Bethenny Frankel: Skinny Girl

[LotusFlower]

Can you provide just one example?

Girl....!

I thought I gave three! The only reason I referenced college credit is because Sonja mentioned this in her defensiveness about the interns from last season a number of times. I'm almost positive it's in her blogs from last year, as well as her remarks at the reunion and on WWHL.

[shoegal]

Girl....!

I thought I gave three! The only reason I referenced college credit is because Sonja mentioned this in her defensiveness about the interns from last season a number of times. I'm almost positive it's in her blogs from last year, as well as her remarks at the reunion and on WWHL.

I haven't seen an example of where Sonja claims her interns make her an international branding expert.

I feel like this would be an apt comparison if the discussion were about whether Sonja actually *has* interns.

Edited June 4, 2015 by shoegal

[Celia Rubenstein]

Her interns make her an international branding expert because she says they do, and if we're taking Housewives for their word, and it's backed up by their appearance with said Housewife, then that's that.

 

I've never heard Sonja link her status as a sought-after branding and marketing expert, entrepreneur, and international hostess to the presence of interns in her home.

 

Her interns at most are portrayed as helping her personally, within her home, and they have nothing to do with her business.  Nor do they travel with her on her (imaginary) international travels.  That branding marketing entrepreneur international hostess shit is 100% the product of her imagination and even Sonja doesn't claim a bunch of college kids hanging around is proof of anything.

[LotusFlower]

I haven't seen an example of where Sonja claims her interns make her an international branding expert.

I feel like this would be an apt comparison if the discussion were about whether Sonja actually *has* interns.

I'm really surprised you don't remember Sonja talking about her interns last year, as I know you watched, but ok. I've never seen Bethenny with any friends on the show outside of Jill and Teri is it? but you said there a couple more, so I took your word for it.

You know I think Sonja is delusional, right? And I hope you know I don't think Bethenny is delusional at all.. But I think she's very TV-savvy, and a reality tv and marketing pro (unlike, um, Sonja). She has an image to project, and she knows how to use the show, and her blogs, to present the image. That doesn't mean she's a fraud, and everything is fake. I just don't take her word as gospel.

[shoegal]

I'm really surprised you don't remember Sonja talking about her interns last year, as I know you watched, but ok. I've never seen Bethenny with any friends on the show outside of Jill and Teri is it? but you said there a couple more, so I took your word for it.

You know I think Sonja is delusional, right? And I hope you know I don't think Bethenny is delusional at all.. But I think she's very TV-savvy, and a reality tv and marketing pro (unlike, um, Sonja). She has an image to project, and she knows how to use the show, and her blogs, to present the image. That doesn't mean she's a fraud, and everything is fake. I just don't take her word as gospel.

I remember Sonja talking about her interns, I just don't remember Sonja claiming "her interns make her an international branding expert". That was your claim and that's the example I asked for...not for examples of Sonja simply *having interns*.

As far as Bethenny and friends, I gave you several others *by name* and others recounted scenes as well (Bethenny visits Miami first season after fight with Jason 1, has dinner with friend from boarding school who tells her that her eggs are rotting). I believe she also mentioned several times that she was good friends with Ginny Hilfiger. There have been other incidences.

What I don't understand is why Bethenny's word isn't taken as the truth when discussing the existence of her own friends. Even the ones that have shown up on camera are dismissed. It would be like pretending Sonja's interns don't exist. IMO.

Edited June 4, 2015 by shoegal

[WireWrap]

Can you provide just one example?

What Sonja does is refer anyone that questions her business sense to "ask her interns" if it is real. Yes, Sonja does use the fact (real or not) she has "interns" as evidence/reference to her "international brand". LOL The same way she said that her "interns" only refer to her as "Lady Morgan" in their business meetings in her blog after the AC/rain shutout. LOL

[WireWrap]

I remember Sonja talking about her interns, I just don't remember Sonja claiming "her interns make her an international branding expert". That was your claim and that's the example I asked for...not for examples of Sonja simply *having interns*.

As far as Bethenny and friends, I gave you several others *by name* and others recounted scenes as well (Bethenny visits Miami first season after fight with Jason 1, has dinner with friend from boarding school who tells her that her eggs are rotting). I believe she also mentioned several times that she was good friends with Ginny Hilfiger. There have been other incidences.

What I don't understand is why Bethenny's word isn't taken as the truth when discussing the existence of her own friends. Even the ones that have shown up on camera are dismissed. It would be like pretending Sonja's interns don't exist. IMO.

