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And more with Anne and the cats.  I get it, writers.  You think that people who like cats are pathetic losers.  FUCK OFF.

 

 

Anne has cats? Anne rescues cats? Fuck you, Show! It just makes me love her more! And anyone who says anything bad about cats in Salem will earn my well deserved ire!

 

 

I like Anne.  And I love cats.  So unless she's a hoarder, the writers can just shut up about Anne and her cats.

 

I would cheer if Anne's cat went commando and threw up in ALL of Jenn's, Abigail's, Maggie's, Melanie's, Serena's, Brady's and Dan's shoes - on an hourly basis for an indefinite period.

And when the cats got tired, I'd step in and do it.

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So Kristen returns to town in 2012 after causing trouble and committing crimes...and Jennifer/Daniel forgive her.  Anne Millbauer just schemes and calls people out on their crap and the whole town thinks she's evil?C

 

Color me confused on the ethical rules in Salem especially when Female Chompers back on the scene to chew down the scenary.

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Wow.  All this rage toward her already?  I didn't think she did anything wrong.  She just wanted to make sure what was contracted toward her was right.  That was it.  Sure, she was a bit aggressive in how she went about it, but . . . look at whom she was dealing with.  I'd have gotten overzealous, too.

 

 Anne was completely inappropriate in her behavior towards Serena and I hated that Theresa was smirking right along with Anne, but Serena took it a step too far when she started to threaten Anne that she was going to lose her job unless Anne did as Serena said.  Two wrongs do not make a right and yet I'm supposed to think Anne is horrible but that Serena is the bestest ever?  They both came out looking stupid but I don't think that's what the show intended.

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Wow.  All this rage toward her already?  I didn't think she did anything wrong.  She just wanted to make sure what was contracted toward her was right.  That was it.  Sure, she was a bit aggressive in how she went about it, but . . . look at whom she was dealing with.  I'd have gotten overzealous, too.

 

Serena should have been upset with the person that called and hung up on her. She goes and gets upset with Anne after Anne told her that her hiring was last minute and someone from the HR department didn't notify Anne in time. So whoever it was that just called and was short with Serena and hung up on her needs to be either fired or talked to because that person is possibly the person that didn't notify Anne, plus Anne didn't get the contract specifying on the location of where Serena's office should be. If she came up to me talking all that attitude and telling me to get her keys and do it now, we would have some serious problems. If I was Anne I would have told her that I would see what I can do and look into it, I wouldn't cave into her. Serena came off as an entitled bitch.

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Yep, feeling Serena even less after today's episode. I'm not looking forward to seeing her pull that same smug crap with Nicole and come out on top, which seems inevitable unless the show decides to take a break from making Nicole pathetic.

 

I think I'm the only one who doesn't mind Dan and Nicole together. Never have really. I can't explain it, except maybe anyone is better than Judgey Jen.

I like them, too, even when they were hooking up when she was all knocked up by EJ. 

 

I didn't fast forward at all this episode, even when Daniel and Maggie were giggling over what an insensitive twit Melanie is.

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I'm not done with Serena yet,  but like a lot of you, I didn't care for her highhanded way of behaving in a place she's never set foot before and then getting aggressive with someone she's never met before.  I think everyone who has ever held a job knows that the LAST thing you do - if you want to enjoy your work experience - is to step on toes and come off as entitled on your first day.  Serena managed to do this before she even started.  I saw a bit of her OLTL Natalie in that attitude, and that's guaranteed to NOT make me like her.  And Mel....I don't remember her being this grating before.  But I'm going to give them both more time and more rope to hang themselves with before sending them off to Hortonville.  Serena, for one, might make Eric more palatable, or perhaps even more interesting.  And Melanie isn't Abigail and she isn't Jenn.  Neither is Serena.  That ALONE puts them ahead of the game.  Watching Miss Polly Pureheart smirking away while Anne got reamed out by Serena, secure in her cast-iron panties was very grating.  It was bad enough to have to listen to her sneer at Theresa and Anne earlier because she had evesdropped on their conversation.  

