Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[MsTree]

When Allison leaves, does anyone know if they kill off Sami...or try to kill her?? The reason I ask is because her life was threatened more than once today.

[JBC344]

We are pretty sure that Sami doesn't get killed because Allison has said that she will be back for Christmas, Holiday episodes, and when Days does their anniversary shows.

[bantering]

What did Sami do to help Eric during that time? She didn't lift a finger to help Eric, she claimed outraged and hating all things Kristen/EJ/Stefano/Dimera. She ran her mouth a lot like normal, but what did she ever do to show that love/support and do to help him? 

 

Despite the fact Nicole trashed the evidence, Nicole was the one out there looking for it. It was only her and Daniel all the time on Eric's side and trying to actually help him. Sami never lifted a finger, the only thing she did was send EJ to a different bedroom, but she never took a stand other than all her verbal tirades against the Dimeras, she made no effort at all to leave the house, stop using their money, stop working for their company, that Kristen also works and partly owns.

 

 

What's the point of looking for evidence and then trashing/shredding it though?  I'd have to contort my brain to get this, and I still wouldn't understand. Honestly, that seems to me much much worse, so whatever Nicole had to say became irrelevant to me. With friends like Nicole, who needs enemies?  It's fine if what she has to say is relevant to other people, but the comparisonn between Nicole and Sami, imo, doesn't work in proving that one person tried to help over another one. In the end, Nicole has made it much easier for anybody to get Kristen off. If the point is point how Sami has failled as a person in comparison to everyone else in the Eric drama, using Nicole as an example doesn't prove anything. More than anybody else in that town, Nicole has made it extremely difficult to bring Kristen to trial for the rape. Maybe she can be brought to trial for something else (i.e tax evasion or not doing anything about Daniels's hair?), but even if EJ didn't represent Kristen, she'd still get off. She must know this, so I have no idea why she's crowing to EJ that he must represent her. Even Gary Coleman could represent Kristen,  and she'd probably get off, and that's because of Nicole shredding the evidence.

 

The idea of comparing Nicole and Sami in this particular instance and somehow trying to say Nicole was the better one is making me look at the computer screen funny. Not doing anything at all in the end probably would have helped Eric out more. At least the evidence would have been out there for Hope to retrieve. If she had failed at using the evidence properly, as the Salem PD are wont to do, at least that would have been out of incompetence, not malice.

 

Having said that, I don't actively hate Nicole or anything, (although at times I don't find her super-exciting either),  but trying to use Nicole as an example to prove Sami's different brand of suckiness is unconvincing to me.

Edited August 14, 2014 by bantering

[ShadowSixx]

You're so right bantering, comparing Sami & Nicole in this instance is wrong. Sami may not have lifted a finger to help but far better than her shredding evidence once she found it. It's not like Eric has always been there for Sami if at all. He can't even be on her side during the EJ/Abby affair, he was concerned more about Abby than his own flesh and blood. Sami does at least stand up for Eric and be on his side when things are done wrong to him.

[sunnyheart]

When Allison leaves, does anyone know if they kill off Sami...or try to kill her?? The reason I ask is because her life was threatened more than once today.

They are definitely hinting at someone trying to murder Sami, but I don't think she will die.  Here's what I think is going to happen - the gun will be aimed at Sami, the shot will be fired, and EJ will jump in front of the gun to save his One True Love who he cheated on.  As EJ gasps his final breaths, Sami will forgive him and tell him that she loves him, has always loved him and can he please forgive her for selling the Jackson Pollock at such a greatly reduced rate.  Floods of tears ensue and from here on, EJ Dimera will known as the Saint of Salem - no one will ever again mention what a dick he was.  Sami will leave town because how can she live in the town with So Many Memories of her Lost Love.  The End.

[LeftPhalange]

People need to start walking away from Nicole whenever she starts talking about Eric or Kristen.

[sunnyheart]

People need to start walking away from Nicole whenever she starts talking about Eric or Kristen.

They need to start taking lessons from Marlena on how to look disdainfully at Nicole.

[shesajar]

It's not justified, but I at least understand why Nicole shredded the papers. She panicked because she's insecure and a total loser in love, Then she fell back into default mode to keep it covered because, well, that's what she's used to. It was stupid and she doesn't deserve to have it glossed over, but in the end, she tried to do the right thing. But, I think it's accurate to say that Sami didn't do squat for Eric except kick EJ out of her bedroom, and even then, she was quick to let him back in when she needed him to cover her own ass. I think both of them failed Eric, who is such a jackass that it doesn't even bother me at this point.

