HOTNTX53 August 20, 2018 Share August 20, 2018 Well, Sarah Treem and Ruth Wilson answer the question about Alison's murder. Yes, murder, but only the viewing audience will ever know that it was murder. Sarah Treem gives the answer here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5uOBlCrh8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4604402
LoveLeigh August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 (edited) This makes sense. Why else would Ruth Wilson be mandated not to talk about the reason for her departure? If it was not pay parity this might be it and they want it swept under the rug. Ruth Wilson's exit and this Edited August 21, 2018 by DakotaLavender 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4607295
weaver August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DakotaLavender said: This makes sense. Why else would Ruth Wilson be mandated not to talk about the reason for her departure? If it was not pay parity this might be it and they want it swept under the rug. Ruth Wilson's exit and this Makes more sense than the excuses they provided. I never believed Ruth Wilson asked out and was granted out just to go on and do other work. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4607325
cleo August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 Well the pay equity thing never made sense, Ruth's comments were more matter of fact than inflammatory. I could not see Showtime getting that upset over it. If something happened it would have to be substantial for Ruth to want to leave imo. I would think they would try to rectify it to keep her, esp if it didn't involve another actor they wanted to protect. I am also surprised at how Showtime handled the thing with the double, especially these days. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4607472
scrb August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 I’m kind of surprised that she wasn’t under contract. Maybe the main cast was signed only through 4 seasons and were willing to do a season 5? if she was contractually obligated, why not make her stay, since she is one of the leads? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4607494
weaver August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 No, I saw an video (its on YouTube) from several years ago with Dominic West introducing Ruth Wilson to accept an award. They both alluded to having signed 6 year contracts. That to me means Treem and co could have forced RW to stay. Puzzling. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4607610
cleo August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 Well they let her out with an NDA (likely based on her comment) so whatever it was, would have to be pretty bad. Go and keep quiet. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4607778
Growsonwalls August 28, 2018 Share August 28, 2018 I've been an on and off viewer of the The Affair and I'm stunned Showtime would think that "the character has run its course" would be a believable excuse for killing Alison off. Alison was the mother of Joanie, she was at the center of an extremely popular showmance (Cole/Alison), and also her journey towards self-improvement was a huge character arc. Something definitely went down and it's unfortunate that it will probably take a couple of years for the NDA to expire so we can get the full story. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4625350
thefountain August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 This interview has a little bit more info at the end. Quote There was a meaningful silence. “There is a much bigger story,” she eventually volunteered, urging me, more than once, to contact Sarah Treem, a writer and producer of the show. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4632628
JenE4 August 31, 2018 Share August 31, 2018 The Affair: Ruth Wilson Says There’s a “Much Bigger Story” About Her Sudden Exit - Vanity Fair Quote The strange mystery surrounding Ruth Wilson’s sudden departure from The Affair continues. Speaking with The New York Times, the actress shot down the two most salient theories about why she left the show, leading to her character’s sudden death on the Showtime drama: “It isn’t about pay parity, and it wasn’t about other jobs,” Wilson said, adding, “But I’m not really allowed to talk about it.” After a long pause, Wilson continued, cryptically: “There is a much bigger story.” 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4635921
scrb August 31, 2018 Share August 31, 2018 Emmy Rossi’s announced she’s leaving Shameless after this upcoming ninth season. Maybe there’s a thing with Female leads on Showtime series. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4636133
Chas411 September 2, 2018 Share September 2, 2018 I think Emmy has been ready to finish up for a year or two. I also think she's finishing up on much better terms with the network then Ruth. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4639689
chick binewski September 2, 2018 Share September 2, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 10:08 AM, JenE4 said: The Affair: Ruth Wilson Says There’s a “Much Bigger Story” About Her Sudden Exit - Vanity Fair I don't know why I'm so invested in this but I am still really curious. Partly bc Wilson seems non-diva like, partly bc I'm interested if she objected to a turn the story was going to take, and partly bc I want to know if the blind items about her and Pacey are true. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4640088
scrb September 2, 2018 Share September 2, 2018 Or maybe just like Ruth, she thought the show was way past it's sell-by date, with characters not really going anywhere. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4640119
Guest September 4, 2018 Share September 4, 2018 Quote “It isn’t about pay parity, and it wasn’t about other jobs,” Wilson said, adding, “But I’m not really allowed to talk about it.” After a long pause, Wilson continued, cryptically: “There is a much bigger story.” OK, so in my wild imagination, when Ruth Wilson says, "There is a much bigger story" and then suggests to the author that they go ask the series' writer what she means, maybe it means that the 'story' Wilson refers to is what's on the screen—maybe the whole thing wraps up at the end with The Affair just being a literary invention of Noah's, that he never had an affair with Alison, never split from Helen, and Alison never split from Cole, and never died. Maybe "The Affair" was just a book that Noah wrote after catching Alison's eye at the restaurant the first time they met. The big final reveal will be: Don't cheat and keep it in your pants or shitty things will happen to everyone involved. The end. Of course, that'll never happen. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4645106
