S32: Spoilers

[Lamb18]

If it's not Tai's thigh, maybe Joe's head wound gets infected. I think an untreated staph infection in the head could go fatal in a few hours. (I had a staph infection 20 years ago. If this had taken place before antibiotics, my leg would have been amputated.)

[azshadowwalker]

I could see them letting Joe leave with less fanfare than Tai. Neither of them are big gamers, but production loves Tai.

[Big Mother]

Yikes, i did a quick calculation of who was missing when Jeff and the doctor showed up at the beach to deliver some bad news. My heart sank.

just surprised it wasnt hyped up a lot more at the end of last week's episode.

I could see them letting Joe leave with less fanfare than Tai. Neither of them are big gamers, but production loves Tai.

but joe is there when the doctor and jeff show up to deliver the bad news.

[LanceM]

Well there is this from Dr. Peter.

 

http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1116903/interview-survivor-season-32-peter-baggenstos

 

SK: This season has been labeled as the most brutal ever. Were there any injuries we didn't get to see?

PB: For myself, when I got voted off, I flew to Minnesota a few days later for surgery. I had infections down in my hand. Liz had to get surgery, too. Keep a tally of how many Brain members ended up in the hospital after the game. There's something on that beach. There's just an infection that was nailing us. Out there, everyone had cuts, but nothing like the Brains people.

 

 

Well so far we are 2 for 2. Both Liz and Peter ended up in the hospital. 

[Big Mother]

And with Joe's infected finger, I won't count him out either.

[cooksdelight]

Now I'm dying to know what it was on the beach that was infecting everyone. And why didn't production know about it and move them to another location. Another example of how poorly thought-out this season has been, at least for me personally.

[anthonyd46]

Was brains beach the same as angkor?

[LadyChatts]

I believe it was brawn that was on the old angkor beach, beauty was bayon, and brains was Ta'Keo.

[Big Mother]

Stephen Fishbach mentioned recently that production cautiond them to be very careful with cuts and scrapes BC staph was rampant in that beach. I guess they learned a lot of lessons in this season on preventing similar things for Second chance. Jeff really hated shooting this season and said it was very hard on the crew too, many I'd them were hospitalized afterwards too.

[SVNBob]

You know, if they figured out, or at least suspected, that it's Brain beach that's causing a lot of health problems, that would explain why we see the Blue tribe getting shipped in for the merge, to the surprise of the Yellow.  Get them all off that unhygienic beach and into a safer location.

 

Did the same move happen in Second Chances?  It would fit the pattern.

[LadyChatts]

You know, if they figured out, or at least suspected, that it's Brain beach that's causing a lot of health problems, that would explain why we see the Blue tribe getting shipped in for the merge, to the surprise of the Yellow.  Get them all off that unhygienic beach and into a safer location.

 

Did the same move happen in Second Chances?  It would fit the pattern.

 

I believe it did (Ta'Keo merging to the Bayon beach).

 

This season is like night and day compared to how Second Changes played out.

[thehepburn]

The point is probably moot but PG, who started s31 on the takeo/brains beach showed pix of her staph when she returned from the game.

[Big Mother]

The point is not moot at all, it actually adds a lot!

[cherrypj]

It would probably help to not take dumps in the water.

[nutty1]

Well there is this from Dr. Peter.

 

http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1116903/interview-survivor-season-32-peter-baggenstos

 

SK: This season has been labeled as the most brutal ever. Were there any injuries we didn't get to see?

PB: For myself, when I got voted off, I flew to Minnesota a few days later for surgery. I had infections down in my hand. Liz had to get surgery, too. Keep a tally of how many Brain members ended up in the hospital after the game. There's something on that beach. There's just an infection that was nailing us. Out there, everyone had cuts, but nothing like the Brains people.

 

 

Well so far we are 2 for 2. Both Liz and Peter ended up in the hospital. 

 

I think he makes it clear Aubry doesn't win. ("From this episode up she's gonna go deep because she's not leaving a big impact. Survivor, you don't win votes by being tofu.")

He insinuated he knows what happens in the game.  ("in my opinion from what I know — well I know everything [from the season]")

Do you think Nick and/or Cydney make it far, or do you think they are just his favorite players? ("SK: Who are you rooting for to win the game at this point?   PB: Nick or Cydney.")

[marys1000]

They have access to medical type supplies right?  They can't provide Neosporin?