Of course, none of this would have happened if Kristen hadn't raped him, but by all means, let the people of Salem blame Nicole for everything.  Because if Kristen gets off, it will certainly be the first time that a Dimera hasn't paid for his/her crime. They always go to jail, right?

Edited August 14, 2014 by shesajar

[sunnyheart]

I see what you're saying, shesajar.  When I think about it, I guess I find Nicole's behavior more upsetting because it was such an abrupt left turn.  She was doing the right thing for Eric when she rescued him from the hotel, she withstood his awful accusations and still looked for evidence to clear his name, she was actively trying to be a better person.  And then suddenly, the writers had her destroy the evidence and ask God which nightie she should wear to seduce Eric.  WTF?  The whole thing really pissed me off.  Sami's always been a selfish asshole so I don't have a big problem with her acting like one.  Nicole, on the other hand, should be better than this. I just need the Eric/Nicole/Kristen storyline to go away and soon. 

 

And one more thing.  Why on earth would Nicole want to be with someone who tells her to her face that he hates her and does everything but spit in her face?  I can understand her wanting to repair their broken friendship but why would she want to marry this jerk?

[Jewlmc]

Nicole should be "better than that"? Since when? She and Sami have BOTH acted like Selfish assholes through the years.

[bantering]

I can understand why Nicole shredded the papers in terms of being understanding or sympathetic to her psychology (though I have a harder time understanding why she'd try to challenge God while picking out her lingerie), but in the end I think a comparison between Nicole and Sami as to who did the "better" thing, with Nicole coming out on top as the one who had Eric's interests at heart, doesn't sound persuasive to me. We can say both were wrong, but no way can I say Nicole was right while Sami was wrong.

 

I do think it's strange that people would expect Sami to find the document that put Eric in the clear however. The only reason Nicole was able to find it was because of Dan's medical knowledge. It was Daniel who had the medical insight  since he's the Doctor of All Ailments to find what could clear Eric. How would it occur to Sami to figure out what drugs are stored in some database somewhere that she could access (or whatever strange strategy Daniel used to clear Eric)? I assume Daniel was the only one could do this because he's a doctor and has medical ID.   Nicole happened to be along for the ride because she's friendly with, possibly attracted to, him.  Daniel was stupid enough to believe she'd do the right thing. Had anyone else been along for the ride (Sami, Jennifer, or even coke-fueled Brady) it's not likely that person would have shredded those documents. Nicole was still trying to hide what she did by grabbing the cell phone when she and Jennifer were stuck in that cabin with the crazy guy, further putting their lives in danger. That's way over the line desperate even beyond the shredding.

Edited August 14, 2014 by bantering

[shesajar]

 

Nicole should be "better than that"? Since when? She and Sami have BOTH acted like Selfish assholes through the years.

They both have been selfish assholes for most of their time on the show, but for me, I think Nicole was "better than that" because she spent the previous year being a relatively decent person, staying out of trouble, atoning for her sins, and whatnot. Sami? Not so much. They were headed towards a redemption story with Nicole and screwed it up for no good reason. The logical next step would have been for Nicole to *not* destroy the evidence, but this show has a huge problem with linear thinking.

As good as AZ is in scheming, gold digger mode, I think she's much better when she's allowed to be something a little further down the evil chain. Certainly not the sad sack that she's become, but somewhere in between the two. She does light and flirty very well, too. Instead, they make her either a monster or a pathetic loser (or somehow both!). It's another example of this show being unable or unwilling to write characters to the actors' strengths. It's the same with AS. I never bought Sami as the romantic heroine that they were selling her as since EJ and Rafe came on the scene because AS acting is better in family-oriented scenes and/or as an over the top schemer.

[Artsda]

 

Sami thought that Austin was Will's father, until a DNA test proved otherwise.  Of course, once she got the proof, she did hide it to marry Austin anyway, 

Exactly and let Will/Lucas/Austin living that lie and then when it got outed, she accused Lucas of abusing Will to keep Will from getting to know his father. Will has every right to have a lot of hate for Sami more so than Lucas for his childhood.

[bantering]

I think Lucas was just as bad as Sami for letting her take the fall for Franco's murder and nearly sending her to the electric chair.

 

Most people would be mad at their fathers for that if we're going to go back in time as to what all of their faults were.

 

In the recent past, both parents have helped him out. He'll be pretty useless when they're both gone from his life since he doesn't know how to handle anything on his own.