I don't know when I've seen Show manage to be so consistent in pushing Abigail and Jenn - two of the most repellent characters on daytime, past and present - on the viewers with such relentless enthusiasm.  Ain't workin', Show!  WE HATE THEM BOTH.

 

And if Mel and Serena join the Horton Coven, then they'll both be in the same boat.  

 

Excuse me while I go inform the neighborhood cats that Jenn hides tuna in her underwear drawer and Abigail hides catnip in her....ummm......well, what OTHER explanation IS THERE for how idiotic guys get around the Hobbit??

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I'm going to give Serena a chance but she really needs to get away from Abifail and her rancid mother.

 

At this point I think Theresa is even more isolated than Nicole. Nicole has golden boy's Dan and Brady on her side and all Theresa has is glorified day player Ann and maybe Eve. I hate that the writers have Melanie aligning herself with Abistank again. I don't remember her being this judgmental before and she should definitely be sympathetic towards Theresa since she was an outcast when she first came to town herself. Jar Jar Binks and her rancid raccoon mother really ruin everything.

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A day without Abifail & Bollie is one to be treasured even if it was a boring day

 

Love Jen's new do but she still gets on my nerves.

 

And while I love Nicole - I don't want to see her with Dr. Tan - why can't they put her with Brady or Rafe?    She sparks more with those two then Dr. Tan

 

I really do love Aiden/Hope & interested to see where his story goes - I want to believe him but I feel like he's not telling the whole story.

 

Still don't know if I like Serena or not - I feel like they are rushing this connection with Eric & that annoys me.

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I've just realized that Melanie kind of looks like ...Rose McGowan?

 

She has really awful red-carpet style though. I wonder if that affected her ability to get parts outside of soaps (besides the weird face contorting and snorting).

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I would cheer if Anne's cat went commando and threw up in ALL of Jenn's, Abigail's, Maggie's, Melanie's, Serena's, Brady's and Dan's shoes - on an hourly basis for an indefinite period.

And when the cats got tired, I'd step in and do it.

Better yet. They get Toonces to make a cameo and have him run them all over.

"Toonces look out!"

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Serena's conflict with Ann was so completely contrived, it was stupid. They both ended up looking unprofessional. But I'm so completely over Ann's constant, indiscriminate venom, it's hard for me to care. That hospital is clearly run by idiots. But we knew that already. "Someone in HR" decided? I thought Ann was in HR? Why am I even bothering to worry about this?

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I've just realized that Melanie kind of looks like ...Rose McGowan?

 

She has really awful red-carpet style though. I wonder if that affected her ability to get parts outside of soaps (besides the weird face contorting and snorting).

To me, the actress playing Melanie is as talented as KM or the chick playing Serena which is to say not very.  They are typical soap opera actresses in that they are either very over-dramatic or stilted beyond belief and they don't have a very deep range of emotion.  In a couple of years they will be carbon copies of Maggie with her overwrought reactions to everything.

 

LK, KA, MR,JL, AZ and MBE, could easily get jobs outside of soaps because they can emote like nobodies business but they also have great subtlety in how they react to scenes/characters.

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I'm going to give Serena a chance but she really needs to get away from Abifail and her rancid mother.

 

At this point I think Theresa is even more isolated than Nicole. Nicole has golden boy's Dan and Brady on her side and all Theresa has is glorified day player Ann and maybe Eve. I hate that the writers have Melanie aligning herself with Abistank again. I don't remember her being this judgmental before and she should definitely be sympathetic towards Theresa since she was an outcast when she first came to town herself. Jar Jar Binks and her rancid raccoon mother really ruin everything.

You're right about Theresa. It's especially weird because she's a freaking Brady and there are so many of them. You can't swing one of Anne's cats without hitting a Brady in Salem!  Even Sami, at her worst, wasn't treated so horribly by her own family, and Theresa's got miles to go before she hits Sami-level awfulness.  I think that whole family (as a family unit, not as individuals) is terrible.

