Unpopular Opinions: "I hate BLTs from Kelly's!"

[Jazzy24]

My UO is that I didn't care that TPTB killed Jake I giggled when I heard they went there.

I hate all things Jiz so their kid getting killed off was okay with me. My hatred comes from the fact that Sam was character assassinated for Jiz to happen, she had to watch a baby be kidnapped, have married 5 men by the age of 22, hired thugs to scare Liz and her children, suduce Lucky, and sleep with her mother's husband all for Jiz to happen and be labeled the poor helpless victims of Sam.

So yeah after all that I was more than happy to see Jake go

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

.So yeah after all that I was more than happy to see Jake go

 

I've always maintained that Jake is a mistake that should never have existed. His existence was a constant reminder of the destruction caused by his conception. 

[Jazzy24]

I've always maintained that Jake is a mistake that should never have existed. His existence was a constant reminder of the destruction caused by his conception.

I think that the idea of Jake was a good one but a very poorly heavy handed story that was crap.

I did not mind Jason and Liz. I'm a Sam fan and I enjoyed Jasam but when her and Jason broke up I was fine with it I was fine with Sam getting some focus having her own small little stories and growing as a character away from Jason. Anyways soap couples break up and do wacky things meet new people etc.... I was ready for that for Sam so Jiz was something I welcomed.

I just didn't like Sam's character destruction and how Jason and Liz were made to look like the victims. The writers had to make Sam do something so terrible that Jiz would be welcomed by the audience and that's when my hate for all things Jiz was forever sealed. I didn't mind Jake at all he was cute and I could see stories for him being Jason/Liz's kid but Sam had to do a lot of evil things just so Jiz could sell and that's when I was done and when Jake died all I could do was giggle because I'm so bitter about the SOS

[LeftPhalange]

I rooted for Sam when she let Jake get kidnapped and hired goons to scare him and Liz. I just wish she would have gotten away with it without anyone finding out.

[Chairperson Meow]

Sam and Lucky was some hot stuff.

[HeatLifer]

I hated that they had to make Sam EVUL for Liz to look sweet as cherry pie. That's my pet peeve with all shows. When they write a character OOC to make another sympathetic.

I think Billy Miller is adorable. And I'm not bothered that Jason is all fun and giggly and jokey because he's NOT Jason right now. And maybe the show doesn't want him to be that version anymore. Maybe he really will be a mesh of Q and Morgan.

I also think he has chem with BH, but there's not enough chemistry in the world that will ever make me want Jason to end up with Liz. Story has always been >>>>> chemistry for me.

Edited October 27, 2014 by HeatLifer

[Cobalt Stargazer]

I rooted for Sam when she let Jake get kidnapped and hired goons to scare him and Liz. I just wish she would have gotten away with it without anyone finding out.

 

I'll be honest, I didn't hate it either. It just made me hate Jason even more that he threatened to kill Sam over it but barely even reacted when Liz not being able to read a paternity test is how Jake got out in the road in the first place.

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

I was fine with Sam getting some focus having her own small little stories and growing as a character away from Jason.

 

 

If only that is what happened. She was growing as a character by fucking her stepfather in her mother's living room. Just so Jasus will get an eyeful and get stinking drunk with Liz.

 

I'll be honest, I didn't hate it either. It just made me hate Jason even more that he threatened to kill Sam over it but barely even reacted when Liz not being able to read a paternity test is how Jake got out in the road in the first place.

 

 

He barely reacts to Liz at all. Good or bad, he is always whatevs when it comes to Liz. She's never been able to get much of a reaction from him

[LeftPhalange]

 

He barely reacts to Liz at all. Good or bad, he is always whatevs when it comes to Liz. She's never been able to get much of a reaction from him

 

I was pissed that Jason barely had a reaction when Liz told him she messed with Danny's paternity test. I didn't expect him to threaten to kill Saint Liz but he could have at least yelled at her.

[dubbel zout]

Babies are what writers use when they're too lazy to think up creative stories for women. I don't consider that a character trait.

Edited October 28, 2014 by dubbel zout

[ulkis]

You are remembering wrong, she's wanted to be a mother since she lost her first child. All those things you mentioned happened after the death of Lila. After she's caught the motherhood bug. It had nothing to do with Liz or Jiz. Thank God! She was actually trying for a baby when Liz got pregnant with Jake, but that is another post for when I am truly  bitter.

 

She lost her daughter within a year or so into her introduction, the yearning for motherhood started during the pregnancy. Most of her actions was defined by that yearning till she had Danny. She was so consistent that she did some stupid shit, like buy babies off black markets, to make it happen. If that is not defining on a soap, then I don't know what is. 