Edited August 14, 2014 by bantering

[ParadoxLost]

When Allison leaves, does anyone know if they kill off Sami...or try to kill her?? The reason I ask is because her life was threatened more than once today.

 

If they did, that would be the funniest investigation in the history of Salem.  The first murder where every suspect that threatened the victim actually has no motive.

 

Did anyone else get the feeling that Marlena and Roman don't know about Abby/EJ and may not actually know that EJ and Sami are broken up.  Their chatter during Sami and Nicole's confrontation was off.

 

A lot off the dialogue today seemed off, more so than usual.  It was weird that Marlena was the one running around explaining to the cops how Kristen was going to be handled, like they gave Marlena Hope or Roman's lines because she has some kind of minimum or something.

 

Daniel is spouting off like he's a cop and the sole reason that Kristen wasn't brought in before now.

 

Roman had this bizarrely worded exchange with Eric that was a total Marlena I'm pretending I'm interested in what happened so I look like a good parent, but I'm not really that interested move.  Just a really ham-handed way to get the Sami/Eric/Nicole confrontation redirected. 

 

I think that Eric's dig at Sami's kids was supposed underline that Eric is too angry at the world to be a priest but the writing and acting failed and it didn't come across.

 

Yesterday was like all the acting, writing, and directing problems on the show decided to throw a parade.

 

It was all underscored by the one moment I actually loved which was Eric hustling Sami out of the station, holding hands, to talk privately about the Vatican.  This show was so stupid to have Eric come back as a priest instead disillusioned and more than a little willing to scheme with his twin.  I think that could have been fun.  There was something about AS's energy in that scene that woke GV up for ten seconds.

[TigerLynx]

Yesterday was like all the acting, writing, and directing problems on the show decided to throw a parade.

 

 

Hee!!!

 

Roman and Marlena don’t know.  Sami hasn’t told them.  Jenn has told more people than Sami has, and Will is about to tell the world.  Will is an idiot if he thinks other reporters won’t go looking for more information after his article is published.

 

The anvils dropping with everyone blaming Sami for everything, and threatening her are giving me a headache.  I don’t believe Sami will die, but it looks like someone will try to kill her, and everyone will be suspects.  Except for Kate, the person who has tried to kill Sami in the past, and who is now Sami’s co-conspirator and roommate.  All the elements are here for a great SL, and yet the writers keep failing.

 

Eric’s comments about Sami’s children were so out of line, and not true at all.  Allie, Johnny, and Sydney are all very well behaved children.  I think it’s hilarious that Sami/Lucas’ daughter, Allie, is the good girl, and Bo/Hope’s daughter, Ciara, is the hellion.

[ParadoxLost]

The anvils dropping with everyone blaming Sami for everything, and threatening her are giving me a headache.  I don’t believe Sami will die, but it looks like someone will try to kill her, and everyone will be suspects.  Except for Kate, the person who has tried to kill Sami in the past, and who is now Sami’s co-conspirator and roommate.  All the elements are here for a great SL, and yet the writers keep failing.

 

I still think this is as simple as giving Sami a reason to decide to leave town.

 

What I do find a little interesting, in a why are the writers doing it this way {rather than this show is interesting}, is how they are playing this out.

 

Will is writing the story to justify why Sami would leave one of her kids behind.

 

Beyond that, the characters that are most closely tied to Sami's history are on her side {Kate} or basically absent from the story {Roman, Marlena, Eric, Lucas}.  Heck Lucas found out, didn't have a scene with Sami, and left town.  Its almost like they don't want to burn those bridges so they've gone with not including them in the story instead of handing them the pitchforks to drive Sami out of town.

[JBC344]

Days doesn't seem to have the foresight to write nuance anymore.  There is such a rich history between all these characters to mine that just gets swept under the rug.  For example, Roman and Kristen, the fact that Roman is alive, healthy, and in Salem because Kristen is the one who saved him and brought him back.  Yes, she had ulterior motives but Roman's woe is me "You used me Kristen" is a little flat considering if she didn't use you, you would be dead now. 

[Jewlmc]

I think it's just because they know we know AS is leaving. So they are trying to make it "interesting" by making it seem like Sami might be killed. Of course, as mentioned, the "motives" are incredibly weak. Even for this show.

"She was mean to Abby",

"She made me fire Abby"

"She showed me my daughter Slept with her husband"

"I slept with her husband and she dared to get mad"

"I Shredded evidence of Kristen's guilt. Therefore it's Sami's fault."

Stupid. If anyone goes after Sami it would be Stephano. But somehow I think he'll be more pissed at Kate.

