S05.E17: Amster-Damn Slap

[Tara Ariano]

An Amsterdam trip continues with tensions still running high. Here, the ladies split into two groups to explore the area; Eileen confronts Lisa Rinna; and unresolved issues come to a head at a dinner on a riverboat, climaxing with a slap.

[PreposterousISTA]

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[BlackMamba]

Thanks STA for sharing the gifs!  Kyle gives the best faces when she's in shocked or annoyed.  And what is DrunkOtis losing her shit over now.

[SwordQueen]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I guess I'll have to watch next week*, because I want to know what Brandi is enthusiastically typing on her air typewriter.  Can't say I'm surprised that she hunts and pecks. 

 

*OMG, it's tomorrow night, not next week.  I better start drinking now. 

Edited March 10, 2015 by SwordQueen

[Trooper York]

Wait a minute! I thought she hunts down peckers?

[SwordQueen]

No wonder she has to hide herself in a bush to trap them.  Those frenzied hand gestures of hers would scare any pecker away.

[film noire]

No wonder she has to hide herself in a bush to trap them.  Those frenzied hand gestures of hers would scare any pecker away.

 

no wood on that pecker.

Edited March 10, 2015 by film noire

[SwordQueen]

no wood on that pecker.

 

What pecker could get wood after finding bumps on their log?  Talk about a fly in the ointment. 

[Satchels of gold]

All I can see is frenetic hand motions with a big "fuck you" in the middle.

[goofygirl]

Drinking game alert:  Are we gonna hoist the glass whenever Brandi says "Homewrecker" or when Kim says "Sobriety"??  I already have a brand new box of wine for tonight.  Now, I may have to call the paramedics if it gets too wacky, but what the hey.

[BlackMamba]

Brandi vs Eileen http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/episode-517/videos?clip=2851520

 

Once again Yolanda gets up when the "angry" drunk allegations come up.

Edited March 10, 2015 by BlackMamba

[becauseIsaidso]

Watching the reruns today I had been trying, as nothing more than a time-passing exercise, to decide who was the worst fucking bitch cunt - brandi or kim.....silly me....it's a tie  how could I not have guessed that already?

 

What a total waste of space they both are!

[Giselle]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bravo's trainers are good  I cant even see the string they have Brandy playing with. Nor do I see the trainer off to the side with her treat if she performs well, it's a fifth of something and a pill hidden in a ball of cheese.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Giselle

[zoeysmom]

Brandi vs Eileen http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/episode-517/videos?clip=2851520

 

Once again Yolanda gets up when the "angry" drunk allegations come up.

It still doesn't register with Brandi-she does not have the sense of humor she thinks she does. How incredibly sanctimonious of Kim, the angry, drunken, higher than kite, to claim these women can't take a joke.  Half the fu*&ng season has been about how she can't deal with people talking about her sobriety or lack thereof.  Brandi does not know how to give an example.  She did that just to hurt the others under the guise of an example.  Her talking heads confirm it.

[BlackMamba]

It still doesn't register with Brandi-she does not have the sense of humor she thinks she does. How incredibly sanctimonious of Kim, the angry, drunken, higher than kite, to claim these women can't take a joke.  Half the fu*&ng season has been about how she can't deal with people talking about her sobriety or lack thereof.  Brandi does not know how to give an example.  She did that just to hurt the others under the guise of an example.  Her talking heads confirm it.

That's the brainwashing!  Brandi can call Kim a "pill popper" and it's viewed as a joke to Kim.  But let Kyle or Lisa R say that aloud she will be ready to go postal on everyone like last episode!  Kim doesn't want to see the truth.  I'm done with her.

 

Too bad for Brandi, that Eileen has owned her infidelity early in her TH this season.  So Brandi is not being clever in this trying to put out there Eileen is a "homewrecker."