 

If wanting to be a mother is not positive, then it is not negative either. It could be both and in Sam's case it was. I mentioned the black market baby but she was also fiercely protective of Kristina and Michael when they were kids, a trait I credit to her wanting to be a mother. But I was replying to a post that said she had no personality or that she morphs into whatever given her pairings. 

 

I didn't mean to imply that wanting to be a mother was a negative or positive personality trait, just that it didn't seem like a trait at all - when you ask someone what someone is like, you don't usually say "they want to be a mother a lot". I guess, like you said though, it's something consistent that she wanted/did though.

Babies are what writers use when they're too lazy to think up creative stories for women. I don't consider that a character trait.

 

Yes, you can see it in how they write Lulu now.

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

Babies are what writers use when they're too lazy to think up creative stories for women. I don't consider that a character trait.

 

 

I can discount a slew of characterization based on this reasoning. And maybe I am getting the definition of a character trait wrong. 

 

In general soap writers are lazy, creativity is long gone from soaps. That is why the genre is dying.

[WendyCR72]

Okay, this is going wildly off topic, gang. Take the Sam chatter to that character's thread, please, and thank you.

[UYI]

I kind of wanted Joss and Emma to turn out to be the opposite of what Carly and Robin were: Emma being more of a bad girl, and Joss being the nice girl. I mean, I would want Emma to be more of a sympathetic bad girl, not a monster or anything, but I just think it would be hilarious if Carly had ended up with a good girl daughter who didn't know how to deal with her morally deficient mom. 

[MSquared]

Okay, I'm going to say it.  My unpopular opinion is, I LOVED LIASON!  I mean, loved loved loved.  I loved her pregnancy story, I mourned the 5 second engagement ending.  I loved that the shat all over Sam (hate her and didn't think it was that OOC for her to pull that shit on Liz.  Almost getting in touch with her Cassadine roots.)  I thought Liz and Jason had enough history that the story worked.  

I kind of wanted Joss and Emma to turn out to be the opposite of what Carly and Robin were: Emma being more of a bad girl, and Joss being the nice girl. I mean, I would want Emma to be more of a sympathetic bad girl, not a monster or anything, but I just think it would be hilarious if Carly had ended up with a good girl daughter who didn't know how to deal with her morally deficient mom. 

 

Slightly OT, but I would have loved it if they made Joss and Emma friends.  Doing and and seeing Robin and Carly's heads spin?  GREAT!

[dubbel zout]

I would have loved it if they made Joss and Emma friends.  Doing and and seeing Robin and Carly's heads spin?  GREAT!

Carly would be more bothered than Robin.

 

Ron never takes the more interesting route.

[HeatLifer]

This is a UO in terms of the show, but I cannot even explain how much I love that Mikey LOVES AJ and refers to him as a father. I literally squeed today when he told Carly that he was going to get to the bottom of his murder NO MATTER WHAT.

I know Ron will ruin everything and have Michael eventually forgive Sonny/Carly, but I will EAT UP every single second that he freaking despises them.

And I'll pass OUT if he starts calling himself Michael Quartermaine.

Edited October 29, 2014 by HeatLifer

[Chairperson Meow]

I'll cheer if he calls himself Alan Edward Quartermaine.

Dump the Sonny name totally.

And I liked Liz till she got around Nik again. As long as she stays away from Nik, I'm okay. But if Lucky comes back, I'm sorry. LL shipper here. Forever. I'm of the opinion that no one should be with Nik though. I hate Dickolas.

[CPP83]

My UO of the day is that I just cannot find anything to like about Morgan, either as the character or the actor.

 

The actor is just barely tolerable, imho, and he's picking up way too many scene cues from Maurice. Watching him today with Maurice was like watching a young and old version of the same person, it was horrendous. To me I didn't see any acting, I saw a shouting/twitching stand off with weird pauses, crazy faces and jazz hands galore that would make the oldest Broadway star proud.

 

And as for Morgan the character, I just don't care for the kid. I don't care how many times he screams or yells or pouts at Sonny, it doesn't endear him to me, if anything it makes him all the more annoying. I don't need or want to see this brat take Sonny down, he can barely manage to wipe his own ass still how the hell is he a threatening figure to Sonny? He stands to lose as much as the grease ball in all this, so he can just have a whole stadium worth of seats as far as I'm concerned.

 

Not to mention that since he has no job or any other such means to support himself he needs either Sonny or Michael or Carly to keep him housed and fed or else he'd have nothing, it isn't as if Ava is tapping into some off shore account for funds to keep them afloat, hell she's leaning on him as her sole provider, since she apparently thinks her big brother wouldn't be a better option to turn to...it's all just the silliest bullshit Ron currently has going by far, imho.

[ulkis]

I've been enjoying GH more or less since the Stavros shit ended. With the exception of Nina. She needed to go yesterday.