[bantering]

They're spending an inordinate amount of time trying to make Daniel look like a hero. Which I guess would explain the smug he borrowed from Rafe when he brought Kristen in. At least Rafe is an actual police officer.

[shesajar]

Who might kill Sami is stupid because, lack of motive aside, none of these people would actually do it. Maybe Nicole, but even that seems unlikely. Even knowing as little as we do about what goes on in Abby's head, it's doubtful that she'd do it. If they did want to kill her off, and I don't think they do, Will is the way to go. I'd actually like that, because it would get him off the show, too!

If EJ takes a bullet meant for Sam like in sunnyheart's scenario (which. god, I don't even want to think about)  my guess is that it was fired by a Dimera henchman under Stefano's orders. Or EJ's and he has a last minute change of heart...that would be awesome! And by awesome, I mean hilariously bad.

[sunnyheart]

Nicole should be "better than that"? Since when? She and Sami have BOTH acted like Selfish assholes through the years.

 

 

They both have been selfish assholes for most of their time on the show, but for me, I think Nicole was "better than that" because she spent the previous year being a relatively decent person, staying out of trouble, atoning for her sins, and whatnot. Sami? Not so much. They were headed towards a redemption story with Nicole and screwed it up for no good reason. The logical next step would have been for Nicole to *not* destroy the evidence, but this show has a huge problem with linear thinking.

Thank you, shesajar, that's exactly what I meant by saying Nicole was "better than that".  Ever since she accused Jennifer of killing her baby, Nicole has been on a steady path of redemption and it was clear that she was becoming a better person who was genuinely remorseful for the awful things she's done.  I'm not sure I've ever seen that from Sami.  She just careens impulsively from one situation to the next.

 

I think I would have enjoyed Nicole shredding the evidence if I thought she was coming from a place of Evil instead of pathetic neediness.  I like my asshole villians to be really Evil and Dastardly, not terrified by the thought of living alone with cats.

 

If EJ takes a bullet meant for Sam like in sunnyheart's scenario (which. god, I don't even want to think about)  my guess is that it was fired by a Dimera henchman under Stefano's orders. Or EJ's and he has a last minute change of heart...that would be awesome! And by awesome, I mean hilariously bad.

Ha!  EJ hires a hitman, the hitman aims for Sami, EJ suddenly flashes to tender memories of his One True Love, and throws himself onto the hitman's gun just in time.  Perfect! I like it!  the only other thing that's needed is for Sami to spit on his body.

[Jewlmc]

You know what isn't ok, Sonny? Your husband writing an expose on his and your family. Sami jerking your mom's sanctimonious chain doesn't come close.

[ParadoxLost]

So the editor hands Sami the article, they show the hourglass and then there is a scream and blood spattered walls {from a promo on a new fall show} and I thought yep that is about right.  I hope Sami takes Will's head off.  What a smug little shit.

[CaughtOnTape]

They're spending an inordinate amount of time trying to make Daniel look like a hero. 

 

Uh....since the MINUTE he walked on set.

 

So the editor hands Sami the article, they show the hourglass and then there is a scream and blood spattered walls {from a promo on a new fall show} and I thought yep that is about right.  I hope Sami takes Will's head off.  What a smug little shit.

 

He done learned from his momma!

[LeftPhalange]

I'm worried Sonny is inching closer and closer to turning against Sami. If they have him turn into another Abby apologist I'm going to react. Why can't they just let him stay neutral.

 

STFU Abby complaining about not having any references. Why don't you ask one of your apologists for a job.

 

They better not let EJ die or leave town without truth about Will shooting him coming out.

[bantering]

Didn't Abigail ever volunteer anywhere to use a reference? Can't she ask a professor? I guess Austin is out of the question, however. Though he's so dumb he might throw her a bone...

[oceanblue]

Daniel is the center of the Salem universe.  Just accept that and keep your hand on the fast forward button.  It'll be ok.

[ShadowSixx]

Will is such an ass, and yes Sami is the victim, you fucking idiot. Sonny is the only one with common sense in Salem. He knows that Sami told Adrienne about the fake affair to get Adrienne to know what she feels and Will forever the dumbass saying it's a pathetic excuse.

 

RoboMar telling Brady to calm down when she couldn't shut her mouth yesterday when Hope told her to be quiet multiple times. Such a laugh.

 

The rest was really just filler and boring material.

[bantering]

EJ: "Samantha Brady, you have to hear what I am going to say..."

 

Me: "No, just stop talking, your accent is irritating the heck out of me..."

