S5.E18: Reunion Part 2

ZettaK · January 29

The husbands talk about their role in their wives' arguments; tensions reach an all-time high as Meredith attempts to clear her name to Angie's husband, Shawn, over the rumours that have circled the group for the past two years.

First aired on 1/29/2025.

Baltimore Betty · January 30

It was an analogy!!!!

Straycat80 · January 30

I wish they’d get the huzzbands off the stage. Rehashing stuff from last season? I’m only half watching, everyone screaming BITCH is getting annoying.

Stats Queen · January 30

Seth is a little beetch

Baltimore Betty · January 30

Robert Sr. did nothing to help Mary with Robert Jr.?

Straycat80 · January 30

4 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Robert Sr. did nothing to help Mary with Robert Jr.?

I thought she said he did because he had problems with drugs when he was a young man?

Baltimore Betty · January 30

6 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I thought she said he did because he had problems with drugs when he was a young man?

I missed that but it's his son, get on a plane and go to your son and wife that is struggling.

I think I was confused.

Edited January 30 by Baltimore Betty

SweetieDarling · January 30

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

It was an analogy!!!!

Lisa: "Yes it was a nalogy!"

njbchlover · January 30

2 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I wish they’d get the huzzbands off the stage. Rehashing stuff from last season? I’m only half watching, everyone screaming BITCH is getting annoying.

Seriously!!!! Why are they even wasting any time at all on what happened last season with Monica? Why give Monica more publicity? I guess they were trying to get Angie and Meredith to resolve their differences, which stemmed from Monica twisting the truth and lying to the women? Either way, it was a waste of time, imo.

Angie and Lisa both need shock collars, because even using their "safe words" wasn't helping Andy to get them to shut up. Put those pet shock collars on them, give Andy the remote thing and let him "buzz" them into silence, for God's sake!!! They're both very quick to jump to conclusions and then run their mouths so fast and furious and so loudly to defend those conclusions to the confusion of everyone else.

The husbands didn't add much. Seth is an asshole, Todd is an asshole, Justin is a jerk. Shawn and John, to me, seem to be very much controlled by their fast talking wives.

Mary's story was gut wrenching, while at the same time, disturbing, because I still don't know if I agree with putting all of that out on camera. I'm glad that Robert, Jr. is doing well now, but it still seems like maybe not the correct approach to dealing with substance abuse issues.

It was interesting to see that everyone was crying, except for Meredith. She seemed moved by the story, but remained pretty stone-faced throughout it all. I knew as soon as Mary started talking about Robert, Jr. and his problems that Whitney would turn it into something about her father. Andy seemed particularly moved and he usually doesn't show that much emotion on these reunion shows.

I'm looking forward to next week and see how Britani deals with the fallout from her less than stellar "friend of" appearances.

Other than that, there was a lot of spray tan on those ladies - I'm wondering how much was left on the couches!

princelina · January 30

So Mary has been a "pastor" for almost 30 years and doesn't know that AA has meetings and not classes? I guess when her parishioners dealt with these difficult issues they were on their own while she sniffed designer shoes and handbags in her closet. And then one of her closing lines was, "I have never used anybody in my life!" Okay sure. And then Andy has her on WWHL. Disgusting.

njbchlover · January 30

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

It was an analogy!!!!

1 hour ago, SweetieDarling said:

Lisa: "Yes it was a nalogy!"

But, was it an analogy/a nalogy or was it a metaphor? I think Lisa got confused when Andy referred to Robert, Jr.'s conversation as a metaphor instead of agreeing with her 'nalogy comment.

RealHousewife · January 30

7 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Other than that, there was a lot of spray tan on those ladies - I'm wondering how much was left on the couches!

That's one reason I don't like to use spray tan or body makeup unless I really have something to cover. It's annoying enough when my tinted sunscreen or foundation smears on my clothing and whatnot. I used to think celebs had special tricks (beyond powder and setting spray) to prevent mishaps, but Adrienne Maloof and Dorit have both gotten either tanner or body makeup on couches.