[Harmony233]

I've enjoyed most of GH the last couple weeks sure stuff stuff was stupid glad some drama is finally happening though.IA about Nina though.When Heathers looking more sane than her something is wrong lol.

[Chairperson Meow]

I like MSt, but this character is way too wonky. They are going to need a Hail Mary to redeem Nina, and being Kiki's mom or rehashing tumor blame will just alienate people.

I also don't think Kiki is Coma Baby. Way too obvious. But I wouldn't be surprised if Coma Baby is some other character on canvas. That will be how they redeem Nina.

I also think Bryan Craig is a great actor, but in the wrong role. He should be Micheal. And I like Chad.

[LeftPhalange]

I'm ready for Nina to get a mental illness so we can move on from all the craziness. After she throws Ava's baby in the sewer, of course. And while Ron is handing out free passes he can feel free to give Carly a tumor or something so we can pretend like Cranco never happened.

[Chairperson Meow]

I don't really care about tumors. I'm waiting for Ron to learn about ebola. Tumors are so 2013.

[KerleyQ]

I would take Felix over Brad any day and twice on Sunday.  I remain unable to fathom Lucas hitting town and being obsessively attracted to...that. 

[boes]

I would take Felix over Brad any day and twice on Sunday.  I remain unable to fathom Lucas hitting town and being obsessively attracted to...that. 

 

I COMPLETELY agree about ... that.  Brad is just awful IMO, in each and every way.  I'd call him a rodent but that would be an insult to rodents everywhere.  Felix, however......he gets an UGH from me too.  I can't stand him either.  

Lucas should have chosen celibacy or online porn when he saw what was on offer in Port Charles.

[yowsah1]

I think Billy Miller is adorable. 

 

Me too.  I guess it's an unpopular opinion (sadly), but to me Billy Miller has been a breath of fresh air to this soap.  It's just so refreshing to see an actor that is actually present and alert and reactive in his scenes instead of a Borg.

Edited November 4, 2014 by yowsah1

[HeatLifer]

Me too. I guess it's an unpopular opinion (sadly), but to me Billy Miller has been a breath of fresh air to this soap. It's just so refreshing to see an actor that is actually present and alert and reactive in his scenes instead of a Borg.

Yep. I completely agree. I get that some were attached to SB, but I got over him back in 2000, so I guess it's just easier for me to accept this recast.

[CPP83]

I don't mind Billy personally but he just didn't need to be saddled with Jason. Jason was good dead and he should have stayed dead, imho.

 

Billy works as a Q, he certainly has the smug and pompous attitude down pat *smirks* but to me a bright golden opportunity was missed by not making him a newer, younger Q.

 

Not that this show needs new characters piling up yet again but with so many now recurring, thank god, or on their way out, fingers crossed, he would have been a welcome addition if they just played their cards right.

 

Make him AJ's son, why the hell not? The timeline is there for the tweaking and without having to suspend belief all that much, if at all. Or he could have been Dillon, I really think that would have been a great recast myself, then all the jokes and smirks and jabs and silliness would make a billion times more sense.

 

But Jason? Why so much time and effort to redeem him? He isn't that bloody necessary to this show. Why do they hinge so much on him? On him being this "almighty savior"? That's where they lose me and not even Billy can draw me back in.

[HeatLifer]

Jason, for reasons I've never really understood, has been a popular character for an extremely long time.

[CPP83]

Jason, for reasons I've never really understood, has been a popular character for an extremely long time.

 

 

 

Sadly that is true, and I think that is a real reason why Ron made Billy Jason in the first place, as if he'd be immediately accepted by most fans because of their love for the characters. Plus I think he feels he didn't get to use Jason enough before Steve left and Ron seems to have this sick need to write for some of the biggest and more infamous characters this show has had, whether that means recasting, rewriting, whatever it takes so he can put his own personal stamp on them somehow.

 

I just think that there were far better roles for Billy based on his actual acting style and presence if Ron would just let his actors do what they're good at and he wasn't so determined to "get his way" all the bloody time.

[HeatLifer]

I see that POV, as well. I think it would have been cool to see Billy portray a brand new character. He has the chops to do it and would have won the fans over. But Ron loves milking the history of the show and twisting it all up to fit his sick vision.

[LeftPhalange]

 

Brad is just awful IMO, in each and every way.  I'd call him a rodent but that would be an insult to rodents everywhere.

 

A used two day old condom is less disgusting than Brad.

[peachmangosteen]

- Finally, Donna Mills may be scary-looking with whatever she's done to her face and all the make-up spackled on, but damn, that woman is a good actress and elevates every single scene she is in.   She is Ron's best "big" catch.   (I don't know if that's an UO.)

 

I'm not sure if it's an UO or not, but I agree with you. DM is killing these scenes and Madeline  consistently gets the best lines. I love her.