IMO, just mine, the reason why people wonder if Bethenny has any "close" friends is due to the nanny/guardianship scene. Jason wanted either his parents or his BF and Bethenny shot those down and insisted on the nanny which does not make sense if she has "close" life long friends to many of us. That is why I suspect it was just said/done for the show and not serious/real. JMO though

[shoegal]

What Sonja does is refer anyone that questions her business sense to "ask her interns" if it is real. Yes, Sonja does use the fact (real or not) she has "interns" as evidence/reference to her "international brand". LOL The same way she said that her "interns" only refer to her as "Lady Morgan" in their business meetings in her blog after the AC/rain shutout. LOL

I believe her interns actually do things for her, as she has claimed. I don't believe that she's claimed that their presence makes her an international branding expert.

They run her website, social media, run her schedule, take notes, fetch coffee/tea, help her pack, organize the house, etc.

....and she does have some kind of business going on, as evidenced this season.

[LotusFlower]

I remember Sonja talking about her interns, I just don't remember Sonja claiming "her interns make her an international branding expert". That was your claim and that's the example I asked for...not for examples of Sonja simply *having interns*.

What I don't understand is why Bethenny's word isn't taken as the truth when discussing the existence of her own friends. Even the ones that have shown up on camera are dismissed. It would be like pretending Sonja's interns don't exist. IMO.

Re: your first paragraph - you're taking it too literally. Sonja said her interns help her with her "work," whatever that may be, and then listed everything she does - from hosting Sonja in the City events, to branding and marketing, to PR, to selling real estate, etc...

Re: your second paragraph - I'm not dismissing the friends' existence. In fact, I'm taking your word for it. But having a number of close girlfriends is different than friends and acquaintances, and I know I've explained what I mean by the lack of close friends in Bethenny's life (with examples!) ad nauseum. And Bethenny's defensive post on the subject just doesn't change my opinion.

[WireWrap]

I believe her interns actually do things for her, as she has claimed. I don't believe that she's claimed that their presence makes her an international branding expert.

They run her website, social media, run her schedule, take notes, fetch coffee/tea, help her pack, organize the house, etc.

....and she does have some kind of business going on, as evidenced this season.

She refers to them as/for proof/backup when questioned and I don't think anyone takes it seriously except Sonja. LOL

As for her new clothing line, not 1 store/boutique picked up her line nor did a shopping channel even though WW, Nene, Ramona, LuAnn and Kyle have all had clothing or jewelry sold on 1 of them. Heather has had her YT on HSN for years, well before the HW show and is in retail stores. I want to know if anyone actually ordered then received something from Sonja's "line". LOL

Edited June 4, 2015 by WireWrap

[Jel]

Assuming Bethenny does have just a very small circle of old friends, and virtually no new friends, and almost no acquaintances, is that proof of some character defect or something? I think it shows discernment.

[LotusFlower]

I believe her interns actually do things for her, as she has claimed. I don't believe that she's claimed that their presence makes her an international branding expert.

They run her website, social media, run her schedule, take notes, fetch coffee/tea, help her pack, organize the house, etc.

....and she does have some kind of business going on, as evidenced this season.

She's full of shit. Interns can't get college credit for fetching Lady Morgan her slippers. And social media? She has a homeless girl in Ireland who writes her tweets! There was a lot of discussion on this in last year's ep. threads. Lots of guesses as to who these kids really are...

[ryebread]

I think it shows discernment.

 

I agree!  When Moaner said she invited her 30 closest girlfriends to her b'day party, I wasn't impressed.  I have a friend (!) on Facebook who posts pictures every day of her various 2,786 besties eating, working out, dancing, mugging.  I don't know how she does it.  There are only so many days in a year.  I barely have time for the people I truly love much less 20 or 30 close friends.

[nexxie]

Bethenny seems like a wreck this season - financial success has certainly not brought her happiness.

[SCS]

I'm more interested in why none of Sonja's interns have managed to get her to wear undergarments. I wanna see receipts for that conversation. And I think that this forum would be more fun to post in if there were more agreeing to disagree.

Re the bolded above, you are very wise -- as demonstrated by the patron saint who inspired your screen name, who will likely be a mob boss in 20 years or starring on her own real life soap opera:

First, there was Stefano -- and then there was Massimo -- but now it's Milania! Be afraid. Be very afraid....

....and she does have some kind of business going on, as evidenced this season.

Well, she has a dress. And, you know, I've heard mighty oaks from tiny acorns grow so there's that.

[missy jo]

I was actually glad they showed the Brooklyn Bridge flashback of Ramona telling Beth she had no friends and would fuck up her relationship with Jason. I thought it was mean at the time, because Beth wasn't horrible yet, but Ramona was totally right on both counts.

