Small Talk: The Prayer Closet

[AstridM]

20 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Interestingly, House Hunters, where people are really hard on the couples on the show, is running just fine with no lights or shutdowns.  I still think some people signed up just to complain, which brought this unwanted and unneeded attention.  There is no way our usual posters would draw this kind of attention.  I could see this happening on the Shopping Channel shows, too.

Well, there are a couple posters whom I think play both sides, and do want this forum shut down. 🥲 Why they don’t just go elsewhere I have no idea.

[Salacious Kitty]

This stands out to me: 

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- Guidance: Let’s highlight what’s working and improve on what’s not. Constructive, respectful dialogue that values all voices is our goal.

So, what isn't working? How can we improve without this valuable information? What, specifically, are the "complaints?" As it stands now, we're being set up to fail.

Throw us a bone. 

Edited March 2 by Salacious Kitty

[Joan of Argh]

14 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

This stands out to me: 

So, what isn't working? How can we improve without this valuable information? What, specifically, are the "complaints?" As it stands now, we're being set up to fail.

Throw us a bone. 

I’m shocked do they want us to sit here and say shit like, 

“Gee poor Josh Duggar, sitting in that dreary prison cell unable to spend quality time with his lovely wife Anna and their perfect children, maybe it would lessen his burden and brighten his days if we all got together and started a GoFundAPerv for him, get him some snacks and a subscription to a few dirty magazines”

”That Jeremy Vuolo is so darned handsome and his shoe collection is impressive, I can’t wait to attend one of his sermons, he’s such a wonderful speaker and knows his bible like the back of his hand, he has the prettiest wife with the best hair, I just love how she posts endless pics of the back of her kids heads.. That’s Talent with a capital T”

”Don’t get me started on that cute rascal Jim Bob and his gorgeous wife Michelle!”

yuck!

If that’s the new Primetimer I don’t want anything to do with it! 🤢🤮

Edited March 2 by Joan of Argh
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[jcbrown]

I hate the condescending use of the royal "we" in the note about whatever the issues are with the white hot passion of a thousand burning suns.

[dargosmydaddy]

So, the forum of the other big fundie family, which I would say has discussions and thread titles in the same vein as this one-- no red light.

The forum of another TLC family show, which I dip into on occasion and which has a regular poster who makes comments that go beyond snarky and are downright mean (and frequently include foul language)-- no red light.

Are "they" (these silent mods) working their way through all the forums, and this one got picked on first because it's busier/ more populated, and the rest will eventually get red-lighted, too? Or did someone specifically report threads in this forum? What gives?

(Also, the thread here that is the most Duggar-adjacent and has gotten the most snark of late... not locked. I'm mildly amused picturing a Duggar fan/ associate/ actual family member coming in here to report threads, only to leave that one alone because even they know the snark is fully warranted...)

[Salacious Kitty]

Yeah, the Sister Wives forum is a thousand times more "Red !ight" than this one. But that forum is probably a big money maker for PT, so it will never get flagged like this forum did. 

Just an observation.

[EtheltoTillie]

9 hours ago, Girl in a Cardigan said:

Given that my snark meter is pretty high (and been around since the TWOP days), I'm not sure I've ever seen whatever issues they're talking about. If they want us to stop talking about something or someone, they better come out and say it. I see that Josh & Anna topic is locked, so perhaps it was getting "ugly" in there. Being treated like a toddler does NOT make me want to read or post here (which is maybe their point).

This is what I came here to understand. I lurk here sporadically, but I’ve been on the Duggars forums forever. That’s what got me to TWOP before it was TWOP.  I don’t understand what they want us to do to promote diversity.  I don’t want to lose these spaces and all the people I’ve come to recognize over the years. 

[Ancaster]

6 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

When Primetimer shut down for the week, I wondered if it would even come back up.  I enjoy this site.  When my work computer is slow, I spend a few minutes checking in on a couple of boards. If it disappears, I will miss it.  But it would help to have some sort of clear explanation as to what's going on.

Did we have a "conversation" about this on the Primetimer subReddit?  I know I did with someone from here.  😉

[Ancaster]

6 hours ago, Madtown said:

 

I didn't see anything wrong in the threads I read in Counting On. I don't really read the Michelle and JimBob one, so not sure what was going on in there. I think we all have reasonable discussions and you all make me laugh daily.

