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S01.E05: 11:00 A.M.

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Cotypubby

Cotypubby

Really can’t stand the rude know-it-all intern (is that Santos?) Everything about her personality is off-putting.

I wonder if they are leading to something unexpected with racist white guy in the waiting room, or if he’s just there to show how frustrating it is to wait for hours and hours.

Who was the young guy going to the concert? I missed if they introduced how he was related to someone. Is he Robby’s son?

You’d think Whittaker and the others would have been more concerned about him getting a patient’s blood in his mouth. Seems like a big health issue, no?

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jah1986

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Poor Whitaker, what is he going to be wearing by the end of the shift?

So the only critique Santos can take is positive, she could be on to something about the vials but she does not like to be told no.

I knew something was off with the abortion kid, but I didn't think it was aunt vs. mom.

This episode just flew by. Please don't let anything happen to the kid Robby gave the tickets to. And we have confirmation that there is history with Robby and the pregnant resident, but some time ago, so he's probably not the dad?

Nice to get a bit more background on the resident with the ankle bracelet. I hope the daughter comes back for her mom soon.

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marceline

marceline

I agree with everyone talking about how quickly the episode flew by. Maybe it's because we know these characters a little better now so we don't need as much clumsy exposition.

Twice in this episode we saw doctors' put patient care at risk because their egos and feelings were more important. First Samira fails to risks her patients life and health because she was too emotional. Second, Robby and Langdon fighting to get an airway even though surgery was right there and the patients sats were dropping.

Poor Whitaker. The scrubs thing is sad and funny but I share more concern about how Whitaker got a face full of blood. Isn't there some kind of post-exposure protocol?

SeanBug

SeanBug

3 hours ago, marceline said:

I agree with everyone talking about how quickly the episode flew by. Maybe it's because we know these characters a little better now so we don't need as much clumsy exposition.

Twice in this episode we saw doctors' put patient care at risk because their egos and feelings were more important. First Samira fails to risks her patients life and health because she was too emotional. Second, Robby and Langdon fighting to get an airway even though surgery was right there and the patients sats were dropping.

Poor Whitaker. The scrubs thing is sad and funny but I share more concern about how Whitaker got a face full of blood. Isn't there some kind of post-exposure protocol?

Normally if a non surgical procedure is working, they try not to do surgery.  It was touch and go, but once you're in the middle of a procedure, it's almost more risky to pull out all that equipment and prep him for surgery. 

I think Santos is looking for any reason not to take the blame for her fuck ups.  One vial not opening doesn't mean they're all bad.  Maybe she didn't have a good grip,   It's not like she's some brilliant doctor who is allowed to be a terror.  She's still learning, and thinks she should call the shots over a resident or attending. Show her the door. 

 

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OLynn33

OLynn33

14 hours ago, JeanJean said:

I dislike Santos more every week

I'll take Santos all day every day over Slow Mo who took credit over Dr. King for blister gushing guy. I know she's in Robby's doghouse so maybe she figures this will buy her some credit with him. And it happens all the time in the real world and can get you President of the United States. But in the medical field that will come back to bite if people assume you are more capable than you actually are. Also, it just makes you a really shitty person. 

Giant rude dude is going to lose it for sure.

The tonsillectomy complication was interesting because it's never shown and that actually happened near me and the child died. At the hospital where the operation was performed the department was shut down while they investigated because there had been 4 similar incidents although no deaths. Apparently it's a dangerous complication but really not talked about much. 

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

I love this show, it's just brilliant.  I liked the Whitaker got sparky with the head/throat surgeon.  Poor Whitaker the running gag of splatter on hhisScrubs has gotten old.

I adored Dr King, she's a great teacher and really competent.  She's obviously ahead of the med students but, I don't quite know where she fits in, I'm guessing she's at the same level as Mohan.

Santos gets worse and more annoying every week. She really can't accept being wrong. Langdon made an excellent point, experience is just as valuable as textbooks and she's there to learn. I can't believe she wanted to blame the drug manufacturer because she couldn't accept she was wrong and jumping the gun.  I take Garcia's 3 way with Madonna comment as confirmation she has a thing for Santos. 

We also got confirmation that Robby/Collins have history as i suspected but, I don't think he's the Baby Daddy. 

I'm now really,  really worried that something will happen at the Music Festival,  I was hoping they wouldn't go there. 