[becauseIsaidso]

And I really have to admit that in watching the preview for the 'slap' episode, I had to give Yolanda (whom I've never really warmed up to) major props for just getting up and walking away - no rants, no raves, no buying into the brandi/kim schtick of slamming all the other women while claiming it was 'only joking', which is the usual excuse given by lowlifes who are trying to avoid blame. I am seriously hoping that it is ALL the other women (or at least Eileen, LisaR and LisaV) who walk away and leave brandi/kim flapping their skanky gums in the breeze.

[BlackMamba]

And I really have to admit that in watching the preview for the 'slap' episode, I had to give Yolanda (whom I've never really warmed up to) major props for just getting up and walking away.

 

I wish I could I give Yolanda props so easily but shes expressed a few times this season she doesn't like how Brandi drinks.  Her getting up only makes her guilt by association but Brandi is too busy yapping she doesn't see that.

[WireWrap]

And I really have to admit that in watching the preview for the 'slap' episode, I had to give Yolanda (whom I've never really warmed up to) major props for just getting up and walking away - no rants, no raves, no buying into the brandi/kim schtick of slamming all the other women while claiming it was 'only joking', which is the usual excuse given by lowlifes who are trying to avoid blame. I am seriously hoping that it is ALL the other women (or at least Eileen, LisaR and LisaV) who walk away and leave brandi/kim flapping their skanky gums in the breeze.

IMO, just mine, Yolanda should have stopped Brandi before she walked away. Why was it necessary for Brandi to rehash this all over again? I am curious to see what starts this BS again and if LisaR reveals what Brandi told her about Kim this time.

[blueeyed]

You know if Brandi was really trying to be "funny" regarding Eileen, she could have brought up rumor about Eileen being born a man.  Brandi doesn't like Eileen and was trying to be mean, home wreaker never came up this season.

Edited March 10, 2015 by blueeyed

[becauseIsaidso]

 

IMO, just mine, Yolanda should have stopped Brandi before she walked away.

I agree, to a greater extent, with you.

 

But, I just had to hope beyond hope that Yolanda simply and finally realized that neither kim nor brandi is worth the bother of any intended helpfulness Yolanda (or ANY one else for that matter) may have offered.

 

Nor do I think it would have done any good, as I do not believe that at this point,  brandi will accept any advice from anyone unless it is accompanied by a guaranteed funds check in the 6 figure range.

 

There comes a time - as I have learned quite recently and painfully - that enough is enough, for my own sake if no other, and the time has come to cut the garbage loose to fend for itself.

[SwordQueen]

I agree, to a greater extent, with you.

 

But, I just had to hope beyond hope that Yolanda simply and finally realized that neither kim nor brandi is worth the bother of any intended helpfulness Yolanda (or ANY one else for that matter) may have offered.

 

Nor do I think it would have done any good, as I do not believe that at this point,  brandi will accept any advice from anyone unless it is accompanied by a guaranteed funds check in the 6 figure range.

 

There comes a time - as I have learned quite recently and painfully - that enough is enough, for my own sake if no other, and the time has come to cut the garbage loose to fend for itself.

 

I agree.  I'm beyond tired of the HW being held responsible for each other's craptastic behavior.  These women are not a bunch of 20 year olds cat fighting in the parking lot of a club.  The whole "having someone's back", "holding someone back" thing is just sad at this point, imo.  I haven't seen the previews or First Look but if Yolanda gets up and walk away because she's as sick of this bullshit as I am, I'll give her props for that (even though I'm still side-eying her for her horrible advice to Kyle).

[zoeysmom]

Sometimes Yolanda makes me laugh.  Sitting at the big table eating all by herself.  Yolanda tries too hard to be this forgiving, accepting person but her biggest issue is she really doesn't listen to how they others feelings are affected by some of the words and deeds of others.  Yolanda made the biggest deal over Lisa being a Hollywood friend last year.  What I see is Yolanda is the Hollywood friend.  She has been to way too few events this year and it isn't Lyme's Disease.  It is visiting her children or go overseas with her husband.  I don't think Yolanda is a particularly good girlfriend -travel host maybe.  What she did at the table was totally ignore how Eileen was feeling. 

