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15 hours ago, Absolom said:

The red flags are multiplying. I almost had to change churches to get away from an overly pushy guy like that. Fortunately it's a mega parish with multiple weekend services. Anything pushy sets me running.  I want to know what's the rush?

After he asked me out again last night, he messaged me an hour or two later saying “So do you wanna go?” When I didn’t respond he wrote back “Well?” As if that’s going to make me say yes. I don’t understand how he got to his mid 50s and is still so clueless. You don’t keep pushing for answers for a date from someone who isn’t responding. When I asked a guy out several years ago and he declined, I was disappointed but I also didn’t keep badgering him until he agreed to go out or demand an explanation. 

It made me think that just like women have the movie and book “He’s Just Not That Into You,” we need a version for men. Like the reverse of the scene in the movie where Alex tells Gigi that Connor* isn’t going to call her and explains if a guy wants you, he will call. The same should apply to men. If a woman wants to go out with you, she will say yes to your invitation. 

(Not related, but I’ve been rewatching The Resident and almost typed Conrad instead of Connor. 🤣)

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Boy, am I ticked! A temporary cap on a front tooth came off as I started eating dinner. Called the dental office...closed 'til Monday at 8AM. Don't have plans so I'll be hiding out all weekend (all I need is a corncob pipe 😫). I'll call the office when they open and they better have the permanent cap there (it's been 2 weeks). We've got a Xmas dinner party to go to Monday night (only if the permanent cap is installed!) Call the waaaaaaambulance, pleze.

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9 hours ago, Yeah No said:

but are you saying that the dealership said they replaced a part and the second shop found out they didn't do it?

That’s exactly what I was saying. He even gave me the original factory part to take back to the Ford dealership. They said I couldn’t prove where I got the part,  that they would check the car (after it had been replaced by the other garage) to see if a new one had been put in. Since then I have never gone back to that dealership or owned another Ford or any other vehicle that franchise sells/services. It’s alarming that they do this broadly. It’s bad enough that I’m a woman and they try to take advantage of that first, but I do understand cars somewhat and try not to let them bully me. I applaud your husband for trying to be honest when even his employer doesn’t want him to be. 

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On 12/19/2024 at 2:37 PM, Cloud9Shopper said:

I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone reading this who is happy in a relationship with someone where there’s a big age gap but I’m not willing to date someone that much older than me. If he were five or 10 years older than me, that’s one thing, but I can’t see myself being with a guy who is in his mid 50s. And it just feels odd that he keeps asking me to things when I’m not reciprocating. 

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I think you need to be much clearer that you are not interested in dating this guy, not just come up with conflicting schedules. Just tell him outright - "Sorry, but unfortunately if I was interested in dating right now, and I'm not, the age gap between us is too great for me. Thank you so much for the invitations, and have a happy Christmas!". End of story.

I am now seeing a guy who is 15 years older than I am and the age gap is not an issue but we are both senior citizens and have a tremendous amount of things in common. Plus he is a real gentleman, kind and funny, still in great shape and attractive and that is all incredibly hard to find these days!

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GAH!!!  After the site’s certification issue that has the site all kablooie and unable for us to read and post that lasted all day yesterday, now it’s all smooshed and left justified!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Hopedully the behind the scenes tech will be able to rectify it soon after I just reported it in the Bugs and Technical  thread.

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On 12/20/2024 at 5:55 PM, isalicat said:

I think you need to be much clearer that you are not interested in dating this guy, not just come up with conflicting schedules. Just tell him outright - "Sorry, but unfortunately if I was interested in dating right now, and I'm not, the age gap between us is too great for me. ..."

But why mention the age thing at all?  It's irrelevant if someone isn't interested in dating at all.  Mentioning the age thing opens the door to exceptions.

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

GAH!!!  After the site’s certification issue that has the site all kablooie and unable for us to read and post that lasted all day yesterday, now it’s all smooshed and left justified!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Hopedully the behind the scenes tech will be able to rectify it soon after I just reported it in the Bugs and Technical  thread.

