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catlover79
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A's fans were still able to make their fury at the Astros known when the teams played in Oakland last night. They may not be physically allowed in the stadium, so they did the next best thing:

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I read that Houck said he was "bummed" that he would missing a start. Hmmm, if only there was something he could have done to make sure he could play in every park. 

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baldryanr

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11 hours ago, twoods said:

I wonder if that’s why Shohei always has his interpreter around him. He clearly understands most of what is said around him and his English is pretty good, but with how many endorsements and dollar signs attached to his image he can’t afford something to be screwed up in translation or context.

Probably, but when you're viewed as the best (or at least one of the best) players then people are going to cut you a lot more slack.  If he were to throw a tantrum then a lot of fans would be talking about how impressed they are by his passion.  But if a marginal player does it?  What a cancer, dump the bum.

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NUguy514

NUguy514

29 minutes ago, morriss said:

So Josh Gibson now holds the MLB record for highest batting average at .372.   How many MLB games did he play?  That would be ZERO.   MLB records should be reserved for individuals who actually played in MLB.   This sounds like something Manfred would think up to continue his destruction of baseball.

Ty Cobb, is that you?

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Jane Tuesday

Jane Tuesday

This isn't the first time MLB has pulled in records from a long-gone league. From thehill.com...

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A special committee on baseball records decided in 1969 to recognize six major leagues dating back to 1876: the National (which launched in 1876), the American (1901), the American Association (1882-1891), Union Association (1884), Players’ League (1890) and Federal League (1914-1915).

58 minutes ago, NUguy514 said:

Ty Cobb, is that you?

Cobb probably would have had no issue with this. Much of what is believed about him - spread far and wide in the Burns documentary - is suspect at best. 

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mojoween

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I just read Tony Posnanski’s “Why We Love Baseball” (EXCELLENT book, everyone should read it) and he mentioned that a lot of what was previously said about Ty Cobb has come under scrutiny.  And Ty Cobb’s family was very gracious this week.  Doesn’t mean there isn’t some truth there, but maybe not *quite* as bad as we thought.

And I want to be friends with Josh Gibson’s great-grandson.

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Mittengirl

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I don’t think bring in Negro League stats should be a problem.  I mean we are comparing thousands of players, most of whom never directly competed against each other.  Babe Ruth might have been a .200 hitter had his contemporaries been Bob Gibson or Nolan Ryan or Justin Verlander.   Ty Cobb and Christy Mathewson never played night games.  Pre-1950 (at least), most players couldn’t train year ‘round because they had to work actual jobs during the off-season.  Is it fair to compare stats from 154 game seasons with current longer seasons?  The advances in equipment, playing surfaces, training facilities & methods, medical treatment, etc., make any comparison overs decades, let alone a century+, questionable.

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ProudMary

ProudMary

1 hour ago, Mittengirl said:

I don’t think bring in Negro League stats should be a problem.  I mean we are comparing thousands of players, most of whom never directly competed against each other.  Babe Ruth might have been a .200 hitter had his contemporaries been Bob Gibson or Nolan Ryan or Justin Verlander.   Ty Cobb and Christy Mathewson never played night games.  Pre-1950 (at least), most players couldn’t train year ‘round because they had to work actual jobs during the off-season.  Is it fair to compare stats from 154 game seasons with current longer seasons?  The advances in equipment, playing surfaces, training facilities & methods, medical treatment, etc., make any comparison overs decades, let alone a century+, questionable.

I completely agree with all that you've said here, but I'd just like to add something to the part I put in bold letters. Babe Ruth might have been a lesser hitter if he would have had to face his actual contemporary pitchers of color like Satchel Paige or Martín Dihigo! You're right though, that there's no way to accurately compare across different eras.

The time period of professional baseball where players of color were segregated from white players taints the entire sport irrevocably. Adding the statistics of the Negro Leagues to MLB statistics is one of the few measures available that can lessen the stench just a trifle. It's a no brainer.