I don't know where to go if this site becomes a fan thread and I will miss all our discussions and the laughs..

I've never even watched the Duggars yet somehow found my way here.  At one point I even looked up Prayer Closet because I had no idea what it referred to.

I have a feeling the whole of Primetimer is on its way out, or will be reduced to something I have no interest in, but if it stays and Counting On is axed, I hope there'll be away to keep The Prayer Closet going, or "reinvent" it,  maybe under Everything Else.

If it doesn't, and this all just disappears suddenly, I am another who enjoys this thread and have also got a lot of support from people here, so thank you for keeping me going in this mad and sad world.

[EtheltoTillie]

Now I have to check out the Reddit sub on Primetimer.  I don't regularly look at that, but I do use Reddit.  I don't usually use Reddit for TV shows, but I may have to start.   I'm GussieK on Reddit.  The name I used to have here. 

[RowdyCam]

Mostly lurk but how the heck do folks on a snark site adhere to vague guidelines with no actual direction? Sad that they've gone in this direction. I found most of the commenters here to be thoughtful and to go out of their way not to be harsh on the real victims here: the children whose parents are exploiting them for fame and money.

 

[libgirl2]

What are the badges? I'm really confused by all of this. 

[MaryAnneSpier]

How are improvements supposed to be made when threads have been locked? We can't post anything, either good or bad, so there's no way to get feedback about what's appropriate and what isn't. I think the whole Duggar page is finished. 

I've been here, both as a poster and as a lurker, since early 2015. I feel this site was very respectful toward different points of view- good, healthy debates without making it nasty toward each other. In a way, the Duggar board was one of the resources that has helped me through my religious deconstruction, before I even knew that was a thing. I don't like Reddit, but I suppose that's where I'll have to go now. 

 

[thehorseofpower]

I don't post here often, but I read almost every day and found this forum to be a bit of a lifeline during the worst times of the pandemic. I see posters respectfully disagree and debate in a healthy way all the time. This forum is the opposite of rude, cruel, or harmful - it points out the cruelty and harm of the cult this family and its adjacent follow, for certain...but this is not a cult fan site. 

The new banner on the site states "the role of moderators - beyond policing to celebrating and leading." How is threatening to shut down this entire forum with zero explanation of what is wrong, beyond "thread titles are a cheap laugh" in any way not policing? These thread titles were put up by the previous moderators!  If standards have changed, why are these new mods not simply changing them? Who in this forum would even have the access to change them other than these new mods who are threatening closure in the first place? I'm very confused and upset. I really value this forum and the thought of it going away is upsetting.

[emma675]

I haven't posted in the Counting On threads in years (largely due to a horrible mod who threatened me via warnings and PMs, but her account was deleted weeks ago), but I've kept up with it daily.

Before this thread and this site go away, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone here. I have learned so much from all of you, laughed, shared tears and hard times, and felt a connection across the vastness of the internet. I hope we can find another place to snark, share, and connect. This was fun while it lasted, buy I'm not sure what this site is or does anymore. 

[thehorseofpower]

I messaged the mod who locked the threads, asking them to please just update thread titles to fit new guidelines, because regular posters certainly can't change those, and to please come to this thread and engage with us on what the new expectations are for threads on someone like Josh in particular. If their new goal is to not police us but lead us...it seems this would be the right thing to do.

It probably won't change anything, but at least I feel like I tried. :(

[GeeGolly]

13 minutes ago, thehorseofpower said:

I messaged the mod who locked the threads, asking them to please just update thread titles to fit new guidelines, because regular posters certainly can't change those, and to please come to this thread and engage with us on what the new expectations are for threads on someone like Josh in particular. If their new goal is to not police us but lead us...it seems this would be the right thing to do.

It probably won't change anything, but at least I feel like I tried. :(

I also sent a similar DM. This ship may be sinking, but since Redditt confuses me and I like it here, I want it to succeed.

[Dehumidifier]

1 hour ago, thehorseofpower said:

I don't post here often, but I read almost every day and found this forum to be a bit of a lifeline during the worst times of the pandemic. I see posters respectfully disagree and debate in a healthy way all the time. This forum is the opposite of rude, cruel, or harmful - it points out the cruelty and harm of the cult this family and its adjacent follow, for certain...but this is not a cult fan site. 

Calling people "punchable" or saying that they have "punchable" faces is rude and possibly harmful. That has been done numerous times.

