Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Cinnabon]

12 hours ago, Notabug said:

Hence, it's why they could afford to fly out to California for the wedding and run out and purchase clothing for their children rather than pack the right stuff.  Their lifestyle is not cheap.

Things actual low income families aren’t able to do.

11 hours ago, Notabug said:

True, but that is kinda what Carlin described, that she fell to the floor unconscious and was lying on the floor shaking for half an hour.  She seemed to be describing a tonic-clonic type generalized seizure, not something focal. 

Exactly.

[Cinnabon]

8 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

Now I wonder if any of these types of MLM people keep track of the hours involved and figuring what they make, per hour?  If the top average is 37 grand yearly, what would be their average hourly earning rate?  Somehow I think that they have to put in over 40 hours a week bothering their downline and inundating any family or friends with sales pitches.  I know it wouldn't be worth it to me.

Jilldo probably tells her "team" that Jesus loves it when they line her (Jill's) pockets with money.  I also think she spends not a dime of "her" earnings on those underfed kids of hers.  Selfish to the (rotten) core.  It's all about "dates" with that slug of a husband.

Sad.

And there’s a HUGE difference between gross and actual income when self employed.

[emmawoodhouse]

1 minute ago, Cinnabon said:

And there’s a HUGE difference between gross and actual income when self employed.

I imagine someone like Jill has enough deductions to offset most of the tax burden from her Plexus money. The Bates and Duggar influencers? Not so much.

[Cinnabon]

4 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

JRod is on SM bragging that people are constantly asking her how to raise godly children.  It’s a nonstop ego stroke with that holier-than-thou witch.

Since she doesn’t allow comments on many of her accounts, I doubt she gets a lot of questions.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Cinnabon

[GeeGolly]

I'm thinking JillR doesn't make enough from Plexus to even claim it. I wonder if we'll see her slowly peter out and stop selling it soon. She seems to be nearing that point of realization after the initial flurry of hope when Plexus was still courting her and she was still able to con others into selling it. There's also no stimulus checks coming in where she can lie to herself and David pretending her Plexus income was actually more than it is.

Janelle from Sister Wives seems to have come into selling Plexus after a sister wife and her daughter but surpassed them in sales and downlines. If JillR is keeping an eye on on folks like Janelle it could be another reason to quit.

I wonder, if and when Jill does quit selling Plexus, if she'll rant and rave about how unGodly they are.

[merylinkid]

People:   What on EARTH are you doing to those kids?

What Jill hears:   Oh my goodness, you are such a wonderful mother, how DO you do it?

[zoomama]

re: the mention about 'this is us'....i am not caught up yet so dont spill anthing yet! 

[farmgal4]

Chad and Erin are moving to Florida!  They’ve got a new YT video and just announced it.  I wonder if he’s going to be working with Alyssa’s husband?

[iwantcookies]

Yeah right. Like Jill leaves her phone UNLOCKED lying around. That phone is with her all the time.

[GeeGolly]

8 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

Chad and Erin are moving to Florida!  They’ve got a new YT video and just announced it.  I wonder if he’s going to be working with Alyssa’s husband?

This is crazy. I think Chad's grandfather lives there. Maybe they will support him and... I know it sounds harsh, but then move into his home?

This is like the equivalent of Jessa moving - just never thought it would happen.

[merylinkid]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I know it sounds harsh, but then move into his home?

Nothing wrong with that.   If they are going to be taking care of the grandfather, why wouldn't they move in with him.   It's a common family arrangement, even in non-fundie circles.   And if he leaves them the house when he dies, so what?   They were the ones who moved in and helped care for him.

Now, if they move in, shove him out and put him in a nursing home to be forgotten (it's the forgotten part that is the problem, not the nursing home) then that is a problem.   But otherwise, if he has the room, why shouldn't a growing family live with  him instead of in whatever cramped hovel they can barely afford they are in now?

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Nothing wrong with that.   If they are going to be taking care of the grandfather, why wouldn't they move in with him.   It's a common family arrangement, even in non-fundie circles.   And if he leaves them the house when he dies, so what?   They were the ones who moved in and helped care for him.

Now, if they move in, shove him out and put him in a nursing home to be forgotten (it's the forgotten part that is the problem, not the nursing home) then that is a problem.   But otherwise, if he has the room, why shouldn't a growing family live with  him instead of in whatever cramped hovel they can barely afford they are in now?

Yea, you're right. In my head it was much harsher.

[Notabug]

4 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Nothing wrong with that.   If they are going to be taking care of the grandfather, why wouldn't they move in with him.   It's a common family arrangement, even in non-fundie circles.   And if he leaves them the house when he dies, so what?   They were the ones who moved in and helped care for him.