[Rick Kitchen]

God, I never knew Will was actually an idiot.  Gee, maybe your mother is acting like a victim because she is a victim, you asshole.  You don't deserve Sonny.  But I can't wait for tomorrow when Sami will have to confront Will about the article, right?  Will EJ come down on Will too?

 

Too bad Clyde doesn't have a lady friend, then Abigail would be all over him.

[ParadoxLost]

This article just proves that Sonny and Will are doomed.  Will has no right to go teaching people lessons and he uses tactics he learned from EJ, Sami, and Lucas.  Only difference is that EJ, Sami, and Lucas never had a tendency to view themselves as righteous in the doing.  Sonny is too weak to actually stand up to Will.  Instead he half heartedly tries to point out that Will is being unnecessarily hurtful to Sami and then praises Will for his writing when Will doesn't see it.

 

I mean seriously,  even Will's editor was dumbfounded that he hadn't given his Mother a heads up.

 

I am loving that Will has no idea that "fact checking" is letting his Mom read it before it goes to press and he's going to get blindsided by her rage.

[radishcake]

My favorite quote today: 

why she'd try to challenge God while picking out her lingerie

hee! Thanks for the laugh @bantering!

[TigerLynx]

I wish Sami's final scenes and Kate/Sami's revenge had gone like this.  Sami marries EJ, has him arrested, gets control of DE, Kate/Sami do all the damage they have planned before EJ gets out of jail, when EJ gets to the mansion Sami and the children are gone, and he is served with divorce papers, and EJ can't leave Salem because he is under house arrest.  I'm going to be so annoyed if Sami gets back together with EJ.  I'm tired of EJ acting like he is doing Sami a favor by claiming to choose her and the children.  He did not choose them when it really counted.  EJ does not love Sami, he never has.  He is obsessed with her, and now that the object (and that is how EJ sees Sami, as an object) of his obsession has gotten out from under his thumb, he is desperate to regain control of her.

 

Now I want both Will and Sonny to fry in hell along with EJ.

 

I see Brady is trying to regain his title of "Dumbest Man in Salem,"  It's tough competition this year for it.

 

Sami should disown Will, pack up her other children, give complete control of DE to Kate, and leave Salem.

 

It did like the high five Kate/Sami gave each other.  That was funny.

[ShadowSixx]

STFU Abby complaining about not having any references. Why don't you ask one of your apologists for a job.

 

 

Abby is a fucktard cause if she thinks about it she does have references that are not family. She has Jordan who will be a professional reference since her and Jordan are friends. She has Maxine another business non family reference, she's a Dan ass kisser and a Horton worshipper. T is her friend so there's another reference who can speak for her character or lack thereof. Brady sits on the board at the hospital and is a friend of rancid Jenn so I'm sure he would put in a good word for her too. Johnny can even say that his dad loves her "cupcakes". She's just being an idiot and expect people to do the work for her just like BOllie is job searching for her.

 

There she goes once again boo hooing it up so that people can feel sorry for her. She loves to play victim.

Edited August 15, 2014 by ShadowSixx

[boes]

I see Brady is trying to regain his title of "Dumbest Man in Salem,"  It's tough competition this year for it.

 

And I think we can declare him the winner, hands down!   There was our bonehead boy wonder, shouting and trying to bully the cops to get his way.  It was refreshing, though, to see him attacking a man instead of a woman, his usual target.  What I'm not able to understand is why anyone thinks it's better when he's sober and not high?  At least when he's snortin' and sniffin' and pouring booze down that gullet of his, he's less trouble to the world at large.  

Victor's idiot grandson.....Victor deserves so much better.  Jawn, on the other hand, does not.

And did you see the Miracle?  Marlena's face....it moved!  I know it sounds like I was drinking when I was watching the show (that came later, watching Will), but I swear I saw the corner of her lower left lip move when she was trying to get Brady to STFU.  Or it may just have been a mosquito on my screen....

 

And speaking of STFU, I'd be fine if not one more word ever came out of Will's mouth.  I WOULD like, though, for him to start making SQUEEK SQUEEK sounds like the ferret-faced rat he is - those noises would be fine.  That little git needs to lose and lose big.  They could start by having him gnaw on some hamster food and have Sonny grumble about having to clean up the pellets the little rodent keeps leaving in the sofa and all over the carpet.