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I think that is the problem with Theresa, she has nobody in her family that fully supports her. Eve just uses Theresa to do her bidding (keep eye on JJ & Lima Bean, give me blood for my throat, etc.) and uses sarcastic support on her instead of sincere support. She barely had any scenes with Sami even though the both of them are alike and Eric just tells her not to do things like she's his child. Her parents, I have no clue. All she has is Anne.

 

Everytime a new character surfaces or whatnot Theresa is mostly the main target and gets ragged on by the "good" bitches of Salem with the whole stay away from Theresa, Theresa is evil, Theresa is the devil. They act like Theresa is a pedophile when they communicate with people who have done equally or more disturbing things than Theresa. It amazes me how most of Salem want to forgive Miss Rapey for her numerous crimes and have normal conversations with her but Theresa doesn't get that. 

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To me, the actress playing Melanie is as talented as KM or the chick playing Serena which is to say not very.  They are typical soap opera actresses in that they are either very over-dramatic or stilted beyond belief and they don't have a very deep range of emotion.  In a couple of years they will be carbon copies of Maggie with her overwrought reactions to everything.

 

LK, KA, MR,JL, AZ and MBE, could easily get jobs outside of soaps because they can emote like nobodies business but they also have great subtlety in how they react to scenes/characters.

 

Of that list I think I would agree about maybe the last three, but if they were that great they wouldn't be in soaps. I've always found MA delightful. Shakespearean? No, but none of them are. MBE is definitely being wasted.

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I think JL might have a shot outside of soaps, but that might be because of her youth. She's still young enough (or looks young enough) to make the leap. 

 

I do think soaps give stability (as long as you don't get on the wrong side of a producer), so I can see how someone who has financial savvy  and certain degree of smarts about how brutal Hollywood can be (i.e AS) would decide being stuck on one is the best way to go. There are other actors who I think could go farther, but I can see why maybe they wouldn't want to take the risk. 

 

If KM wants to work with Woody Allen, I have no idea why she agreed to do a soap though. No matter how good you are, once you get stuck on a soap for a couple of years, you seem to get stuck with a certain label.

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Holy crap, but Melanie almost went five minutes without something going her way.  Oh the torture!  And what was with the scrunched up baby face when Brady was talking to her?

 

And while I hated Brady's threatening both Anne and Theresa, I do agree that Theresa needs to learn to get along with people or otherwise she'll continue to be isolated.  I thought she made a good start talking with Hope, but that hasn't happened again.

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I always thought that it played like Paul had requested Sneasel to write his article because he liked the way Chad's was written, and he wanted to have some control over what Zoe wrote.

Now, it looks like Zoe and her boss know that Paul is gay (either cos they have a hunch or thanks to Derrick), because it looks like they are sending Will to bait Paul.

Zoe said Will was chosen cos he was a 'better fit' so it looks like Zoe would have called Will to write it anyway. Paul requesting Will (if he in fact did) probably plays into Zoe's plan because she can always turn it around and say 'you requested him.'

Letting Paul think he's calling the shots is smart.

LOL for Sonny if Paul tries it on with Will. Will is the one who is gonna visit Paul's hotel room on the regular, so maybe he is the one that TMZ Bellhop will get pics of. With all the talk of Paul not being a monk, maybe the show will go there.

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Who is Brie?

 

I didn't think the guy playing Aiden was capable of being menacing, but I guess I was wrong...

 

I'm not down with Nicole's hair.

 

Where did Kristen take Teresea's embryo? Did she literally take it out of Teresa's womb?

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Did you all see how Brady cares more about Melame than Jawn. He never went after Theresa like that over the fire poker incident. Serena is a Dr. Do Me worshipper, ugh. Such a write off.

Who is Brie?

 

I didn't think the guy playing Aiden was capable of being menacing, but I guess I was wrong...

 

I'm not down with Nicole's hair.

 

Where did Kristen take Teresea's embryo? Did she literally take it out of Teresa's womb?

She literally took it out and implanted it in herself.

