Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[GeeGolly]

As noted above this whole thing isn't about purity, its about speaking out of turn.

And since when do opinions need to be backed up by scripture to make them right? 

Lastly, do Jill and David realize having a man defend their wife's opinion carries no weight in the real world? 

[mythoughtis]

Nurie has now commented on David’s post.  Just like the other commenters, she has no clue what the original issue was.  They are all assuming that the negative comments were about whether or not the couple should have waited to kiss. They don’t understand that the negative comments on Jill’s post were about Jill announcing it to 8000 peopje without permission. Although we did see Ellen’s post on her own page about it being a preference not a command. So I guess Ellen realized Jill was being holier than though.  
 

Hallie flipping the bird is just going to incite further response from Jill. What a mess this has become. 

Edited September 21 by mythoughtis

[crazy8s]

7 hours ago, satrunrose said:

If DBD wants scriptural support for the MYOB and leave your child's sex life off social media argument may I suggest

Matthew 6:1

1 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven."

And since the BCE (best couple ever) have spent the past twenty years so busy parading their righteousness that they neglected to feed their own children, let alone a stranger, I think that if there is a Heaven and a day of reckoning in it, those two will be in for a shock.

Matthew 25:40 ESV /

And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

2 Corinthians 13:11-14 (KJV)

"Greet one another with an holy kiss"

 

There are 0 biblical mandates about kissing before marriage. Only that you should not kiss if doing so leads you to impure thoughts or actions.

[merylinkid]

Of course Nurie chimed in.   The only difference between Nurie and Jill is that Nurie is married to an actual preacher who works.   Otherwise she is a carbon copy of Jill, brain dead and judgmental.   

Jill is not going to take over Heidi and Tim's lives and that is going to drive her crazy.

[ginger90]

Nurie’s reply on David’s post:

 

“Thank you Daddy and Mama, for always being such a refreshment to my soul! Thank you for lovingly standing for truth and righteousness.  It is such a beautiful thing when a young couple save themselves for each other and choose to save there first kiss for there wedding day. It is such a good testimony and I don't know why anyone would put that down or act ashamed of that. It was so special for Nathan and I to share our first kiss on our wedding day and nothing I would be ashamed to share.  Our goal in life should be to bring God glory and I am so thankful for parents who have strived to do that their whole lives.  There is truly a war going on in our country, between right and wrong,  but PRAISE the LORD we are on the winning side.  I am so thankful for God's goodness in my life and the wonderful family I have. Keep standing strong! 💗”

[lianau]

there first kiss ...  O Nurie.

[crazy8s]

16 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Nurie’s reply on David’s post:

 

“Thank you Daddy and Mama, for always being such a refreshment to my soul! Thank you for lovingly standing for truth and righteousness.  It is such a beautiful thing when a young couple save themselves for each other and choose to save there first kiss for there wedding day. It is such a good testimony and I don't know why anyone would put that down or act ashamed of that. It was so special for Nathan and I to share our first kiss on our wedding day and nothing I would be ashamed to share.  Our goal in life should be to bring God glory and I am so thankful for parents who have strived to do that their whole lives.  There is truly a war going on in our country, between right and wrong,  but PRAISE the LORD we are on the winning side.  I am so thankful for God's goodness in my life and the wonderful family I have. Keep standing strong! 💗”

Nurie also misses the point. Tim and Heidi would probably also say they would not be ashamed to share. If they would have shared it themselves there would be no issue.

Mama needing to post it to share with strangers is what was called into question.

[Notabug]

11 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The headship speaks:

”A response from me (David) in regards to the backlash we received from posting about Timothy & Heidi's first kiss...

Romans 11:36-12:2

11:36  –  For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

12:1+2 – I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

We are clearly commanded in the New Testament by Paul the Apostle and the inspiration of the Holy Ghost to present our bodies a living sacrifice.

It amazes me how many "so-called" Christians can criticize people who have a desire to serve God with a passion. The picture of that may be different for many, but the command is clear about how we are supposed to live. The Bible says “present your bodies" – holy, acceptable unto God.