Now, if they move in, shove him out and put him in a nursing home to be forgotten (it's the forgotten part that is the problem, not the nursing home) then that is a problem.   But otherwise, if he has the room, why shouldn't a growing family live with  him instead of in whatever cramped hovel they can barely afford they are in now?

When I was a kid, we moved in with my grandfather shortly after my grandmother died.  My parents had 5 kids at the time and some serious financial problems and the plan was beneficial to both sides.  We were only going to stay temporarily, it lasted 6 years.  My grandfather died barely a year after we left and I think he would've lived a lot longer had he moved with us as my parents wanted.  He was too lonely on his own.  My grandfather didn't have much in the way of assets anyway, but there was no arrangement with my parents on inheritance; the estate was divided evenly between his 7 kids.  My dad got about 8 grand, which wasn't awful in 1974, but not a fortune, either.

The one gift that I and my siblings got was the chance to really know my grandfather and for him to know us.  He was a great storyteller and funny as all hell.  My dad had those same traits.  To this day, almost 50 years later, my sibs and I will still bring up stuff Grandpa said and did at various family gatherings and my many other cousins frequently express envy that they didn't know him like we did.

I how Erin and Chad's kids get the same experience we had; a real chance to know an older person, warts and all.

[emmawoodhouse]

11 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

This is crazy. I think Chad's grandfather lives there. Maybe they will support him and... I know it sounds harsh, but then move into his home?

This is like the equivalent of Jessa moving - just never thought it would happen.

Chad's grandfather lives in a 55+ retirement community. His parents are selling their home, so I figure they are the ones moving in with Grampy. Maybe Chad has been hired as a handyman for the community? But that doesn't solve where they will actually live.

[judyjudyjudy]

On 5/18/2022 at 10:17 AM, Notabug said:

I'm sorry, I did not mean to offend.  My remarks were intended specifically to Carlin and her situation and my impression of her based on what I've seen on TV and social media.  She seems to be a very high strung (my mom loved that phrase) person who tends to be easily unnerved.  She also seems to be someone who enjoys being the center of attention.  There is no doubt that there is a mind-body connection in all illnesses and some people are simply wired to cope while others are not.  Carlin does not seem to me to have very good coping skills in general and I think she is therefore likely to jump to the worst case scenario, panic, and go to the ER in situations where others would not.  That doesn't mean something isn't wrong with her.  It does, however, mean that she is perhaps going to have a longer path to getting the help she needs as it seems pretty clear that whatever is going on with her is outside of the ER's purview.  This is why people need a regular personal physician, IMO, someone who can guide them, who knows them, who can help them get appointments with specialists in more timely fashion.  Carlin also needs to stop putting all this stuff up on social media because it seems that the comments she gets are only going to fuel her anxiety about the whole thing which will only exacerbate the problems she is having.

I don't have a problem with Carlin's speculation that she might be having seizures.  She's not a medical person and it seems like, when she has her episodes, she does some things that might indicate a seizure.  Since the ER hasn't kept her and she hasn't been placed on anti-seizure meds, I think the ER staff doesn't think that that's what'shappening here.

I used to have seizures following a head injury and did have to go via ambulance several times to the ER, prior to my diagnosis.  Even if she was given anti-seizure meds in the ambulance, she would be so exhausted (post-ictal stage) from the seizures and from the meds (they all have a sedating effect) that she would not look that good at any point during her ER stay.  If these were actual seizures, the ER staff would have absolutely retained her in the hospital to try to get to the bottom of what was going on.  Something just doesn't add up

[GeeGolly]

21 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Chad's grandfather lives in a 55+ retirement community. His parents are selling their home, so I figure they are the ones moving in with Grampy. Maybe Chad has been hired as a handyman for the community? But that doesn't solve where they will actually live.

Hmm, I wonder who built and/or owns the community? Maybe they'll allow Erin's crew to live there in exchange for care taking duties.

[emmawoodhouse]

22 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Hmm, I wonder who built and/or owns the community? Maybe they'll allow Erin's crew to live there in exchange for care taking duties.

The community is run by some Christian organization that Gramps chaired for six years (I named it in the Chad/Erin thread). It consists of homes, apartments, and mobile homes, so it sounds like a rather sizable place.

eta It's the Wesleyan Bible Conference Association.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by emmawoodhouse

[GeeGolly]

11 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

The community is run by some Christian organization that Gramps chaired for six years (I named it in the Chad/Erin thread). It consists of homes, apartments, and mobile homes, so it sounds like a rather sizable place.

eta It's the Wesleyan Bible Conference Association.

Oh my goodness - the street names and the narrator's voice. 

If I got lost in there, I'd turn around and get out, right quick.

[Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Hmm, I wonder who built and/or owns the community? Maybe they'll allow Erin's crew to live there in exchange for care taking duties.

How would she have time to do that as well as homeschool her many kids and everything else?

