Tomorrow Today: Media & Behind The Scenes Of LOT

[Starfish35]

And we have a Canary in fishnets. ?

[MarkHB]

I'll show my age and say that the pic of them in the van brings to mind the lyric, "Eleven long-haired Friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus."

[Miss Dee]

Mo Ryan just tweeted to tell people to watch Legends. Word is getting out....

[Starfish35]

I hope so.  This week it was the lowest-rated of the five superhero shows on the CW. ? Not that I think that it’s in any immediate danger, but still.  

[Proteus]

From CW:

“Wet Hot American Bummer” — (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)

MEMORIES FOR A LIFETIME — When the Legends discover that kids at a summer camp have disappeared, Sara (Caity Lotz), Ava (Jes Macallan), Ray (Brandon Routh) and Constantine (Matt Ryan) find themselves as the new camp counselors. At camp, Ava struggles to get along with the kids, but Constantine whips up a potion that helps Sara and Ava bond with the children. Luckily, the team finds clues to the whereabouts of the missing kids, but the battle to save them leaves one member in bad shape. Meanwhile, Rory (Dominic Purcell) and Zari (Tala Ashe) are tasked with watching the fugitive and Rory finds a kindship with their “prisoner.” Maisie Richardson-Sellers also stars. David Geddes directed the episode written by Ray Utarnachitt & Tyron B. Carter (#404).  Original airdate 11/12/2018.

[RandomWatcher]

[BaggythePanther]

I love this challenge. No challenge to Arrow though?

[Starfish35]

Promo for #403 “ Dancing Queen”

[Starfish35]

Final Live+SD ratings for #402 “Witch Hunt” (Source)

Edited October 30, 2018 by Starfish35
Updated with final ratings

[Proteus]

I can't embed tweets but this sounds positive:

https://mobile.twitter.com/k50cullen/status/1057307056955420672

All #LegendsOfTomorrow fans not haters the Season Premiere on October 22nd went from a 0.3 to 0.6 in 18-49 by 89% and 1.00 to 1.76 Million Viewers by 76% in Live +3 that's solid (will update when Live +7 comes out)

Edited October 30, 2018 by Proteus

[Starfish35]

I’m no @tv echo, but here’s some links to some reviews.

A. V. Club:

• In a riotous premiere, the Legends come bearing a unicorn, a Subaru, and Gary's damned nipple
• How Legends Of Tomorrow blends anger with antics is one of life’s great mythteries

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• Legends of Tomorrow Returns as the Magical Mystery Tour of the Arrowverse
• Legends of Tomorrow Was Basically the Fairly OddParents Crossover I Didn't Know I Needed

IGN - DC'S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW SEASON 4 PREMIERE: "THE VIRGIN GARY" REVIEW

IndyWire -  ‘DC’s Legends of Tomorrow’: Why the CW Underdog Is Television’s Most Delightful Series

I hadn’t seen this before, but it was mentioned in the IndyWire review above: 

(removed since it was posted by @Proteus on page 32)

Edited October 30, 2018 by Starfish35

[Sakura12]

I think Legends is a show that people don't watch Iive. 

[Proteus]

@Starfish35 I posted the Dom message a couple pages back when he originally made it. There's a discussion about it a few pages back if you want to check it out.

[Starfish35]

Ah whoops.  Sorry about that.  

I also just found these quotes from Arthur Darvill from the Dallas Fan Days 2018 convention: Source

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“Also, when we signed onto the show — I’m not a big fan of the first season, especially the first half, I thought ‘Aw, this is just a bit too…’ It was very much finding its way," Darvill said. "And it was a bit too serious. Especially for me, I was like ‘Oh god, this is just so dull and serious.’ So the second season for me was so much fun, and they gave me loads of really fun stuff to do. And I think it’s gotten better and better as the show’s gone along. And as they’ve found that they can actually write a comedy superhero program - still with heart and still with real characters and stuff. But I think they’ve really — the writing has really gotten very very good. So I’m really pleased that the show has really found its feet. And it’s quite unique in that universe, and amongst [the larger superhero genre].”