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Black Knight

Black Knight

11 hours ago, baldryanr said:

So you're telling me today's pitchers aren't a bunch of wimps because Cy Young threw 749 complete games in his career while the entire league only threw 35 last year?

If Cy Young were playing today, it's extremely unlikely he'd be throwing complete games. He benefited from an era in which hitters were far less prepared, for one thing. It's just much tougher to get through the order multiple times without giving up more runs, and a team's goal is to win games, not to get their starting pitchers complete games for pitchers' bragging rights. Pitchers don't throw complete games anymore not because they're wimps, but because it usually doesn't maximize win probability.

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Harry24

Harry24

20 hours ago, mojoween said:

I LOVE Aaron Judge.  Love love love him.  I have two Judge jerseys and none for anyone else.

And yet.

Yet.

When I read this tweet, the first person I thought of was Derek Jeter.

I totally adore Judge* and never warmed to Jeter as a person at all (even though he was undoubtedly a great player), but even I do a mental double take when they call Judge The Captain.

*Judge is probably my third favorite baseball player after Eddie Murray (forever Number One) and Mariano Rivera, but he’s definitely the most exciting player I’ve rooted for.  I also think he seems like a lovely, genuine guy.

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ProudMary

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1 hour ago, mojoween said:

Well fuck.  

Well said.

At the beginning of the game, I noticed Teoscar Hernandez in the Dodgers lineup. I'd lost track of what team he was on but he's always been a Yankee killer. In my mind I was thinking, I'm not as concerned about Ohtani, Betts and Freeman; they've got to get Teoscar out. Sigh.

I certainly didn't like the way it ended, but it was a pretty incredible game.

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Salacious Kitty

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50 minutes ago, mojoween said:

The “Let’s Go Dodgers” chants that were not shot down with a quickness last night were one thing.  But to have a police escort for a bunch of Dodgers fans marching through THE BRONX?  That shit should not happen.

Well, to be fair this is the most animated I've seen Skankee Stadium all season. They're usually so blasé, better than you. Nice to see they actually care.  Although needing a police escort is a bridge too far. 

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twoods

twoods

21 hours ago, ProudMary said:

Well said.

At the beginning of the game, I noticed Teoscar Hernandez in the Dodgers lineup. I'd lost track of what team he was on but he's always been a Yankee killer. In my mind I was thinking, I'm not as concerned about Ohtani, Betts and Freeman; they've got to get Teoscar out. Sigh.

WOW, you weren’t kidding. What a series so far for him.

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DXD526

DXD526

Nice to see the Mets salvage a split across the pond.

I can say, without reservation, after watching the two London games, that I hope never to see the Phillie Phanatic again. It got WAY TOO MUCH camera time, and maybe it's the Mets fan in me being cranky, but the whole act is just not funny. The announcers sure didn't agree with me, as they laughed like a bunch of meth addled hyenas the whole time.

No sign of Mr. Met. He mustn't have made the trip...

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ebk57

ebk57

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I think this is the first time I've "watched" Gameday on the MLB website and I see they have a drawing of the field with the positions in little rectangles and a small white dot being "thrown" around by the "rectangular" players with each play.  And at the end of the inning, the little rectangles "run" off the field.  It's hilarious.  

 

ETA:  It's the first time I've watched this season, which is why I noticed the new stuff.  It's labeled "beta" so maybe they're just testing it out.  Whatever they decide, it amused me no end. 

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I've either clarified this, or made it worse...
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smittykins

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Gerrit Cole will be pitching in Rochester tomorrow. And I’m not able to go.

*sigh*
 

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/sports/local-sports/gerrit-cole-is-coming-to-rochester/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0m8YaljLgCfsUT8vYMLYUTe8_cRIXiu9EES3d4LcmPq-K6rmhcQffAM90_aem_Afb4IClSC2z-4mTdwCx-sL6LqmEhXHIBm0wGSgoLjZxB-lZsVpfnk1hifpDGbnCtNfd9-8iY3jtPwEDnNu-9QoAT

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