16 hours ago, Cotypubby said:

Who was the young guy going to the concert? I missed if they introduced how he was related to someone. Is he Robby’s son?

Dr Robby's son, Jake. Robby mentioned him when the Fentenyl kid came in, about how that kid is the same age as Jake. I really liked Jake, even if he ditched his dad for a girl. 

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Notabug

Notabug

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7 hours ago, marceline said:

I agree with everyone talking about how quickly the episode flew by. Maybe it's because we know these characters a little better now so we don't need as much clumsy exposition.

Twice in this episode we saw doctors' put patient care at risk because their egos and feelings were more important. First Samira fails to risks her patients life and health because she was too emotional. Second, Robby and Langdon fighting to get an airway even though surgery was right there and the patients sats were dropping.

Poor Whitaker. The scrubs thing is sad and funny but I share more concern about how Whitaker got a face full of blood. Isn't there some kind of post-exposure protocol?

There should be.  Amongst other things, he was doing an I&D on the guy's leg and there were bodily fluids, though not necessarily blood, going to be released.  The infection control protocol would require he wear eye protection at the very least.  The most appropriate procedure would've been to wear a cover gown over his scrubs and a mask over his nose and mouth in addition to the eyewear.

Same thing with tonsil kid.  He was bleeding all over the place when he came in.  Everyone should've been wearing cover gowns and eye protection.  Even though he was supposedly stable when the projectile bleeding started, there was no reason for everyone to be standing around unprotected.

And, yes, once Whittaker got a faceful of blood, one of the other docs should've stepped in and Whittaker sent to wash up immediately.  Blood work from the patient would've also been required.  Hanging around with blood drying on his face would not be allowed.

The abortion story was completely unbelievable, too. The kid and her aunt went to the ER to schedule an abortion for later that day? Who does that?  They are in Pittsburgh; not Podunk. I am sure there are multiple actual medical facilities such as Planned Parenthood nearby who would provide those services.  ER docs do not perform procedures that are not emergent, that's not part of their training or experience.  That Robby and his colleague had certification to prescribe mifepristone is a little far out, although I guess they might give it to patients who have ultrasounds that show non-viable pregnancies.  Many OB/GYN docs don't have mifepristone prescribing permits because it just isn't needed very often unless one is working for PP or another medical abortion center.  I've got the certificate and have rx'd it once in the past 4-5 years.  I cannot picture any ER doc wanting to be involved in the can of worms that is providing pregnancy termination care.  

Also, while it is true that Pennsylvania law does require parental consent for pregnancy terminations for minors; there is a pathway for the procedure without consent.  What should've happened is that the moment the mother appeared and the deception revealed; social services (the incredible Kiara) should've been called.  The pregnant patient clearly wanted the procedure.  In that case, a court order can be obtained to bypass parental consent.  The social worked would have clear guidelines as to how to get that started.

BTW, fudging the due date by a few days using ultrasound  is fortunately or unfortunately, not uncommon. I did not get why the ER doc insisted on repeating the scan, though.  She claimed that she had to do a completely redundant workup because the original doc who saw her wasn't there.  Well, that's the nature of working in the ER, the doctors work in shifts and pass patients along.  There was already an ultrasound on the chart, done just hours earlier by a member of the attending staff.  No need to repeat anything.

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debraran

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I saw blood go into Whittakers mouth, I worked at Yale for a bit and know bodily fluids in eyes, mouth, needle prick, they have to test the patient for certain diseases. I hope it was just an oversight.

Jake....is his girlfriend a guy maybe? I just feel the way everyone was throwing condoms at him and saying girlfriend, it might be something not expected anyway.

I don't know why the pregnant girl was almost 3 months but I don't think a court order can do much because by the time they do it, she'll be beyond the time frame. I might be wrong about that.

I guess the mass casualty that someone with a gun will cause, you can just feel it, will be later in the season. I dread it because I think beyond how upsetting it will be, Robby will break.

SoMuchTV

SoMuchTV

21 minutes ago, BC4ME said:

Where are people seeing previews for next week? There's nothing on my Max through HULU but the episodes.

I’m watching directly on Max, and when the credits start it goes up into a little window that you have reactivate to keep watching, then the preview is after the credits. Not sure if that’s different if it’s through Hulu. 

45 minutes ago, debraran said:

Jake....is his girlfriend a guy maybe? I just feel the way everyone was throwing condoms at him and saying girlfriend, it might be something not expected anyway.

