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6 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

For the rest of his life, Hook will need to keep proving himself to Emma and her family.

 

I mean, for a 300-year-old pirate who spent most of those years as a villain, it's kind of fitting that he continually has to prove himself and work hard for his happy ending because that's a lot of bad karma to overcome. But on a show where the REC exists and villains get happy endings all the time without much effort at all, it's incredibly frustrating. 

On the bright side, if Hook is trading the Jolly Roger to Blackbeard in order to get back to Emma, maybe the writers finally heard our complaints about never seeing Hook's original 3B adventure on screen, so they're kind of recreating what Hook already went through to make up for it.

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1 hour ago, sharky said:

Those Bex photos are from Saturday so I don't know how last minute that is. An extra day? Meh. But if they shot over the weekend and are still shooting today, it's a little weird.

But it isn't weird, they go past film dates all the time.  What was weird was Jenn saying she hasn't wrapped on the season and promptly taking off for New Orleans.  I'm guessing she just has voice work left.

Colin may not be traveling with his wife's pregnancy but he usually doesn't take off right after the filming ends either.

I'm also not sure why a statue of snow and charming in front of the studio means the show is over?

Obviously ABC knows what they're going to do, I wish they'd just let us know.

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20 minutes ago, Curio said:

I mean, for a 300-year-old pirate who spent most of those years as a villain, it's kind of fitting that he continually has to prove himself and work hard for his happy ending because that's a lot of bad karma to overcome.

That may be fine for a friendship or for allies. Not for marriage. If Hook needs to keep proving the purity of his love and trustworthiness to his wife and her family everytime he makes a mistake, or his past comes back to bite him, that's going to make for a piss-poor marriage. I love the fact that Hook actually feels bad about his past, and works to correct them, but that doesn't mean he needs to grovel to the Charmings for the rest of his life.

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11 minutes ago, mjgchick said:

To be fair, Emma was mad at him for not trusting her enough to let her in (hypocrite) not for what he did in his past. 

Except David is the one angry at him for what he did in the past and how he lied to him about it as we seen.

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34 minutes ago, mjgchick said:

To be fair, Emma was mad at him for not trusting her enough to let her in (hypocrite) not for what he did in his past. 

But it was tied to his past. And now he has to prove that he wasn't going to abandon her by trading in the Jolly Roger again. 

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I just mean she isn't judging him for what he did in his past. His secret could've been recent and she'd still get angry because she's a hypocrite when it comes to people keeping secrets. Davids the one who seems to judge people when it comes to their past.

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I don't think he needs to trade his ship to prove to Emma that he didn't abandon her. He did that. The Jolly better not end up in Blackbeard's hands again. He's not nice to her. She deserves better.

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53 minutes ago, KAOS Agent said:

I don't think he needs to trade his ship to prove to Emma that he didn't abandon her. He did that.

And he's doing that again. On a meta level this is the exact same thing as 3B. Hook proved that he changed and was no longer a ~pirate by trading the Jolly Roger for a chance to see Emma and reunite her with her family. That's what reassured Emma that Hook wasn't going to betray her like Neal and Walsh, and she kissed him. 

Now that his broken past bit Hook in the ass again, it's a repetition of the same narrative device to have him trade the Jolly Roger to be reunited with Emma. He even told Jasmine that he was now happy with a life away from the sea becasue of love (paraphrasing). That was likely foreshadowing about the JR. Poor Hook. By the time the series is done, there's going to be nothing left of his identity. He wears modern clothes, and is going to be deputy sheriff to Emma. As someone on tumblr put it, he's now separated from his family, from his friends, and now he'll be parting with his ship (again). He's going to become an extension of Emma and his only connections are people who don't trust him, and half the time don't seem to even like him, depending on their mood. 

Meanwhile, Regina still has her vault of hearts.

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7 hours ago, mjgchick said:

I just mean she isn't judging him for what he did in his past. His secret could've been recent and she'd still get angry because she's a hypocrite when it comes to people keeping secrets. Davids the one who seems to judge people when it comes to their past.

And he has the right to judge enemies for what happened and what they did in the past. Especially when it involves his family members who he's been lied about. This is reality.

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8 hours ago, scenicbyway said:

But it isn't weird, they go past film dates all the time.  What was weird was Jenn saying she hasn't wrapped on the season and promptly taking off for New Orleans.  I'm guessing she just has voice work left.

Colin may not be traveling with his wife's pregnancy but he usually doesn't take off right after the filming ends either.

I'm also not sure why a statue of snow and charming in front of the studio means the show is over?

Obviously ABC knows what they're going to do, I wish they'd just let us know.

I have no idea when the show has wrapped for the season in the past, but in general it's not unusual for shows that air into May to tape well into April, especially one-hour dramas.  

This current season both How to Get Away with Murder and This Is Us didnt finish taping for the season until about two weeks before their finales aired.  And Castle use to wrap at the very end of April and then air the finale the first or second week of May.  Hell, more than a few times Lost wasn't finished with post for many episodes until literally days before the scheduled air date.

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9 hours ago, Mathius said:

It was his death scene, calling it now.  I can't think of anything else that Robert would go all out on.