I’m glad you reported this. Thanks.  I just signed on and noticed this 

It doesn’t affect me since I stopped working at the grocery store but it’s annoying nonetheless: retail stores being open so late now on Christmas Eve. The store I used to work at is open until 5, but I see our local mall and other grocery stores being open until 6.

It seems ridiculous to me because honestly, sorry, but if you haven’t done your gift shopping by now and don’t have it by maybe 12 noon or 1:00 on Christmas Eve, forget it. Go without. Especially since a lot of earlier church services and Masses start at 3 or 4:00. I recognize not everyone goes to church and some people are of other religions that don’t celebrate Christmas, but if I had it my way, the stores would be shut down by 2:00 at the latest or not open at all. Give the retail or food service workers a break for most of the day and plan better. They shouldn’t have to work until early evening on the day of our biggest holiday after the abuse they’ve taken for the last month. You likely don’t desperately need to be at Kohl’s or the mall at 3 pm on Christmas Eve. 

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I agree. Unless it's an emergency or you need some food, there is no logical reason any store that sells stuff that aren't basic necessities needs to stay open at ridiculous hours on the holidays. Let the retail workers go home and be with their families, they deserve it. 

My mom used to work retail, and she always got a kick out of it when she'd be working on a holiday and some customer would come in and be like, "I think it's just awful they make you guys work on the holidays."

Meanwhile, my mom's just standing there looking at the customer and thinking, "Gosh, if only there was an obvious solution to that problem staring us both in the face here.." 

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On 12/15/2024 at 7:59 PM, Dimity said:

However tonight I noticed The Sound of Music was on and decided to have it on in the background as I did other things

And one other thing about watching The Sound of Music on ABC--those damn lemurs or whatever jumping up in the bottom left corner periodically, not to mention the ABC that was always down in the right corner, sometimes with a snowflake appearing around it.

It shows such disrespect for the content and the viewer.   The only good thing I can say about it is that I watched it over the air, so they can't count me among their viewers, and I therefore did not vote "YES" to "Do you want to watch movies with a ton of commercials and unrelated shit going on on the screen?"

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1 hour ago, Cloud9Shopper said:

It doesn’t affect me since I stopped working at the grocery store but it’s annoying nonetheless: retail stores being open so late now on Christmas Eve. The store I used to work at is open until 5, but I see our local mall and other grocery stores being open until 6.

It seems ridiculous to me because honestly, sorry, but if you haven’t done your gift shopping by now and don’t have it by maybe 12 noon or 1:00 on Christmas Eve, forget it. Go without. Especially since a lot of earlier church services and Masses start at 3 or 4:00. I recognize not everyone goes to church and some people are of other religions that don’t celebrate Christmas, but if I had it my way, the stores would be shut down by 2:00 at the latest or not open at all. Give the retail or food service workers a break for most of the day and plan better. They shouldn’t have to work until early evening on the day of our biggest holiday after the abuse they’ve taken for the last month. You likely don’t desperately need to be at Kohl’s or the mall at 3 pm on Christmas Eve. 

 

 

That sounds about right, at least in my city. Stores closing around 6 on Christmas Eve, Considering these same stores were closing at 8, 9 and sometimes 10 pm during the holiday season. When I worked at the bank we closed at 2 pm

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

I agree. Unless it's an emergency or you need some food, there is no logical reason any store that sells stuff that aren't basic necessities needs to stay open at ridiculous hours on the holidays. Let the retail workers go home and be with their families, they deserve it. 

My mom used to work retail, and she always got a kick out of it when she'd be working on a holiday and some customer would come in and be like, "I think it's just awful they make you guys work on the holidays."

Meanwhile, my mom's just standing there looking at the customer and thinking, "Gosh, if only there was an obvious solution to that problem staring us both in the face here.." 

