S01.E03: A Guy Named Greg

[chitowngirl]

Matty's rusty trial skills are put to the test during a wrongful termination case by a woman claiming she was sexually harassed by her boss; the firm's jury consultant and master lie detector, Shae, joins the case.

[AnimeMania]

Yael Grobglas as Shae "Meerkat" Banfield

Chad Coe as Jeremy Brooks

Danielle Larracuente as Alejandra 'Alex' Ramos

[DanaK]

Good episode in several ways, especially Matty giving the closing. There clearly was some truth to her long ago harasser she mentioned to the jury. And it seems we got a tiny bit of movement on the coverup Matty is investigating

[NeenerNeener]

I've watched it twice and I still don't understand what p*ssed Matty off about that voice mail they listened to at the end of the episode.  

[Gregg247]

This episode faked me out!  I was convinced that Matlock's plan was falling apart with her mistake of spilling coffee on the laptop.  I loved the fact that she managed to simply steal the laptop and "accidently" destroy a duplicate laptop.  Now, she can go through the laptop with her grandson at her leisure. Great plan!

I really liked how she tricked the defendant into impeaching himself on the stand so she could introduce the evidence that the young male lawyer had uncovered.

I still don't like Matlock's boss.  She's a Hollywood writer's idea of what a "career-driven" woman is like.

How have we gone 3 episodes of "Matlock" without a single who-dun-it murder??? 

[DanaK]

21 minutes ago, NeenerNeener said:

I've watched it twice and I still don't understand what p*ssed Matty off about that voice mail they listened to at the end of the episode.  

It seems someone was speaking in code in a message to maybe their son about something and I guess Matty thought it had to do with the hidden drug documents. I thought it was Sr speaking to his son initially but the son’s name is Julian and the voice sounds like it was Olympia’s boyfriend so maybe she suspects that Olympia is the one involved

Edited October 25 by DanaK

[Silver-hyren]

22 minutes ago, DanaK said:

It seems someone was speaking in code in a message to maybe their son about something and I guess Matty thought it had to do with the hidden drug documents. I thought it was Sr speaking to his son initially but the son’s name is Julian and the voice sounds like it was Olympia’s boyfriend so maybe she suspects that Olympia is the one involved

I thought it was a voicemail from Olympia's father cheering her on before a big case.  Olympia used that same pep talk about giving them "not just hell" to Matty right before she took over trying the COTW.  The way Matty glared at the Conspiracy Board afterward, I assume (and assume Matty assumes as well) the case the voice on the recording was referring to was the one that buried the documents about opioids.

[Ellee]

Didn’t Olympia say that her father died recently?  I was thinking it was the last message she got from him or just being able to hear his voice again. 

[DanaK]

35 minutes ago, Silver-hyren said:

I thought it was a voicemail from Olympia's father cheering her on before a big case.  Olympia used that same pep talk about giving them "not just hell" to Matty right before she took over trying the COTW.  The way Matty glared at the Conspiracy Board afterward, I assume (and assume Matty assumes as well) the case the voice on the recording was referring to was the one that buried the documents about opioids.

That makes more sense that it was Olympia's dad to her. Possibly though Matty realized it was from her father and she glared at the board and said "We're not friends" to remind herself not to soften towards Olympia. But then, why would Olympia hide it? And what did the man call the person he was leaving a message for? I can't recall the name but it wasn't Olympia

Edited October 25 by DanaK

[Ellee]

@DanaK Possibly hiding it because it’s her personal pep talk from her dad for when she needs it.
 

I agree that the ‘We are not friends’ reference is Matty’s way of focusing on her reasons for doing all of this.  
 

I believe he called Olympia Oly. 

Edited October 25 by Ellee

[Silver-hyren]

8 minutes ago, DanaK said:

. But then, why would Olympia hide it? And what did the man call the person he was leaving a message for? I can't recall the name but it wasn't Olympia

I don't think she is hiding it.  I think @Ellee has it right - Olympia is holding onto a personal voicemail from her father so she can listen to his voice now that he's passed.  Would have to watch again, but pretty sure the message starts "Hey Baby Girl, it's dad."

[AnimeMania]

30 minutes ago, Ellee said:

I agree that the ‘We are not friends’ reference is Matty’s way of focusing on her reasons for doing all of this.  

"We are not friends" is what Olympia said to Matty right at the end of their celebration dance for winning the case. They seemed to be having a moment together, then Olympia squashed it hard.

[DearEvette]

I loved Matty's closing remarks. Very convincing.

I once again call foul on the show doing too much to elevate Matty a bit.  Do we really think jurors would be yawning visibly during the cross of the guy in the bombshell sex video? Wouldn't they have been very interested in hearing what he had to say regardless of the questioner? The questions were actually good questions.

 

1 hour ago, Gregg247 said:

I still don't like Matlock's boss.  She's a Hollywood writer's idea of what a "career-driven" woman is like.