Wishing infertility on a young couple (Justin and Claire) is cruel. That has been done more than once.

 

Edited March 2 by Dehumidifier
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[GeeGolly]

12 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Calling people "punchable" or saying that they have "punchable" faces is rude and possibly harmful. That has been done numerous times.

Wishing infertility on a young couple (Justin and Claire) is cruel. That has been done more than once.

 

I can see how that could be seen that way, but posts like that are few and far between. And weren't those posts done months or years ago? I wouldn't think they would fall under the new traffic light rules.

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, libgirl2 said:

What are the badges? I'm really confused by all of this. 

 

[Mindthinkr]

I just wish to express my appreciation for all of you here on the Prayer Closet. You have always been kind to me when I needed kindness, given me support when needed and always made me feel as though I’m not alone. You have all literally been a Godsend. I pray we can continue to thrive as our small community 🙏🏻

[satrunrose]

26 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Calling people "punchable" or saying that they have "punchable" faces is rude and possibly harmful. That has been done numerous times.

Wishing infertility on a young couple (Justin and Claire) is cruel. That has been done more than once.

 

I would support an instruction to change Cade's nickname and there is precedent for that. (See changes to David Rod's nickname and the struggle to find a nickname that was appropriate for Josh). It's actually a good example of a specific directive that would be really useful in this situation. 

For the Claire and Justin situation, it seems like it's a little more nuanced. Directly wishing infertility for them is over the line, but is it wrong to question whether it's not for the best that such a young couple aren't having baby after baby, especially when we know what this cult does to its children? I would argue that the second is a nuanced debate starter, which is what we're supposed to be after.

[MaryAnneSpier]

5 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

 

We're being treated like Kindergarten children. We have "Red, Yellow, Green Lights" to let us know about our behavior level. And now we get stickers for following the rules. This is just plain insulting.

[SnapHappy]

22 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I can see how that could be seen that way, but posts like that are few and far between. And weren't those posts done months or years ago? I wouldn't think they would fall under the new traffic light rules.

The term "punchable aunt Cade" was last used on 2/18 in the Vuolo's thread.  They may be Duggar/Vuolo adjacent, but the couple has been consistently derided and ridiculed in that thread since their wedding.  For simply living their lives as they choose.  

Posters here deliberately go out and find information on these tangentially linked people and seemingly enjoy dragging them into the Duggar/Vuolo limelight.  

Not cool to many of us.  And not appropriate. 

Edited March 2 by SnapHappy

[thehorseofpower]

13 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I can see how that could be seen that way, but posts like that are few and far between. And weren't those posts done months or years ago? I wouldn't think they would fall under the new traffic light rules.

This is where I'm at with the thread titles - I cannot understand why you would threaten to shut down a whole forum over thread titles that were created with the approval of the former mods. There is nothing we as the regular posters can do to change these. If they no longer fit the site rules, the new mods need to tell us that and change them, not lock the entire thread and threaten deletion of the entire forum.

This forum has always leaned to the snark side and our past posts reflect that. This has never been a Duggar fan site; it has always come with a healthy dose of calling out their harmful behaviors and cult-like tendencies. That being said, when we have veered over the line in the past, the mods have called it out and let us know specifically what is inappropriate, which is still clearly visible in past mod notes reminding us of the politics policy and David R's inappropriate nickname. If Cade's nickname has also crossed the line of what is now expected, we should be told this directly so it can stop. That is a pretty easy behavior change and a clear example of what may no longer be appropriate. Threatening closure of the forum with no actual examples of why or what complaints have been lodged by users is not.

[crazycatlady58]

We can always go to Chit Chat to talk If Counting On is closed down we have that option. I do think it is telling no one from PT has come here to respond to our concerns. 

Edited March 2 by crazycatlady58
To make sense

[MaryAnneSpier]

10 minutes ago, SnapHappy said:

The term "punchable aunt Cade" was last used on 2/18 in the Vuolo's thread.  They may be Duggar/Vuolo adjacent, but the couple has been consistently derided and ridiculed in that thread since their wedding.  For simply living their lives as they choose.  

Posters here deliberately go out and find information on these tangentially linked people and seemingly enjoy dragging them into the Duggar/Vuolo limelight.  

Not cool to many of us.  And not appropriate. 