 

 

 I had long left retail by this point but I remember being so pissed when they used to have black Friday starting on Thanksgiving Day. I remember working those long hours during the holiday season and back then, black Friday was nuts. Let those workers have that ONE day. They already have to go in early due to black Friday. I thought it was the most selfish thing. 

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11 minutes ago, Mrsmaul2021 said:

 I had long left retail by this point but I remember being so pissed when they used to have black Friday starting on Thanksgiving Day. I remember working those long hours during the holiday season and back then, black Friday was nuts. Let those workers have that ONE day. They already have to go in early due to black Friday. I thought it was the most selfish thing. 

Not only has my mom worekd retail, but so has everyone else in my family at some point, and we all absolutely LOATHED the Black Friday commercials that would bombard TV as Thanksgiving rolled around. Especially the ones that would announce that the stores would open and the deals woult begin on Thanksgiving itself. Because god forbid anyone wait an entire day to go to a store and start buying their Christmas gifts and let people have a chance to enjoy a day off at home. 

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I am cooking a turkey that I felt smelt a little off but that my husband insists is "just fine".  I have no intention of eating it and luckily it is meant for our dinner tonight and it's just the two of us.  I do understand his reluctance to throw out a turkey but if he gets sick I am reserving the right to say "I told you so".  Often.

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Peeve #1:  I'm a little congested, and while I was trying to take a nap earlier, I kept waking myself up with my own snoring.  It's bad enough when someone else wakes you up with their snoring, but I ought to be able to sleep through my own!

 

Peeve #2:  When you get to the end of a book, only to discover that it is a part one.  Nowhere in the description, review, or jacket blurb was there any indication that this was a part one.  Corollary peeve -- part two hasn't been published yet!

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Not sure this is a peeve but more something bitter sweet I experienced on Christmas Eve.  Went to Mass at the former middle school I used to go too.

Nice service- not too long and felt meaningful 

 

But at the same time it made me realize lots have changed about where I grew up- I did not recognize or know anyone at all at the service.  Late 90's is when I graduated middle school so in essence it's really not too terribly long ago. 

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On 12/22/2024 at 3:54 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

But why mention the age thing at all?  It's irrelevant if someone isn't interested in dating at all.  Mentioning the age thing opens the door to exceptions.

That's almost exactly what I was going to say. I don't think she should give any explanation because it opens the door just enough to have a foot shoved in it, and that's the last thing you want. Just say, "I'm sorry, I'm just not interested". Period, the end. Don't even tell him you're not interested in dating right now because to a lot of men that only sounds like a challenge to get you to want to date and to date THEM.

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2 hours ago, BlueSkies said:

Not sure this is a peeve but more something bitter sweet I experienced on Christmas Eve.  Went to Mass at the former middle school I used to go too.

Nice service- not too long and felt meaningful 

 

But at the same time it made me realize lots have changed about where I grew up- I did not recognize or know anyone at all at the service.  Late 90's is when I graduated middle school so in essence it's really not too terribly long ago. 

Nearly thirty years ago?

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On 12/24/2024 at 1:07 PM, Dimity said:

I am cooking a turkey that I felt smelt a little off but that my husband insists is "just fine".  I have no intention of eating it and luckily it is meant for our dinner tonight and it's just the two of us.  I do understand his reluctance to throw out a turkey but if he gets sick I am reserving the right to say "I told you so".  Often.

So did he get sick? Just asking for a friend.

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3 hours ago, BlueSkies said:

But at the same time it made me realize lots have changed about where I grew up- I did not recognize or know anyone at all at the service.  Late 90's is when I graduated middle school so in essence it's really not too terribly long ago. 

In 2002 I went to the memorial service for the brother of a coworker that died in the World Trade Center on September 11. It was held in the auditorium at my old junior high school in the Bronx because he grew up across the street and they were renaming the street after him. It was a weird and unsettling experience because I had not been back there since I graduated in 1973. Absolutely nothing and no one was anything like it was when I went there. It was a rough school back when I went there. I later found out that the school closed in 2007 for "poor performance" and is now "The New School for Leadership and the Arts", also a middle school. It looks like this is a positive change but again, very different from my experience. Changes like this are common after so many years.