I think he said the girlfriend’s name. Leah, maybe? Could be they’re a guy but I thought the joke was just that all these adults in his life were independently slipping him condoms. 

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Kelda Feegle

Kelda Feegle

Please don't let Santos be right about a dodgy vial cap, she's already unbearable. 

I thought the pregnant teen was going to quickly shove the pill she was holding into her mouth to start the process while the adults were shouting. I don't know if that would be a no turning back moment or not.

Angry big guy is being set up as going to be a problem. 

 

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iMonrey

iMonrey

20 hours ago, JeanJean said:

I dislike Santos more every week.

Me too, I'm getting really sick of her. 

This episode was a little more touchy-feely than the last few. I get that it was in service of a big exposition dump about some of the main characters but I thought the scene with the homeless woman, in particular, went on a little too long. I've come to expect a faster pace on this show. (Just a nitpick - still enjoying the show.)

Whitaker getting blasted and having to change scrubs has reached comical levels. They should really have dialed back on that. He can't be the only one needing scrub changes. What's he had now, five? Six? And it's only hour five. This isn't supposed to be a comedy. I think the machine said only two sets left. 

15 minutes ago, Kelda Feegle said:

I thought the pregnant teen was going to quickly shove the pill she was holding into her mouth to start the process while the adults were shouting. I don't know if that would be a no turning back moment or not.

I was shouting "take the pill! Take the pill!" as soon as the mother showed up and the deception was revealed. She didn't listen to me. 

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bilgistic

bilgistic

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6 hours ago, Notabug said:

The abortion story was completely unbelievable, too. The kid and her aunt went to the ER to schedule an abortion for later that day? Who does that?  They are in Pittsburgh; not Podunk. I am sure there are multiple actual medical facilities such as Planned Parenthood nearby who would provide those services.  ER docs do not perform procedures that are not emergent, that's not part of their training or experience.

This and the possibly unhoused woman being told to come back for a checkup on her wound bothered me. My husband lived in Pittsburgh many, many years ago. I asked him, "Do they not have urgent care in Pittsburgh?" Several of the cases we've seen should be at urgent care or other facility. No wonder the hospital is so slammed.

One wouldn't go back to the ER to have one's treated wound checked/have stitches removed; one would go to the GP or urgent care. (Though I realize that some people without insurance go to the ER because the ER can't turn away truly emergent patients without insurance.) Speaking from experience, one wouldn't go to the ER for an abortion (unless it was a emergency miscarriage, for example); one would go to a clinic that specializes in reproductive care.

Even having gone to urgent care a few times over the years, they've always requested that I follow up with my GP.

The ER is for emergencies.

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storyskip

storyskip

20 hours ago, Notabug said:

BTW, fudging the due date by a few days using ultrasound  is fortunately or unfortunately, not uncommon. I did not get why the ER doc insisted on repeating the scan, though.  She claimed that she had to do a completely redundant workup because the original doc who saw her wasn't there.  Well, that's the nature of working in the ER, the doctors work in shifts and pass patients along.  There was already an ultrasound on the chart, done just hours earlier by a member of the attending staff.  No need to repeat anything.

I got the sense that Collins has a personal stance on abortion that does not align with her responsibilities to a patient's request. Not only did reperforming the ultrasound delay the procedure, but it can also be considered a form of emotional manipulation to try to get the expectant mother to reconsider.

Include the fact that we know Collins is pregnant and I believe close to the same stage as the girl, she should never have been assigned that follow-up.

13 hours ago, bilgistic said:

This and the possibly unhoused woman being told to come back for a checkup on her wound bothered me. My husband lived in Pittsburgh many, many years ago. I asked him, "Do they not have urgent care in Pittsburgh?" Several of the cases we've seen should be at urgent care or other facility. No wonder the hospital is so slammed.

 (Though I realize that some people without insurance go to the ER because the ER can't turn away truly emergent patients without insurance.)

I think that was supposed to be the case here. She is possibly unhoused, and without an income or insurance. If I remember correctly, one of the reasons she left the first time was she was desperate to get her kids to school. School is probably where they get their only hot, balanced meals.

No money, no insurance she wouldn't have many options but to go to an ER which, can't turn her away.  I believe Urgent Care could turn her away if she did not have insurance, and no way to pay up front.

Also, without stories to follow we wouldn't have a show.