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Oh weird. I thought she just changed the tests, Sami-style but Teresa doesn't seem to be feeling symptoms of anything, so I  finally had to consider that something fishier was going on and that Kristen did indeed take the embryo. Of course, implanting it in herself! is screwier than even I had imagined.

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Ack, I haven't seen today's episode yet but I'm wringing my hands over the Melanie hate. Something about her really appeals to me, and usually perky isn't what I pick up on as a good thing in a person I have to spend a lot of time with. I think she's refreshing and has dialed back the OTT goofiness this time around. Of course she's saddled with Dan and Maggie, which doesn't help the cause.

 

Hope she wins some of you over : )

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Who is Brie?

 

I didn't think the guy playing Aiden was capable of being menacing, but I guess I was wrong...

 

I'm not down with Nicole's hair.

 

Where did Kristen take Teresea's embryo? Did she literally take it out of Teresa's womb?

 

Bree is a friend of Aiden's supposedly dead wife.

 

Kristen's multiple miracle working doctors took a days-old embryo out of Theresa, implanted it in Kristen and somehow messed with Theresa's body so that there would be no signs that she was ever pregnant.

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LOL for Sonny if Paul tries it on with Will. Will is the one who is gonna visit Paul's hotel room on the regular, so maybe he is the one that TMZ Bellhop will get pics of. With all the talk of Paul not being a monk, maybe the show will go there.

 

What if Paul has sex with both Sonny and Will.

 

I don't care about Paul being lonely. He can hire a gigolo.

 

Melanie hating Theresa is so contrived. If the writers wanted Melanie to hate Theresa they should have come up with some better reasons. 1) Theresa didn't force Brady to do drugs and IIRC he was already snorting coke before she came to town; 2) Jawn is a loser who attacked her first; 3) No one should listen to anything Abifail has to say about anything. She shouldn't even have any friends and people should be regularly calling animal control on her rabies infected ass.

 

Why does Serena keep forgetting she has appointments to go to? Does she not know how to set reminders on her phone?

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What if Paul has sex with both Sonny and Will.

Honestly, that thought crossed my mind too! 

 

The moment he asked Will to meet him in a hotel, I thought....uh-oh. A hotel seems like a strange place to conduct an interview without handlers around.

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Melanie hating Theresa is so contrived. If the writers wanted Melanie to hate Theresa they should have come up with some better reasons. 1) Theresa didn't force Brady to do drugs and IIRC he was already snorting coke before she came to town; 2) Jawn is a loser who attacked her first; 3) No one should listen to anything Abifail has to say about anything. She shouldn't even have any friends and people should be regularly calling animal control on her rabies infected ass.

 

Why does Serena keep forgetting she has appointments to go to? Does she not know how to set reminders on her phone?

 

I need to quote this entire post because it is all totally true.  Brady was already using drugs and drinking when he and Theresa got together but now it's completely her fault he fell off of the wagon.  I guess Brady's convinced himself he is blameless in his own downfall and we're supposed to be cheering him and Melanie on while they attack Theresa?

 

And didn't you realize that we're supposed to find Serena adorably flustered and excuse her lateness as being endearing?  Yeah, me neither :)

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What if Paul has sex with both Sonny and Will.

I don't care about Paul being lonely. He can hire a gigolo. .

Melanie hating Theresa is so contrived. If the writers wanted Melanie to hate Theresa they should have come up with some better reasons. 1) Theresa didn't force Brady to do drugs and IIRC he was already snorting coke before she came to town; 2)Jawn is a loser who attacked her first; 3) No one should listen to anything Abifail has to say about anything. She shouldn't even have any friends and people should be regularly calling animal control on her rabies infected ass.

Why does Serena keep forgetting she has appointments to go to? Does she not know how to set reminders on her phone?

Will taking off his wedding ring is a big clue that Paul might come on to him. Will is trying to be undercover in a way (not that he has an inkling yet), so I don't get the big deal about him taking off his ring.

Cops who are undercover do it regularly I'm sure, and people use sex to get what they want all the time. If Will did wear a ring, how quick would it take for Paul to figure out he's married to Sonny? Not many men married to another man in Salem. The writers don't want that to happen for the sake of the plot.