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My peeve this time of the year is people who insist Christmas is a Christian holiday only and can't be celebrated secularly if you're an atheist. As an atheist who loves Christmas, I wish them a very Go Fuck Yourself day.

I get that some people don't like Christmas and take it badly when it shows up everywhere at this time of the year, I don't mind criticism of that. I also get that some people don't like Christianity (I don't either and I used to be one), or atheism, but this isn't even about that, the people I am complaining about just enjoy writing shitpost after shitpost with the general message being: "Tee hee, people who say they celebrate Christmas secularly are so funny, just admit it is a Christian holiday and you are culturally Christian, or call your holiday something else. Christmas has Christ in it, dumbass." 

First of all, the last point would not be an issue if they took a few minutes to acknowledge that not everybody in the world speaks English and that some of us have completely different words for the holiday that have no religious origin and only use the English term for their convenience in international spaces. Also, the origin of the holiday and many traditions that are related to it is in the pre-Christian celebrations of Winter solstice that were common for every culture in every place that has four-season climate. It's not our fault that the early Christians appropriated so much of it and forcibly replaced it with their religious holidays, just like they did with other holidays. There isn't anything religious about gift-giving, decorating a tree, family eating together, etc.

Also, I really hate the term "culturally Christian". It's even more funny that this is used by people who consider themselves progressive and who would throw a fit if anyone else tried to force an identity on other people who don't identify that way, in any other context.  

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I am a Christian and it's my pet peeve when people become alienated from religion altogether because of how people have corrupted it. I don't blame anyone for not belonging to a church and going to church. I don't blame anyone for hating what some people have done to warp the message of Christianity and use it to serve their own egos. What bugs me is when people turn their backs on the message of Christianity because of what some people have done to corrupt it. There's a distinct difference and distinction between faith and religion. I am a person of faith but if by "religious" you mean adhering to a way of practicing religion and joining and participating in churches, I am not religious in that sense. I have my own "church" in my heart and that's all I need.

I don't blame anyone for attending church if that works for them and if they can find a church that isn't offensive to them in any way, though. The closest I know to that is the church I was raised in, the Episcopal faith. Unfortunately few people even know what that is anymore and have all kinds of mistaken presumptions about it. And that's another pet peeve of mine. The worst corrupters and the most extreme examples of Christianity draw all attention to themselves and ruin it for the others. And meanwhile the Episcopal faith is literally dying and beauty and truth are being lost in the process. But even in the Episcopal church you find big egos and narcissists and that's one reason I stopped going to church. I realize that not all churches have people like that in charge but I was so demoralized by my experience that I have no desire to go back. But that hasn't stopped me from keeping my faith in my heart. I feel like a lot of people turn away from faith altogether and become atheists or agnostics because of what other people have done to warp religion. But faith is ultimately not about what other people tell you it should be (or you should be), but about one's relationship with God and the meaning it brings to their lives.

So I say screw what everyone else does, but don't confuse the corruption of religion with the beauty and truth you can find in your own faith. In the end, that's between you and God alone and doesn't need to depend on what other people tell you it should be. And you don't have to accept anyone's preconceived idea of what God is or wants from you either. Ultimately Christians believe in a loving God and that is up to your interpretation of what "loving" is. And I am fully aware of the fact that there is a lot of non-loving stuff attributed to God by people that warp Christianity, but again, the way God is loving is up to you to interpret for yourself. You don't have to accept anyone else's interpretation of what "loving" means in order to call yourself a Christian and keep faith in your heart.

Just my opinion, not directed at anyone in particular!

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12 hours ago, BlueSkies said:

But at the same time it made me realize lots have changed about where I grew up- I did not recognize or know anyone at all at the service.  Late 90's is when I graduated middle school so in essence it's really not too terribly long ago.