Not even if it involves Belle? I mean from that twitter, it was said that Belle is involved even if without seeing her chair.

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Just now, Serena said:

Belle would probably be involved in Rumple's death scene.

Yeah, I was about to say: especially if it involves Belle.  I don't expect Rumple to die without Belle to cry over him and attempt to make us feel sad.

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1 minute ago, Mathius said:

Yeah, I was about to say: especially if it involves Belle.  I don't expect Rumple to die without Belle to cry over him and attempt to make us feel sad.

Okay, but consider this spec: she is frozen in place and/or asleep while he dies. His last words are "Bae, I'm joining you.". Bookmark this for when it airs, because A&E WOULD do this.

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10 minutes ago, Serena said:

Belle would probably be involved in Rumple's death scene.

They need her to be there to collapse in tears, sobbing her heart out, while everyone else stands around awkwardly. Though by this time, the standing around awkwardly would make more sense than it did before, since he's done so much more harm since then. Like, Hook should be barely holding back the "ding dong the witch is dead" dance out of respect for Belle, but still unable to bring himself to look even slightly sad.

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16 minutes ago, Shanna Marie said:

Belle would probably be involved in Rumple's death scene.

I don't see his story ending with Rumpel dying as the Dark One, so I still think it's on track for Belle to break the curse with a TLK in his dying moments so he can go to The Good Place with Baelfire. Plus, that's the scenario that would really twist the metaphorical dagger into the kidneys of the last dozen or so Rumbelle fans, because it's the weakest form of romantic payoff.

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1 hour ago, Amerilla said:

I don't see his story ending with Rumpel dying as the Dark One, so I still think it's on track for Belle to break the curse with a TLK in his dying moments so he can go to The Good Place with Baelfire. Plus, that's the scenario that would really twist the metaphorical dagger into the kidneys of the last dozen or so Rumbelle fans, because it's the weakest form of romantic payoff.

With Auntie Em and Milah still trapped in the River of Lost Souls, it's only fair that Rump join Cora in heaven.

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27 minutes ago, Tiger said:

With Auntie Em and Milah still trapped in the River of Lost Souls, it's only fair that Rump join Cora in heaven.

Thanks, I had managed to forget about that. 

I wanna say it would be poetic/right for Rumple to die saving/helping Neal 2.0, Take 2; do we have any info on the actor also potentially being there?

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Possibly historic moment in the promo pics: Belle is wearing pants. Like, slacks. I think that's a first.

At least Emilie avoided Ginny's fate and the costumers didn't go Full Frump on Belle's wardrobe after she spawned. 

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32 minutes ago, Amerilla said:

Possibly historic moment in the promo pics: Belle is wearing pants. Like, slacks. I think that's a first.

At least Emilie avoided Ginny's fate and the costumers didn't go Full Frump on Belle's wardrobe after she spawned. 

Pretty sure she wore them in The Outsider when she was still awesome and went on her adventure and Mulan.

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8 minutes ago, RulerofallIsurvey said:

It's nice that Snow is with Emma when they're talking to/confronting Gold and Belle at least.

Really! When was the last time we had Emma and Snow together without David, Regina or Hook? I guess that 30 second scene before the ball last season. I'm hopeful for more interactions between them - I seem to recall several filming spoilers that had them together in the upcoming eps. I just wish it didn't take Hook being banished to another realm for them to give Emma & Snow time together.

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I don't know if I am pro season 7 necessarily, but happy they filmed together. Still holding out hope for Emma's happily ever after to be the last scene if the series is ending. I know, I know . . .

My biggest regret about this possibly being the end is that these might be our last filming based spoilers.

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Just now, daxx said:

I. Just.can't.

 

He can't take off his earphones to ask Emma how she is doing when she's grieving the loss of her true love, but Regina he asks how she's doing? The REC in full force.

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47 minutes ago, daxx said:

He can't take off his earphones to ask Emma how she is doing when she's grieving the loss of her true love, but Regina he asks how she's doing?

Clap your hands and BELIEVE!  Believe that Henry knew it was much ado about nothing as far as Hook leaving, and that's why he wasn't concerned.  

Until, of course, next time he calls him a 'dirty pirate' or some such...probably in this episode in his conversation with Regina.  

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9 hours ago, cappoe said:

JMO and Colin filmed together on the last day of s6 filming. Hopefully on to S7 with the both of them.

They were not the only ones apparently. It seems Ginny was there too and has filmed with them too. And maybe this is for a different scene.

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Lastest rumor as it is R.C  has signed and is coming back but they have not asked Emily to renew it is from well know rumbeller saying she as a source. 

 

Now, it is just another rumor but I remember the rumor about R.C not going to comic con that I the time not believe because I was sure the cast was obligate to go that turn out to be truth so... 

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Speaking of Rumors, someone said that she or he read some tweets about that some of the actors may leave the show, and that the negotiations news was to throw people off. Basically Jennifer leaves and Rumple is killed off. Feel free not to believe it, it's just a rumor for now, not confirmed. Though with Rumple just rumored to die off, I am wondering if this rumor might be true on him or the other 3 (probably excluding Emma).