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bilgistic

bilgistic

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I assumed they were measuring the fetus's gestational age to see if they would have to do a surgical abortion, as Dr. Google tells me that a medication abortion (mifepristone and misoprostol) can be performed only up to ten weeks' gestation. That leaves me confused, since Dr. Robby fudged the age to 10.5 weeks and the girl said something like, "I made it by one day?!”

I'm old and had my abortion just months before mifepristone was FDA approved (2000). It's one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life; I never wanted children.

I was yelling at the girl to throw the pill down the hatch when her mother came in screaming. Imagine wanting your 17-year-old kid to have a baby.

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SeanBug

SeanBug

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On 1/31/2025 at 5:38 PM, Notabug said:

There should be.  Amongst other things, he was doing an I&D on the guy's leg and there were bodily fluids, though not necessarily blood, going to be released.  The infection control protocol would require he wear eye protection at the very least.  The most appropriate procedure would've been to wear a cover gown over his scrubs and a mask over his nose and mouth in addition to the eyewear.

Same thing with tonsil kid.  He was bleeding all over the place when he came in.  Everyone should've been wearing cover gowns and eye protection.  Even though he was supposedly stable when the projectile bleeding started, there was no reason for everyone to be standing around unprotected.

And, yes, once Whittaker got a faceful of blood, one of the other docs should've stepped in and Whittaker sent to wash up immediately.  Blood work from the patient would've also been required.  Hanging around with blood drying on his face would not be allowed.

The abortion story was completely unbelievable, too. The kid and her aunt went to the ER to schedule an abortion for later that day? Who does that?  They are in Pittsburgh; not Podunk. I am sure there are multiple actual medical facilities such as Planned Parenthood nearby who would provide those services.  ER docs do not perform procedures that are not emergent, that's not part of their training or experience.  That Robby and his colleague had certification to prescribe mifepristone is a little far out, although I guess they might give it to patients who have ultrasounds that show non-viable pregnancies.  Many OB/GYN docs don't have mifepristone prescribing permits because it just isn't needed very often unless one is working for PP or another medical abortion center.  I've got the certificate and have rx'd it once in the past 4-5 years.  I cannot picture any ER doc wanting to be involved in the can of worms that is providing pregnancy termination care.  

Also, while it is true that Pennsylvania law does require parental consent for pregnancy terminations for minors; there is a pathway for the procedure without consent.  What should've happened is that the moment the mother appeared and the deception revealed; social services (the incredible Kiara) should've been called.  The pregnant patient clearly wanted the procedure.  In that case, a court order can be obtained to bypass parental consent.  The social worked would have clear guidelines as to how to get that started.

BTW, fudging the due date by a few days using ultrasound  is fortunately or unfortunately, not uncommon. I did not get why the ER doc insisted on repeating the scan, though.  She claimed that she had to do a completely redundant workup because the original doc who saw her wasn't there.  Well, that's the nature of working in the ER, the doctors work in shifts and pass patients along.  There was already an ultrasound on the chart, done just hours earlier by a member of the attending staff.  No need to repeat anything.

Agree re the lack of proper safety precautions working with a patient who is bleeding, etc.  And letting him continue with all that blood all over him.  WTF

So I had my tonsils out in the Jurassic Era, but what caused the bleeding?  I'm not familiar with how that surgery is done now. 

As far as the teenager, I don't know anyone in this day and age who would go to a hospital for an abortion, medical or otherwise. Considering how scared they are of treating women with ectopic pregnancies, or who are miscarrying. 

And why the second doctor was being such a stickler about how far along she was. Who was going to question it? 

This whole situation makes my head hurt, IRL or in fiction. 

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

5 hours ago, bilgistic said:

was yelling at the girl to throw the pill down the hatch when her mother came in screaming. Imagine wanting your 17-year-old kid to have a baby.

I didn't understand why she didn't just grab the pill, pretty sure once it's started there's no stopping and they would most likely have to provide the second drug to make sure her system gets cleaned out.

What are the thoughts on Santos and not getting the cap off? I just thought the whole scene was to show she can't accept being wrong and thinks she knows more than everyone.  Yet I see theories (elsewhere) that the drug was diverted and she's going to uncover something shady.

I think the way the scene played out, it's more about Santos not learning/willing to learn.  I thought it was to show experience was just as valuable as books.