Right now, WilSon are at two secrets a piece, but as of tomorrow, Sneasel will only have one which he's not obliged to disclose because of a confidentiality agreement, which puts him in a better position than Sonny IMO. The women at the hospital would also not be able to tell their SOs about Paul.

Now if Paul gets inappropriate with Will and he doesn't tell Sonny, that would change things. Come to think of it, Sonny should just tell Will about Paul now. It will save time cos Will will figure it out Paul is gay soon anyway, so Sonny's justification that Paul's secret needs to be protected doesn't hold water.

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I tried, I really did, but I cannot stand Melanie or Serena. Melanie just inexplicably annoys me - her mouth, the way she talks; I know it's not a fair thing to dislike about someone, but I can't help it. But I think Serena grates me even more. She's just so stuck up, and (as someone said upthread) is trying WAY too hard to come off as worldly and 'jaded by her harsh experiences.' Whatever, I can do without the attitude. And really, Daniel says "It's so nice to meet you," and she says "Thank you." Not, "It's really nice to meet you too?" Yeah, sorry, I can't it; I can't feel any kind of empathy with a character like that.

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Honestly, that thought crossed my mind too! 

 

The moment he asked Will to meet him in a hotel, I thought....uh-oh. A hotel seems like a strange place to conduct an interview without handlers around.

But they have to meet in the hotel because Paul can't be out in public.

I would laugh if Paul falls for Will and thinks he can get over Sonny finally.

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Sneasel is the worst husband, Sonny wanted to talk to him about his business then Sneseal hangs up on him abruptly. Add insult to injury instead of leaving Sonny a text letting him know that he's going to be late he calls TBD and leaves a message. WTF?? Why is he doing that and not texting Sonny this information? He's a sneasely bastard. Sonny really needs to divorce him.

 

Brady putting his hands on Theresa, he should have been slapped. Brady is always threatening women more than he does men. I'm surprised he's not a woman beater. Toothy then barges in and wants to know about the pregnancy like it's any of her business. Why Theresa has to stay away from Toothy when Theresa is currently working there and Toothy isn't? How about Toothy go work for another hospital.

 

Oh pleae gmab with Eric and Shrewena, talk about moving fast. Already locking lips, and they've reconnected like what half a day? That's faster than Jack & Rose on the Titanic.  Everytime Shrewena looks at a clock she gotta go, does she know how to organize and plan her time? Looks like she doesn't and needs some help in that. Right now I'm favoring AssCole over Shrewena but AssCole shouldn't hang herself over boring ass Eric.

 

The Crypt Keeper is so scary looking. I swear he can break sidewalks with those teeth.

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I know I'm probably delusional, but I'm hoping that Melanie will see that Theresa was crying, show a kind side and try to comfort her, which will lead Theresa to confide that she really thought she was pregnant, and that she doesn't know how the test was wrong. (that was Melanie at the end right?  I was mostly listening today)

 

Still finding the Aiden mystery interesting. Hope it won't be something too lame when we finally learn his secret.

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Oh weird. I thought she just changed the tests, Sami-style but Teresa doesn't seem to be feeling symptoms of anything, so I  finally had to consider that something fishier was going on and that Kristen did indeed take the embryo. Of course, implanting it in herself! is screwier than even I had imagined.

Viviian did it to Kate twenty years ago with Phillip. 

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If Will did wear a ring, how quick would it take for Paul to figure out he's married to Sonny? Not many men married to another man in Salem.

 

Why would Will's sexuality or relationship status come up at all?  The interview's not about Will.

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Of that list I think I would agree about maybe the last three, but if they were that great they wouldn't be in soaps. I've always found MA delightful. Shakespearean? No, but none of them are. MBE is definitely being wasted.

 

 

I think JL might have a shot outside of soaps, but that might be because of her youth. She's still young enough (or looks young enough) to make the leap. 