[ginger90]

Screenshot from a video:

[Cinnabon]

Back on the road with gas prices as high as they are???

[emmawoodhouse]

First there was pediatrician doctor, then algebra-math. Now we have Native American Indians. 🙄

Edited May 21, 2022 by emmawoodhouse

[SMama]

20 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Back on the road with gas prices as high as they are???

They don’t care, they grift everything including gas money. I really hope they are not going to bother Nurthan. Jill has never worked tirelessly, her underfed kids do all the heavy lifting. 

Edited May 21, 2022 by SMama

[Cinnabon]

5 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

First there was pediatrician doctor, then algebra-math. Now we have Native American Indians. 🙄

And that one is offensive.

[emmawoodhouse]

Just now, Cinnabon said:

And that one is offensive.

Very much so. And very much on brand for Jill.

[iwantcookies]

Jilldo he can’t talk yet so he definitely isn’t calling you Mimi 🙄

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Jilldo he can’t talk yet so he definitely isn’t calling you Mimi 🙄

Oops, already noted. 🙄

Edited May 21, 2022 by emmawoodhouse

[sheshark]

22 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Yeah right. Like Jill leaves her phone UNLOCKED lying around. That phone is with her all the time.

Scary like The Exorcist.

[CalicoKitty]

I wonder if BME begs money for gas in parking lots or at the gas station.  I can picture the stink bus taking up room at the pump with people waiting, while she goes car to car asking for gas money.  Or maybe they start singing at the gas station.  That might work.

[iwantcookies]

Imagine how much food they can buy instead of wasting it on gas to go grifting. 
 

Rod parents are such idiots.

And yay for killing more trees. No one wants your tracts grifters!

[GeeGolly]

4 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

How would she have time to do that as well as homeschool her many kids and everything else?

I was meaning Chad taking care of the properties and such.

[floridamom]

If Carlin's further tests with specialists don't show anything is wrong...perhaps she's having anxiety attacks. I suffered with them for 2 years some time ago....you can feel faint, heart palpitations, etc. Nothing showed up for me on tests...I had to do some real "self-healing" and have a good talk with myself; ween off tranquilizers and concentrate to live in the moment. She has had a lot of changes recently....a business, birth of children, new house, travel, etc...not enough real rest perhaps...maybe this is what's happening to her. (Not a doctor, just experienced a similar situation myself.) I hope they figure out what it is soon.

[merylinkid]

11 hours ago, SMama said:

I really hope they are not going to bother Nurthan.

Sadly based on the Mimi post I think they are.   After all, Nurie can't go through her pregnancy without her precious mamma by her side.   Or else, you know, Nurie might be some attention that Jill believes is rightfully hers.   

[Westiepeach]

1 minute ago, merylinkid said:

Sadly based on the Mimi post I think they are.   After all, Nurie can't go through her pregnancy without her precious mamma by her side.   Or else, you know, Nurie might be some attention that Jill believes is rightfully hers.   

Plus, Nurie’s eyebrows might be looking good. Time to tweeze!

[iwantcookies]

Nurie is due in 5-6 months? Definitely time to visit now and take what $ they got saved for mommy and popsy! Mommy and popsy are very hungry and need new stuff.

[madpsych78]

13 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

Jilldo he can’t talk yet so he definitely isn’t calling you Mimi 🙄

I'm going to slightly play devil's advocate here (are there any speech pathologists here who could weigh in?), but babbling is not that unusual in a 7-month-old (e.g., baba, mama, dada, any type of consonant/vowel combinations). I don't think he is communicating with any purposeful intention, but it's not far-fetched that he may be uttering those sounds. Of course, narcissistic Jill thinks that he has all the intention in the world and that it is directed to HER. 

Edited May 21, 2022 by madpsych78

[BradandJanet]

30 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Nurie is due in 5-6 months? Definitely time to visit now and take what $ they got saved for mommy and popsy! Mommy and popsy are very hungry and need new stuff.

Yes, it's time for Jill to raid Nurthan's bank account. Poor MeMe and PooPoo haven't had a restaurant dinner date in months, and there are still some spaces in the upstairs attic addition that lack plastic flowers. Oh, Phillip needs a car and college money too. He's not getting paid to help print and box all those stupid smiley tracts. 

[Cinnabon]

Maybe they should have left Philip at home to try and find a job. You know, so that he can make a little bit of money to use for school/transportation. Did Timothy go with them on the road?

[Westiepeach]

I think TimBits did something really bad to piss BME off. He hasn’t been featured in any of the circus videos lately.

[BradandJanet]

11 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Maybe they should have left Philip at home to try and find a job. You know, so that he can make a little bit of money to use for school/transportation. Did Timothy go with them on the road?