Edited January 30 by RealHousewife

SemiCharmedLife · January 30

Meredith loves to point out that she wasn't the one who shared the rumor about Shawn...but, Meredith was the one who brought up "rumors about the huzzzband." So, she wants everyone to think she has been wronged by Angie for two years because Monica forewarned her about what the rumors were. I don't find Meredith so innocent in all this.

dancingdreamer · January 30

I was watching to see if Andy would mention the part where Robert Jr said he felt like a stain, because when Robert said it, it caught in my throat. For him to feel like that, and for a mother to hear it, must of been awful, just awful. I've always had a soft spot for Mary, I know she's not perfect, but I just feel something for her.

Todd looked he was going to cry, when it was mentioned Gwen caught him talking to another woman. I actually don't mind him, Seth is ick. I wouldn't give the others a second look, but I'm not married to them.

Lisa is back to crying next week, and Britni is on the couch. I don't feel she adds much to the show.

Chatty Cake · January 30

Bronwyn got away with flat out lying about the Todd affair bullshit. Now it’s simply that he texted/communicated with someone more than she liked? What a lying asshole! Todd was ready to jump down John Barlow’s throat but let his goofy wife lie about an affair?

Whitney pretending to be upset about Mary talking about her son and likening it to her dad’s problems was also bullshit. She used her dad for filming. They haven’t been close in years. Andy should have ignored her.

Rlb8031 · January 30

8 hours ago, princelina said:

So Mary has been a "pastor" for almost 30 years and doesn't know that AA has meetings and not classes? I guess when her parishioners dealt with these difficult issues they were on their own while she sniffed designer shoes and handbags in her closet. And then one of her closing lines was, "I have never used anybody in my life!" Okay sure. And then Andy has her on WWHL. Disgusting.

Mary's church isn't the type to do a lot of work with organizations like AA. I grew up with friends who were in similar Pentecostal and COGIC churches, and if you had those types of problems you came to the church itself and spent time in prayer and fellowship. She doesn't have the "AA meets here every Thursday, Boy Scouts every Friday" type congregation. It's not surprising to me at all - plus Mary simply isn't very book smart or well-read. That comment was perfectly on brand for her.

StevieRocks · January 30

Glad to see Andy address thieving charlatan Elmer Gantry Mary's "engagement" in the show this year. As many have suspected, she was probably told she couldn't keep her snowflake money whilst hiding in her closet and scarfing down McDonald's alone in a backseat during filming. I hope Angie is feeling good about keeping her nose firmly planted in Elmer Gantry's booty since Elmer Gantry ordered her to make things right with Meredith. 🤣 God bless Robert, Jr. and all the best to him.

StevieRocks · January 30

9 hours ago, princelina said:

So Mary has been a "pastor" for almost 30 years and doesn't know that AA has meetings and not classes? I guess when her parishioners dealt with these difficult issues they were on their own while she sniffed designer shoes and handbags in her closet. And then one of her closing lines was, "I have never used anybody in my life!" Okay sure. And then Andy has her on WWHL. Disgusting.

There you go---Always expecting the church to help the community. Siiiigh. Girl, you know good and well that those meetings put out coffee, creamers, stirrers, cups, and sometimes even donuts. How is she supposed to buy gaudy designer 💩 when hospitality like that is cutting into the profits? Smh. I can see why YOU aren't running a for profit church, dang.

heatherchandler · January 30

Heather is such a loser. She looks smug sitting with who she perceives to be the popular girls. Btw what was Heather’s story line? I don’t think she had one. She’s so boring and such a suck up.

Pi237 · January 30

Omg No One Cares about Meredith’s rage. Why is so much time being spent on this? She’s a ridiculous person who thinks she’s more important than she is. And Monica is last season and already forgotten by the viewers. Move On!

SweetieDarling · January 30

laughing at John Barlow telling Todd "This is a friendly environment, watch your tone." and Todd's response of "Really?"

Pi237 · January 30

Prayers to Mary's son, but I can't forget how Mary & her family exploit their followers. Her ego is gross. And this is going on too long and not fun to watch. Sorry, I watch this crap for fun. Enough Mary worship, she's gotten enough for one lifetime. Lets move on Opa! Besos!

7 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

laughing at John Barlow telling Todd "This is a friendly environment, watch your tone." and Todd's response of "Really?"

Lol at Brownwyn telling Todd to 'hold back' because John was a little spicy. As if either of them would break out in fisticuffs.

Pi237 · January 30

Kadooz to the editors for showing Meredith calling people names. She really thinks she's victimized by everyone and is an innocent little lamb. I honestly can't stand her. They're all narcissists, but at least the others can be fun or funny once in a while. Meredith is such a screechy wet blanket. Everything anyone says to her, she finds offense and gets the vapors.

