kind of deal, but I have literally waited years for this. Years for someone to just tell Ramona exactly how ridiculous she is, so I will take it anyway I can get it.

[WireWrap]

Anyone else think it's really weird that we went two weeks with hardly any scenes with LuAnn?  

I would replace the word "weird" with the word "nice"! LOL

[AnnA]

The Bethenny/Ramona fight was weird. I'm totally on Bethenny's side, but why did she accost her like that at a fashion show? And it all seemed to come out of nowhere. Pent-up anger? Producer driven?

 

Did you see how Ramona was perspiring? Her face was one greasy mess. She was so busted and she didn't know how to get out of it. Her usual line of "I'm not perfect; no one is perfect" just wasn't working. It was a "wrong place" kind of deal, but I have literally waited years for this. Years for someone to just tell Ramona exactly how ridiculous she is, so I will take it anyway I can get it.

 

The possibility of it being producer driven is a given.  However, I got the impression that Heather recently told Bethenny (exactly when I do not know) what Ramona said and Bethenny just wasn't waiting for the "right" moment to confront Ramona.  Then again, don't the HW's rules include one that says the right time for anything is always in front of the cameras?

 

MCM...........I'll take it anyway I can get it too was loving it and can't wait to see what happens next week and at the reunion.

Edited August 5, 2015 by AnnA

[WireWrap]

Did anyone else catch Bethenny saying she thought they were to see Sonja's clothing line at that model meeting with Heather, as did Heather? Sounds like both Heather and Bethenny were told it was something other than what it was. I also noticed that Sonja got mad at Heather for what Bethenny said and refused to back off Heather even when Bethenny admitted she said it not Heather. Why do I get the feeling that Sonja was trying to make Heather look bad on purpose and hoped Bethenny would help her do it?!?