RunningMarket

RunningMarket

On 1/31/2025 at 11:48 AM, OLynn33 said:

The tonsillectomy complication was interesting because it's never shown and that actually happened near me and the child died. At the hospital where the operation was performed the department was shut down while they investigated because there had been 4 similar incidents although no deaths. Apparently it's a dangerous complication but really not talked about much. 

I spent 3 consecutive nights at the ER due to this complication, after having my tonsils out when I was 20. I luckily did not get to the point of this patient, but I scared the bejesus out of my parents with the amount of blood I was losing. It wasn't until after this happened that I researched it and learned while it's not common, it's also not rare.

I didn't realize until I watched this story line how much I still feel affected by that (25 years later). This show is really good at envoking emotions.

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Notabug

Notabug

5 hours ago, bilgistic said:

I assumed they were measuring the fetus's gestational age to see if they would have to do a surgical abortion, as Dr. Google tells me that a medication abortion (mifepristone and misoprostol) can be performed only up to ten weeks' gestation. That leaves me confused, since Dr. Robby fudged the age to 10.5 weeks and the girl said something like, "I made it by one day?!”

I am pretty sure that mifepristione medical terminations are only recommended at 11 weeks or under.  The odds of success are lower if the patient is further along.  So, while fudging the date gave the girl the option of a medical abortion rather than a surgical one; it was less likely to be successful which meant she might well need to get a surgical procedure in the end anyway.  Which is why places that provide medication to terminate pregnancies would generally have someone on call or referral to do the procedure should it be needed.  Another good reason that ER's don't do them.

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So I had my tonsils out in the Jurassic Era, but what caused the bleeding?  I'm not familiar with how that surgery is done now

It hasn't changed much.  The bleeding was due to an arterial bleeder.  Most likely, the wall of the artery was damaged at the time of the surgery, but there was a blood clot formed over the area which came loose when the kid coughed or something.  Usually that kind of stuff happens fairly shortly after the surgery; but then he wouldn't have been in the ER.

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 didn't understand why she didn't just grab the pill, pretty sure once it's started there's no stopping and they would most likely have to provide the second drug to make sure her system gets cleaned out

Mom could've insisted she be given syrup of ipecac and forced to vomit the pill back up.  The combo of mifepristone/misoprostol is about 98% effective in terminating a pregnancy in women under 10 weeks gestation.  Mifepristone alone works over 90% of the time, so, even if she never got the misoprisol, the girl would most likely lose the pregnanc.

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What are the thoughts on Santos and not getting the cap off?

I think it was meant to show that Santos is really inexperienced and needs a lot of help and supervision.  I cannot imagine any nefarious reason why the cap wouldn't pop off the vial, it takes a quick flick with a finger, not hard at all.  I can't picture any sort of manufacturing error that would damage the cap that wouldn't have been picked up at the factory, either.  I think Santos thinks she knows more than she does, and, when her weaknesses are exposed; she makes excuses rather than accepting that she just doesn't know everything.

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SoMuchTV

SoMuchTV

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58 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

What are the thoughts on Santos and not getting the cap off? I just thought the whole scene was to show she can't accept being wrong and thinks she knows more than everyone.  Yet I see theories (elsewhere) that the drug was diverted and she's going to uncover something shady.

Yeah, it just seems like an oddly specific way to go if they just want to show that she can’t accept being wrong. I guess we’ll see. Looking forward to it, actually!

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BC4ME

BC4ME

1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said:

What are the thoughts on Santos and not getting the cap off? I just thought the whole scene was to show she can't accept being wrong and thinks she knows more than everyone.  Yet I see theories (elsewhere) that the drug was diverted and she's going to uncover something shady.

I think the way the scene played out, it's more about Santos not learning/willing to learn.  I thought it was to show experience was just as valuable as books.

I think she is a narcissist. Some of them will go to unbelievable lengths to avoid being wrong. I have personal experience with this.

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txhorns79

txhorns79

On 1/30/2025 at 11:11 PM, fastiller said:

Whittaker can't catch a break.

Seriously.  I feel like we are going to get to a point where the machine is just going to be empty, leaving him in patient gown.  I did want to tell him that he should have washed the blood off his face before running to get new scrubs.  There's no reason he should be running around with blood on his face.  Having said that, I appreciated the other doctor did not for even a moment stop supporting him when the leg wound became a bloodbath.  There was no freak out.  She didn't throw him off the case or take the entire thing over herself.  She just calmly talked him through the next steps.  Maybe it's just an over consumption of medical shows, but that felt like such a breath of fresh air to me.