Edited January 30 by Pi237

65mickey · January 30

I make no bones about not liking Bronwyn and Todd on this show. But I did feel a little sympathy for him last night. He is obviously uncomfortable with having to put his life out in the public. Why is he doing this? They don't seem to need the money. It seems like Todd is just humoring Bronwyn by allowing her to drag him into this circus. In the past there have been other husbands who pretty much stayed off camera and did not take part in the fights namely Harry Hamlin and the crooked tom Girardi. This is the housewives show not the housewives and their spouses.

dmeets · January 30

12 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Meredith loves to point out that she wasn't the one who shared the rumor about Shawn...but, Meredith was the one who brought up "rumors about the huzzzband." So, she wants everyone to think she has been wronged by Angie for two years because Monica forewarned her about what the rumors were. I don't find Meredith so innocent in all this.

THANK YOU! Meredith trying to skate by on a technicality. She didn't specify the rumor, but she's the one who first mentioned to Lisa on camera that there were "the reuuumers... the nahhhstiness" and that she could "go there with the huzzzzband." Her usual MO of bringing up rumors and waiting for someone else to fill in the blanks. Andy should have told her to sit down or let her walk off. If Monica's a liar according to Right Couch then why should Shawn and Angie have absolved Meredith after the Greek Easter party? The footage wasn't the vindication she thinks it was. So let her storm off never to return. And I say that as someone who considered her my favorite HW seasons 1 and 2. Her main storyline was continuing a shallow three-year old feud so it's not like she's adding much these days.

When the reuummers about the huzzzband were first revealed, Lisa claimed she'd never heard it (even though Heather said all of Utah knew about it). Now this reunion, Lisa's acting like it's common knowledge and no big deal to casually bring up as a nalogy when she's feeling the heat.

If Angie, Meredith and Mary all return I think the Angie/Mary friendship may be toast as Meredith and Mary reconnect. Angie looked a little disappointed and concerned at that hug at the end. I don't see Meredith sweeping her issues with Angie under the rug the way she did with Jen and Lisa since she doesn't have a history of friendship with Angie, and I can't see Mary pulling an Erika Jayne and trying to stay neutral.

Heather didn't say a whole lot but still she can STFU. Smugly saying that Shawn is at fault regardless of the way the question was asked because why he shouldn't be on a podcast in the first place. Haven't all of these beyotches been on podcasts?

I don't know why Andy or Bravo insists on devoting at least half an episode at every reunion to the husbands but I wish they'd stop doing it.

Edited January 30 by dmeets

CooryIn · January 30

Lisa, Heather and Meredith are painful to listen to.

I used to enjoy Lisa and Meredith for their delusions of grandeur and overall ridiculousness but now I would be glad to never hear their blustering and screeching ever again.

I don’t know if it’s a sign I’m getting old but the constant effing n bitching is irritating as feck

on a more positive note I find Justin strangely attractive

princelina · January 30

7 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Bronwyn got away with flat out lying about the Todd affair bullshit. Now it’s simply that he texted/communicated with someone more than she liked? What a lying asshole!

I thought Todd looked shocked when someone said Gwen read his texts and outed his non-affair - I wondered if that was the first he ever heard that story! And when Andy questioned him he just muttered something like "It's difficult for everyone" and Bronwyn looked back and said to him "You're alright." I feel like I might be Team Todd in the divorce!

4 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

Mary's church isn't the type to do a lot of work with organizations like AA. I grew up with friends who were in similar Pentecostal and COGIC churches, and if you had those types of problems you came to the church itself and spent time in prayer and fellowship. She doesn't have the "AA meets here every Thursday, Boy Scouts every Friday" type congregation. It's not surprising to me at all - plus Mary simply isn't very book smart or well-read. That comment was perfectly on brand for her.

I get that - but people still learn these things if they leave their closets and walk with people i difficulty. If someone can prove to me that Mary was spending time in prayer and fellowship with her troubled parishioners I'll apologize, but for now I feel pretty comfortable continuing to dislike her and calling her a faker and a cheat.

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Heather is such a loser. She looks smug sitting with who she perceives to be the popular girls. Btw what was Heather’s story line? I don’t think she had one. She’s so boring and such a suck up.

