BettyPoz

I can get shouty when I get passionate about something- with alot of hand waving in person with friends. <shrug> I had a boss that used to say "tell me how you really feel Betty". Otherwise I'm pretty low key. Glad your husband's Polish family is of a more peaceful nature. I haven't been able to uncover anything that tells me Adam comes from a very traditional family. I just read in an online article where he said his parents told him he was "doing it backwards" - just out of college, broke and starting a non-profit. His bio on chefak.com didn't tell me anything about his upbringing. Actually - I found his grandmother's obituary from May 6, 2015. She was 84 and the obit said "Marcie identified herself as a country girl. She said my little sis, Vivian, was the city girl. Marcie enjoyed all the special family times at the farm when they headed down to the river. They built fires, roasted hot dogs and waded in the river. Her family traveled extensively, pulling a camper to Yellowstone, Mount Rushmore, Ozarks, Texas and many more places. Every evening, meals were by the campfire so by the end of each vacation Marcie would treat herself to a banana split for all her efforts. That banana split treat continued through the years." She sounds like a neat lady - maybe that's where Adam developed his love for adventure. I admire and applaud people who go out on a limb and take risks (I am not one of them other than meeting my future husband, moving cross country to him 4 months later and getting married 26 years ago to him). Or follow their heart rather than the call of money. I know many of them may not be doing it alone but have support of parents financially in some small or large amount but I just find myself defending those who "live outside the box".

Wow - tough crowd....not everyone is born to wear a suit and work in a cubicle.

Well as a TWIN GIRL with an 18 month older SISTER to boot, I can tell you growing up there was NO HIGH ROAD! No was there any parental refereeing now that I think of it. LOL. We survived, and know how to fight (and pick) our battles. If someone's being a dick, they're going to be told they're being a dick. Walk away? Fuck that - I'm Polish, you're going to hear from me what I think about you.

I copied the following from the website ChefAk.com - as in Adam Kenworthy: His interest in endurance sports began shortly after receiving his bachelor’s degree from Colorado State University. To help raise money for the Big City Mountaineers organization, Adam set out with his bicycle and a small bike trailer on a journey that would take him nearly 4,000 miles - from the state of Washington to the coast of Maine. Since then, he has traveled the world competing in some of the most prestigious and challenging races known to man. This includes: “Cascade Crest 100” 100-mile trail run through the Central Cascades of Washington State “Silver Rush 50 Run” 50-mile trail run in Leadville, CO Twice at the “24 Hours of Moab” mountain bike team relay Three 26-mile marathons IRONMAN triathlon in Australia. Adam also loves mountain sports, especially mountaineering and backcountry snowboarding. He has experience mountaineering the Himalayas of India & Nepal and spent much of his college years exploring Colorado backcountry searching for tranquility in the form of fresh powder. Working as a private chef & healthy living coach in New York City, Adam divides his time between his clients and Nicaragua where he has founded a non-profit organic fruit farm (Finca Santa Marta.) He now spends his spare time trail running in Central park and finding serenity in the waves of Long Island. Somehow I don't think Mom and Dad would have much to say about who he dates.....sounds pretty frigging mature for 29 to me....

A thousand thumbs up for your post Lucelu 1) how has Carole behaved publicly that is offensive? 2) What would be indictive? Do you mean indicative? and what? Is Carole somehow showing you how she would react if she and Adam broke up? Who would she be vindictive to? 3) Scratching my head at the "twins" thing but ok - what even though Lu brought this shit up, Carole's the skunk because she won't back down? 4) as the mother of a 25 year old...hmmm good question. I will say that at 25 he's much more mature than he was at 23 and at 29 I bet he'll be even more mature.

you must be watching an edited version - LOL - because my blood boils more watch RHOBH episodes and reunion more than NY every season

Oh you and me both. I CANNOT STAND HER! Oh no -- was Nicole the niece that a few seasons ago Luann and niece went to some bar or nightclub or something. I remember the "niece's" outfit was really dumb looking and couldn't get past it. Would it be less possessive/needy if they were closer in age? If he/she were dying of cancer? My husband or I don't leave the house without giving each other a kiss and saying goodbye. Why would anyone find that wrong? All this talk about Carole and whether she "chose" not to have children...or circumstances dictated....etc. and so on makes me think of 2 friends who didn't find love and a husband until their mid-30s and then found themselves unable to get pregnant. One adopted and the other never had children. Ooh, is it co-incidental they both work in television? I scratch my head now to figure out are they to blame because they didn't settle down soon enough? Should I sympathize because they didn't find love soon enough? Should they have known before they found love that they wanted children? Think about it with Carole....obviously with Anthony there would not be any children. So now, she's in her mid-30s and oh boy that clock is ticking! Does she hear it? I had to look it up -- She was already THIRTY SIX when he died. Man - ya know what? childless by choice? Fuck that. Thirty-fucking-six years old and your husband has just died of cancer less than 4 weeks after your very close (god forbid I say "best") friends.

"Not exactly the same" ? That's putting it mildly! A visit to a designer for a dress leads to borrowing dresses....because you're a greedy bitch. A visit to someone's house leads to a romance....because you are two humans attracted to each other. But I think all the old rich wrinkly men are beating them to it! All fair in love and war! I think there's a time limit isn't there that after a certain period of time you don't have to ASK permission of anyone to date anyone else? What is this - middle school? And yeah! What someone else said about Harry! Obviously LuAnn doesn't follow her "you should have asked my permission!" rule cus wasn't she boinking Harry at the same time Sonja was?

I can't even see a connection between the two to make it remotely hypocritical.....One is a designer family friend being used as a personal closet and the other is someone dating someone's nieces ex? What the heck am I missing here?

I can understand Carole not wanting JFK Jr.'s name to be associated with Sonja in any way! My mind is officially blown for the day. I cannot comprehend that Sonja is younger that what JFK Jr would be only because I will forever see him as a young man. And I see her as an old hag (she's younger than me! No way!) I have a newspaper and the People magazine from when they died. Broke my heart. I give Carole permission to guard whatever memories she has of him and Carolyn in any way she wants to.

I'm not fond of either look. Kristen's because I become focused on her boobs waiting for a Nip slip (yeah I'm a 12 year old boy) and Heather's outfit just looks messy.

hahaha then you don't want to be in the same room when I have to repeat something to my husband for the 3rd time because he just.doesn't.get.it.fast.enough.! On the other hand, I thought it was a fabulous parting shot if she is prepared to leave. I love it!

Hahaha! Where do you find this shit? No - my teeth are not that big. I am a mini-Heather. But I can speak in a slow controlled manner she does that oh might come across as condescending to some people. Must be all those elementary school kids I had to deal with through the years (library aide, lunch room aide).

hahahaha! Everytime someone points out some flaw in Heather I realize - I do that too!! Haha. I am such a finger pointer! Not for accusation purposes but for emphasis. Sometimes I catch myself and pull it back in. I'm also a conversation butt-inner! OMG - from the next room in my house I will insert myself into a conversation! I would so pop into that Bethenny/Ramona convo with my 2 cents. Because I am ALSO an armchair psychologist! Add me to the Holla Honey list! I adore Heather.

And that's a shame because although I have variety of department stores near me, I think nothing of picking clothes up at Wal-Mart because I'm there every week grocery shopping and it's the closest of stores to me.