I think the show has been really good about giving Olympia more layers than that.  She has been shown to be a social crusader since each of her cases have been more on the social justice side.  Her speech that she wants her daughter to have the freedom to be 'messy' reinforces this as well.   She has been shown to be a engaged parent. and is trying to navigate a shared parenthood with her estranged husband.

 And finally, this episode explicitly said outright that thing that all black people have to learn in work spaces: You have to be twice as good to be considered half as good as white folks or else be disparaged as a 'DEI hire'.  Olympia is aware that she has to present a certain level of professionalism where she would be judged more stringently than her white and male colleagues.  Her father's pep talk also mentions the 'twice as good' thing.

Which brings me to the last scene.  It was a personal voice mail ffrom her father who had died.  She never backed it up because possibly she does not want it on the company's servers because it is so personal.  And she listens to it for comfort.

My interpretation of Matty's look a the end is that she is aware of what it is and that she has stolen this precious thing from Olympia, so she has to steel herself and remind herself that they are not friends in order to tamp away any possible regret. It is 100% a reminder Matty is giving herself of what Olympia said earlier as further justification so she doesn't feel guilt.  It makes sense.  The more she works with these people it is going to get harder over time not to like them and 'see' them as people with their own issues, so she has to remind herself  that everything is for the end goal mantra. 

Also, I don't take what Olympia said about not being friends harshly.  Matty is an associate and her subordinate. They just came off of a trial where a boss crossed a line with a subordinate. Also it they are taking pains to drum it into our  heads that Olympia does not trust easily. It feels like there is some story there that they have yet to reveal.

I am glad she broke it off with Elijah. He is making my spidey senses tingle.

[babyrambo]

I thought this was the most interesting case so far, and really liked the actress that played the client, but the court scenes felt even more dramatized than usual. Especially the closing statement. As meaningful as Matty’s monologue was, the first half was just an anecdote and I kept waiting for someone to object? But I’m not a lawyer so maybe it tracks. And I really liked that the jury doubled the payment in the end. The client deserved that and more.

I also really liked Shae, the consultant they brought in, and thought Olympia had way more chemistry with her than she did with both the ex husband and now ex bf, but I also find both of those characters a bit bland right now so that could be it.

I also find the male junior associate a bit unbelievably precious at times & think the writers propping him up as the kind and insecure half of the duo, while continuing to make Sarah’s ambition out to be callous and grating, is getting a little stale. But given Sarah’s final conversation with Olympia they might be pulling back on that angle, or at least I hope so. 

Overall the writing mostly holds up or at least entertains, but it sometimes feels like the show doesn’t have a great grasp on the balance between the oblivious little old lady/shrewd shark when it comes to Matty at work. Complexity is one thing, but right now the flip flopping makes it hard to buy some of Matty’s decisions.

Edited October 25 by babyrambo

[dancingdreamer]

I really  loved Matty's  closing argument, I think  it was watching  Kathy Bates act, I've been waiting  to see this Kathy Bates. 

I too liked the fake out with the computer, they always  get me.  Matty speaking to Billy at the end felt real, the other intern drives me up the wall. 

[Daff]

1 hour ago, dancingdreamer said:

the other intern drives me up the wall.

…because there’s not a genuine thing about her. She wants to earn her chops as quickly as possible and is willing to do anything, evidenced by the exchange with her boss about the admissions of wrongdoing. 

2 hours ago, babyrambo said:

like the show doesn’t have a great grasp on the balance between  little old lady/strewed shark

While I believe a lot of that is an act to avoid suspicion, she’s still new and needs to tread lightly until she’s established at the firm.

[DanaK]

BTW, there's an interview with the showrunner that I posted in the Media thread about Matty's closing argument and the showrunner does confirm what Matty said about "Greg" was true, that there really was a "Greg" and the experience really did subvert her dreams, so she wasn't making it up (at least the gist of the story) like I initially suspected

[MissLucas]

I liked this a lot. On the surface level it was about Matty winning the case while still being on the -other- case. But the cracks are starting to show. She might be able to rationalize robbing Olympia of her father's voice message but sooner or later her trickery will hurt other people. And since she's really bonding with Billy he's a prime candidate.

Hopefully the meerkat will return, she was a good addition.

[DearEvette]

59 minutes ago, Daff said:

…because there’s not a genuine thing about her. She wants to earn her chops as quickly as possible and is willing to do anything, evidenced by the exchange with her boss about the admissions of wrongdoing. 

See now, I read Sarah a bit differently. And I quite like her deadpan humor.

Last episode we found out popular girls intimidate her and that she was an outsider in high school.  My take is that she is socially awkward and tries to create her self-worth in work and tries to compensate for her lack of social skills through work excellence. She wants approval and has a (wrong) idea of what it will take to gain Olympia's approval. Instead of just correcting what she is doing wrong, she keeps admitting what she is doing wrong unsolicited to Olympia in an effort to show that she is self aware. But as evidenced by Olympia's response, that is not what Olympia is looking for.  It was an obvious teaching moment for Sarah and opens the door to some character growth.