She also looks smug because of whatever she did to her face! She looks like she's sucking in her cheeks and sneering, when she's actually just sitting there with overdone Plastic Surgery Face!

39 minutes ago, dmeets said:

THANK YOU! Meredith trying to skate by on a technicality. She didn't specify the rumor, but she's the one who first mentioned to Lisa on camera that there were "the reuuumers... the nahhhstiness" and that she could "go there with the huzzzzband." Her usual MO of bringing up rumors and waiting for someone else to fill in the blanks. Andy should have told her to sit down or let her walk off. If Monica's a liar according to Right Couch then why should Shawn and Angie have absolved Meredith after the Greek Easter party? The footage wasn't the vindication she thinks it was. So let her storm off never to return. And I say that as someone who considered her my favorite HW seasons 1 and 2. Her main storyline was continuing a shallow three-year old feud so it's not like she's adding much these days.

When the reuummers about the huzzzband were first revealed, Lisa claimed she'd never heard it (even though Heather said all of Utah knew about it). Now this reunion, Lisa's acting like it's common knowledge and no big deal to casually bring up as a nalogy when she's feeling the heat.

If Angie, Meredith and Mary all return I think the Angie/Mary friendship may be toast as Meredith and Mary reconnect. Angie looked a little disappointed and concerned at that hug at the end. I don't see Meredith sweeping her issues with Angie under the rug the way she did with Jen and Lisa since she doesn't have a history of friendship with Angie, and I can't see Mary pulling an Erika Jayne and trying to stay neutral.

Heather didn't say a whole lot but still she can STFU. Smugly saying that Shawn is at fault regardless of the way the question was asked because why he shouldn't be on a podcast in the first place. Haven't all of these beyotches been on podcasts?

I don't know why Andy or Bravo insists on devoting at least half an episode at every reunion to the husbands but I wish they'd stop doing it.

I agree - these women humiliate themselves, husbands, families for a paycheck they supposedly don't even need and low-level tv fame. If they want to leave let them go! And Angie better not get too attached to Mary - she's a friend to no one.

goofygirl · January 30

4 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I make no bones about not liking Bronwyn and Todd on this show. But I did feel a little sympathy for him last night. He is obviously uncomfortable with having to put his life out in the public. Why is he doing this? They don't seem to need the money. It seems like Todd is just humoring Bronwyn by allowing her to drag him into this circus. In the past there have been other husbands who pretty much stayed off camera and did not take part in the fights namely Harry Hamlin and the crooked tom Girardi. This is the housewives show not the housewives and their spouses.

ITA. It's just a place for them to show off their clothes, houses, hair, glam.....

SemiCharmedLife · January 31

8 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Kadooz to the editors for showing Meredith calling people names. She really thinks she's victimized by everyone and is an innocent little lamb. I honestly can't stand her. They're all narcissists, but at least the others can be fun or funny once in a while. Meredith is such a screechy wet blanket. Everything anyone says to her, she finds offense and gets the vapors.

Yes! It would have been even better if the producers had a big monitor in front of the ladies so they could see some of these clips. Meredith is delusional if she thinks she is the victim of the name calling. She gives as good as she gets.

RedInk · January 31

Remember when Angie felt a little sympathy for Brittani, who was bawling her eyes out, and Mary made Angie grovel and apologize for attempting to comfort her? Because it was an enormous offense to show a modicum of kindness toward someone Mary doesn’t like? That’s all I was thinking about when Mary ordered Angie to be okay with Meredith, who was moments before attacking and insulting Angie, because Mary likes her.
Meredith is insufferable and has probably never been a good time for a minute of her life, but Bronwyn might be my least favorite housewife ever. I wanted Heather to leave the Todd affair conversation alone because the secondhand embarrassment over Bronwyn’s lies being exposed was so intense. Bronwyn is a disingenuous grifter.

Ms.Lulu · January 31

I hope that Meredith demanding a clip be played or she would walk (Bravo did, but also played the clip supporting Angie) is the last straw for Andy. He did not look pleased.

Baltimore Betty · January 31

11 hours ago, RedInk said:

Bronwyn is a disingenuous grifter.

I get that vibe from her too, she is doing the long con on Todd(ler), he will do or say anything to act like he is not being conned. That is the vibe I have when I see both of them.

ichbin · January 31

Is no one else distracted by Justin's mouth full of Chiclets? They're veneers, right? Should be a cautionary tale for anyone considering having that done.