Elizzikra September 5, 2018 Share September 5, 2018 Quote OK, so in my wild imagination, when Ruth Wilson says, "There is a much bigger story" and then suggests to the author that they go ask the series' writer what she means, maybe it means that the 'story' Wilson refers to is what's on the screen—maybe the whole thing wraps up at the end with The Affair just being a literary invention of Noah's, that he never had an affair with Alison, never split from Helen, and Alison never split from Cole, and never died. Maybe "The Affair" was just a book that Noah wrote after catching Alison's eye at the restaurant the first time they met. The big final reveal will be: Don't cheat and keep it in your pants or shitty things will happen to everyone involved. The end. I like it except that it would mean Joanie doesn't exist and she's kinda my favorite character. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4646566
taragel September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 So Joshua Jackson's out for Season 5 (mostly). That makes think maybe they are heading into a reconcilliation for Helen and Noah. I'm not sure I'll be tuning in as JJ was really my reason to watch, but probably my curiosity will kick in and I'll check it out. https://tvline.com/2018/09/25/joshua-jackson-leaving-the-affair-season-5-cole/ 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4700680
Chas411 September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 Wow while I couldn't really see where there really was for Cole to go I could kind of say the same for Helen and Noah at this point. The whole thing has turned into a clusterfuck. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4700762
Diane12251 September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, taragel said: So Joshua Jackson's out for Season 5 (mostly). That makes think maybe they are heading into a reconcilliation for Helen and Noah. I'm not sure I'll be tuning in as JJ was really my reason to watch, but probably my curiosity will kick in and I'll check it out. https://tvline.com/2018/09/25/joshua-jackson-leaving-the-affair-season-5-cole/ Interesting that Joshua Jackson isn't coming back, except for perhaps a guest appearance in one or two episodes. The article doesn't say why, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't because of how they treated Ruth Wilson and the way they killed off Alison. Cole was always one of my favorite characters, so this is very sad. It won't be the same without Alison and Cole. I'm bummed, but I'll watch Season 5, mainly out of curiosity. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4700859
taragel September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 Just now, Diane12251 said: Interesting that Joshua Jackson isn't coming back, except for perhaps a guest appearance in one or two episodes. The article doesn't say why, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't because of how they treated Ruth Wilson and the way they killed off Alison. Cole was always one of my favorite characters, so this is very sad. It won't be the same without Alison and Cole. I'm bummed, but I'll watch Season 5, mainly out of curiosity. I hope they do at least wrap up what happened with him and Luisa and Joanie. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4700861
Diane12251 September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 8:17 PM, Elizzikra said: OK, so in my wild imagination, when Ruth Wilson says, "There is a much bigger story" and then suggests to the author that they go ask the series' writer what she means, maybe it means that the 'story' Wilson refers to is what's on the screen—maybe the whole thing wraps up at the end with The Affair just being a literary invention of Noah's, that he never had an affair with Alison, never split from Helen, and Alison never split from Cole, and never died. Maybe "The Affair" was just a book that Noah wrote after catching Alison's eye at the restaurant the first time they met. The big final reveal will be: Don't cheat and keep it in your pants or shitty things will happen to everyone involved. The end. I like it except that it would mean Joanie doesn't exist and she's kinda my favorite character. Please... I really hope they don't do this - reminds me of the Dream Season of Dallas. What a cop-out!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4700878
bilgistic September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 3 hours ago, taragel said: So Joshua Jackson's out for Season 5 (mostly). That makes think maybe they are heading into a reconcilliation for Helen and Noah. I'm not sure I'll be tuning in as JJ was really my reason to watch, but probably my curiosity will kick in and I'll check it out. https://tvline.com/2018/09/25/joshua-jackson-leaving-the-affair-season-5-cole/ Ugh, this is a huge bummer. He's pretty much the only reason I watch. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4701269
scrb September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 (edited) They'll have to scramble to introduce new characters, since they're eliminating 2 of the 4 characters which got most of the story lines. Or maybe they'll only do 6 episodes or something. Edited September 25, 2018 by scrb 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4701358
taragel September 26, 2018 Share September 26, 2018 3 hours ago, scrb said: They'll have to scramble to introduce new characters, since they're eliminating 2 of the 4 characters which got most of the story lines. Or maybe they'll only do 6 episodes or something. Plus they're out of women Noah hasn't slept with. ? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4701978