[SwordQueen]

Sometimes Yolanda makes me laugh.  Sitting at the big table eating all by herself.  Yolanda tries too hard to be this forgiving, accepting person but her biggest issue is she really doesn't listen to how they others feelings are affected by some of the words and deeds of others.  Yolanda made the biggest deal over Lisa being a Hollywood friend last year.  What I see is Yolanda is the Hollywood friend.  She has been to way too few events this year and it isn't Lyme's Disease.  It is visiting her children or go overseas with her husband.  I don't think Yolanda is a particularly good girlfriend -travel host maybe.  What she did at the table was totally ignore how Eileen was feeling. 

 

I agree.  She doesn't seem particularly adept at hearing and relating to other women without trying to boss them around.  Perceptivity and the ability to empathize are traits that many, if not most, of the HW lack, across all cities.  Maybe that's what makes them perfect for reality TV.  I wonder, with Yo, if it's also due to cultural differences. 

[WireWrap]

Sometimes Yolanda makes me laugh.  Sitting at the big table eating all by herself.  Yolanda tries too hard to be this forgiving, accepting person but her biggest issue is she really doesn't listen to how they others feelings are affected by some of the words and deeds of others.  Yolanda made the biggest deal over Lisa being a Hollywood friend last year.  What I see is Yolanda is the Hollywood friend.  She has been to way too few events this year and it isn't Lyme's Disease.  It is visiting her children or go overseas with her husband.  I don't think Yolanda is a particularly good girlfriend -travel host maybe.  What she did at the table was totally ignore how Eileen was feeling. 

I question if Yolanda even thinks beyond her own mind/feelings. Here sits Eileen, who has done nothing to her, getting called a "home wrecker" by her, Yolanda's, BF Brandi and instead of comforting the one attacked or even stopping her BF from ruining the evening, she just ups and walks away. Then her TH comment was aimed at ALL the women, not the 1 that started it.

[WireWrap]

What is Eileens hand motion doing at the end of the eye roll from Kyle? Looks like the "cut" motion Brandi did at the poker party? ??? ?? ?

It almost looks like Eileen is tapping Kyle on the shoulder or brushing something off her.

[AnnA]

Here we go again.....

Eileen and Kyle can't let it go. I'm not saying that they should but they're on a dinner boat in public. Considering what happened the last time they met in a restaurant as a group, this may not be the the right time and place to have this discussion.

[venusnv80]

I loathe Brandi. I need her gone after this season and you know what, her look when Kyle and Kim hugged was lethal. She's pitiful. 

[Leroux]

Here we go again.....

Eileen and Kyle can't let it go. I'm not saying that they should but they're on a dinner boat in public. Considering what happened the last time they met in a restaurant as a group, this may not be the the right time and place to have this discussion.

I disagree

The incident two night before was horrific as Eileen put it, it probably was just one of many nights for drunk Brandi and addict Kim but for Eileen is was an absolutely horrible experience and she can't just pretend that it never happened and act like everything is normal.

Brandi and Kim act like assholes, do not give any apology, act like the apologies are owed to her and everyone else is supposed to pretend just for the sake of appeasing these two loons?

Fuck that!

Brandi is a mean drunk, she is lying when she said that Eileen is the first one to ever mention it because she herself has said that after two drink she becomes an asshole.

Kim, nobody put her sobriety at risk or even questioned it until she showed up stoned and high as a kite at Eileen's house, nor Eileen or LisaR put that pill (not prescribed to her) in her mouth and yet she can't muster the slightest apology

These two are on a level of denial that is not even healthy

[venusnv80]

It would have taken me until next season to find something nice to see to Brandy. I like her hair...not sure if its all her's though. 