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"I mean, there's characters on Legends that I just think are amazing," Darvill said. "Like, the fact that they got Beebo in. I'm so sad that I never got to work with a big fluffy blue thing. I just think it's the most amazing, hilarious invention."

Edited October 30, 2018 by Starfish35

[Starfish35]

Unrounded preliminary ratings: Source

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Arrow .......................................... 0.371 ... (0.392 ... 0.350)
Legends of Tomorrow ................. 0.331 ... (0.328 ... 0.335)

[Starfish35]

Here’s some more info on CW Live+3 numbers for the week of Oct. 22 (all numbers from Programming Insider):

• The Flash - Live+3: 2.971 million viewers, 1.16 adults 18-49 rating
• Riverdale - Live+3: 2.117 million viewers, 0.79 adults 18-49 rating
• Supernatural - Live+3: 1.997 million viewers, 0.61 adults 18-49 rating
• Supergirl - Live+3: 1.940 million viewers, 0.58 adults 18-49 rating
• Arrow - Live+3: 1.777 million viewers, 0.64 adults 18-49 rating
• Charmed - Live+3: 1.760 million viewers, 0.62 adults 18-49 rating
• Legends of Tomorrow - Live+3: 1.752 million viewers, 0.60 adults 18-49 rating
• Black Lightning - Live+3: 1.668 million viewers, 0.56 adults 18-49 rating
• Legacies - Live+3: 1.636 million viewers, 0.49 adults 18-49 rating
• All American - Live+3: 1.111 million viewers, 0.37 adults 18-49 rating
• Dynasty - Live+3: 0.795 million viewers, 0.26 adults 18-49 rating
• Crazy Ex-Girlfriend - Live+3: 0.559 million viewers, 0.23 adults 18-49 rating

Friday & Sunday Live+3 not yet available. Now updated with all numbers.

Edited November 2, 2018 by Starfish35
Added Friday & Sunday numbers

[Starfish35]

Unrounded final numbers for last week (Link):

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Here were last week's un-rounded FINALS for the CW shows:

....................................... 18-49 ..................... Total viewers
The Flash ...................... 0.699 ..................... 1.875 million
Riverdale ....................... 0.484 ..................... 1.399 million
Arrow ............................. 0.411 ..................... 1.183 million
Supergirl ........................ 0.374 ..................... 1.281 million
Black Lightning .............. 0.371 ..................... 1.179 million
Supernatural .................. 0.362 ..................... 1.389 million
Charmed ....................... 0.338 ..................... 1.134 million
Legends of Tomorrow . 0.317 .................. 0.996 million
Legacies ....................... 0.293 ..................... 1.124 million
All American ................. 0.251 ...................... 0.764 million
Dynasty ........................ 0.175 ...................... 0.562 million
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ....... 0.149 ...................... 0.411 million

Edited October 30, 2018 by Starfish35

[Miss Dee]

So those ratings are good for 3+ days? They almost doubled.

[Proteus]

9 hours ago, Miss Dee said:

So those ratings are good for 3+ days? They almost doubled.

Hopefully it's good. 

Edited October 31, 2018 by Proteus
Don't want to be a downer.

[Starfish35]

Oh this oughta be good. DCLegendsTV has the episode pics for #404 “Wet Hot American Bummer”. (Link)

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MEMORIES FOR A LIFETIME — When the Legends discover that kids at a summer camp have disappeared, Sara (Caity Lotz), Ava (Jes Macallan), Ray (Brandon Routh) and Constantine (Matt Ryan) find themselves as the new camp counselors. At camp, Ava struggles to get along with the kids, but Constantine whips up a potion that helps Sara and Ava bond with the children. Luckily, the team finds clues to the whereabouts of the missing kids, but the battle to save them leaves one member in bad shape. Meanwhile, Rory (Dominic Purcell) and Zari (Tala Ashe) are tasked with watching the fugitive and Rory finds a kindship with their “prisoner.” Maisie Richardson-Sellers also stars. David Geddes directed the episode written by Ray Utarnachitt & Tyron B. Carter (#404). Original airdate 11/12/2018.

 

[Starfish35]

Ok, Constantine fans, what is with the tie? Is it secretly some sort of magical artifact? 