The relationship between Gabby and her husband is relevant because it's another example of the lifestyle and views of gender roles in their brand of Christianity. Cade will not allow Gabby to have the spotlight- he always ensures that he not only tags along but tries to take over and gain more attention than she does. It's quite similar to the dynamic between Jinger and Jeremy- she was a D-list reality TV celebrity, and he consistently tries to outshine her instead of taking the backseat. Gabby and Cade are/were friends with the Vuolos, and knew them well enough to have Jeremy officiate their wedding, which Jeremy happily posted all over SM. If it's being posted by the parties on their socials, I don't think it's overstepping to continue conversations about them in the thread for their "friends". 

[Joan of Argh]

At least this entire forum wasn’t deleted without any warning like the Royals forum a couple months ago and the Shopping Channel forum yesterday.

I haven’t seen the Mods do anything and I don’t think they’re allowed to do anything but housekeeping duties etc.

all of the deleting forums, locking threads and traffic light actions have been performed by the two Community Managers.

@cm-soupsipper and @CM-CrispMtAir

[thehorseofpower]

The managers' new guidelines/expectations state the below - where is the "targeted feedback" promised in the second paragraph to "coach" us? I see no targeted feedback from moderators/managers. They also say they are "evolving" from a "punitive" role. What is more punitive than threatening permanent deletion of a forum with the only clear feedback being that our thread titles, which were created with past mod permission, are now inappropriate (which members have no access to change)?

"Our moderation team is evolving from a traditional more punitive role to become champions of community health.  As you peruse the forums, you may see us:

Using emojis and targeted feedback to coach community members towards more inclusive and diverse perspectives.Connecting members by highlighting threads and posts that foster constructive dialogue.Challenging the community to think deeper and engage respectfully with differing viewpoints.Creating spaces for underrepresented voices, ensuring that a broad spectrum of experiences and opinions are heard.

Our moderators are here not just to enforce rules but to celebrate achievements, guide discussions, and help everyone find a place in our community."

 

 

[Jeeves]

A few more thoughts about the concept of the Duggar show(s) discussions: we aren't fans. I hope one of the new mods will read this as it can I hope provide context.

TLC presented this family on their shows beginning in 2004 with specials, then from 2008 in two successive series, as wholesome, religious, extraordinarily large, and fun to watch. Many viewers - including me - were skeptical of that image. It didn't take much digging to learn that the Duggars were big followers of the IBLP and Bill Gothard. They were rearing a huge family in a high-demand, high-control, authoritarian religion - but you wouldn't know that from watching the show.  Even after the re-branding to "Counting On" after the Josh scandals in 2015, TLC just gave us the Duggar party line: well Josh disappointed us and let's not talk about that anymore.

Over time, the truth behind the Duggar facade has come out. 

• 2015: We learned that as early as 2002 or 2003, the Duggar parents discovered that teenaged Josh had molested five young girls in their home. The parents didn't get counseling for their four daughters, dealt with Josh through their church and IBLP, and didn't mention the situation to TLC when they signed up for TV fame and money in 2004. Also in 2015, after the molestations were revealed, Josh was outed as a client on the Ashley Madison website and admitted a porn addiction. He was sent to an IBLP-linked "recovery" program for awhile. 
• 2019: News broke of a Homeland Security raid/visit to the Duggar used car dealership run by Josh. Duggars denied anything was wrong.
• 2021: Josh was arrested on felony federal charges of possession of CSAM, went to trial, and was convicted of the charges.
• 2022: Josh was sentenced to federal prison for those crimes. 
• 2023: The docuseries "Shiny Happy People" was released (Amazon Prime), exploring the religious cult and controlling behavior that the Duggar children were reared in, as well as the religious movement (IFB) of which IBLP is a part. TBH not much of that content was news to me or others who've been paying attention to the Duggars over the years, but it was apparently quite a bombshell for the general public.
• 2023: Jill Duggar's book "Counting the Cost" was published, revealing the manipulation, coercive control, and financial exploitation she experienced as she essentially grew up with TV cameras in the house. 

This is serious stuff. And I haven't even mentioned Michelle's "buddy system" - she handed off each new baby when weaned, to one of the daughters who became its "buddy." Responsible for its care 24/7, while Michelle was thus freed to conceive and carry yet another baby to term. But these daughters were children themselves! Sheesh.