Edited March 11, 2015 by venusnv80

[FlyingEgret]

Have to say - Kyle looked great in that red dress - and taller than usual...

[Higgins]

I thought Kyle looked terrible. The worst I've ever seen her look and I think she is beautiful.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Higgins

[dizzyd]

Such a beautiful boat ride wasted with BS.  Why can't the RH shows be about the lifestyle instead of all this ridiculous cattiness?  I would have liked to see what these rich women bought in Amsterdam (besides sex toys) and see the sights from the canal.  At least Eileen took us to see some art and architecture.  I don't make time in my real life to associate with childish bitchy fools, why would I want to see the same crap week after week on tv. And that whole positive make up game was a bunch of crock, I rolled my eyes at that, it was so fake.  I actually liked Eileen's attempts to reason with Brandi, but of course it was a waste of time just like Lisa R told her it would be.

[Neurochick]

Too bad Brandi and Kim didn't fall off that boat.

[venusnv80]

Honestly, I think the trip and the boat ride would have went more smoothly if Brandi wasn't around. If Brandi didn't come, Kim probably would have flaked too or at the very least would be passive aggressive and keep her drugged up mouth shut. 

 

I actually like the cast that they have now overall (sans Brandi). I think they could really have some fun together without drama if the cancer is cut out. 

[charming]

I had empathy for Eileen. Here she is, repeatedly insulted and abused by Brandi & Kim on several occasions. She's endured wine being thrown in her face, taunts about her home, face and hair. She's witnessed a brutal argument and then the next day, they're off shopping. I can understand why she wasn't able to shake it off or be in "survival mode" the way Lisa R. was.

 

Brandi's never had anyone tell her she's an alcoholic? Or a mean drunk? Really? She must have been popping Monty's pills too.

 

I love the Bravo editors airing what Eileen actually stated. Showing that she was telling the truth.

 

Kim thinks being called a homewrecker is a joke and everyone needs to lighten up? Hope she feels the same way when her BFF Brandi is talking about her business. Next week- You're lying! You're lying! Hahahaha. Hahahaha. I don't even care. Nobody deserves this betrayal more than this spoiled child woman. I can't wait!

 

Brandi is a mess. I don't care why she's a mess. There's no excuse for her nastiness. One day she's going to slap the wrong person and get her ass handed to her.

[motorcitymom65]

How strange was Brandi when playing the game that she had recommended? Only wanting to compliment the others mostly on the physical, and not wanting for anyone to take a turn at her. What was she so afraid of? That someone would say something kind or insightful and she would have to reconsider that they are all heinous assholes at their core?

[CaughtOnTape]

Yes Kim....sit there and cry with the crocodile tears.  It's terrible for Kyle to hang out with people you don't like but it's a-ok for you to do it.

 

Screw you.  Get off this show.

 

Eileen was 100% correct in her handling of the situation.  What a breath of fresh air to have a rational woman on this show.  I do not understand how Kim can sit next to Brandi and not see her manipulation and machinations of the situation.

[venusnv80]

I think Lisa said the most profound thing of all to Brandi. I think she was afraid that none of the women would have anything good to say about her. 

 

CaughtOnTape, Kim can sit there and do that because she's high as a kite. 

Edited March 11, 2015 by venusnv80

[SwordQueen]

Migraine-filtered thoughts:

 

I love Eileen.  She has great boobs.  <---- That's my Brandi-esque compliment. 

 

I still, always and forever love Lisa V and Kyle's friendship.  I got all verklempt hearing Lisa talk about their similarities.  

 

Only dogs can hear Brandi when she gets that squeaky.  Maybe that's why she only seems to attract dogs.  Things that make you go hmmm.

 

No one has ever told Brandi that she's a mean drunk?  PROOF POSITIVE that Brandi has never lurked or posted here or on TWOP. 

 

How can Eileen or anyone "unravel" someone's sobriety if it's not already threadbare?  How can anyone ruin someone else's life simply by acknowledging something that everyone already knows about anyway?  Shut up, Kim.  I hate your face 100%.