[Big Mother]

When its staph, neosporin won't help. They need prescription bactroban, and if that doesn't work, oral antibiotics, and if that doesn't work, iv antibiotics.... In that kind of dirty , wet environment, open wounds like that accelerate to the point of needing iv really fast,

[marys1000]

Not even to prevent a staph infection?  Right after the scratch? Not questioning so much  I really don't know.  Off to google staph.

So why not provide bactroban?

[Big Mother]

Not even to prevent a staph infection?  Right after the scratch? Not questioning so much  I really don't know.  Off to google staph.

So why not provide bactroban?

You need a doctor's prescription and a pharmacy... I don't think they give prescription drugs on Survivor. if someone has flu or strep or whatever, they're at the mercy of their own strength... they don't even provide motrin or tylenol... people have been pulled / medavac'ed often for not feeling well.

I think they do provide topical ointments like bacitracin for cuts. The problem is, most of the cast are afraid to call for medical bc theyre afraid of being medavac'ed.

 

You know, all of this is very interesting. I might call Rob on his Patroncast on tuesday and ask him about it . Or, I'll post the question for him to ask this week's medavac (if there is one) the mornign after.

[LanceM]

New video from CBS.

 

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/survivor/video

 

Interesting that Michele says she was in a good spot at Chan Loh which is kind of the opposite of what we have bee shown in the previous episode.  Though given the fact that Jason said they were ready to blindside Neal may be she wasn't wrong at all.

Edited March 29, 2016 by LanceM

[anthonyd46]

I believe it was brawn that was on the old angkor beach, beauty was bayon, and brains was Ta'Keo.

Well that makes sense as Brawn lost the most challenges just like Angkor. 

[marys1000]

You need a doctor's prescription and a pharmacy... I don't think they give prescription drugs on Survivor. if someone has flu or strep or whatever, they're at the mercy of their own strength... they don't even provide motrin or tylenol... people have been pulled / medavac'ed often for not feeling well.

I think they do provide topical ointments like bacitracin for cuts. The problem is, most of the cast are afraid to call for medical bc theyre afraid of being medavac'ed.

 

You know, all of this is very interesting. I might call Rob on his Patroncast on tuesday and ask him about it . Or, I'll post the question for him to ask this week's medavac (if there is one) the mornign after.

I was under the impression they have access to a box of stuff (this has come up with the condom question) that has some basic stuff in it like sunscreen.  (Why Jason didn't use any I don't know).  Now that I think of it though we don't see anyone sporting bandaids.  So they give them a box but we don't know exactly whats in it.  I do know from reddit that they also get a little booklet with some basic camping survival stuff in like native plants to eat or stay away from - but the cameraman who was answering questions said he hardly ever saw anyone read it (multi season employee) so....who knows.

[thehepburn]

Well, that Neal evac came out of nowhere except to the very few eagle-eyes who thought it could be Neal from the press photos.

 

At least this debunked that stupid reddit Final 5 rumor. Buh bye, Neal!

[LanceM]

As to why Neal didn't give Aubry the idol, he tweeted this:

 

@ldstarr18 when somebody tells you they'd slit your throat the night before you're less likely to give her the family jewels

[Big Mother]

I did NOT see that coming. the preseason preview was a total misdirect. Tai's leg is HEALING, and Dr. Rupert's words "Can destroy tissue in a matter of hours" was on Neal's booboo on his knee.

 

I'm really sad. Bye bye Three TWins, I hardly knew ye.

[170980]

Ok so this is more speculation but I feel it deserves to be pointed out.  So in the merge episode of Cambodia, Savage received the most confessionals, 11 to be exact, and throughout the season received a fairly negative edit and was portrayed as cocky and arrogant.  The next episode he was EPICALLY blindsided.  Like Savage, Nick has been portrayed as very cocky and arrogant.  Like savage, Nick received the most confessionals in the merge episode, with 11 (ALSO like Savage).  The title of the next episode is something along the lines of the jocks vs the pretty people, implying the brains are more swing votes.  If brains side with beauty (I.E. Nick, Michele, and Julia so NOT Tai) maybe Nick is also epically blindsided by a super-idol maybe?  Just a thought...

[ForeverAlone]

I can only hope your speculation is true. :)

[anthonyd46]

Ok so this is more speculation but I feel it deserves to be pointed out.  So in the merge episode of Cambodia, Savage received the most confessionals, 11 to be exact, and throughout the season received a fairly negative edit and was portrayed as cocky and arrogant.  The next episode he was EPICALLY blindsided.  Like Savage, Nick has been portrayed as very cocky and arrogant.  Like savage, Nick received the most confessionals in the merge episode, with 11 (ALSO like Savage).  The title of the next episode is something along the lines of the jocks vs the pretty people, implying the brains are more swing votes.  If brains side with beauty (I.E. Nick, Michele, and Julia so NOT Tai) maybe Nick is also epically blindsided by a super-idol maybe?  Just a thought...