I grew up in a very small town and graduated in '85. I knew everyone, even if I didn't know them well, I would recognize familiar faces or names. I've been gone from there since '87. It is strange to go back there now (my parents still live there), I know no one. My parents will mention names that I have no idea about. It is a natural transition, families move on, kids settle in other areas, it's just a strange feeling to see another family living in my best friend's old house.  

40 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

don't confuse the corruption of religion with the beauty and truth you can find in your own faith. In the end, that's between you and God alone and doesn't need to depend on what other people tell you

Thank you for saying this. I was raised Catholic but no longer practice the religion, do I still talk to God? Every day. Are my parents disappointed that I no longer go to church?  Sure, but I don't need to sit in a church to feel better about myself. 

My pet peeve today: thinking I would have an easy commute to work with so many people being remote or off for the holiday week, but no, there was an accident, and the expressway is backed up, leaving me to creep along in deadlock for 45 minutes for what is normally a 20 minute drive. Do the sheriffs/pd sit at entrance ramps and direct you to an alternate route? Nope. Instead everyone is still piling up on entrance ramps hoping to squeeze in. No way to turn around at that point so it just gets worse and worse. I don't listen to local radio, I do podcasts or Sirius XM to avoid the annoying local morning shows so I did not get a traffic report either. Ugh. 

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@Yeah No This is what I don't get.  You'd think that our current rhetoric of equality and inclusion, that people who want some faith would FLOCK to Episcopal/Anglican churches.  High church services are BEAUTIFUL with just the RIGHT amount of tradition.  I really don't understand.  Maybe we need a TV show about an Anglican/Episcopal priest or something.  Anyone know anyone at Neflix?

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12 hours ago, PRgal said:

@Yeah No This is what I don't get.  You'd think that our current rhetoric of equality and inclusion, that people who want some faith would FLOCK to Episcopal/Anglican churches.  High church services are BEAUTIFUL with just the RIGHT amount of tradition.  I really don't understand.  Maybe we need a TV show about an Anglican/Episcopal priest or something.  Anyone know anyone at Neflix?

Thank you I wonder the same things. I think the problem is that the church doesn't call attention to itself the way the "proselytizing" religions do. It's not in anyone's face because it's "live and let live". So in our society that means no one sees it and it becomes eclipsed by the biggest mouths. If all you see are the Christians and churches that are bigots, racists, misogynists, homophobes, etc. you might not ever know there's any alternative. And that's bad for Christianity in general too because then it gets identified with those offensive things.

I went to an Anglo-Episcopalian church for years and sang in the choir. It was a very moving and beautiful service and the music program was fantastic.

Do you remember the show "God Friended Me" that was on a few years back? The father of one of the main characters was an Episcopal Priest. I loved that show but unfortunately I think the pandemic had something to do with its cancellation. I don't think it was axed for ratings. By the middle of season 2 it was obvious that they knew they had to wrap things up quickly and the plot suffered as a result. I still miss it!

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14 hours ago, PRgal said:

@Yeah No This is what I don't get.  You'd think that our current rhetoric of equality and inclusion, that people who want some faith would FLOCK to Episcopal/Anglican churches.  High church services are BEAUTIFUL with just the RIGHT amount of tradition.  I really don't understand.  Maybe we need a TV show about an Anglican/Episcopal priest or something.  Anyone know anyone at Neflix?

There’s the British show about priests who solve murders.  Grantchester.  

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On 12/27/2024 at 11:10 AM, PRgal said:

@Yeah No This is what I don't get.  You'd think that our current rhetoric of equality and inclusion, that people who want some faith would FLOCK to Episcopal/Anglican churches.  High church services are BEAUTIFUL with just the RIGHT amount of tradition.  I really don't understand.  Maybe we need a TV show about an Anglican/Episcopal priest or something.  Anyone know anyone at Neflix?

You mean like Fleabag?