dangwoodchucks September 28, 2018 Share September 28, 2018 Count me out for season 5 too. It’s bad enough that Ruth Wilson is gone, but I only started watching the show because of Joshua Jackson. I don’t care what happens to Noah, Helen and their insufferable brats. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4710052
AngelaHunter October 18, 2018 Share October 18, 2018 On 9/28/2018 at 5:54 PM, dangwoodchucks said: I don’t care what happens to Noah, Helen and their insufferable brats. Have we ever seen brats more insufferable and annoying than Helen and Noah's offspring? The little girl (I forget her name) is okay but every time we see the two boys I just want to spank them, really hard. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4763888
HOTNTX53 October 20, 2018 Share October 20, 2018 Looks like Luisa (Catalina Sandino Moreno) is out too. https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/the-affair-season-5-casting-shakeup/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4767604
scrb October 20, 2018 Share October 20, 2018 3 hours ago, HOTNTX53 said: Looks like Luisa (Catalina Sandino Moreno) is out too. https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/the-affair-season-5-casting-shakeup/ That article says Vik, Janelle, Sierra and Ben will be back in S5. i guess they’re trying to figure out how to fill the eps. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4767928
Pallas October 20, 2018 Share October 20, 2018 Quote That article says Vik, Janelle, Sierra and Ben will be back in S5. The article says only that Moreno won't return as a regular, leaving open the possibility that she could return in a recurring or guest role: like some of the above, I'm guessing. It adds that the season is already in production. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4768007
scrb October 20, 2018 Share October 20, 2018 Right but what I'm saying is that most of these secondary characters are tied to the main characters who've left. For instance, with Alison and Cole gone, why would Ben need to be on the show? Are they going to feature his POV when he kills Alison? Or Vik or Sierra? Is Helen going to have some dreams about Vik? Is she still going to have to deal with Sierra? I guess Noah is still going to sniff around Janelle unless he gets back together with Helen. There is a lot of doubt about the value of having a fifth season, especially without Alison and to a lesser degree, without Cole. Bringing some of these supporting characters back suggest they don't have much story left and they will fill out episodes with these other characters. If they're doing another season just to wrap up Helen and Noah getting back together, it's a questionable undertaking. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4768290
Babalu October 20, 2018 Share October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, scrb said: That article says Vik, Janelle, Sierra and Ben will be back in S5. i guess they’re trying to figure out how to fill the eps. I’m reading it as saying that only Jenelle and Sierra will be back for Season 5. The article states that Vik was added as a series regular and Ben as a recurring star in Season 4, but it doesn’t indicate whether they’ll be in Season 5. Vik probably dies between seasons. I don’t see any reason for Ben to be back since Sarah Treem said none of the characters will ever know that Alison was murdered, so what purpose would he have? (Just my guesses.) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4768601
LoveLeigh November 9, 2018 Share November 9, 2018 News about next season with SPOILERS Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4821358
PrincessPurrsALot November 9, 2018 Share November 9, 2018 Paramours, I moved the discussion of the spoilers in the above link to the Spoilers thread. Head on over there if you are okay with being spoiled and you want to speculate on the next season. There is a lot to speculate about. Thanks! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-4821575
LilaFowler July 2, 2019 Share July 2, 2019 The final season trailer has dropped. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5416489
chick binewski July 8, 2019 Share July 8, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 2:16 PM, LilaFowler said: The final season trailer has dropped. Eek that dialogue is making my teeth hurt. But the show sucked me in again during the July 4th marathon (I even watched some season three episodes!) and I am looking forward to this even though I cannot with the Redemption of Noah Solloway with his Sidekick the Scornful Ex-Wife. West & Tierney deserve better. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5430451
Guest July 8, 2019 Share July 8, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 2:16 PM, LilaFowler said: The final season trailer has dropped. ...like a turd in the toilet. Thank god it's ending. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5430473
gingerella July 11, 2019 Share July 11, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 3:04 PM, Giant Misfit said: ...like a turd in the toilet. Thank god it's ending. Yes but it's that tenacious turd that you keep flushing and walking away and when you go back, its still bobbing there in your toilet, like a little happy shit emoticon... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5436718
dangwoodchucks July 14, 2019 Share July 14, 2019 I watched the trailer out of curiosity, just to see if it looked interesting. But as soon as I heard Whitney shrieking “I fucking hate both of you!”, I said nope. Nope nope nope 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5444773
AngelaHunter July 14, 2019 Share July 14, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 5:54 PM, chick binewski said: The final season trailer has dropped. I admit I didn't watch all of the trailer, but is Helen getting a toyboy? Really? Other than that, without Alison and Cole, I see no reason to watch this. Except I probably will out of desperation, since I have nothing to watch. That makes me sad because I did so love this show. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5445339
scrb July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 There’s plenty to watch but mainly want to finish the series since I’ve stuck with it this far. cant imagine what Treem will do next. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5445988