[LotusFlower]

I was actually glad they showed the Brooklyn Bridge flashback of Ramona telling Beth she had no friends and would fuck up her relationship with Jason. I thought it was mean at the time, because Beth wasn't horrible yet, but Ramona was totally right on both counts.

It's true - it was really mean, and really prescient at the same time. To quote Bethenny: "Gotta love Ramona!"

[missy jo]

Ugh, I just read B's blog:

 

The show is really good. The ratings are up and #theBisback

 

 

Go away, sweetie. Hopefully this season marks the end of B and she won't get her spin-off.

 

Bwah ha! In her own blog, Lu outs Beth for having a nanny, which she's previously denied:

 

I was happily surprised that Bethenny took my advice and left her daughter with her nanny to surprise Dorinda for her birthday.

 

 

Edited June 4, 2015 by missy jo

[AnnA]

As far as Bethenny and friends, I gave you several others *by name* and others recounted scenes as well (Bethenny visits Miami first season after fight with Jason 1, has dinner with friend from boarding school who tells her that her eggs are rotting). I believe she also mentioned several times that she was good friends with Ginny Hilfiger. There have been other incidences.

What I don't understand is why Bethenny's word isn't taken as the truth when discussing the existence of her own friends. Even the ones that have shown up on camera are dismissed. It would be like pretending Sonja's interns don't exist. IMO.

 

 

Bethenny is also good friends with Kyle Richards.  From what I've read (right here on this forum) they've been friends for over 20 years.

[LotusFlower]

Ugh, I just read B's blog:

 

Go away, sweetie. Hopefully this season marks the end of B and she won't get her spin-off.

I was kinda shocked she wrote that. The ego! But more importantly, the ratings are NOT up. There's as low, if not lower than last year. Why would she say that?

[FozzyBear]

I was actually glad they showed the Brooklyn Bridge flashback of Ramona telling Beth she had no friends and would fuck up her relationship with Jason. I thought it was mean at the time, because Beth wasn't horrible yet, but Ramona was totally right on both counts.

I guess it depends in your definition of a fucked up life. Not that I want to be B or think her life is particularly enviable, but I don't see it as objectively more fucked up then your average HW. Yes her marriage is ending badly, but Ramona didn't need a crystal ball to predict that one. B and J were not built to last. Anyway she has her kid, her career is going well, she has a group of friends even if they are off camera for whatever reason. I mean she a rich single mom in NYC. Same as Luanne, Ramona,Dorina. I don't think she's more alone that anyone else on the cast.

[LotusFlower]

I guess it depends in your definition of a fucked up life. Not that I want to be B or think her life is particularly enviable, but I don't see it as objectively more fucked up then your average HW. Yes her marriage is ending badly, but Ramona didn't need a crystal ball to predict that one. B and J were not built to last. Anyway she has her kid, her career is going well, she has a group of friends even if they are off camera for whatever reason. I mean she a rich single mom in NYC. Same as Luanne, Ramona,Dorina. I don't think she's more alone that anyone else on the cast.

But missy jo (or Ramona) didn't say that Bethenny would have a fucked up life, but rather that her relationship with Jason will be fucked up.

And yea, she's no more alone than others in the cast, ie. Lu, Dorinda, and Ramona, but she seems miserable to me. I'd normally say it could be a bad patch, but Bethenny always seems miserable. I guess that's one of the hazards of opening your therapy sessions to viewers.

Edited June 4, 2015 by LotusFlower

[breezy424]

I guess it depends in your definition of a fucked up life. Not that I want to be B or think her life is particularly enviable, but I don't see it as objectively more fucked up then your average HW. Yes her marriage is ending badly, but Ramona didn't need a crystal ball to predict that one. B and J were not built to last. Anyway she has her kid, her career is going well, she has a group of friends even if they are off camera for whatever reason. I mean she a rich single mom in NYC. Same as Luanne, Ramona,Dorina. I don't think she's more alone that anyone else on the cast.

I really don't care if Beth has friends or not but her problem is that she doesn't appreciate or get that she's a rich single mom in NYC and life is pretty good. A lot better than many other women who have gone through divorce and custody and a lot more. According to Beth, she's going through 'hell'.  She doesn't know what 'hell' is. 

[FozzyBear]

But missy jo (or Ramona) didn't say that Bethenny would have a fucked up life, but rather that her relationship with Jason will be fucked up.

And yea, she's no more alone than others in the cast, ie. Lu, Dorinda, and Ramona, but she seems miserable to me. I'd normally say it could be a bad patch, but Bethenny always seems miserable. I guess that's one of the hazards of opening your therapy sessions to viewers.