We've been discussing this stuff for years. These are not easy fun things to talk about. The former mods grappled, I think overall quite well, with issues as they came up. The discussions in the Counting On threads have ranged from some light-hearted snark to very serious commentary. I do not believe these discussions have constituted the "harmful conduct" cited in the Community Growth Light Forums directive. We have been respectful to each other in those discussions.

I for one am not interested in showing empathy to Josh Duggar. I'm also not brimming with affection or respect for Jim Bob or Michelle Duggar, based on their behavior. 

Are we really expected to welcome "diversity" into the forums in the form of commentary that blindly "supports" a convicted felon with a history of child molestation, his parents who ignored or enabled his harmful and criminal behavior nearly two decades, or a high-demand authoritarian religion with cult-like control over people? Assuming anybody would want to take those positions here anyway? Is the problem the mods have, the lack of "support" for such things? 

We just don't know so far. All we know for sure is they don't like some of the thread names "and much of the posting within" those locked threads. It's still a mystery to me what we are supposed to do differently.

[CalicoKitty]

1 hour ago, Dehumidifier said:

Calling people "punchable" or saying that they have "punchable" faces is rude and possibly harmful. That has been done numerous times.

Wishing infertility on a young couple (Justin and Claire) is cruel. That has been done more than once.

 

Those are not terms I personally would use, but if I don't like something someone says, I use the delete button.  I do not complain to anyone else.  We are not children here, we can make adult choices on our own.

[Dehumidifier]

25 minutes ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

The relationship between Gabby and her husband is relevant because it's another example of the lifestyle and views of gender roles in their brand of Christianity. Cade will not allow Gabby to have the spotlight- he always ensures that he not only tags along but tries to take over and gain more attention than she does. It's quite similar to the dynamic between Jinger and Jeremy- she was a D-list reality TV celebrity, and he consistently tries to outshine her instead of taking the backseat. Gabby and Cade are/were friends with the Vuolos, and knew them well enough to have Jeremy officiate their wedding, which Jeremy happily posted all over SM. If it's being posted by the parties on their socials, I don't think it's overstepping to continue conversations about them in the thread for their "friends". 

When I was in college in an elective class (that was drama?, film?, theater? I don't remember) the professor talked about how celebrity/celebrity marriages have a poor success rate because both parties have egos that require a lot of attention and acclaim. Jeremy was a professional athlete and certainly hoped to be a star when he was growing up. Their need for attention may have nothing to do with their religion.

[Dehumidifier]

7 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Those are not terms I personally would use, but if I don't like something someone says, I use the delete button.  I do not complain to anyone else.  We are not children here, we can make adult choices on our own.

Are you saying there should be no moderation or rules at all?

[GeeGolly]

Well I think we should be lighting up that bright green heart right now in this thread. And we should all be given these (unwanted) badges as well.

We've spent some serious time trying to figure out what is going on here, being our kind, humorous and respectful selves.

And like what has been said, we are not cult fans, and in truth we have given the Duggars more grace and respect than they likely deserve.

💚🥇

 

[CalicoKitty]

1 minute ago, Dehumidifier said:

Are yo

2 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Are you saying there should be no moderation or rules at all?

You know that is not what I am saying at all, and I am not going to argue with you.  Have a nice day.

[CalicoKitty]

The snow here is still falling, but it is not as bad as I expected so far.  Based on what is on my fence, I'm guessing we have had about 5 inches so far.  It is supposed to snow all day today and tomorrow morning. It should stop tomorrow afternoon, and it should be sunny, but very cold.  The snow plow came this morning so the road is clear, but I am staying inside today and tomorrow.  Hopefully my neighbor's grandson will shovel my driveway tomorrow.  Tahoe was under a blizzard warning and all roads through the Sierras have travel restrictions. , but at least the high, high winds have died down.  They were predicting about 10 feet at the higher elevations.  At least the weather is not as bad as last year when we set a 40 year snow record. 

I hope everyone here who is in a weather situation stays safe-- especially those near the Texas fires.

[mythoughtis]

I really am not interested in coming to this site to coach, collaborate, create, self transform etc.  I just want a site where I can comment on scripted and reality tv shows. For scripted shows: the  plots, the writing , the characters, the costumes etc. I want to be able to say what a nonsensical  plot or an ugly costume and have that cheap laugh. 
 