Criticism resulting from a post that exalts a couple saving their first kiss for marriage is clearly ungodly. I do not have to think of that for long at all to know that this is an attempt to break down a good standard and one that teaches abstinence until marriage. This is what God teaches all through the Scriptures.

Above is only one passage of Scripture. There are many others that teach us to be holy in all manner of conversation [how our life looks to others].

Critics like to use the idea that this type of post may make people feel bad. May I say that those same critics could care less how their comments make us feel. So, the height of hypocrisy has once again manifested itself.

My goal, as a father, is to glorify the King of Kings, Jesus Christ - who died on a cross and shed His blood to pay for my sorry sin sick soul because He loved me with all His heart. I owe Him my life, I owe Him my testimony, I owe Him more than I could ever begin to pay. By His grace, we as a family will always exalt a more separated lifestyle. We are not called to "fit in". We are called to be holy. Did we forget that God’s Word says that we are a peculiar people.

Titus 2:14 – "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."

The lifestyle we as a Christian family choose to exalt, may look different and wrong to others, but that does not, or at least should not, make a difference to those who know Christ. Those who know Christ, know that they will be persecuted for righteousness sake.

1 Peter 3:14

But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled: But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give and answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

Glory to God.....  

         - It is a good conversation when a couple makes it to the marriage altar pure.

       - It is a good conversation that they will never be perceived as fornicators.

         -It is a good conversation that they put clothes on, not take them off.

        -It is a good conversation to associate with things that promote righteous living.

I notice that most people that defend a different position, never seem to use Scripture to back up there reasoning. They always refer to how it makes others "feel".  We strive never to intentionally hurt people, but if having a life that is pressing toward a holy conversation offends you, there is nothing we can or will do to change that. You will have to take that up with God.

Titus 2:11-14

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Lastly, the mind of God is revealed in the Scriptures. It is not the perception of human beings that dictate God’s mind on things. What we know about God is revealed in the Holy Scriptures. We do our best to draw conclusions from God’s Word being filled with the Spirit and share our faith as we see it. Will we make mistakes?  Yes. However, we will always strive to do things as Biblical as possible.

John 5:39

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I will end with this Scripture....1 Corinthians 6:9-11  "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, not effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."

-David Rodrigues  (Father of the Groom)”

And as usual, Dave completely misses the point.  People were not objecting to the personal choices made by Tim and Heidi; they were objecting to Tim’s mother bragging about those choices in a public forum.  It is nobody’s business what Tim and Heidi do and Jill had no right to reveal something so personal about other people online. TMI as the Coveretts have so clearly stated.
 

Had Tim and Heidi chosen to join a swingers’ club and sleep with a dozen different people a night, nothing changes; it is not for Jill to report to the world. 
 

Also , I realize I am just a heathen Catholic who doesn’t even own a KJV;  but my bible says something about “judge lest not you be judged”.  And, yet, here are Jill and Dave judging a bunch of strangers and declaring themselves better than everyone else.  Again. Some more.

[ginger90]

So, Jill didn’t show up for the wedding in a boot, in a wheelchair, and she didn’t wear white, but she did this. She’s receiving what she considers “backlash”, and doesn’t even understand why.

There has to be a medical term for this.  Persecutory delusion, perhaps? Or just delusional?

Edited September 21 by ginger90

[satrunrose]

I will give one teeny tiny in fairness to Nurie, I seem to remember that Jill made the same gushing comments about Nurie and Kaylee's "purity" (ugh) around their courtship/marriage and no one objected except for us snarkers. I wonder if it landed a little strangely that no one in their circle tried to defend their privacy, but now that not-so-golden-boy Tim comes a long and the internet is in an uproar. I realize that this is because Tim seems to be the first Rod with in-laws that are in any way engaged in their children's lives, but I wonder how and if N and K see it.  