Good point. I guess my object to Ramona the Fortune Teller was the idea that B is alone. Is B the most warm and fuzzy person on earth? No! Is she an acquired taste? My guess is yes! Is she likely someone who takes a a lot of patience to deal with? Oh god, hell yes! Is she "alone" any more than Ramona? Eh, my guess is no. Having a Rolodex of 30 women to invite to a birthday party (that's a paper phone book, for the kids ;)) doesn't actually make someone less alone by default. I have no doubt B could come up with 30 social contacts to invite to a party, she just wouldn't consider them close friends. Conversely, just because Ramona does call them that doesn't convince me of the deep level of friendship going on. People use the world friend differently. That's fine. I'm not sure I believe that Bethannny is lonelier than Ramona or even Luanne.

[LotusFlower]

Good point. I guess my object to Ramona the Fortune Teller was the idea that B is alone. Is B the most warm and fuzzy person on earth? No! Is she an acquired taste? My guess is yes! Is she likely someone who takes a a lot of patience to deal with? Oh god, hell yes! Is she "alone" any more than Ramona? Eh, my guess is no. Having a Rolodex of 30 women to invite to a birthday party (that's a paper phone book, for the kids ;)) doesn't actually make someone less alone by default. I have no doubt B could come up with 30 social contacts to invite to a party, she just wouldn't consider them close friends. Conversely, just because Ramona does call them that doesn't convince me of the deep level of friendship going on. People use the world friend differently. That's fine. I'm not sure I believe that Bethannny is lonelier than Ramona or even Luanne.

No doubt it was a nasty thing to say ("you'll end up alone"). I mean, who says that? Ramona! But regardless of their Rolodexes, I think Bethenny has a kind of lonely spirit. That's what I meant when I said she always seems miserable. I don't get that from Ramona. Maybe it's the Pinot!

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Bethenny's response in her blog:

"I have a very small group of best friendsthat I've had for 25 years. I keep it tight and right, and with this nastiness and catty conversation, now we know why. I'm a quality versus quantity person. If you think I'm going to fill a room or my life with girls that look like they're all my BFFs but wait for them to start gossiping behind my back, you got the wrong one. Ya gotta love Ramona."

How does one submit questions to the Reunion. Someone should ask in, since this came up, if Julie Plake is still Bryn's guardian. Or if one from this set is her guardian. Of it not, who?

[shoegal]

Re: your second paragraph - I'm not dismissing the friends' existence. In fact, I'm taking your word for it. But having a number of close girlfriends is different than friends and acquaintances, and I know I've explained what I mean by the lack of close friends in Bethenny's life (with examples!) ad nauseum. And Bethenny's defensive post on the subject just doesn't change my opinion.

The way I see it, Bethenny's opinion is the only one that matters. They are *her* friends after all, *she* gets to decide if they are "close" friends.

No doubt it was a nasty thing to say ("you'll end up alone"). I mean, who says that? Ramona! But regardless of their Rolodexes, I think Bethenny has a kind of lonely spirit. That's what I meant when I said she always seems miserable. I don't get that from Ramona. Maybe it's the Pinot!

IMO What Ramona thinks is irrelevant...and if I were Ramona, I'd keep my opinions about others relationships to myself considering how the other women have tiptoed around the issue of a philandering Mario. Edited June 4, 2015 by shoegal

[zoeysmom]

How does one submit questions to the Reunion. Someone should ask in, since this came up, if Julie Plake is still Bryn's guardian. Or if one from this set is her guardian. Of it not, who?

I think Julie is the Godmother.  Usually the Godparents remain the same unless you are watching Bravo's Southern Charm where the mother fired the Godmother and a second naming ceremony   It was another recent employee, hairdresser or something that was the guardian the allegedly were going to designate.  It is kind of a moot point.  Unless Bethenny and Jason both die close in time to each other.  At this point they have their own wills and trusts so there are no more  joint decisions. If Bethenny dies first  Jason can designate whoever he wants in the event of his death and if Jason dies first it becomes Bethenny's choice.  My guess is there s a trustee for the money and another person for living and caring for Bryn.  

[seasick]

As far as friendships and Bethanny.. It reminds me of that phrase about people coming into our lives for 'a reason, 'a season'. or a lifetime...   

 

I thought her treatment of Jill was very telling.  As I recall it,  she spent that summer curled up with Jill on her bed in the Hamptons.. hurt and upset that Jason 1.0  had essentially dumped her,  her career as a chef was going nowhere and she was overall feeling lonely an depressed.  When things really started to take off for B a short time later, she put all that behind her,including Jill.