For reality Tv:  these people consented to be filmed, and after filming was over, they created public social media sites and use those sites to make money selling products for themselves or others. They trade on their fame.  It’s fair   to be able to say I don’t like what they are doing.  I say so here- I don’t go to their page and say one negative word to them. I don’t know where they live and I don’t want to.  If I saw them in real life. I wouldn’t bother them. 
 

adding one additional comment :  if you felt Derrick was trolling Jazz on Twitter, then you can’t in return say it’s ok to troll Derrick.  It’s unfair to both or to neither 

Edited March 2 by mythoughtis

[Joan of Argh]

Here’s a “Challenger Badge” recipient 

I guess It’s an example of what’s expected from the rest of us  🤷‍♀️

 

[AstridM]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

 

2 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

2 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

Edited March 2 by AstridM

[Dehumidifier]

2 minutes ago, AstridM said:

I knew it! 🤦‍♀️

You have said in the past that you thought these forums shouldn’t exist anymore because the shows are off the air. You don’t seem to like most of the posts here. May I ask why you stay?

1) Knew what? You think I complained yesterday?  Nope. 

2) I find it strangely fascinating.

[GeeGolly]

39 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

I really am not interested in coming to this site to coach, collaborate, create, self transform etc.  I just want a site where I can comment on scripted and reality tv shows. For scripted shows: the  plots, the writing , the characters, the costumes etc. I want to be able to say what a nonsensical  plot or an ugly costume and have that cheap laugh. 
 

For reality Tv:  these people consented to be filmed, and after filming was over, they created public social media sites and use those sites to make money selling products for themselves or others. They trade on their fame.  It’s fair   to be able to say I don’t like what they are doing.  I say so here- I don’t go to their page and say one negative word to them. I don’t know where they live and I don’t want to.  If I saw them in real life. I wouldn’t bother them. 
 

adding one additional comment :  if you felt Derrick was trolling Jazz on Twitter, then you can’t in return say it’s ok to troll Derrick.  It’s unfair to both or to neither 

Love your post!

I don't think what is posted here is trolling. Its sharing opinions, almost always in a respectful way, in a forum. Disrespectfully posting on IG and Twitter on public accounts, to me anyway, is a whole different ballgame. To me apples and oranges.

[libgirl2]

I don't want a badge. I also think I'm overall pretty nice on here. 
The people I cannot tolerate are Josh and Jill/David, but I try to keep my comments okay. 

[Dehumidifier]

My last contact with management was when I filled out the survey during the shutdown. My comments concerned 1) the use of "punchable" 2) that there should be a limit/quota on how many times a person can react to another person's comment like another site I know of has 3) the behavior of another poster. 

If someone complained yesterday it was probably the family that found its domestic issues being discussed on a TV forum.

[AstridM]

I’m fairly positive that we can only react once to any comment. If emojis trigger you, then block those posters? It’s not difficult. 🤦‍♀️

[oliviabenson]

I bet Jill or Cade joined and complained…

[AstridM]

Just now, oliviabenson said:

I bet Jill or Cade joined and complained…

Then Jill and Cade should stop choosing to put  their personal business on social media using public accounts and share them with millions of complete strangers. They all choose that. No one can have it both ways. 

[Dehumidifier]

3 minutes ago, AstridM said:

I’m fairly positive that we can only react once to any comment. If emojis trigger you, then block those posters? It’s not difficult. 🤦‍♀️

How many times a poster can react to another poster's comments, not to one comment. 

[AstridM]

1 minute ago, Dehumidifier said:

How many times a poster can react to another poster's comments, not to one comment. 

Huh? Why would that matter? We all have the power to block other posters.

[Ohiopirate02]

5 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

My last contact with management was when I filled out the survey during the shutdown. My comments concerned 1) the use of "punchable" 2) that there should be a limit/quota on how many times a person can react to another person's comment like another site I know of has 3) the behavior of another poster. 

If someone complained yesterday it was probably the family that found its domestic issues being discussed on a TV forum.

I don't think anyone complained yesterday.  I think the thread closures yesterday were a result of the survey, and these will not be the only forums affected by the new policies.  Valid concerns were raised and are now being addressed.

[AstridM]

28 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I don't think anyone complained yesterday.  I think the thread closures yesterday were a result of the survey, and these will not be the only forums affected by the new policies.  Valid concerns were raised and are now being addressed.

How? No one here even understands what the actual issues are and how to correct them. We aren’t able to change the thread titles ourselves .

Edited March 2 by AstridM