[crazy8s]

15 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

I will give one teeny tiny in fairness to Nurie, I seem to remember that Jill made the same gushing comments about Nurie and Kaylee's "purity" (ugh) around their courtship/marriage and no one objected except for us snarkers. I wonder if it landed a little strangely that no one in their circle tried to defend their privacy, but now that not-so-golden-boy Tim comes a long and the internet is in an uproar. I realize that this is because Tim seems to be the first Rod with in-laws that are in any way engaged in their children's lives, but I wonder how and if N and K see it.  

This is true. But Nurie and Kaylee did not have there own social media accts when they got married and as far as we know had not told mama they would handle making their own posts with what information they wanted to share.

Tim and Heidi have made that decision and Jill has made a point of telling us just that.

Brianne also reactivated her fb for a hot minute to support Mrs Jill.  Wonder how Brianne will feel when Mrs Jill films her privates in the delivery room and tells a graphic story of her giving birth and TMI postpartum info.

 

[ginger90]

24 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

I wonder if it landed a little strangely that no one in their circle tried to defend their privacy, but now that not-so-golden-boy Tim comes a long and the internet is in an uproar.

In my opinion Jill stepped all over Timothy’s request that he wanted to post about himself, not her. This was well before the wedding. She had to wait for the ok to post about the wedding, and this is what she did. Family members, specifically Heidi’s grandmother requested she remove a particular post. Instead she deleted such comments, left the post up, and then basically went on a rampage with HER as the victim. Surprising? No. Out of line? Yes.

[mythoughtis]

29 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Family members, specifically Heidi’s grandmother requested she remove a particular post. Instead she deleted such comments, left the post up, and then basically went on a rampage with HER as the victim.

Exactly. I doubt that Nurie, David and Brianne even know the content of  the family’s comments on the purity post and are just reacting to Jill’s version of the ‘backlash’.  This is what Jill is like as an in-law.  

Edited September 21 by mythoughtis

[GeeGolly]

36 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

I will give one teeny tiny in fairness to Nurie, I seem to remember that Jill made the same gushing comments about Nurie and Kaylee's "purity" (ugh) around their courtship/marriage and no one objected except for us snarkers. I wonder if it landed a little strangely that no one in their circle tried to defend their privacy, but now that not-so-golden-boy Tim comes a long and the internet is in an uproar. I realize that this is because Tim seems to be the first Rod with in-laws that are in any way engaged in their children's lives, but I wonder how and if N and K see it.  

Maybe because Jill made a passive-aggressive post about a year ago letting everyone know she was asked not to post about Heidi and Tim without their permission. Then when she is allowed to share pictures she goes way to far in what she shares.

[emma675]

Jill must be a complete terror at home right now, raging to anyone who will listen that she's being attacked and persecuted. Those poor kids (I say that a lot about the Rod kids, sadly). I hope Tim and Heidi choose not to engage in this, but I can see Tim making a post defending Jill. I don't think he's broken away as much as others do, that will take years of consistent effort. 

I do wonder if Jill considers this latest kerfuffle to be worse than the devil attacking her with that demonic can of green beans years ago. 🤣

[CalicoKitty]

Nothing like pouring gasoline on a fire.  Jill and Dave may have met their match with  Heidi's family; at least I hope so.  I really feel so sorry for Heidi and Tim.  And for Heidi's family, who did not start this mess.  Jill and Dave really went  the wrong direction in this fight.

[GeeGolly]

Nurie's post, which also missed the point, is an understandable defense for her mom until she threw this in:

There is truly a war going on in our country, between right and wrong, but PRAISE the LORD we are on the winning side.

That is such a Jill statement. Apple doesn't fall far...

[beckie]

We all know she will MAKE Timothy defend her and her actions ASAP. Even if he doesn't want to.

[AstridM]

1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

This is true. But Nurie and Kaylee did not have there own social media accts when they got married and as far as we know had not told mama they would handle making their own posts with what information they wanted to share.

Tim and Heidi have made that decision and Jill has made a point of telling us just that.