 

When Jill called her on it , Bethanny thought it was because Jill wanted to hang on to B's coattails to success and get more press and maybe even take some credit for it.  I really think Jill had thought they had bonded and expected B to stay in close touch...good times or bad.  I think Jill thought of it a more of a 'lifetime' friendship and had no other real designs on claiming any of B's sunshine, and i think she got a bad rap on that.

 

To say B  'uses'  people would be too simple.  I don't think B sees/ saw a lot of value in friendships and found them  to be more effort then what it's worth. (I know people like that!) It means they have to stay in touch and give a rats about OP's  problems ( like Jill's hubby's surgery) and they just don't have time for that. .They see friendships as disposable.

 

B was reaching for something else to fulfill her. Friendship was yeah, for a reason or a season...(what the hell else, right?)  What that fulfillment is.. I don't know. ..  fame.. no that wasn't it... success..no that's not it... not riches... not a kid...           jmo fwiw

 

 

 

 

[FozzyBear]

I think Julie is the Godmother. Usually the Godparents remain the same unless you are watching Bravo's Southern Charm where the mother fired the Godmother and a second naming ceremony It was another recent employee, hairdresser or something that was the guardian the allegedly were going to designate. It is kind of a moot point. Unless Bethenny and Jason both die close in time to each other. At this point they have their own wills and trusts so there are no more joint decisions. If Bethenny dies first Jason can designate whoever he wants in the event of his death and if Jason dies first it becomes Bethenny's choice. My guess is there s a trustee for the money and another person for living and caring for Bryn.

I think part of Julie being made Godmother was because she's catholic. You can't be a godparent in the Catholic Church if you're not Catholic. Friends of mine ran into a thing with that. They were baptizing their son and named a newish friend the godfather because he was catholic and they didn't have that many options. The Dad was Catholic, but hadn't been close with his family for years and had lived on in a different state from where he had grown up since high school. The mom had a bigger support system in the area, but she hadn't grown up religious and most of her friends and family were either agnostic or Protestant. This friend was the only person they were both close to who was a practicing catholic. I thought the Julie situation was a similar deal.

I suppose they could have asked Ramona and Mario. ;)

Edited June 4, 2015 by FozzyBear

[LotusFlower]

IMO What Ramona thinks is irrelevant...and if I were Ramona, I'd keep my opinions about others relationships to myself considering how the other women have tiptoed around the issue of a philandering Mario.

And yet Bethenny feels free to talk about the relationships of others as well, ie. telling Dorinda her arrangement with John about staying the night was "wrong." But that's the nature of reality shows. They're paid to talk, not to keep their opinions to themselves.

[hottesthw]

As far as friendships and Bethanny.. It reminds me of that phrase about people coming into our lives for 'a reason, 'a season'. or a lifetime...

I thought her treatment of Jill was very telling. As I recall it, she spent that summer curled up with Jill on her bed in the Hamptons.. hurt and upset that Jason 1.0 had essentially dumped her, her career as a chef was going nowhere and she was overall feeling lonely an depressed. When things really started to take off for B a short time later, she put all that behind her,including Jill.

When Jill called her on it , Bethanny thought it was because Jill wanted to hang on to B's coattails to success and get more press and maybe even take some credit for it. I really think Jill had thought they had bonded and expected B to stay in close touch...good times or bad. I think Jill thought of it a more of a 'lifetime' friendship and had no other real designs on claiming any of B's sunshine, and i think she got a bad rap on that.

To say B 'uses' people would be too simple. I don't think B sees/ saw a lot of value in friendships and found them to be more effort then what it's worth. (I know people like that!) It means they have to stay in touch and give a rats about OP's problems ( like Jill's hubby's surgery) and they just don't have time for that. .They see friendships as disposable.

B was reaching for something else to fulfill her. Friendship was yeah, for a reason or a season...(what the hell else, right?) What that fulfillment is.. I don't know. .. fame.. no that wasn't it... success..no that's not it... not riches... not a kid... jmo fwiw

This! Yes! I have always been one of the few viewers out there that did not see the horrible act against humanity that Jill supposedly did to Bethenny. B was friends with her till she didn't need to be friends anymore. Which ok, fine. Her perogative, but don't get all offended when the other person gets upset. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Jill supporter, but she was not wrong in her thoughts about Bethenny IMO.

And what's funny is on the WWHL interview at one point Andy brought up HW being friends before filming and he said like her and Jill, and B shut that shit down. Her and Jill were aquaintences, not friends. Change the subject.

[Mrs peel]

So I did some research, and it appears Bethenny is just slapping her name on to various products.

 

The famous blender - Frankel is partnering with New York-based Sensio, maker of colorful Bella- branded kitchen gadgets, sold in Target, JCPenney and Walmart. 