Also, Ava looks absolutely thrilled to be working with Constantine again. :)

Edited October 31, 2018 by Starfish35

[Miss Dee]

They got him in a costume! I mean, he kept the tie, but still....

[Sakura12]

Maybe his head will fall off if he takes off his tie.

[Featherhat]

Ok I'm finding everyone weirdly attractive in their counsellor costumes. ;) Especially Sara with the braids. Ray is presumably in his natural habitat here. Yeah Ava isn't happy to be hanging out with Constantine. And yay Maisie, TA and DP scenes.  

[Sakura12]

The description says Ava doesn't know how to work with kids which makes sense being she never was one. Rather then her being upset to work with Constantine. 

[Featherhat]

To be fair Ava does look like she's over the whole thing, it's just her non group shots are just with him. ;) I hope Sara and Ray have some scenes/dialogue together. The last time we really got that was 201. I guess Z has the more cynical female POV to him most of the time.  

[Lady Calypso]

14 hours ago, Sakura12 said:

Maybe his head will fall off if he takes off his tie.

You just gave me a flashback to my favourite, and also least favourite scary story as a kid. 

So, it doesn't sound like NZ is in that episode. I guess it's possible that he did ask for time off this season. 

[Starfish35]

Here’s Live+7 numbers for the premiere.  The full weekly report won’t be out until next week, but it looks like, at least for that day, the delayed viewing puts it only fractionally behind Arrow. (Source)

Edited November 1, 2018 by Starfish35

[Sakura12]

I guess people see saving Legends to watch later. That's a decent jump in viewers. 

[Proteus]

From CW:

“Tagumo Attacks!!!” — (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, DLV) (HDTV)

SOMETHING’S FISHY — A new fugitive is on the loose in 1951 Tokyo and Sara (Caity Lotz), Zari (Tala Ashe), Rory (Dominic Purcell) and Charlie (Maisie Richardson-Sellers) try to capture it.  As Constantine (Matt Ryan) struggles to recover, Ray (Brandon Routh) knows that magic might be the only thing that can save him but must look outside the team for help.  Meanwhile, Ava (Jes Macallan) joins Nate (Nick Zano) and his family for an unconventional Thanksgiving dinner.   Courtney Ford and Ramona Young also star. Lexi La Roche directed the episode written by Keto Shimizu & Ubah Mohamed wrote the episode (#405).  Original airdate 11/19/2018.
 

[lurker22]

[Proteus]

[Miss Dee]

...so there's got to be a musical episode coming up besides Ep 3. Right??

[lurker22]

I wonder if these (the videos today and the Brandon/Nick/Caity video from before) are all for just one (musical) episode that we don't know about yet. I would think it takes longer for all the cast to record their songs.

[BaggythePanther]

They had Victor Garber for three seasons, and now that he’s gone, they decide to do a musical episode.

[lurker22]

They didn't waste their time with Victor Garber though, as we got to see him sing on the show, twice.

[Starfish35]

TVLine gave Tala Ashe Performer of the Week this week, for her performance in Witch Hunt.

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THE PERFORMER | Tala Ashe

THE SHOW | DC’s Legends of Tomorrow

THE EPISODE | “Witch Hunt” (Oct. 29, 2018)

THE PERFORMANCE | Even as the Arrowverse’s wild child doubles down on crazy — mixing magic with time travel — it still makes room for smart character work, such as when Ashe taps into Zari’s struggle with what she knows about the future and her inability to stop it.

That dilemma was touched on in the season opener, but with “Witch Hunt,” Ashe got to explore it in a different, deeper way. Visiting the Salem Witch Trials, Zari looked on as a woman, Jane, was ripped away from her daughter, to eventually be burned at a stake. Zari hoped to intervene and spare the lass a tragic loss, reminding Sara, “This is exactly what it’s like where I’m from” — a 2042 where A.R.G.U.S. has banned religion and hunts metas. “Tribalism, scapegoating, persecuting someone just because they’re different, while other people stand by and do nothing.”

Refusing to do nothing, Zari invited Jane to escape jail and flee with young Prudence, only to have that gesture rebuffed. “What kind of life is it going to be, where you died and she couldn’t protect you?” she asked the mother, Ashe’s face full of earnestness. “She’ll end up mad at herself. And mad at the world.”