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On 12/28/2024 at 12:03 AM, JustHereForFood said:

Also, I really hate the term "culturally Christian". It's even more funny that this is used by people who consider themselves progressive and who would throw a fit if anyone else tried to force an identity on other people who don't identify that way, in any other context.  

feminist movement messaging and tactics when attempting to reach out and work with boys and men to liberate them from gender roles - like girls have been shown what more they can do - have been wrong - but they have never dropped them and looked for ones that would work in the last 5 decades. E.g. you have the problem of what has happened with CPR and women with heart emergencies -- reported in the Australian ABC article below -- blaming men for the higher rates of women dying in public ("my life is more important than my boobs") - instead of blaming the feminist movement's campaigning on consent and sexual harassment that caused many boys and men to be too frightened of a day in court and jail to intervene.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2023-10-06/women-less-likely-to-receive-bystander-cpr-than-men/102937012

8 minutes ago, tearknee said:

feminist movement messaging and tactics when attempting to reach out and work with boys and men to liberate them from gender roles - like girls have been shown what more they can do - have been wrong - but they have never dropped them and looked for ones that would work in the last 5 decades. E.g. you have the problem of what has happened with CPR and women with heart emergencies -- reported in the Australian ABC article below -- blaming men for the higher rates of women dying in public ("my life is more important than my boobs") - instead of blaming the feminist movement's campaigning on consent and sexual harassment that caused many boys and men to be too frightened of a day in court and jail to intervene.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2023-10-06/women-less-likely-to-receive-bystander-cpr-than-men/102937012

So we should just put up with sexual harassment? 

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On 12/27/2024 at 11:10 AM, PRgal said:

@Yeah No This is what I don't get.  You'd think that our current rhetoric of equality and inclusion, that people who want some faith would FLOCK to Episcopal/Anglican churches.  High church services are BEAUTIFUL with just the RIGHT amount of tradition.  I really don't understand.  Maybe we need a TV show about an Anglican/Episcopal priest or something.  Anyone know anyone at Neflix?

As someone who became a Christian (I have 100% Jewish ancestry but my parents are ardent atheists) by entering the Episcopal Church and spending 20 years there in very active ministry, I do agree that the Episcopal/Anglican liturgy is very beautiful and has the best "language" (and I've been to every denomination there is). I left for the Roman Catholic Church 25 years ago because the rhetoric of equality and inclusion and social awareness et al had completely overshadowed the purpose of faith (in my opinion, of course), which is following Jesus Christ as the source of saving grace, even when it is at odds with popular thought and modern society. One's faith is supposed to be challenging and make you less ego-filled and more servant like. My peeve: (yes, I know this is tremendously un-popular) When people want their religion to bend to their own agenda (whatever that may be). You might as well just go to brunch on Sunday morning for all the good that will do you.

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1 hour ago, isalicat said:

As someone who became a Christian (I have 100% Jewish ancestry but my parents are ardent atheists) by entering the Episcopal Church and spending 20 years there in very active ministry, I do agree that the Episcopal/Anglican liturgy is very beautiful and has the best "language" (and I've been to every denomination there is). I left for the Roman Catholic Church 25 years ago because the rhetoric of equality and inclusion and social awareness et al had completely overshadowed the purpose of faith (in my opinion, of course), which is following Jesus Christ as the source of saving grace, even when it is at odds with popular thought and modern society. One's faith is supposed to be challenging and make you less ego-filled and more servant like. My peeve: (yes, I know this is tremendously un-popular) When people want their religion to bend to their own agenda (whatever that may be). You might as well just go to brunch on Sunday morning for all the good that will do you.