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/skinnygirl-bethenny-breaks-into-the-blender-business/

 

The salad dressings - made/marketed/sold by B&G Foods:  B&G Foods, Inc. (NYSE: BGS) and its subsidiaries manufacture, sell and distribute a diversified portfolio of high-quality, branded shelf-stable foods across the United States, Canada and Puerto Rico.

 

The "sparklers" [flavored water] - Bethenny Frankel announced her new partnership with powerhouse AriZona Beverages, to create a line of non-alcoholic beverages, Skinnygirl Sparklers.

https://www.drinkarizona.com/products

http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2013/11/22/skinnygirl-aging-cancer-diabetes/

 

Water enhancers: Heartland Food Products Group, in a partnership with Skinnygirl™, will manufacture and distribute the new Water Enhancers across North America.  As a pioneer in both innovative water enhancer flavors and low calorie sweeteners, we share Bethenny's commitment to balanced living.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/skinnygirl-makes-a-splash-with-new-water-enhancers-246592271.html

 

She does claim she has a specific process for the products, that her method is unique, etc.

http://www.ew.com/article/2013/11/11/bethenny-frankel-skinnygirl-sparklers

 

They are all available in multiple markets it seems, likely due to the partnerships.  Not saying this is a bad thing, but she gives off the vibe of "I'm doing this all myself."  No, you're not.

 

The blender is particularly pathetic.  I found it on Amazon, allegedly a 20 piece set.  However, the description shows only 8 pieces (the base, 2 blades, 4 cups for holding the ingredients, and I think 2 lids for the cups).  Other sites show more stuff for the 20 piece set, but for one it included 3, count'em 3, straws.  I think they are also counting the recipe book as a "piece".  The pricing is all over the place, the manufacturer Bella lists it at $119, but Amazon ahs the 20 piece set at ~$40; a reviewer said she bought it at Sam's Club for $15. 

[ZoloftBlob]

This! Yes! I have always been one of the few viewers out there that did not see the horrible act against humanity that Jill supposedly did to Bethenny. B was friends with her till she didn't need to be friends anymore. Which ok, fine. Her perogative, but don't get all offended when the other person gets upset. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Jill supporter, but she was not wrong in her thoughts about Bethenny IMO.

 

Wait... there was a lot more the Jill thing than Jill being wonderfully giving and Bethenny just cutting her out. Jill has actually admitted that she engineered their extensive fight, amonsgt other things. Feel free to assign Bethenny her due blame (there were things that she could have handled better) but really, Jillzy was a HUGE part of her own misery in the Bethenny/Jillzy break up.

[seasick]

I'm surprised her skinny girl alcohol line was purchased for so much.  It limits it's appeal to females and I worked in the restaurant biz and never heard anyone request it and so far as I know none of our bars carried it.. The only place I ever saw it was at the racetrack.   I also think if you were anything but skinny, you might feel a little embarrassed asking for it  (bartender thinking 'yeah, good luck with that) ...maybe my snarky nature back to bite me  idk.  

hottesthw so glad i'm not on that planet alone!  Thanks for the response. Interesting how B shut down that convo on WWH

[SCS]

So I did some research, and it appears Bethenny is just slapping her name on to various products.

Oh, Beth, you crazy successful bidness woman, do a toaster oven, woncha, just so we can watch Sonja's sexy J wilt.

[zoeysmom]

She refers to them as/for proof/backup when questioned and I don't think anyone takes it seriously except Sonja. LOL

As for her new clothing line, not 1 store/boutique picked up her line nor did a shopping channel even though WW, Nene, Ramona, LuAnn and Kyle have all had clothing or jewelry sold on 1 of them. Heather has had her YT on HSN for years, well before the HW show and is in retail stores. I want to know if anyone actually ordered then received something from Sonja's "line". LOL

Well here is another RH line of clothes:    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-style/news/brandi-glanville-unveils-first-ever-clothing-line-brand-b-2012412  I got the sneaking suspicion that Brandi's Resort Wear line was a bunch of generic one shoulder dresses ready to have a label slapped on them.  

 

And then there was Alexis Couture- Seemed like a made to order affair.

 

Sonja can do at least as well as these two.

[zoeysmom]

So I did some research, and it appears Bethenny is just slapping her name on to various products.

 

The famous blender - Frankel is partnering with New York-based Sensio, maker of colorful Bella- branded kitchen gadgets, sold in Target, JCPenney and Walmart. 

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/skinnygirl-bethenny-breaks-into-the-blender-business/

 

The salad dressings - made/marketed/sold by B&G Foods:  B&G Foods, Inc. (NYSE: BGS) and its subsidiaries manufacture, sell and distribute a diversified portfolio of high-quality, branded shelf-stable foods across the United States, Canada and Puerto Rico.