 

Lisa V is right about Lisa R being a people pleaser.  Ugh.  Stop it, Lisa.  You don't need everyone to like you.  Being a "good person" doesn't mean shit if you have to twist yourself into a pretzel in order to be liked.  No wonder the woman snapped like a rubber band at the Dinner From Hell: Amsterdam Edition. 

 

LOL that Brandi doesn't want the HW to "make up" nice things about her, yet she was doing just that with them. 

 

I want to go to Amsterdam.  It looks so lovely and awesome.  These bitches don't appreciate anything. 

 

Kim and Brandi gooooo awwwaaaaay.  You two both suck and blow.

 

I liked that Yo got up and went to eat by herself.  She doesn't need to referee.  Glad Lisa, Eileen, Lisa R and then eventually Kyle joined her. 

Edited March 11, 2015 by SwordQueen

[BlackMamba]

Can we finally now call Brandi a total HYPOCRITE after this episode. Not only did she slap LVP but she also also semi pushed her so she could slap her. Isn't this the same bitch who claimed about Kyle touching her during the Poker Night and even last week she didn't want to be touched, but she touches LVP! Bitch, what?

The winner of this episode was without a doubt Eileen Davidson! She held Lisa R's feet to the fire on her fakeness with Kim. I have liked Lisa R for the most part this season but shes shakened by Kim's behavior now but there is no need to be phony.

I did like the "Lets Be Nice" game to take a break from the drama. It seemed genuine from all the women until Brandi didn't want to finish it and Lisa R telling Kim she loved her. My favorite parts in that game was when LVP told Kyle if she ever needs someone to be basically her ride or die it would be her. And of course when Kim/Kyle had a moment. Kyle does bring up a good point about Brandi she only is about the looks of a person instead of digging deep with someone. There is more to a person than just physical appearance.

Edited March 11, 2015 by BlackMamba

[AnnA]

I disagree

The incident two night before was horrific as Eileen put it, it probably was just one of many nights for drunk Brandi and addict Kim but for Eileen is was an absolutely horrible experience and she can't just pretend that it never happened and act like everything is normal.

 

 

I'm surprised that you disagree but that's OK.

 

I agree with what you said about Kim and Brandi and also understand that Eileen needed to have her say.   However, I do not believe that the "right" place for these women to rehash their problems was on that dinner boat.   There's a time and a place for everything.  They could have and should have had that discussion privately in one of their hotel rooms.   

[Cranky One]

Eileen is one cool cucumber. I wish I could argue like her!

Not only was Brandi seething when Kim and Kyle hugged, you know she was none to pleased whst LVP said about Kyle in the nice game. And wtf when it was her turn. And more importantly, wtf was she wearing? She really wants her Sally Fields moment with LVP, doesn't she? Ugh. Just Ugh.

Kim. No words after the preview next week. Are brandi and Kim still bffs?

[motorcitymom65]

Yes Kim....sit there and cry with the crocodile tears.  It's terrible for Kyle to hang out with people you don't like but it's a-ok for you to do it.

 

Screw you.  Get off this show.

 

Eileen was 100% correct in her handling of the situation.  What a breath of fresh air to have a rational woman on this show.  I do not understand how Kim can sit next to Brandi and not see her manipulation and machinations of the situation.

I am already imaging how Eileen will basically dismantle Kim and Brandi at the reunion. This woman uses logic and selects her words carefully. She remembers specifically what she said, and will apologize if she said something that is misunderstood. I like the way she doesn't just react to an accusation (Brandi saying she had called her an alcoholic), but listens to what is being said and asks questions for clarification. It was awesome the way she got Brandi to admit that what she had really heard was that she was mean when she was drunk, which is different than being an alcoholic. Also the way she called Kim out when she said that Eileen had said "lots" of mean stuff about Brandi at their lunch. I fell a little in love with her tonight.