 

I do think soaps give stability (as long as you don't get on the wrong side of a producer), so I can see how someone who has financial savvy  and certain degree of smarts about how brutal Hollywood can be (i.e AS) would decide being stuck on one is the best way to go. There are other actors who I think could go farther, but I can see why maybe they wouldn't want to take the risk. 

 

If KM wants to work with Woody Allen, I have no idea why she agreed to do a soap though. No matter how good you are, once you get stuck on a soap for a couple of years, you seem to get stuck with a certain label.

 

I think that we've seen a lot of "less than " talent on soaps in the last 15 to 20 years or so, since the shows started going to "models" for casting, far too often.  Earlier, especially with the soaps produced in NYC, I think we saw a pretty decent, and sometimes pretty high level of talent.  Working on soaps, even as a day player or doing a limited run was a great way to pay the rent for actors in NYC, and the audience benefited from the talent.  And I can think of some pretty respectable performers, maybe not big names, but folks who had a decent film or stage career and then sort of "retired" to the soaps - steady work and income.  Of course, that was in the days when the filming wasn't so completely insane and when the writing seemed a lot more vigorous and nuanced than it does today on any of the soaps, including the ones we've lost recently.  

And for some, soaps were a perfect place to land.  Peter Bergman, for instance, is a guy I think could have had a decent midlevel career on television but instead chose to stay with soaps for the stability while raising a family.  But we certainly have seen far too many people hired for their looks in the last decade or so, with talent running a far second.  

I do have an enormous respect for the long-timers who have put in day after exhausting day on these shows, with diminishing returns and even worse scripts.

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Why would Will's sexuality or relationship status come up at all? The interview's not about Will.

It was obvious to me that the people at Sonix want Will to appear single to enhance his chances of figuring out Paul is gay and outing him. They basically hired him to write the article because he is gay, so he's sexuality is very relevant.

It looks like they would want Paul to drop his guard and flirt with Will, and a wedding ring signals:'hands off'. Will is meant to build a rapport with Paul during the writing of this article.

Zoe's boss even asked Will what he would do if a subject asked him about his marriage and he said he would tell the truth.

If Will asked Paul about his love life while wearing a ring, Paul might look at the ring and make a comment on it, thus leading Will to disclose that he is married to the guy that owns TBD. Paul would figure out that Will is Sonny's husband before the writers are ready for that particular chestnut to come out.

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But they have to meet in the hotel because Paul can't be out in public.

I would laugh if Paul falls for Will and thinks he can get over Sonny finally.

 

Doesn't Paul have some kind of PR team around him though? I figured he had a Jerry Maguire stocked away who helps him out with interviews. With a handler around, questions can be stopped if something goes out of bounds. But then I don't really get how Paul or his management  handle his PR. Where IS Paul's management? Usually people who want to keep themselves from being outed, or alternately, keep their sexuality from being speculated about,  have strong management around to keep things secret (i.e Tom Cruise before he jumped on Oprah's couch).

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Doesn't Paul have some kind of PR team around him though? I figured he had a Jerry Maguire stocked away who helps him out with interviews. With a handler around, questions can be stopped if something goes out of bounds. But then I don't really get how Paul or his management  handle his PR. Where IS Paul's management? Usually people who want to keep themselves from being outed have management around to keep things secret.

Paul has that bossy agent, but I think he's out of town right now cos Paul was speaking Japanese to him on the phone the other day and he said in English that he had to do Zoe's interview cos he doesn't know what Zoe will write. I'm guessing Paul is going to do the interview unsupervised.

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Well, I think Paul is going to have his jumping-on-Oprah's couch moment if he doesn't use his logic to have the interview supervised!

Part of me suspects that this might be part of Paul's plan to come out. Manipulate Will so he gets a pass to come out and be free to pursue Sonny, but also cause problems between Sonny and Will.

The only thing that makes me doubt this theory is the fact that his career would go down the pan. If he finds out he can never play again then all bets are off.

Does Zoe know about Paul and Sonny? She told the boss that Will's husband is Sonny Kiriakis. Was that meant to imply Sonny as in belongs to the Kiriakis family and owns TBD or did it mean something more?

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