 

The "sparklers" [flavored water] - Bethenny Frankel announced her new partnership with powerhouse AriZona Beverages, to create a line of non-alcoholic beverages, Skinnygirl Sparklers.

https://www.drinkarizona.com/products

http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2013/11/22/skinnygirl-aging-cancer-diabetes/

 

Water enhancers: Heartland Food Products Group, in a partnership with Skinnygirl™, will manufacture and distribute the new Water Enhancers across North America.  As a pioneer in both innovative water enhancer flavors and low calorie sweeteners, we share Bethenny's commitment to balanced living.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/skinnygirl-makes-a-splash-with-new-water-enhancers-246592271.html

 

She does claim she has a specific process for the products, that her method is unique, etc.

http://www.ew.com/article/2013/11/11/bethenny-frankel-skinnygirl-sparklers

 

They are all available in multiple markets it seems, likely due to the partnerships.  Not saying this is a bad thing, but she gives off the vibe of "I'm doing this all myself."  No, you're not.

 

The blender is particularly pathetic.  I found it on Amazon, allegedly a 20 piece set.  However, the description shows only 8 pieces (the base, 2 blades, 4 cups for holding the ingredients, and I think 2 lids for the cups).  Other sites show more stuff for the 20 piece set, but for one it included 3, count'em 3, straws.  I think they are also counting the recipe book as a "piece".  The pricing is all over the place, the manufacturer Bella lists it at $119, but Amazon ahs the 20 piece set at ~$40; a reviewer said she bought it at Sam's Club for $15. 

Bethenny gave an interview shortly after the Jim Beam purchase and said she thought the sale of the name Skinny Girl would be worth a BILLION dollars.  She seems to have hit the market with just about everything one an have associated with Skinny Girl.  Maybe her next product will be frozen dinners.   I never understand why people buy her license line of crapola but I guess stranger things have happen.

 

Last year Kristen was talking about Bella appliances and how they came in E-Boost orange and how they were one of her favorite things.  It probably would have worked except she was extoling the virtues of their toaster oven and Bella didn't make one,

[WireWrap]

Well here is another RH line of clothes:    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-style/news/brandi-glanville-unveils-first-ever-clothing-line-brand-b-2012412  I got the sneaking suspicion that Brandi's Resort Wear line was a bunch of generic one shoulder dresses ready to have a label slapped on them.  

 

And then there was Alexis Couture- Seemed like a made to order affair.

 

Sonja can do at least as well as these two.

LOL I think Sonja's line might just be on the same page as Alexis and Brandi's lines.....nowhere!

[Aunt Kiki]

Wait... there was a lot more the Jill thing than Jill being wonderfully giving and Bethenny just cutting her out. Jill has actually admitted that she engineered their extensive fight, amonsgt other things. Feel free to assign Bethenny her due blame (there were things that she could have handled better) but really, Jillzy was a HUGE part of her own misery in the Bethenny/Jillzy break up.

I seem to recall that (either) the last episode of Season 3 or at the reunion, Bethenny made a statement to the effect (I don't know the exact quote nor do I have the time to rewatch the episodes right now) that Jason was not comfortable with Bethenny resuming a friendship with Jill unless she made some changes.  And although he was cordial to Jill at the last episode, IMO he was not comfortable with her after all the stress he caused Bethenny during the season.  I am not a Jason fan, but I do feel he was very protective and concerned for/of Bethenny during that time, plus when Jill put Bethenny on blast about taking Jason instead of her on the island trip, I'm sure he wasn't too happy about that.  Everyone may have differing opinions about whether B & J were in love, but JMO at that time they were in lockstep and in a good place in their relationship.  A year later, not so much.  IMO Bethenny probably would have repaired the relationship with Jill had Jason not been concerned about how toxic Jill had acted during that time.

[Aunt Kiki]

Wait....

If Bethenny considers people close friends, that's essentially Bethenny's opinion, regardless of whether they appear on screen or not. However, Sonja stating her interns get college credit is an *easily provable fact* - all it takes is one intern willing to show their college transcripts.

 

That's all it takes to prove Sonja's claim - college credit can be proven *if she really feels it necessary*  - what can Bethenny do to prove she's close friends with someone... without being accused of lying, faking it, etc?

IMO many of the HW have friends that wouldn't be caught dead on this show unless they are angling for exposure or future airtime.  Luanne and Sonja (if in fact any of her high society friends will even admit they know her at this point) come to mind since they were married to established Social Register types   I think Bethenny has plenty of long standing friends that have no desire to be on television.  JMO.