Savage also had loads of confessionals and airtime the whole game though Nick has had next to nothing

[azshadowwalker]

I don't, because it keeps Kyle and Scot around. I have far fewer problems with Nick.

[LanceM]

Well this is interesting. Apparently in the Season 31 Ponderosa videos the intro contains what appears to be players from this season.  Many are speculating that these people in the intro make up the jury from this season.  The speculation now is that the F3 includes Michele, Aubry and Cydney, which truth be told, wouldn't surprise me the way this season is playing out.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/survivorspoilers/comments/4co04p/s32_spoiler_of_someone_who_is_on_the_jury_from/

Edited March 31, 2016 by LanceM

[LadyChatts]

I can live with that final 3.

[azshadowwalker]

I am beginning to wonder if Nick isn’t the one in final five instead of Neal. We see him and Michele having a bond. They are both coming to the fore in the edit. Is there a reason he couldn't be the mysterious Reddit poster who got to the end, but didn't think he won, instead of Kyle? Was that belief based upon something beyond the supposed final five that included Neal instead of him? I am thinking they are setting up Kyle and Scot for a fall with the big talk and arrogance.

[LadyChatts]

I am beginning to wonder if Nick isn’t the one in final five instead of Neal. We see him and Michele having a bond. They are both coming to the fore in the edit. Is there a reason he couldn't be the mysterious Reddit poster who got to the end, but didn't think he won, instead of Kyle? Was that belief based upon something beyond the supposed final five that included Neal instead of him? I am thinking they are setting up Kyle and Scot for a fall with the big talk and arrogance.

 

The reddit post implied it was a brawn member that wrote it, because they mentioned Jeff being unhappy with who they chose to vote off first (Darnell).  That said, I could see it being Nick instead of Neal in the final 5.  Only because what could be better than a final 5 including Jason and Scot, than a final 5 including Scot, Jason, and Nick.  I don't really think that might be too far off, but I hope it's wrong.  I at least hope bounty and Nick get bounced long before then.  

 

A final 3 of Cydney/Michele/Aubry might also fit in with the alleged bullying that takes place between Julia and Cydney, and Julia going off on the final 3.  She might have been blindsided late game and gone off on the girls for betraying her.  The only thing that could redeem this season even a sliver would be a girl's alliance, but I'm skeptical it'll happen.

 

If only Caleb hadn't been medevaced, and if only the swap hadn't screwed over Anna.  And really, how did they in just a few short weeks manage to avoid the medical catastrophes for second chances that happened during this season?  This season finished filming in May of last year, and Second Chances started filming at the end of May.  I'm honestly shocked the worst thing we had happening during second chances was Joe fainting. 

[azshadowwalker]

Thanks, I remember that now. I have a hard time going back in threads on my tablet, so I couldn't look it up.

[Wings]

The reddit post implied it was a brawn member that wrote it, because they mentioned Jeff being unhappy with who they chose to vote off first (Darnell).  That said, I could see it being Nick instead of Neal in the final 5.  Only because what could be better than a final 5 including Jason and Scot, than a final 5 including Scot, Jason, and Nick.  I don't really think that might be too far off, but I hope it's wrong.  I at least hope bounty and Nick get bounced long before then.  

 

A final 3 of Cydney/Michele/Aubry might also fit in with the alleged bullying that takes place between Julia and Cydney, and Julia going off on the final 3.  She might have been blindsided late game and gone off on the girls for betraying her.  The only thing that could redeem this season even a sliver would be a girl's alliance, but I'm skeptical it'll happen.

 

If only Caleb hadn't been medevaced, and if only the swap hadn't screwed over Anna.  And really, how did they in just a few short weeks manage to avoid the medical catastrophes for second chances that happened during this season?  This season finished filming in May of last year, and Second Chances started filming at the end of May.  I'm honestly shocked the worst thing we had happening during second chances was Joe fainting. 

 

 

Is there a link to this reddit post or is it copied here?  I looked and couldn't find it.  

 

I have warmed a little to Nick, since last night, so I am okay with him being in F5.  Michelle leaves me cold though that could change, I suppose.  Is there any reason to doubt that there are 2 more medical evacuations?   

Edited March 31, 2016 by wings707

[nutty1]

I am away and didn't watch last night but I read this....

Missyae (Jim Early) says the final 3 is Tai, Aubrey and Michele. He has been spot on some years, not so much others.