 

I'm cutting Sonny a little bit of slack right now, since it looks like he's trying to stay out of the way while making his concerns known.  That's doomed to failure, though.  I wish he'd remembered that when it came to the long haul, Sami has been there for him and Will and their relationship, while his own mother has been half-hearted, at best.  And while Adrienne hasn't exactly welcomed Will with open arms, Sami has made it clear more than once how thrilled she is that Sonny is in Will's life.  

If Sonny is afraid that standing up to Will about this would damage their relationship, then things are shakier than they look.  And if he doesn't at least make the case as to why this is a bad idea, then he's falling into the same ratass category as that rodent he's married to is in.

All of this is SO unfair to rats....

 

Poor Abigail!  When Clyde started talking to her she was just flummoxed by the whole conversation.  And who could blame her?  Not once, NOT ONCE! did Clyde center the conversation around Abigail and HER LIFE.  Instead he just droned on and on and on about him and his kids.  The nerve of that guy......no wonder Abigail zoned out.  It's been so long since she had a conversation that wasn't exclusively about her and her life that I'm sure she couldn't understand a word.

BTW, I hope she's the one who has to drink that concoction Ollie had her make at the bar.  I'd be quite happy if Show decided to have Abigail puking her guts out in Horton Square tomorrow - probably - GASP!  - Abigail's lips quivering, "I puked in the EXACT SPOT where Nick was killed".  I dunno, could be a whole new storyline, Abigail puking in all of Salem's historical spots.

How did I get so far off subject??  

Oh, I know, the image of Dirty Dan at the police station yesterday naturally led me to puking which led me to Abigail.

 

And how much are you pitying Tammy Flue?  She's got the sad face going on over Rafe sleeping with Kate, and that sad face is HUGE.  But it seems she just can't get sweaty Rafe out of her sad little brain.  And then, POOF!, like magic, sweaty Rafe and HIS tiny little brain appeared right in front of her.  This is such an edge of your seat storyline, isn't it?  By 'edge of your seat', I really mean 'great time to go get something to eat or go to the bathroom and hope they're gone when you get back' sort of thing.

 

And there was Kristen, on her Barbie Princess phone having an imaginary phone call with Daddy.  Too bad the phone wasn't hooked up.  

I really don't see why Show wants to keep Kristen and Brady apart.  They do so much deserve each other.  Or in Salem parlance, to "be happy".

 

Now, everybody out there BE HAPPY till tomorrow's episode!

Edited August 15, 2014 by boes

[Black Knight]

I am loving that Will has no idea that "fact checking" is letting his Mom read it before it goes to press and he's going to get blindsided by her rage.

 

I really hope now is when she tells him that she found and destroyed the evidence against him.

 

I'm also hoping she slaps him again. Twice for good measure.

 

Ordinarily, I would actually like them to, shockingly, end up having a great conversation where he finally understands her point of view and her hurt and, while she doesn't apologize for all the EVIL <eyeroll> she's done to Abby to date, she promises to exclusively focus her ire on EJ going forward. And then in classic soap fashion, he tries to get the article killed, but it's too late. The Sami fan in me wants that. But that expression he gets on his face just drives me up the wall so much that ultimately, I just want blood, blood and more blood.

 

I am enthralled by Abby's job search. What persistence and drive she's showing! I think she works harder brushing her hair each day than she has on this...

[annabel]

Yeah, that Will doesn't think Sami and EJ might be offered a chance to comment and perhaps negate what's been written about them is pretty naive and stupid. I hope this all blows up in his face.

[Petunia13]

Abby is a fucktard cause if she thinks about it she does have references that are not family. She has Jordan who will be a professional reference since her and Jordan are friends. She has Maxine another business non family reference, she's a Dan ass kisser and a Horton worshipper. T is her friend so there's another reference who can speak for her character or lack thereof. Brady sits on the board at the hospital and is a friend of rancid Jenn so I'm sure he would put in a good word for her too. Johnny can even say that his dad loves her "cupcakes". She's just being an idiot and expect people to do the work for her just like BOllie is job searching for her.

There she goes once again boo hooing it up so that people can feel sorry for her. She loves to play victim.

Not only that. I thought she was some great art history enthusiast and academic mastermind so why doesn't dum dum have any academic references? Those can be used for letters of recommendation. Maybe that was just some stupid shit she boasted about to Sami that was grossly exaggerated.

[boes]

Not only that. I thought she was some great art history enthusiast and academic mastermind so why doesn't dum dum have any academic references? Those can be used for letters of recommendation. Maybe that was just some stupid shit she boasted about to Sami that was grossly exaggerated.

 

Too silly.

We all know that EJ would write her a GLOWING letter of recommendation.  

As would Austin.