Brianne also reactivated her fb for a hot minute to support Mrs Jill.  Wonder how Brianne will feel when Mrs Jill films her privates in the delivery room and tells a graphic story of her giving birth and TMI postpartum info.

 

Brigot can fuck right off.

[CalicoKitty]

Jill must really be in a panic.  Two of her sons have chosen their own way instead of being obedient to Mama.  One chooses to follow his heart, and one leaves home and follows "false" doctrine.  This is destroying her reputation of being the perfect mother to a perfect family (in her mind), so she will resort to trying to prove how much better than everyone else she is.  I don't think we have seen anything yet.  She needs to have the last word, but I think she has met her match.

[crazy8s]

13 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Jill must really be in a panic.  Two of her sons have chosen their own way instead of being obedient to Mama.  One chooses to follow his heart, and one leaves home and follows "false" doctrine.  This is destroying her reputation of being the perfect mother to a perfect family (in her mind), so she will resort to trying to prove how much better than everyone else she is.  I don't think we have seen anything yet.  She needs to have the last word, but I think she has met her match.

Also Nurie, the angel sent from heaven to their family, and Nathan seem to have drawn a hard line on letting mama make some dramatic post of Naomi's birth and The Hill family has all but vanished from social media. Both their own posts and Jill's posts.

Edited September 21 by crazy8s

[AstridM]

40 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Nothing like pouring gasoline on a fire.  Jill and Dave may have met their match with  Heidi's family; at least I hope so.  I really feel so sorry for Heidi and Tim.  And for Heidi's family, who did not start this mess.  Jill and Dave really went  the wrong direction in this fight.

Right? She could have just quietly removed the offending post and moved on . . . 

40 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

 

Edited September 21 by AstridM

[ginger90]

4 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Nurie’s reply on David’s post:

 

“Thank you Daddy and Mama, for always being such a refreshment to my soul! Thank you for lovingly standing for truth and righteousness.  It is such a beautiful thing when a young couple save themselves for each other and choose to save there first kiss for there wedding day. It is such a good testimony and I don't know why anyone would put that down or act ashamed of that. It was so special for Nathan and I to share our first kiss on our wedding day and nothing I would be ashamed to share.  Our goal in life should be to bring God glory and I am so thankful for parents who have strived to do that their whole lives.  There is truly a war going on in our country, between right and wrong,  but PRAISE the LORD we are on the winning side.  I am so thankful for God's goodness in my life and the wonderful family I have. Keep standing strong! 💗”

Jill’s response:

Nurie Keller , thank you, sweetheart.  <3  I am thankful that our children allow us to share this decision and purity with others.  It is such a great testimony!  Daddy and I and all 3 of my sisters also shared our 1st kiss on our wedding day, and we were thrilled to share that with others.  😁  Thank you for your sweet spirit, love and support darling daughter.  ❤️  Daddy and I appreciate you (and your family) more than you will ever know!  🥰🥰

 

[Notabug]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Jill’s response:

Nurie Keller , thank you, sweetheart.  <3  I am thankful that our children allow us to share this decision and purity with others.  It is such a great testimony!  Daddy and I and all 3 of my sisters also shared our 1st kiss on our wedding day, and we were thrilled to share that with others.  😁  Thank you for your sweet spirit, love and support darling daughter.  ❤️  Daddy and I appreciate you (and your family) more than you will ever know!  🥰🥰

 

And, there she goes... Jill, her sisters and both her married daughters bragged about not kissing their husbands before marriage, hence it is right and just for Jill to share the same information about Tim and Heidi.  Jill's way is the only way and they are wrong to not want Tim's mother to share their personal information with the world.  Jill is right, they are wrong, she wins.  She always wins-in her own mind.

[ranchgirl]

I bet Jill is texting Tim 4x a day on his honeymoon over this too.  

I do feel for Tim and Heidi, this is not a good way to start off a marriage.  I wish Jill would think of that before dying on her sword.  