Razzberry August 18, 2019 Share August 18, 2019 It looks like someone is making a movie of their life, perhaps with Noah as the screenwriter and Anna Paquin playing Alison? It couldn't have been easy to cast someone with Noah's magnetism and sex appeal .😉 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5534665
scrb August 18, 2019 Share August 18, 2019 (edited) I didn't realize this will be on next Sunday. OK, lets get this over with, just for sake of completion, even though it was BS to continue after Wilson left the show. BTW, the creator of the Israeli show on which The Affair is based produced a show with HBO called Our Boys which is airing on Mondays. Edited August 18, 2019 by scrb Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5534670
Razzberry August 18, 2019 Share August 18, 2019 "She's sashaying around Hollywood like she's Nicole Kidman!" I'm actually looking forward to this. With Kirsten Dunst's new show premiering right after, I need to re-up Showtime. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5535051
suomi August 22, 2019 Share August 22, 2019 (edited) Quote Maura Tierney Has Reached the End of The Affair I was surprised to discover that the series was doing a time jump for a portion of this season. Oh, yeah! I’m very curious about that. I didn’t see any of that. Okay, maybe I saw one set. But I wasn’t in it, so I didn’t get to work with Anna [Paquin], and all of it, it’ll be completely new to me. But it’s exciting that Anna’s on the show. Although I miss Josh [Jackson] and Ruth [Wilson]. On that note, Ruth obviously asked to leave the show, and they gave her that opportunity. But were you surprised when she made that decision to leave? Um...I don’t know. People have different tolerances for different things, you know? I’m not surprised by much. Well, it is a very intense show. I can see how someone could run their course with it. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Or how long they want to do one thing. The work was certainly very demanding for her. Like, that character was just suffering all the time. I mean, I can’t speculate as to what happened... Nor was I asking you to. I was just wondering if you were surprised when she asked to leave. No. I’ve been on other shows where other people...No, you know, this show is very specific. And it’s very demanding. And sometimes people have a shelf life for it. I think that’s what I would say. All I want to know is if you were happy with the conclusion of Helen’s journey. I...was - I think so. I mean, you know, the flaw in the character is that she’s always trying to make everything all right for everybody. And that’s impossible! So the idea this season was to push her into some circumstances where she'd realize that it’s impossible. And I don’t know if Helen really does. [Laughs.] It might just be who she is. But there’s something really nice in the final episode about people being honest with themselves. It’s just sort of about accepting that you love who you love, and who the fuck cares what anybody thinks about that. It’s said in a more eloquent way, but I like that. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/08/maura-tierney-the-affair-final-season-interview Edited August 22, 2019 by suomi 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5546592
HaaCHOO August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 "Alison started dating Ben (Ramón Rodríguez), a veteran suffering from PTSD, who she met at work." W H O M Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5553058
AngelaHunter August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 It's on tonight? It's been so long I had to look it up to remember which station it's on. On 8/18/2019 at 12:24 AM, Razzberry said: It looks like someone is making a movie of their life, perhaps with Noah as the screenwriter and Anna Paquin playing Alison? It couldn't have been easy to cast someone with Noah's magnetism and sex appeal .😉 100% will watch. 🤣 2 hours ago, HaaCHOO said: W H O M We are now in an era when reporters often cannot write a single declarative sentence using correct grammar. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5553320
Growsonwalls August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 (edited) No Alison since last season and now no Cole? Fuck that, I'm out. The only two characters worth caring about are gone. I also think that if they wanted to write off Alison's character they should have had her and Cole ride off into the sunset. Part of my frustration with the series was that at no time did I ever think that Cole and Alison didn't belong together. They had a rough patch after their son died. Many marriages do after tragedies. But they loved each other, they had another child (!!!) together, and so why the hell aren't they just together? Edited August 25, 2019 by Growsonwalls 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5553625
AngelaHunter August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 My frustration is that only we, the audience, know that Alison was murdered. Her child, her mother, Cole, Noah, etc are all left with the guilt and remorse of thinking she committed suicide. Stupid beyond belief and a huge "Fuck you" to the viewers. I see this a lot with shows. TPTB figure we'll watch to the bitter end since we've invested so much time on the series that we'll continue with it no matter how much it sucks. I hate that they're so often right. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5553691
Growsonwalls August 25, 2019 Share August 25, 2019 (edited) Hmm. In light of some of the rumors surrounding Ruth Wilson's departure, and then Joshua Jackson also leaving, I thought it was interesting that Josh Jackson's Instagram has as his bio this: Edited August 25, 2019 by Growsonwalls Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5553744
Crs97 August 27, 2019 Share August 27, 2019 I understand Maura probably isn’t able to say much, but her answers seem to insinuate the work just got too demanding for Ruth. It leaves a bad taste for me. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/17834-the-affair-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-5559000
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