Has there been any reference to Robert Jr.'s wife/girlfriend who we last saw hanging out in his bed?

On 1/30/2025 at 1:45 PM, princelina said:

I get that - but people still learn these things if they leave their closets and walk with people i difficulty. If someone can prove to me that Mary was spending time in prayer and fellowship with her troubled parishioners I'll apologize, but for now I feel pretty comfortable continuing to dislike her and calling her a faker and a cheat.

This, this, this!!!

I feel that she is getting a huge pass on all of the nastiness and poor behavior she has displayed. As a parent, and a human, I have sympathy for what she and her son are going through, but I can keep that separately in my mind and still dislike her as a person. Not once can I recall her ever displaying any remorse or regret for any of the horrible things she has said about her cast mates which were mostly unwarranted. I suspect there is reason for her becoming more actively involved this season than any other time in the past and have my doubts it has anything to do with actually wanting to be there or interact with any of the others, including her new bestie Angie.

On 1/30/2025 at 1:45 PM, princelina said:

I thought Todd looked shocked when someone said Gwen read his texts and outed his non-affair - I wondered if that was the first he ever heard that story! And when Andy questioned him he just muttered something like "It's difficult for everyone" and Bronwyn looked back and said to him "You're alright." I feel like I might be Team Todd in the divorce!

Who knows what actually happened considering how her story changed. She's another person who seems to fancy herself the smartest in the room and capable of bamboozling everyone much like Brynn on RHoNY, as though nobody is smart enough to catch their inconsistencies. Both could tell me water is wet and I wouldn't believe them based upon what I've seen and heard from either.

On 1/30/2025 at 1:45 PM, princelina said:

She also looks smug because of whatever she did to her face! She looks like she's sucking in her cheeks and sneering, when she's actually just sitting there with overdone Plastic Surgery Face!

I dont' think this is actually that far off. I also noticed she appears to be very intent on really listening to what is being said and like there are copious mental notes being made.

BloggerAloud · February 1

The reunion makes it so abundantly clear that Meredith, Heather, and Lisa had a pact going into this season and are doing their absolute most to maintain a unified front.

Ms.Lulu · February 1

2 hours ago, BloggerAloud said:

The reunion makes it so abundantly clear that Meredith, Heather, and Lisa had a pact going into this season and are doing their absolute most to maintain a unified front.

I think they believe that if they stick together then Bravo won't get rid of any of them. Except:

1) Bravo showed Meredith name calling when she said she didn't

2) Bravo showed Meredith's threat clip and then showed Angie was also right.

3) In R1, Bravo showed Heather whispering to Lisa in the fight with Bronwyn to just apologize as Bronwyn's got this

4) Bravo reinforced that John can't park

5) Andy flat out said that the podcast interviewer was asking leading questions to Sean

6) Bravo showed very little footage of Heather from the season

7) They went out of their way to suggest Lisa is shallow by showing how she lacks empathy, talks of cyber lawyers, and how she hasn't flown coach in years.

It seemed like Andy and Bravo were backing Mary, Angie and Bronwyn. And they were showing the hypocrisy of Lisa and Meredith. Heather and Whitney were sitting at the kids table.

Edited February 1 by Ms.Lulu

Stats Queen · February 1

5 minutes ago, Ms.Lulu said:

4) Bravo reinforced that John can't park

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ms.Lulu · February 1

Oh, and this made me think of Heather and Lisa.

You're welcome!

https://www.instagram.com/sienaumetsu/reel/DE4QSYPR9IU/

princelina · February 1

2 hours ago, Ms.Lulu said:

It seemed like Andy and Bravo were backing Mary, Angie and Bronwyn. And they were showing the hypocrisy of Lisa and Meredith. Heather and Whitney were sitting at the kids table.