And even if they were throwing people off about the negotiation news with the four renewing, I woudn't be surprised. After all, since it was announced that with King George returns, it was told from EW that he will try to come between Snowing again. But it was not true. A throw off.

They did plenty of throw offs with the arrival of new characters from the past seasons and episodes such as Rumple's Mom (Merida) or Sinbad (Aladdin).

They already threw us off about a TLK for Emma and Hook, but it was never true (good thing too for some), it was really for Red/Dorothy and Zelena/Hades. Another throw off.

They threw us off about Liam 2 not appearing this season and not continuing his story, and yet here he is. Another throw off.

And that sounded exactly similar to how they made cover stories and throw offs on Neal and Robin's deaths telling us to have hope.

But like I informed, it is just a rumor. But it might turn out true until then.

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USA Today is a pretty big reliable and respected entertainment source. They're definitely more reliable than the TV ratings websites, set rats, autograph hounds and paparazzi that we seem to be putting so much trust in these days.

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On ‎4‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 6:37 PM, Souris said:

Several of the actors have made rather goodbye-sounding messages, like this one. And there's the fact they packed up props from Steveston when they don't usually. Maybe it's just because they aren't sure of renewal. But I'm starting to wonder if the reboot will take place in the EF and if there will be ANY current cast involved (at least until the ratings really tank and they pimp them out as guest stars).

If there is a reboot rather than cancellation, I'm leaning towards those that don't return are living happily ever after in Storybrooke but there is a spell or inability to realm cross separating those who are in the reboot from going home to Storybrooke. 

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5 hours ago, maryle said:

Lastest rumor as it is R.C  has signed and is coming back but they have not asked Emily to renew it is from well know rumbeller saying she as a source. 

 

Now, it is just another rumor but I remember the rumor about R.C not going to comic con that I the time not believe because I was sure the cast was obligate to go that turn out to be truth so... 

If they're cutting cast for a S7, and they keep boring, long-since-played-out Rumpel, I'm going to be pissed. Half the reason S6 has been such a dud is because Rumpel's storyline pretty much took it over. I haven't cared about that character since S4 really, and went into FF Mode with him at the end of 5A.

I read future episode titles and saw a reference to The Wizard of Oz. I guess Zelena will either go back to Oz or die in that episode (since Rebecca Mader will most likely be one of the actors cut).

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26 minutes ago, KAOS Agent said:

Zelena was seen filming with Pistachio in Storybrooke for the finale, so I don't think she dies. 

Yeah, I don't think she dies, but I doubt Bex is coming back next season.

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Who is Pistachio again?

This show is so terrible about naming the babies that we have to call them something. Pistachio didn't get an actual name for six months.  And Baby Neal is Baby Snowflake because he didn't have a name for a while either. Discussions get confusing by having babies share a name with dead adult characters too so it helps to just go with the initial fan names for the babies.

On the Rumpel discussion, is it possible that he is dying in the present, but would return in a limited capacity for flashbacks? He still works well when he's just flat out crazy Imp!Rumpel and we're not subjected to his present day good/evil flip flopping.

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I guess that would depend if Robert is willing to travel back and forth for guest appearances.  They could always pre-record a bunch of giggles and a few generic lines like "Do you want to make a deal?"  and "It's Baelfire's fault", and then insert it whenever needed in a flashback.

If there is a reboot rather than cancellation, I'm leaning towards those that don't return are living happily ever after in Storybrooke but there is a spell or inability to realm cross separating those who are in the reboot from going home to Storybrooke.

This "reboot" could turn out to be basically a mass layoff.  

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It's nice to see Regina actually fix things that would normally be forgotten. Freeing the Dragon and whatnot. I didn't realize Dr. Doolittle was public domain. This show is trying to namedrop as much as possible this season before it ends. This Henry plot better not be as random as Emma's tremors.

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26 minutes ago, KingOfHearts said:

It's nice to see Regina actually fix things that would normally be forgotten. Freeing the Dragon and whatnot. I didn't realize Dr. Doolittle was public domain. This show is trying to namedrop as much as possible this season before it ends. This Henry plot better not be as random as Emma's tremors.

Henry's condition sure looks like a bad sign. Did you look at the sight of his left eye? It almost looks as though it is a death sentence fate or some sort for him, just like Emma's. For that, I can't help shake the feeling that one or two people might die off just to save them both. Just a rumor and thought. Who knows.

And speaking of Dr. Dolittle, maybe we might see him for the first time on screen soon, including Dracula and the invisible man who were mentioned in episode 2.

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Henry's condition sure looks like a bad sign. Did you look at the sight of his left eye? It almost looks as though it is a death sentence fate or some sort for him, just like Emma's.

To quote Grumpy, "Great, let's watch."

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1 hour ago, KingOfHearts said:

I didn't realize Dr. Doolittle was public domain.

It's too bad we didn't actually get to see Dr. Doolittle get put in a cage by the EQ.  That might have actually made one of her eps interesting - and made her seem like a more serious villian than she came across versus simply mwahahaing or random spa day with Zelena.

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