He also said Caleb is going to be on Season 34. Season 33 will start filming on a few weeks. Though they may change from Fiji to somewhere else because of weather.

[Big Mother]

The only reason I find it hard to believe, is that I find it nigh impossible that Tai would not win this season. Unless he goes MAJORLY bad at some point. Why would the jury vote for aubry or michele over Tai???

[nutty1]

Is there anything that says Tai definitely doesn't win?

[cooksdelight]

d over Anna. And really, how did they in just a few short weeks manage to avoid the medical catastrophes for second chances that happened during this season? This season finished filming in May of last year, and Second Chances started filming at the end of May. I'm honestly shocked the worst thing we had happening during second chances was Joe fainting.

I think they filmed Second Chance on different, cleaner beaches. I believe once they isolated where the staph/mrsa was coming from they didn't go there.

Imagine being part of this group, mingling at Ponderosa within arm's length of people you've watched....and you can't talk to them.

[LadyChatts]

Jeff's teaser for next week:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/31/survivor-jeff-probst-kaoh-rong-medical-evacuation

Okay, since we had no Tribal Council, we’re still not 100 percent sure exactly where things stand in this newly merged tribe, so tease us up for next week’s episode.

Sometimes one event can change everything and Neal’s evacuation is definitely a turning point. You’re going to see moves start to be made from here on out. And a great immunity challenge!

 

 

[piequinn35]

That was really not a teaser.

Everybody has started to strategize, in a weird way=Deb, in a pretty way lol=Nick, in a cocky way=2 bully idiots

[Big Mother]

Is there anything that says Tai definitely doesn't win?

Jeff and CBS would hype the hell out of this season if Tai wins. The fact that he's so down on the season and it wasn't hyped through the roof leads everyone to believe one of the women wins, probably Michele. that's why I think Tai is not in the finals. Maybe he's in the final 3 but it's a final 2!? that would make sense.

[Special K]

I agree with Big Mother.  Jeff would LOVE and totally hype a Tai win.

[marys1000]

Jeff's teaser for next week:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/31/survivor-jeff-probst-kaoh-rong-medical-evacuation

Sometimes one event can change everything and Neal’s evacuation is definitely a turning point. You’re going to see moves start to be made from here on out. And a great immunity challenge!

 

So is this why antibiotics for Aubry but not for Neal?

[ForeverAlone]

Neal had a much more serious infection that could not be safely managed with antibiotics, while Aubry's infection is at a point that can be managed with antibiotics. They are not the same situation. 

[Nashville]

Savage also had loads of confessionals and airtime the whole game though Nick has had next to nothing

I had the general impression that while Nick was virtually ignored the first 3-4 episodes, his TH count had greatly increased since the first tribal mix. Haven't counted minutes or anything, though, so I could be totally wrong - and I don't care about the NickBot enough to go back and count.

[cooksdelight]

My speculation on where the second chance people camped was wrong. They were on the same beaches. Which makes NO sense. Either they were all super careful not to cut themselves, having played before, or someone disinfected the hell out of the beach before they got there.

Can you do that? Spray for bad bugs or whatever?

[LadyChatts]

Brains beach was Ta'Keo, and Peih-Gee did walk away with a staph infection.  I know some of the other second chancers mentioned that they had injuries and especially illnesses that some were still recovering from months later, but obviously nothing to the extent this cast had.  Maybe they greatly increased any medical attention to the second chancers that they might have ignored during this season?  Also, could the climate have had anything to do with it?  This group got the heat, second chance got the rain.

[ForeverAlone]

I agree that the Second Chances cast likely benefited from a combination of increased medical vigilance from production, and a different climate. I imagine (hope) that production was highly alarmed at the significant number of injuries and medevacs (I think the most since Micronesia), and took steps to mitigate it. Plus a season with returning favorites falling down from infections and heat stroke probably would have provoked an even larger backlash than what we are seeing this season, especially since they were filming in the exact same location, and it was only a couple months later. 

Edited March 31, 2016 by ForeverAlone

[Big Mother]

Brains beach was Ta'Keo, and Peih-Gee did walk away with a staph infection.  I know some of the other second chancers mentioned that they had injuries and especially illnesses that some were still recovering from months later, but obviously nothing to the extent this cast had.  Maybe they greatly increased any medical attention to the second chancers that they might have ignored during this season?  Also, could the climate have had anything to do with it?  This group got the heat, second chance got the rain.

 

Stephen Fishbach said on last night's KnowItalls that the medical team on 2nd Chance urged them to show every cut to medical so it could be treated immediately.