I like Lisar, but Lisa V was right about her being a people pleaser. That speech about loving Kim had me rolling my eyes. Also the part about feeling this special connection with Brandi. Her compliment should have been she has long legs.

[venusnv80]

I love Kim shouting about Kyle lying...I love that she will have egg on her face. How anyone could befriend Brandi after watching all of the mess she's done to other people. The only reason why I could possibly believe that Kim would want to be with Brandi is because she doesn't hold Kim accountable for anything and feeds her delusions. 

[SFoster21]

Have to say - Kyle looked great in that red dress - and taller than usual...

Brandi wore hooker chic, leather coat over hot pants, teased hair extensions, curls and too much rouge. The cleavage was standard.

Did she dress especially for this big scene? She kept on the coat? Why?

Kyle looked beautiful with her hair pulled back.

[AnnA]

Eileen is one cool cucumber. I wish I could argue like her!

Not only was Brandi seething when Kim and Kyle hugged, you know she was none to pleased whst LVP said about Kyle in the nice game. And wtf when it was her turn. And more importantly, wtf was she wearing? She really wants her Sally Fields moment with LVP, doesn't she? Ugh. Just Ugh.

Kim. No words after the preview next week. Are brandi and Kim still bffs?

 

 

I agree with you about Eileen.  She is cool under pressure, maintains her dignity and yet speaks her mind.  

 

I have no idea about the state of the friendship between Brandi and Kim.  In a recent interview, Kyle said things between her and Kim weren't great and just before the reunion, she said they hadn't spoken in months.

[BlackMamba]

Eileen is one cool cucumber. I wish I could argue like her!

Not only was Brandi seething when Kim and Kyle hugged, you know she was none to pleased whst LVP said about Kyle in the nice game. And wtf when it was her turn. And more importantly, wtf was she wearing? She really wants her Sally Fields moment with LVP, doesn't she? Ugh. Just Ugh.

Kim. No words after the preview next week. Are brandi and Kim still bffs?

 

Brandi wasn't happy when Kyle first came into the room looking stunning!  Peep her face.  Jealously.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Oh man, I really hope they're not gonna be rehashing that stupid fuckin' bullshit slap 800 bazillion times.  Brandi is an idiot & she was being stupid/silly & NOT her usual mean self.  End of story.  This is what you've been teasing us with, Satan Andy?  Big huge enormous fail.  Move the fuck on. please.

[marcytv]

Oh man, Brandi and Kim have such a toxic "friendship" and are so toxic themselves. It's all very sad really, except they're both also assholes so I can't feel sorry for them. Kim is actually really disturbing to watch, for realsies. I get uncomfortable and kinda scared watching her this season (Even more so than previous ones).

 

I hate fake niceness too and almost all of them were for sure going to fib when it came to Brandi's turn, but it was HER idea. So the fact that she ran up to cry and wanted to end the game was dumb. It was interesting how she said something physical about everyone except for Kim. I mean she also told Yolanda she loved everything about her but it was kind of in passing. When she talked about Kim she went all out. And a part of me thinks it's because she wanted to one-up Kyle since Kim and Kyle shared a nice sister moment for once.

[Rhetorica]

I understand Eileen's confusion. She left with Lisar declaring she would never speak to Kim again and now all is forgiven and forgotten. Wha??? I thought Lisar was backpedaling on events. Eileen had her in a corner and Lisar knew it. 

Kyle talking to Eileen in the lobby and then Yolanda on the canal boat, was, again, so needy.... "Wasn't my sister mean to me?!!  Validate me!! 

Regarding the dinner, I would be like Yo. I'd quietly walk away and enjoy my holiday alone or engage with the locals. I surely would not engage, especially with what happened the night before.

I think Brandi is more messed up, psychology, than Kim.

Is Eileen like this on her daytime show? If so, I'm gonna DVR it!