And lets now forget Chad.

Maaaaaaaaaaybe not Carrie, though, and definitely not Sami.

 

But she's got the Dimera men in the bag.  So to speak.

Edited August 15, 2014 by boes

[oceanblue]

Kayla can give Abby a reference, who's going to know that the COS, Dr. Brady (Johnson?) is her aunt, and Kayla doesn't have to say she resigned for cause.  Daniel would be a reference.   

Edited August 15, 2014 by oceanblue

[ParadoxLost]

Kayla can give Abby a reference, who's doing to know that the COS, Dr. Brady (Johnson?) is her aunt, and Kayla doesn't have to say she resigned for cause.  Daniel would be a reference.   

 

I'm pretending that Abby is just too embarrassed to ask for reference.  If the reason why Abby resigned becomes known outside of the family, then I could see the Hospital legal team not allowing their employees to offer a reference.

 

Companies are pretty weird on this subject.  They require references but they can be very particular about actually giving them out and that can extend to employees.

 

Back to Will and his article.  He really disgusts me.  He's basically taking the position that he'll heap so much misery on Sami that she won't have time to lash out.  Maybe if he spent some time with her, he'd notice that the only people she is lashing out at are the ones getting in her face because they can't mind their own business.  So piling more of that on, great plan Will.  That will work, idiot.

 

Completely forgot.  Are they setting up that Kate is going to pull Sami and DE into drug running to keep Clyde quiet?

Edited August 15, 2014 by ParadoxLost

[QuelleC]

 

Companies are pretty weird on this subject.  They require references but they can be very particular about actually giving them out and that can extend to employees.

I didn't want to be boring with my opinion on this subject, but since we're still discussing it and I needed a job last month to attempt to keep my house... I've been updating my references.  Most places will not accept relatives at all.  I had a good coworker who got promoted who let me know that as a supervisor she could no longer be a reference for anybody.  I also have a former supervisor at the same place who was also fired along with everyone else (200+), but is now working with the county human services department. I have to list their jobs most of the time but I'm afraid it makes me appear I was looking for welfare or something if I include her. I will anyway because she's great.  It's not always easy. So I don't think Dan or Kayla from the hospital are allowed to give her a reference.

 

Anyway, I don't read spoilers (it prevents me from being bored since things drag out long enough) but it feels like this is heading toward Abs thinking she can bully EJ into a job.  She probably thinks he owes her or something.  Of course he wouldn't be able to help but that's beside the point for Abs. Or maybe she'll blackmail Sami once the article comes out. I actually give her points for trying since she doesn't need a job, but needing to have Ben print out the local job listings looked pretty lame to me.  End of "defending" Abby...Hey at least she kept her mouth shut and her eyes unbugged during Clyde. Oh, I got the ICK big time with Ben rubbing up against her ass.

 

Last but not least, boes you really outdid yourself with that last recap.  I really need the laughs right now and you are just the best.

Edited August 15, 2014 by QuelleC

[SwordQueen]

So I just binge-watched Friday’s and all of this week’s episodes minus today.  It’s all a blur of beige and grey, so I am just going to ramble for a bit until my eyes adjust and I can see color again. 

 

 

I’ve been noticing hair a lot more lately (what else is there to do?).  For as much as the stylists must hate MR, JL must be a favorite.  Her hair seems to be the most consistently good.  It’s so shiny, it makes me happy.  Like something I could aspire to.  Maybe it’s all the coke.  Something to think about, for sure.   ED/Kristen’s hair looks much better after S&M scenes with Dan when it’s all tussled and wild.  Dan looks much better during S&M scenes with Kristen when he’s gagged and getting punched in the gut (and I don’t even hate Dan all of the time).

 

Love how the patented Marlena hypocrisy was in full-swing at the precinct.  She wants Kristen’s life completely destroyed?  She wants five minutes alone with her?  That sounds like revenge there, Mar. 

 

I really hope Sonny doesn’t turn into a pod like the rest of ‘em.  He’s the only proof that Salem-style  inbreeding hasn’t completely stupefied the whole town yet.  Well, there’s Ciara, but time will tell if she’s more Kiriakas or Horton.

 

I wish Sami and Kate would just fake their own deaths and go off into the sunset together, bickering and drinking martinis. 

 

Nicole, please take off that sad sack (literally!) dress with the hot-glued plastic pearl collar, thank you.  All I think when I look at it is what a lovely ‘pearl necklace’ you’re sporting, but that’s not very appropriate for the Vatican (I don’t think).