I also don't think Tim is too far removed from his mom.  Most of the changes lately were done probably at the request of his new wife, not so much to dismiss his mom.  Afterall, he did stay pure until his wedding day like his mom and dad told him too.  All this bickering now between the two families has to be heavy on both Tim and Heidi's hearts.  

[AstridM]

13 minutes ago, ranchgirl said:

I bet Jill is texting Tim 4x a day on his honeymoon over this too.  

I do feel for Tim and Heidi, this is not a good way to start off a marriage.  I wish Jill would think of that before dying on her sword.  

I also don't think Tim is too far removed from his mom.  Most of the changes lately were done probably at the request of his new wife, not so much to dismiss his mom.  Afterall, he did stay pure until his wedding day like his mom and dad told him too.  All this bickering now between the two families has to be heavy on both Tim and Heidi's hearts.  

Hopefully Tim has his phone off and is staying off SM.

[Westiepeach]

And here we were all just worried about Jilly showing up in white and/or in a wheelchair for the wedding. I must say she really outdid herself with this stunt.

I was reading the comments on Hunk's FB post about the "backlash" and every single person is totally missing the point. Sheesh.

Edited September 21 by Westiepeach

[PradaKitty]

Let’s see… as an attorney I have never backed up any argument with scripture, nor have I ever been asked to. 
David, this is a PRIVATE MATTER between your son and his wife. Let’s see if I can make this easier for you…. Tell us all about your sex with Jill. Tell us how many times you had sex with someone other than Jill prior to your marriage. THAT is sharing too much information! 
And by the way, how is sex prior to marriage an abomination but sex after marriage is giving glory to God?! You can parrot all the scripture you want, but you need to actually understand what you have read. 

 

[BradandJanet]

In a way, this reminds me of the blowup between the Rods and their church in New York several years ago.

Jill started her holier than thou criticisms against church members who weren't following the correct doctrine (the Rods' idea of it, anyway), the church leaders argued back, David weighed in, Bible in hand shouting verses to prove J&D were RIGHT, Jill started crying to her children about how everyone was being so mean to her, and the church leaders held their ground.

Jill, David, and their bunch of kids, left the church, and moved to West Virginia.

The congregation (probably) cheered and went on with their lives. 

Jill and David live to get into other people's business and shake their stubby fingers in people's faces. They both have a bad combination of no boundaries and delusional superiority. 

Edited September 23 by BradandJanet

[Absolom]

8 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Jill is not going to take over Heidi and Tim's lives and that is going to drive her crazy.

I love that. I think they should go no contact for 30 days after this little Jill oversharing and fit throwing.  Next time 60 days and so on.  Also don't tell her anything that isn't already known.  Let her wait and hear about pregnancies with the rest of the world.  

[beckie]

I'm sure David had many first kisses before Jill. Yet he's her paragon of virtue. 

According to her, them, their way, right or wrong,  is the only way.

[tarheel220]

7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Jill’s response:

  Daddy and I and all 3 of my sisters also shared our 1st kiss on our wedding day, and we were thrilled to share that with others.  😁 

She makes it sound like all five of them shared a kiss on their wedding day.  At least that’s the mental image I got reading that. 🤣

[BradandJanet]

6 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

In a way, this reminds me of the blowup between the Rods and their church in New York several years ago.

Jill started her holier than thou criticisms against church members who weren't following the correct doctrine (the Rods' idea of it, anyway), the church leaders argued back, David weighed in, Bible in hand shouting verses to prove J&D were RIGHT, Jill started crying to her children about how everyone was being so mean to her, and the church leaders held their ground.

Jill, David, and their bunch of kids, left the church, and moved to West Virginia.

The congregation (probably) cheered and went on with their lives. 

Jill and David live to get into other people's business and shake their stubby fingers in people's faces. They both have a bad combination of no boundaries and delusional superiority. 

 

[oliviabenson]

Jill didn’t disappoint me with her antics one bit. She ruined the wedding after all. I truly hope Ellen ditches Jill in the plexus downline. Hurt Jill in the only way she cares: $.