Is Phillip on this trip? I thought Jill announced he was leaving the singing tours because of college. Maybe the touring break doesn't start until he shows up to campus broke, and reality kicks in. Books??? Fees??? Lunch??? Gas??? Nobody told us about that stuff!!!

6 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I think TimBits did something really bad to piss BME off. He hasn’t been featured in any of the circus videos lately.

Knowing Jill, Tim's transgression likely involved not honoring her properly on Mother's Day. She loves those cards and gifts, which had better be expensive and on time. 

[Cinnabon]

7 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

Is Phillip on this trip? I thought Jill announced he was leaving the singing tours because of college. Maybe the touring break doesn't start until he shows up to campus broke, and reality kicks in. Books??? Fees??? Lunch??? Gas??? Nobody told us about that stuff!!!

Knowing Jill, Tim's transgression likely involved not honoring her properly on Mother's Day. She loves those cards and gifts, which had better be expensive and on time. 

Not sure. I hope they did leave him at home.

[crazy8s]

I think Jill said in the video at the one church that Phillip would be dropping out of the group later this summer for bible college.

[Abmis]

8 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Not sure. I hope they did leave him at home.

Me too, and I hope he and Timbits do something wild and crazy like watch an R rated movie.

[Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, Abmis said:

Me too, and I hope he and Timbits do something wild and crazy like watch an R rated movie.

I wish they would! Sadly, their cult has them so brainwashed that they follow its rules even when mommy and daddy are gone. 

9 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I think Jill said in the video at the one church that Phillip would be dropping out of the group later this summer for bible college.

No need to work and save a bit before starting school, I guess. Easier to beg for handouts.

[merylinkid]

I know why is Phillip not working some summer job -- even if its the local convenience store or McDonald's?

So Jill can trot him out at "speaking engagements" and grift money for a car and tuition -- which she will keep for herself?

[Cinnabon]

2 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

I know why is Phillip not working some summer job -- even if its the local convenience store or McDonald's?

So Jill can trot him out at "speaking engagements" and grift money for a car and tuition -- which she will keep for herself?

Exactly!

[Notabug]

Could be,  but, he's a little young for 'm' sounds anyway.  Jill decided before he was born that he would call her 'Mimi' and not granny or grandma or meemaw; and I am sure she reinforces that dictate by repeatedly referring to herself in the third person by that name.  I doubt the kid actually calls her anything at this point, just inwardly cringes when he sees her scary face.  Imagine being a tiny kid and having all those teeth and a bug eyed raccoon eyed screecher up in your face all the time

On a lighter note, he is a cute little guy.  Too bad about his Mimi.

 

1 hour ago, madpsych78 said:

I'm going to slightly play devil's advocate here (are there any speech pathologists here who could weigh in?), but babbling is not that unusual in a 7-month-old (e.g., baba, mama, dada, any type of consonant/vowel combinations). I don't think he is communicating with any purposeful intention, but it's not far-fetched that he may be uttering those sounds. Of course, narcissistic Jill thinks that he has all the intention in the world and that it is directed to HER. 

Edited May 21, 2022 by Notabug

[Notabug]

4 hours ago, floridamom said:

If Carlin's further tests with specialists don't show anything is wrong...perhaps she's having anxiety attacks. I suffered with them for 2 years some time ago....you can feel faint, heart palpitations, etc. Nothing showed up for me on tests...I had to do some real "self-healing" and have a good talk with myself; ween off tranquilizers and concentrate to live in the moment. She has had a lot of changes recently....a business, birth of children, new house, travel, etc...not enough real rest perhaps...maybe this is what's happening to her. (Not a doctor, just experienced a similar situation myself.) I hope they figure out what it is soon.

I think panic/anxiety attacks are probably on the list of possible diagnoses for Carlin's episodes; at least the doctor's list, probably not Carlin's.

 

27 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

I know why is Phillip not working some summer job -- even if its the local convenience store or McDonald's?

So Jill can trot him out at "speaking engagements" and grift money for a car and tuition -- which she will keep for herself?

Also, children learn what they live.  Phillip has no example as to what people do when they need money other than that of his parents:  go to churches to preach, sing and beg for money.  A car for him isn't the first one Jill has essentially expected to be given to them for nothing; it's worked before, actually worked on multiple occasions.  It probably didn't even occur to Phillip to find a real job because his parents don't have them, Tim's work history is spotty at best and they've been pretty lucky with begging for freebies over the last decade or so.  Work?  Who needs it?  Not the Rodriguii.

Edited May 21, 2022 by Notabug

[Teriacky]

But the name Mee Meeeeee is so appropriate for Jill.

[ozziemom]

If Philly went to work at McDonald’s he might encounter women exposing their knees! Or have a woman boss! He would be SEVERELY traumatized. He probably wouldn’t be able to preach the right Bible to random customers either. There are a lot of reasons why the Rodlets can’t work at regular jobs but the main one is crazy parents.