 

 

 

And everyone in Salem needs to play a round of ‘musical chairs’ – and anyone who doesn’t TAKE A SEAT needs to be thrown in the river.  I’m looking at you, Adrianne – you’d better shut the fuck up for a hot second so you can listen for when the music stops. And please, can the music just stop already?  I'm looking at you, Corday. You're next. 

 

JS/EJ has been looking a bit peaked lately.  

So as it turns out, Abs isn't so S-M-R-T as she (and everyone) thinks she is.  Well, I'm shocked. 

Nicole...yeah.  Gurl, I know you want a baby like really badly, but you don't need to settle for that man-child.   
I miss Kate and Sami in their domestic bliss.
Eric is an ass full stop. 
Shut up, shut up, shut up [everyone].

Edited August 15, 2014 by SwordQueen

[worleybird]

Anybody else notice one of the bottles Ben was training Abigail with was labeled, "150 Proof. Rafael Hernandez Spiced Jamaican Rum."

[LeftPhalange]

I expect Will to write a follow up article detailing how he tried to murder EJ and let his father go to prison for it. He should also talk about how how EJ, Sonny, and the Super Evil Sami had to step in and save his ass because he was just going to let Nick steal his kid otherwise. Finally, he should mention how much of a spineless weakling he is and how he let the mother of his child be manipulated by Nick again which resulted in her killing him and going to prison.

[bantering]

 

 

I'm cutting Sonny a little bit of slack right now, since it looks like he's trying to stay out of the way while making his concerns known.  That's doomed to failure, though.  I wish he'd remembered that when it came to the long haul, Sami has been there for him and Will and their relationship, while his own mother has been half-hearted, at best.  And while Adrienne hasn't exactly welcomed Will with open arms, Sami has made it clear more than once how thrilled she is that Sonny is in Will's life.  

If Sonny is afraid that standing up to Will about this would damage their relationship, then things are shakier than they look.  And if he doesn't at least make the case as to why this is a bad idea, then he's falling into the same ratass category as that rodent he's married to is in.

All of this is SO unfair to rats....

 

Poor Abigail!  When Clyde started talking to her she was just flummoxed by the whole conversation.  And who could blame her?  Not once, NOT ONCE! did Clyde center the conversation around Abigail and HER LIFE.  Instead he just droned on and on and on about him and his kids.  The nerve of that guy......no wonder Abigail zoned out.  It's been so long since she had a conversation that wasn't exclusively about her and her life that I'm sure she couldn't understand a word.

BTW, I hope she's the one who has to drink that concoction Ollie had her make at the bar.  I'd be quite happy if Show decided to have Abigail puking her guts out in Horton Square tomorrow - probably - GASP!  - Abigail's lips quivering, "I puked in the EXACT SPOT where Nick was killed".  I dunno, could be a whole new storyline, Abigail puking in all of Salem's historical spots.

How did I get so far off subject??  

 

I wondered why she was staring at Clyde like that -- I don't quite remember that being an acting strategy she had when she first started on the show.

 

Whenever she starts staring at anybody like that, I start trying to assess the symmetry of her face -- like, has she lost weight recently or something and that's why her face balances itself out that way???

 

I could see the resemblance to Jodie Arias again when she looked blankly at Clyde.

Edited August 15, 2014 by bantering

[ShadowSixx]

Does BOllie think that he can just have anyone behind the bar mixing drinks that's not an employee? Sonny needs to fire his ass, cause he also gave Grimace Sue a free drink and he was a new employee and still kinda is.

 

Also right about Abby just staring at Clyde with a blank look completely spaced out like she didn't know what was going on and why nobody is talking about her.

Edited August 15, 2014 by ShadowSixx

[ASpring1900]

Anybody else notice one of the bottles Ben was training Abigail with was labeled, "150 Proof. Rafael Hernandez Spiced Jamaican Rum."

 

I did not notice that-- good catch! I love little details like that.

[sunnyheart]

Anyway, I don't read spoilers (it prevents me from being bored since things drag out long enough) but it feels like this is heading toward Abs thinking she can bully EJ into a job.  She probably thinks he owes her or something. 

I would love for Abigail to ask EJ for a job.  I would love to watch the dismayed look on his face as he tries to say no. I hope she pursues him as aggressively for a job as she did for sex. EJ has become such a joke that it's amusing for me to watch people manipulate him and make him dance to their tune. The scene where Victor revealed he just bought the Dimera companies and asked EJ to consult was a thing of beauty.  Victor's wicked amusement while EJ was blinking and stuttering was so much fun for me.