 

4 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I think the way the scene played out, it's more about Santos not learning/willing to learn.  I thought it was to show experience was just as valuable as books.

I was thinking that too.  We already saw a situation where she's struggled to take direction, and it the context of that, she appears to be doing it again.  

 

4 hours ago, SeanBug said:

Considering how scared they are of treating women with ectopic pregnancies, or who are miscarrying. 

That has mainly happened in hospitals where the state has largely banned abortion and only given doctors vague direction on how to avoid breaking the law.  Pennsylvania is not one of those states.     

marceline

marceline

15 hours ago, storyskip said:

I got the sense that Collins has a personal stance on abortion that does not align with her responsibilities to a patient's request. Not only did reperforming the ultrasound delay the procedure, but it can also be considered a form of emotional manipulation to try to get the expectant mother to reconsider.

Include the fact that we know Collins is pregnant and I believe close to the same stage as the girl, she should never have been assigned that follow-up.

I didn't see it that way. She didn't try to talk her out of it. She didn't debate with Robby whether it was "right." Her only concern was that her numbers didn't match the previous ones and she wasn't going to take the professional risk. She was perfectly straightforward with the dosing instructions and clearly unhappy when mom demanded she stop.

Also, the audience knows that Collins is pregnant and Dana knows but unless I missed something Collins is still keeping it secret. The Nepali patient could tell but no one else seems to know.

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iMonrey

iMonrey

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15 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

What are the thoughts on Santos and not getting the cap off? I just thought the whole scene was to show she can't accept being wrong and thinks she knows more than everyone.  Yet I see theories (elsewhere) that the drug was diverted and she's going to uncover something shady.

I'm hoping the season ends with Santos getting fired. The show seems to be deliberate in making us dislike her.

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

4 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I'm hoping the season ends with Santos getting fired. The show seems to be deliberate in making us dislike her.

Do we know if S2 will have all the same cast? Or do like 24 where it kept a core cast and brought in new people.  I was thinking if they keep Langdon/Collins/Robby/Nurses and replaced the med students and internship with new characters she might get fired.  If they intend to keep the whole cast then I thought Santos would fail up to Surgery (which is why she was buttering up Javadi).

Of course this is assuming each season is a new year.

Notabug

Notabug

4 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Do we know if S2 will have all the same cast? Or do like 24 where it kept a core cast and brought in new people.  I was thinking if they keep Langdon/Collins/Robby/Nurses and replaced the med students and internship with new characters she might get fired.  If they intend to keep the whole cast then I thought Santos would fail up to Surgery (which is why she was buttering up Javadi).

Of course this is assuming each season is a new year.

Since each season is supposed to be only one day in the life at this particular ER, it would be easy to bring in new interns, residents and students next year.  Robby is going to be a constant since, aside from the fact that NW is a terrific actor and a producer on the show; he anchors the rest of the cast and gives us a point of reference.  Same thing with the charge nurse.  But, we could easily start next season on a new day with a different crew of supporting characters.

debraran

debraran

On 2/1/2025 at 9:16 PM, SoMuchTV said:

Yeah, it just seems like an oddly specific way to go if they just want to show that she can’t accept being wrong. I guess we’ll see. Looking forward to it, actually!

I think they will find they are being tampered with. Someone in almost every medical show has an addcition

23 hours ago, marceline said:

I didn't see it that way. She didn't try to talk her out of it. She didn't debate with Robby whether it was "right." Her only concern was that her numbers didn't match the previous ones and she wasn't going to take the professional risk. She was perfectly straightforward with the dosing instructions and clearly unhappy when mom demanded she stop.

Also, the audience knows that Collins is pregnant and Dana knows but unless I missed something Collins is still keeping it secret. The Nepali patient could tell but no one else seems to know.

Some nurses and doctor's follow rules to the letter. I see that especially if younger. You don't want to falsify notes and in a case like this where it wasn't abuse or life and death, she felt it was wrong. If something went wrong with the patient, she'd feel even worse.

I remember in the 80's a very young nurse on a floor who refused to "snow" a cancer patient (I think), the amount of morphine or other strong drug, she was asked  to give a patient, she knew would probably kill him and she said No, but her head nurse said, No problem, I will. Now those grey areas are stricter, but I didn't think it was odd, pregnant or not, for her to feel wrong. They aren't pushing agenda's, they are trying to follow guidelines without losing their hard earned degree.