 

I go back and forth on Silas. Right now, I like him, and I think ME is doing the best work I've seen him do (only having seen him play John McBain and some of Stephen Clay).

Edited November 4, 2014 by peachmangosteen

[Chairperson Meow]

I miss Ted King.

[kristabell]

Unpopular Opinion: I am about 700% over RH. RH is a good daytime actor; he's not as good as a lot of them historically; and he's not the second coming of Marlon Brando.

And I am even more angry about the character of Franco being re-written so Ron can pretend RH is still playing Todd. RC should have just created a new character named Bob or whatever and dispensed with the pretense.

[TeeVee329]

Unpopular Opinion: I am about 700% over RH. RH is a good daytime actor; he's not as good as a lot of them historically; and he's not the second coming of Marlon Brando.

And I am even more angry about the character of Franco being re-written so Ron can pretend RH is still playing Todd. RC should have just created a new character named Bob or whatever and dispensed with the pretense.

 

Is that opinion unpopular lol?  Well if it is, then I am pulling up a chair at your table.

[Chairperson Meow]

Weren't we calling him George?

I'm still wearing my "I love Roger" hat.

[Dandesun]

Roger's fine for the most part but he doesn't belong on GH. Not anymore. He had two shots. One was blessedly taken out of Ron and Frank's hands and then they blew the second one. Completely.

 

There is no third try. It's long past time for him to go. What's more, I don't think he even cares... he's relying on too many of his old crutches and he's doing very little that's remotely worthwhile. Off to Crescent City with you, Roger. Hopefully The Flash will keep him occupied for the foreseeable future and I PRAY that he has no need of that fucking woobie face there.

[kristabell]

Is that opinion unpopular lol?  Well if it is, then I am pulling up a chair at your table.

Ha! Well, maybe it's not. Come on over!

[LeftPhalange]

 

Unpopular Opinion: I am about 700% over RH. RH is a good daytime actor; he's not as good as a lot of them historically; and he's not the second coming of Marlon Brando.

And I am even more angry about the character of Franco being re-written so Ron can pretend RH is still playing Todd. RC should have just created a new character named Bob or whatever and dispensed with the pretense.

 

I've been over RH since he came back as Franco. Franco is already a wretched worthless vile piece of shit and RH's extremely over the top campiness is just making things so much worse. True, there's absolutely nothing ANYONE could do to save Franco, which is why RH should have never signed up to play him. He's one of Ron's OLTL pets so there's a good chance he could have successfully lobbied for a different character if he wanted.

[Chairperson Meow]

I still want SK back.

No one will take that from me! I remain firm in the pro AJ/anti Sonny camp.

[peachmangosteen]

I'm in that camp, too. And that's why I don't want AJ back!

[LeftPhalange]

I don't care about Michael hating Sonny (and Carly). I just want all of this to be over.

[Chairperson Meow]

I don't want Micheal to shoot Sonny. I want business revenge.

[CPP83]

I don't care about Michael hating Sonny (and Carly). I just want all of this to be over.

 

 

 

Same here, I actually hate that they are at the center of Sweeps to begin with, it isn't as if they've been front and center on this show for years and years, sucking up time from so many other far more deserving characters. Oh wait...

 

Chad's acting is passable but to me it's nothing special and he certainly isn't endearing me to Michael.

 

This damn show has always tried to act as if Michael is the chosen prince of PC or something, but as far as I am concerned he just isn't that important and he isn't that interesting or necessary. Watching him flip out because he finally pulled his head out of his ass about Carly and Sonny is not a draw for me, I am not going to applaud him for buying a damn clue after so long.

 

I don't care if he shoots Sonny, then he should go away too. Imo he should have figured this all out a lot sooner and watching him "embrace" his gun tooting side is no "hero's act", if anything he's being as much of a coward as the man who raised him.

 

As for Sonny and Carly they should have been exterminated long ago.

[WendyCR72]

As for Sonny and Carly they should have been exterminated long ago.

 

To be fair, it has been said cockroaches can survive Armageddon, so it's easy to see why it's so hard to be rid of these two...

[CPP83]

To be fair, it has been said cockroaches can survive Armageddon, so it's easy to see why it's so hard to be rid of these two...

 

 

 

It'd be so funny if it weren't so true...I'm so sick of them and their stupid kids and all the shit they create due to their godawful parenting which really isn't parenting at all. They wouldn't make decent babysitters for an hour.

[Tiger]

I think there may be a remote possibility of an outside chance that KA is not a completely horrible actor.

She was actually decent the last two shows. Her usually bizarre facial expressions actually work when played in reaction to someone spouting total lunacy as Morgan was Thu and Fri, and then finding Ava in the alley. She does that stuff so much better than snooty know-it-all.

[LeftPhalange]

I always liked Spin so I hope the rumors about him coming back are true.