And you can get good booze at Sunday brunch.  #sorrynotsorry 

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I grew up in a family of church organists and choir singers- my dad and three of my grandparents (one has his doctorate in music). My dad always played as a side hustle but for the longest time he played in a churches that were over an hour away. Growing up we spent a lot of time going to different denominations. One of my favorite was Moravian. Most of our time we went to a Lutheran church. But you are talking two young kids, having to attend choir practices, every “extra” service that ever existed and a two hour round trip. My life was taken up by church not to mention my family could be considered pearl clutchers. My parents have eased up a bit though they are still heavily involved in church and my dad still plays organ as a side gig. They now attend an Episcopal church which I have attended a few times. 
My dad doesn’t say anything to me but my mom won’t leave me alone about going to church. I have three kids, work and like to sleep in on the weekends. Not go to church. When we were kids and visited family out of town we always had to go to church. I’m just over it. 
 

Edited to add- in high school (and still now) I played flute and it was expected of me to play preludes and postludes and even whole services with my dad. He hasn’t asked me in a few years mainly because I have gotten too busy to play anymore but as recent as three years ago we played a service together. I like playing music with my dad but I don’t like audiences.

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52 minutes ago, Mountainair said:

I grew up in a family of church organists and choir singers- my dad and three of my grandparents (one has his doctorate in music). My dad always played as a side hustle but for the longest time he played in a churches that were over an hour away. Growing up we spent a lot of time going to different denominations. One of my favorite was Moravian. Most of our time we went to a Lutheran church. But you are talking two young kids, having to attend choir practices, every “extra” service that ever existed and a two hour round trip. My life was taken up by church not to mention my family could be considered pearl clutchers. My parents have eased up a bit though they are still heavily involved in church and my dad still plays organ as a side gig. They now attend an Episcopal church which I have attended a few times. 
My dad doesn’t say anything to me but my mom won’t leave me alone about going to church. I have three kids, work and like to sleep in on the weekends. Not go to church. When we were kids and visited family out of town we always had to go to church. I’m just over it. 
 

Edited to add- in high school (and still now) I played flute and it was expected of me to play preludes and postludes and even whole services with my dad. He hasn’t asked me in a few years mainly because I have gotten too busy to play anymore but as recent as three years ago we played a service together. I like playing music with my dad but I don’t like audiences.

My husband is a church organist and plays at an Episcopal church in another town but only as a fill-in, although he had to stop doing that recently because he has work with his main job on Sundays now. Ironically, he drives the mother-in-law of his boss to church.

We both sang in choirs for years. I got burned out on church when I was asked to do everything and then some and there was some friction between opposing "factions". Our priest died and the new one wasn't very nice to anyone. He was focused on attracting rich people to the church to keep it afloat. I get why that was necessary but did he have to act like everyone that didn't have money was not welcome anymore? It really got me down so I left and never went back. But truth be told, working full time, running a home, having other responsibilities and trying to fit in a social life got to be a lot after a while. Episcopal churches tend to want you to get involved in church activities and business and that plus the choir and the church friction/politics at the time it was too much for me after a while.

My husband's new church is not like the other one at all and he keeps telling me how I would probably like it but even though I am retired I am just so over being tied down to something like that anymore. I do miss singing in the choir, though.

We are going to Scottsdale, AZ this Summer to an organist convention, which should be fun.

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I've got this self imposed rule where I only resort to google after racking my brain until it hurts trying to remember the name of some random musician or actor or whatever.  My pet peeve is did I really need to know Fatboy Slim's real name?  At midnight?  Apparently I did because I kept myself awake for over an hour before I cracked and looked it up.  Oddly knowing his real name has not changed my life in any appreciable way.

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17 hours ago, Yeah No said:

We are going to Scottsdale, AZ this Summer to an organist convention, which should be fun.

What do they do at an organist's convention?  I'm dying to know?  Do people take turns playing?  Do they discuss new hymns?  Do they get to play on gigantic special organs? 

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Sports writers.  The Canadians are are competing in the World Juniors (hockey) and according to the headline I just read they "eked out a win" over Germany.  It was a shut out, as in 3-0.  In what world is that "eking" out a win.  I know we Canadians have a reputation for self deprecation but this is ridiculous!

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