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Raachel2008

Raachel2008

On 2/1/2025 at 11:37 PM, BC4ME said:

I think she is a narcissist. Some of them will go to unbelievable lengths to avoid being wrong. I have personal experience with this.

I'm not sure if she is a narcissist, but she is arrogant as hell. When she said 'we are going to intubate' I thought WTF? She is a medical student, she doesn't call the shots - and there was a senior resident and a senior attending there - Roby is twice her age and 20 times more experienced.

The vial cap crap was Santos trying to cover the fact she couldn't open the cap. It doesn't matter if she didn't manage to do it because she didn't have the experience or was nervous or, I dunno, her gloves were not giving her enough grip. The point there is that she cannot accept she 'failed'. Santos thinks she is right and knows better and she does not. She isn't even that gifted.

I wanted to bitch slap Santos so bad when she mocked Whittaker calling him a 'poor Huckleberry' and then said 'I guess you better not fuck everything else today'. She already fucked twice and could have killed her patient last week.

And let's not mention Santos asking Donahue about going over a resident to the attending, because she clearly thinks she knows betteeeer.

Show her the door, now.

Speaking about Whittaker, no mask? No googles? And everybody was that calm after the got patient's blood on his nose, mouth and eyes? How come they didn't test the patients and didn't start some prophylaxis for Whittaker? And that happened twice.

Loved Jake and love how everybody seemed to know him and love him. 

McKay was really good with the mom, and it was nice knowing a little of her backstory. And she was good calling Javadi on her impulsiveness and judgemental decisions, while teaching her. The actress playing the mom was really good. 

The plot with the tonsillitis kid was just absurd, why would they risk when Garcia was right there? She was right, they were lucky.

I can't with Collins apologizing to Mohan. It is one thing to be slow and build a rapport with a patient, it is another to risk a patient's life because you have your way to do things.

Why anyone would do to the ER to get an abortion??

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Notabug

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10 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

This might be a dumb question,  I had my tonsils removed when I was 5 and that's several decades ago. Is that now an outpatient procedure? I remember being in the hospital for a couple of days. 

I wasn't sure how long it was between his surgery and ER visit. I'm sure it was mentioned but I totally missed it.

Yes, tonsillectomies are an outpatient procedure with most patients being discharged an hour or two afterwards.

 

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Why anyone would do to the ER to get an abortion??

Short answer: they wouldn't.  The show wanted to do the story since it is a prominent medical issue currently, so, just like ER used to do; they had ER docs doing stuff that ER docs would never do.

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On 2/4/2025 at 1:20 AM, Raachel2008 said:

Why anyone would do to the ER to get an abortion??

I don't know how plausible this is, but the girl and her aunt had an appointment with that doctor Abbott, the one who went off duty in episode one, and they missed it. It's possible he has his own private practice, saw her in his office, then told her to stop by the emergency clinic the next day when he was on duty so he could dispense the pills. Since they missed their appointment with him they stuck around to see if they could get them from someone else.

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Notabug

Notabug

3 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I don't know how plausible this is, but the girl and her aunt had an appointment with that doctor Abbott, the one who went off duty in episode one, and they missed it. It's possible he has his own private practice, saw her in his office, then told her to stop by the emergency clinic the next day when he was on duty so he could dispense the pills. Since they missed their appointment with him they stuck around to see if they could get them from someone else.

Not very likely, I'm afraid.  ER docs don't have private practices where they see patients outside of the ER. And, even if they did, they wouldn't be providing medical abortions either.

Notabug

Notabug

7 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Do they do abortions at Urgent Care or is it only planned parent hood?  

Abortions are not performed at Urgent Care or emergency rooms.  They are performed at health centers specifically built for that purpose.  Planned Parenthood is one organization that provides services such as abortion to its clients.  If you search 'pregnancy termination near me' you'll find options in your area.

Elective termination of pregnancy, ie abortion, is neither an urgent or emergency service.  The local clinics most likely do not take walk-ins, but see women by appointment only.

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3 hours ago, Notabug said:

Not very likely, I'm afraid.  ER docs don't have private practices where they see patients outside of the ER. And, even if they did, they wouldn't be providing medical abortions either.

Interesting, at one point in his career my brother in law owned/worked at his own urgent care practice, and also took some shifts in an ER.  But he wasn't in PA, and maybe I misunderstood his exact situation.

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