I still can't believe that they brought Mary onto WWHL, and the fact that she appeared speaks volumes about all of them, IMO, and none of it good. But I don't think Andy's brave enough to dump both Lisa AND Meredith, and showcase a season around Mary, Angie and Bronwyn. They may like Mary because she's amusing, but she's really really unreliable as a human being; Bronwyn seems to be a scammer who could fall apart at any minute PLUS needs a Lisa/Meredith to play off of, and Angie is better as a"friend" doing Easter parties than a main character. Heather and Whitney are indeed at the "kid's table" and need to stay there.

pasdetrois · February 1

19 hours ago, ichbin said:

I suspect there is reason for her becoming more actively involved this season than any other time in the past and have my doubts it has anything to do with actually wanting to be there or interact with any of the others,

As is always the case with housewives, it's about ratings for Bravo, and money and attention for the housewives. Bravo recognizes that Mary is reality TV gold and clearly doesn't care that she has destroyed lives.

ichbin · February 1

18 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

As is always the case with housewives, it's about ratings for Bravo, and money and attention for the housewives. Bravo recognizes that Mary is reality TV gold and clearly doesn't care that she has destroyed lives.

I don't disagree.

The Bravo powers that be have never been consistent in their treatment of people though. For instance, compare the way Ramona was treated (on RHoNY and on WWHL) to the way Mary has been treated throughout her time on SLC. They share many similarities in their delivery (if anything I think Mary is worse in total) yet Mary seems to be handled with kid gloves and deference while Ramona was not. Again, I'd like to know the reason for that.

ZettaK · February 1

I'm in Park City since yesterday. There is a billboard advertising Heather's Beauty Lab + Laser which are in Murray and Riverton on the I-80 highway, just after the Salt Lake City airport, going toward the city.

Meredith's store on Park City's Main Street was closed at after 7pm (it closes at 7pm). I might go by today (not a Meredith fan).

Edited February 1 by ZettaK

Sweet-tea · February 1

On 1/30/2025 at 9:18 AM, heatherchandler said:

Heather is such a loser. She looks smug sitting with who she perceives to be the popular girls. Btw what was Heather’s story line? I don’t think she had one. She’s so boring and such a suck up.

She looked pleased when they played the clip of Todd calling her "exceptionally attractive."

On 1/30/2025 at 9:55 AM, Pi237 said:

Kadooz to the editors for showing Meredith calling people names. She really thinks she's victimized by everyone and is an innocent little lamb. I honestly can't stand her. They're all narcissists, but at least the others can be fun or funny once in a while. Meredith is such a screechy wet blanket. Everything anyone says to her, she finds offense and gets the vapors.

She has a very quick trigger. She's a weird mix of drugged/out of it one minute to screeching and full tilt rage the next. I can imagine some of her arguments with Seth. I expect it's not pretty.

3 hours ago, ichbin said:

The Bravo powers that be have never been consistent in their treatment of people though. For instance, compare the way Ramona was treated (on RHoNY and on WWHL) to the way Mary has been treated throughout her time on SLC. They share many similarities in their delivery (if anything I think Mary is worse in total) yet Mary seems to be handled with kid gloves and deference while Ramona was not. Again, I'd like to know the reason for that.

I don't get it either. And Andy essentially admitted that Mary was checked out until Angie arrived, so she wasn't exactly reality TV friendly then. They filmed events without her because she wouldn't participate. He has let her slide with all the church controversy. I feel sorry for her son, but I don't like how she used his addiction for a storyline. She also gained a lot of sympathy from it. I don't find her especially watchable. She doesn't strike me as a nice person. I'd be fine if she was off the show.

However, most of the women on this show don't come across as particularly nice people. I guess that's the point. Nice doesn't necessarily equate to good reality TV.

Shawn and John are the least off-putting husbands to me, with Seth being #1.

Random: I wish Lisa would try a shorter, softer hairstyle. The Cher circa 1977 look isn't especially flattering to her.

Edited February 1 by Sweet-tea

Natalie68 · February 1

23 hours ago, ichbin said:

Is no one else distracted by Justin's mouth full of Chiclets? They're veneers, right? Should be a cautionary tale for anyone considering having that done.

Has there been any reference to Robert Jr.'s wife/girlfriend who we last saw hanging out in his bed?

This, this, this!!!

I feel that she is getting a huge pass on all of the nastiness and poor behavior she has displayed. As a parent, and a human, I have sympathy for what she and her son are going through, but I can keep that separately in my mind and still dislike her as a person. Not once can I recall her ever displaying any remorse or regret for any of the horrible things she has said about her cast mates which were mostly unwarranted. I suspect there is reason for her becoming more actively involved this season than any other time in the past and have my doubts it has anything to do with actually wanting to be there or interact with any of the others, including her new bestie Angie.