 

I remember laughing when Sonja spoke on WWHL about the process she went through in selecting intern candidates and how she met with some college officials - and wondering whether she went commando when she met with them.  Just sounded like a load of crap to me.  SMH

[Mrs peel]

I'm surprised her skinny girl alcohol line was purchased for so much. It limits it's appeal to females and I worked in the restaurant biz and never heard anyone request it and so far as I know none of our bars carried it.. The only place I ever saw it was at the racetrack. I also think if you were anything but skinny, you might feel a little embarrassed asking for it (bartender thinking 'yeah, good luck with that) ...maybe my snarky nature back to bite me idk.

hottesthw so glad i'm not on that planet alone! Thanks for the response. Interesting how B shut down that convo on WWH

But it is being marketed to grocery stores. I doubt Jim Beam ever expect it would be sold at bars. Big money to be made in store sales. Edited June 5, 2015 by Mrs peel

[missy jo]

I have no doubt B could come up with 30 social contacts to invite to a party, she just wouldn't consider them close friends.

 

 

It cracked me up in this last episode when Ramona said that Beth's only guests at her birthday dinner were her assistants and her real estate agent. Preach it, Ramona!

[Aunt Kiki]

But it is being marketed to grocery stores. I doubt Jim Beam ever expect it would be sold at bars. Big money to be made in store sales.

SG margaritas are sold at Yankee Stadium in a tall 16 oz container and there are plenty of people who buy them.  Too much money for me, though - I think they're about 20..  Possibly they are sold at other sports venues too. 

[seasick]

I've seen it reported here that B and her boyfriend broke up during filming.  Could that be what is contributing to B's constant tears on anything and everything?

 

 Also, can someone fill me in on the 'hate mail' about her ex Jason? True or not true.. curious as to what was purported to be his part in their demise and his (maybe--maybe not) egregious actions in the divorce.

 

tx

[motorcitymom65]

I've seen it reported here that B and her boyfriend broke up during filming.  Could that be what is contributing to B's constant tears on anything and everything?

 

 Also, can someone fill me in on the 'hate mail' about her ex Jason? True or not true.. curious as to what was purported to be his part in their demise and his (maybe--maybe not) egregious actions in the divorce.

 

tx

They broke up about a month before filming ended, so during what we are seeing now, they were together. I posted pics of them vacationing together in Miami with Bryn last December (which is when the current shows were filmed) and they looked very happy. I guess we will never know for sure because it doesn't look like she is going to mention the fact that she even had a boyfriend.

[hottesthw]

They broke up about a month before filming ended, so during what we are seeing now, they were together. I posted pics of them vacationing together in Miami with Bryn last December (which is when the current shows were filmed) and they looked very happy. I guess we will never know for sure because it doesn't look like she is going to mention the fact that she even had a boyfriend.

She will either mention it at the reunion to garner sympathy or next season when she needs another woe-is-me storyline. Or maybe in her final therapy session this year. Trust me, she'll bust it out when it's most beneficial to her.

[Grneyedldy]

They broke up about a month before filming ended, so during what we are seeing now, they were together. I posted pics of them vacationing together in Miami with Bryn last December (which is when the current shows were filmed) and they looked very happy. I guess we will never know for sure because it doesn't look like she is going to mention the fact that she even had a boyfriend.

I'm with you, it s strange that she doesn't even mention that she has a BF (I saw your post on the episode thread). I get him not wanting to be on the show or mentioned by name, but Bethenny is smart enough to know that there are viewers (us) that know she has an off show boyfriend.

Some of my favorite HW shit happens off film. Can I get a "oh yeah" from the Susan Saunder's fans?

[LotusFlower]

Some of my favorite HW shit happens off film. Can I get a "oh yeah" from the Susan Saunder's fans?

Hell yea!

Everything about that was priceless. Vintage Jill.

[Almost 3000]

I'm surprised her skinny girl alcohol line was purchased for so much.  It limits it's appeal to females and I worked in the restaurant biz and never heard anyone request it and so far as I know none of our bars carried it.. The only place I ever saw it was at the racetrack.   I also think if you were anything but skinny, you might feel a little embarrassed asking for it  (bartender thinking 'yeah, good luck with that) ...maybe my snarky nature back to bite me  idk.  

hottesthw so glad i'm not on that planet alone!  Thanks for the response. Interesting how B shut down that convo on WWH

There also seems to be a wave of celebrity and popular fitness bloggers championing the non usage of weight shaming words like "skinny" and that usually is the start of something seen in general as out of fashion thinking. So the whole Skinny Girl empire might have been built on a foundation soon to be old and without much support.