When Prudence enlisted her fair(l)y (evil) godmother to save Mom and instead put her accuser’s feet to the not-so-proverbial fire, Zari counseled the girl to not teach the man so harsh a lesson — even though, the future proves out, the hearts of such people will never change. The way Ashe carried herself throughout the scene made clear it was a personally wounding, but important, truth for Zari to tell.

“People always fear what they don’t understand, and that fear turns them into monsters. But we can’t let it turn us into monsters. We have to be better than them,” she said, alluding to her own experience (and maybe even the world of today).

[Proteus]

Jes posted this for Brandon's birthday but you can see it's a prop cake for Ava's birthday:

[Starfish35]

TVLine has a sneak leak peek for tonight’s episode:

Legends of Tomorrow Sneak Peek: How Does the Time Bureau 'Dare to Defy'?

Edited November 5, 2018 by Starfish35
*facepalm*

[Sakura12]

LoT punk music video.

[Maelstrom]

Love how the cast always seems to be having so much fun on set. And I'm still far from sold on Constantine, but Matt Ryan looks like a lot of fun and a good sport!

ETA - watched the video at the sneak peak link in Starfish35's above post, and don't worry Gary, I appreciated your Clue joke! (Clue FTW, always)

Edited November 5, 2018 by Maelstrom

[Starfish35]

Here’s another sneak peek:

[Starfish35]

Promo for next week’s episode #404 “Wet Hot American Bummer”.

[Starfish35]

Final Live+SD Ratings for last night

Edited November 6, 2018 by Starfish35
Updated with final numbers

[Starfish35]

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Here were the unrounded same-day FINALS for the CW originals last week (Oct. 29-Nov. 4):

...................................... 18-49 rating ........... 2+ in millions
The Flash ........................ 0.669 ...................... 1.751
Supernatural ................... 0.441 ...................... 1.458
Arrow .............................. 0.386 ...................... 1.146
Supergirl ......................... 0.372 ...................... 1.229
Legacies ......................... 0.366 ...................... 1.127
Charmed ........................ 0.326 ....................... 0.959
Legends of Tomorrow . 0.323 ................... 0.843
Black Lightning .............. 0.311 ....................... 0.972
Dynasty .......................... 0.147 ...................... 0.545
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ......... 0.126 ...................... 0.460

(Link)

[Proteus]

That programming site posted delayed viewing numbers for last weeks episode and they seemed good. Some positive news to off set the Tuesday morning ratings reports and negativity around the net regarding LOT.

[Starfish35]

Something that might encourage people: (Link)

[Starfish35]

Live+7 Weekly Ratings: ‘D.C.’s Legends of Tomorrow’ Season Premiere Ranks Third in Adults 18-49 Percentage Gains

For the week of October 22, they also ranked #1 in percentage gains among total viewers.  

CW Live+7 Ratings for the week of October 22:

• The Flash - 1.32, 3.384 million. 
• Riverdale - 0.92, 2.429 million.
• Arrow - 0.74, 2.033 million.
• Legends of Tomorrow - 0.71, 2.031 million. (#401 - The Virgin Gary)
• Charmed - 0.71, 1.991 million.
• Supernatural - 0.69, 2.230 million.
• Black Lightning - 0.67, 1.903 million.
• Supergirl - 0.65, 2.206 million.
• Legacies - 0.56, 1.785 million.
• All American - 0.41*,  1.204 million.
• Dynasty - 0.28, 0.840 million.
• Crazy Ex-Girlfriend - 0.22, 0.561 million. 

*Not on Top 40 report.

What I think is interesting is comparing the Live+SD rankings (here) to the Live+7 rankings.  Out of 12 network shows, Legends went from #8 to #4 in the 18-49 demo, and from #9 to #6 in total viewers.  It will be interesting to see whether this is a trend that will continue in future weeks.

Edited November 7, 2018 by Starfish35

[Proteus]

1 hour ago, Starfish35 said:

Something that might encourage people: (Link)

As of now I don't think the CW is ending Legends this season or announcing next year as the end.

[Starfish35]

I’d like to see them get to 100 episodes at least.  They could do that with a couple more seasons of 16-17 episodes.