Who knows what actually happened considering how her story changed. She's another person who seems to fancy herself the smartest in the room and capable of bamboozling everyone much like Brynn on RHoNY, as though nobody is smart enough to catch their inconsistencies. Both could tell me water is wet and I wouldn't believe them based upon what I've seen and heard from either.

I dont' think this is actually that far off. I also noticed she appears to be very intent on really listening to what is being said and like there are copious mental notes being made.

YES! Between his teeth, icky clothes and HUGE face, he gives me the icks. His huge face cannot be helped but he did NOT have to ask for Winter Ice Chiclets for his teeth.

Sweet-tea · February 2

On 1/30/2025 at 11:57 AM, dmeets said:

Angie looked a little disappointed and concerned at that hug at the end

This is what I find concerning about Angie and Mary’s friendship. In a healthy relationship, a person can be friends with more than one person. Angie wouldn’t be threatened or concerned about Mary’s friendship with Meredith, and Mary wouldn’t care about Angie’s other friends. But what I’m seeing being set up is this weird dynamic that Angie has to be ride or die for Mary, and she is disloyal if she has other friends that Mary doesn’t like or might be upset with. Meanwhile, Angie may be jealous of attention Mary pays to other women friends.

I’ve been down this road in my life, and I can tell you it is painful, pointless and traumatic.

Edited February 2 by Sweet-tea

pasdetrois · February 2

On 2/1/2025 at 1:09 PM, ichbin said:

Again, I'd like to know the reason for that.

Ramona was exhibiting racist behavior - subtle but there, and I think she was making demands. Speculation was that's why she was booted, because otherwise she was also considered reality TV gold.

I see consistency in that Bravo features housewives who may, or do, drive up ratings and help keep their ad revenue up. They experiment with the formula from time to time. We wonder why they keep the loathsome crooks like Mary, Jenn, Teresa, and Erica, but I think it's because they draw hate watchers in large numbers They generate a lot of activity on social media and Bravo stokes the flames by giving these vermin ample camera time.

Edited February 2 by pasdetrois

ichbin · February 2

2 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Ramona was exhibiting racist behavior - subtle but there, and I think she was making demands. Speculation was that's why she was booted, because otherwise she was also considered reality TV gold.

Ramona was mocked for years prior to the boot and any perceived racism was not part of it.

As far as racist behavior goes, Mary came right out of the gate making eye raising comments that were pretty much brushed aside in addition to not exactly being a team player within the cast.

dmeets · February 2

On 1/31/2025 at 4:40 PM, BloggerAloud said:

The reunion makes it so abundantly clear that Meredith, Heather, and Lisa had a pact going into this season and are doing their absolute most to maintain a unified front.

It was evident at the Besos dinner episode 1 when the three of them shouted all their grievances at Whitney at the same time. They don’t care who they bounce off the show between Bronwyn, Angie, and Whitney. They just want to be sure a snowflake is freed up for the felon once she’s released from prison.

ZettaK · February 4

On 2/2/2025 at 5:42 PM, dmeets said:

It was evident at the Besos dinner episode 1 when the three of them shouted all their grievances at Whitney at the same time. They don’t care who they bounce off the show between Bronwyn, Angie, and Whitney. They just want to be sure a snowflake is freed up for the felon once she’s released from prison.

Heather is dying to have Jenn Shah back.

ZettaK · February 4

Meredith mentioned "the wumors about the huzzzbins" first, and she provided the details to Monica as Monica initially claimed. In what "streets" did Monica hear about them, as she later claimed? Meredith is responsible for the "revelation" and it went on for years because she hates Angie, so she can "leave" the histrionics (but we know she won't) off the reunion. I can't believe she threatened to leave the reunion unless Beavo showed clips. She didn't expect Bravo to show all clips, and excerpts from the podcast with Shawn.

dmeets · February 4

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

I can't believe she threatened to leave the reunion unless Beavo showed clips. She didn't expect Bravo to show all clips, and excerpts from the podcast with Shawn.

I still can't get over her "exoneration" being the word of Monica, who had said the opposite in an earlier scene, and who the trio had just got done shrieking was a liar.

Lisa's the most disappointing of the trio, since she was the one who was warned by Meredith that she's heard about "the reeuuumers, the nahhhstiness" and that if Angie wants to go there with the huzzzzbind, Meredith can go there.

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