[oliviabenson]

1 hour ago, tarheel220 said:

She makes it sound like all five of them shared a kiss on their wedding day.  At least that’s the mental image I got reading that. 🤣

I thought Daddy implied Tim Noyes! I didn’t even think it was David the hunk!

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, oliviabenson said:

Jill didn’t disappoint me with her antics one bit. She ruined the wedding after all. I truly hope Ellen ditches Jill in the plexus downline. Hurt Jill in the only way she cares: $.

I wonder if Ellen can go over Jill's head and request a new upline. At this point, she needs to separate herself from the toxic sludge that is the Rods. 

[andromeda331]

I don't even know what Dave or Nuri are talking about. I assume they don't either. Dave throws a bunch of scriptures. Nuri talks about a war. What war?

[oliviabenson]

Hugs, Mama. Wtf?! Jill is totally nuts. Bri is into being a Rodrigues cult member. What a strange woman Bri is. Sam is in for a life with 2 mamas isn’t he? Mahmo and mama. Mama Mia!

[Salacious Kitty]

55 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

Hugs, Mama. Wtf?! Jill is totally nuts. Bri is into being a Rodrigues cult member. What a strange woman Bri is. Sam is in for a life with 2 mamas isn’t he? Mahmo and mama. Mama Mia!

Love bombing. Jill is an expert at doing this to sway people. And Bri is impressionable. 

[AstridM]

4 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Hugs, Mama. Wtf?! Jill is totally nuts. Bri is into being a Rodrigues cult member. What a strange woman Bri is. Sam is in for a life with 2 mamas isn’t he? Mahmo and mama. Mama Mia!

[ginger90]

Good morning goodly people. 😁

[crazy8s]

How lucky they had all those worldly phones to have the words to the song. I counted 6. That was without Nathan, Dave and Brianne. If Samuel, the Kellers and the Hills are all there Brianne is with them.

It looks like they might be on the "once a year" vacation.

[satrunrose]

5 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

It looks like they might be on the "once a year" vacation.

Well, it Is so exhausting to be better and holier than everyone around you. 🙄 Just the tears and prayers of Thanksgiving to be born to the best family obviously take a lot out of a person.

[mythoughtis]

Timothy’s FB post about his move and new job has had several additional comments posted since the wedding. Most just congratulate him on the wedding.  However a few are congratulating him on the wedding and include references to the TMI on the purity issue, or advise him to ‘leave and cleave’ for a healthy marriage.  He has responded to a couple of those with ‘Thank you’ without further comment 

Jill appears to have been silent on this issue since David’s response.  Maybe Timothy and Heidi have since made their feelings known to all parties. 

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

It looks like they might be on the "once a year" vacation.

She’s calling this one a “retreat” following the wedding. 

[libgirl2]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

She’s calling this one a “retreat” following the wedding. 

Of course she is but we know it is another vacation. WE were on vacation this week and tomorrow back to work probably until next year when we take a few mini vacations. 

[BradandJanet]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Good morning goodly people. 😁

Jill ordered the Rodlets to gather around her while she sulks and licks her wounds.

Thank you, Gabriel, for your tears of "Thanksgiving" (usually a holiday with a nice meal, but for your special family and guests, a tiny burnt ham and one oddly sliced pineapple) and the song you didn't know. I hope all the Rodlets cried about being born  into a family that centers around a vain woman who has time to sell Plexus, shop, and take vacations, but not a moment to respect and nurture her children. Best Mama Ever feels much, much better now. For the moment, anyway. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Kaylee has broken her silence with a simpering post. No mention of their first kiss, but what great teachers Mahmo and Daddy were. Correction, she mentioned purity.

Of course, Jill replied. 🙄

Edited September 22 by Salacious Kitty

[Salacious Kitty]

[GeeGolly]

OMG, first they're fighting a fight that was never a fight and second they're are fighting a fight that no longer exists. But way to rally the troops JillR.