[DanaK]

I didn't realize until this episode that Matty had not been a trial lawyer

[Ellee]

8 minutes ago, DanaK said:

I didn't realize until this episode that Matty had not been a trial lawyer

How will she explain that to everyone?   Hasn’t it been implied that that was what she was to all?

[Elbaite 2.0]

 

6 hours ago, Gregg247 said:

 

I still don't like Matlock's boss.  She's a Hollywood writer's idea of what a "career-driven" woman is like.

 

Agreed! I've been in the workforce for 40 years and I've never met anyone like Olympia, male or female. I find her irritatingly over-the-top in her aloofness. Most corporate players don't get into power positions without the ability to fake being warm human beings. To be so obvious, alerts people to watch their backs around you.

[Wildcard]

A very vapid opinion. Kathy Bates looks great with her hair down.

[Nashville]

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

I didn't realize until this episode that Matty had not been a trial lawyer

 

54 minutes ago, Ellee said:

How will she explain that to everyone?   Hasn’t it been implied that that was what she was to all?

Lawyer, yes; trial lawyer, no - not that I’ve noticed, at least - and considering more than half the current crop of U.S. lawyers have never set foot in a courtroom as litigators, it’s not like it’s a game-exposing deal-breaker.  

[Silver-hyren]

This episode was better than last week's.  Kathy Bates is great but the writing is, often, not worthy of her talent.  Though I did like how they approached the generational divide this time.  It wasn't the humorous "older lady doesn't understand social media/young folks don't know what a commercial break is" but a really serious look at how perceptions of workplace harassment have changed.  Matty going from "well, it's just something we dealt with" to "maybe we shouldn't have had to" was a welcome bit of character development.  Seems to be a UO but I really like Olympia and loved the scene of her tearing into Mattie because I think she needed to be taken down several pegs.  The show seems to really want viewers to see Olympia as the villain, but I'm sorry, I don't (I see Matty as one, which is a different conversation). 

Last thought, does every episode need to end with a flashback?  At least it didn't replay scenes that just happened, but it's starting to seem like a crutch.

[Bastet]

5 hours ago, DearEvette said:

My interpretation of Matty's look a the end is that she is aware of what it is and that she has stolen this precious thing from Olympia, so she has to steel herself and remind herself that they are not friends in order to tamp away any possible regret.

Yes, when she heard the recording of Olympia's dad's pep talk, she was consumed by empathy for Olympia.  So she had to look back up to Olympia's face on the wall of suspects, and remind herself "We're not friends."  She was angry with herself, for getting swept up.

6 hours ago, Silver-hyren said:

I thought it was a voicemail from Olympia's father cheering her on before a big case.  Olympia used that same pep talk about giving them "not just hell" to Matty right before she took over trying the COTW.  The way Matty glared at the Conspiracy Board afterward, I assume (and assume Matty assumes as well) the case the voice on the recording was referring to was the one that buried the documents about opioids.

He was cheering her on when she was worried about "[her] test".  This may be a message she's held onto since she was getting ready to take the bar exam, and plays whenever she needs a pep talk, especially now that he's gone.

1 hour ago, DanaK said:

BTW, there's an interview with the showrunner that I posted in the Media thread about Matty's closing argument and the showrunner does confirm what Matty said about "Greg" was true, that there really was a "Greg" and the experience really did subvert her dreams, so she wasn't making it up (at least the gist of the story) like I initially suspected

Yeah, he was real - Matty and her husband talked about him.  She asked him if he remembered Greg Whatever, that bigwig at the firm, he did the "that guy" chuckle and said oh, yeah, she got pensive and said "Maybe he wasn't that funny" and then redirected the conversation.  Her comments to the jury about dismissing the experiences of today's women based on what women in her day were made to put up* with being wrong were genuine.  The entire trajectory of her career changed because the "solution" was for her to avoid him, which meant avoiding litigation.  She shouldn't have had to.  Alex, too, should have been able to keep doing the job she enjoyed and was good at.

*On that note, I loved when Olympia told her what she did or did not put up comes along with what she did or did not miss out on as a result.  "Which may or may not have contributed to the fact you had to go back to work at 75."  And that she wants a win for a "messy" plaintiff, because she wants her daughter living in a world where she can be messy and still not be sexually harassed at work.

4 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I too liked the fake out with the computer,

At least this time the flashback was to something we hadn't been shown previously, that she'd switched computers before she spilled the coffee.

5 hours ago, DearEvette said:

I am glad she broke it off with Elijah. He is making my spidey senses tingle.

I'm not sure how I feel about him, but I'm glad she finally realized something she'd realistically have known from the beginning -- if she's a woman who's divorced from one lawyer (in fact, the son of the firm's founding partner) now dating another lawyer in the firm, she is going to be the subject of gossip and gross assumptions that will overshadow her skills and all she brings to the firm.  Plus, it will make things awkward with her ex-husband, with whom she is salvaging a good working relationship and an improved co-parenting one.  "Big E" aint worth it, whether he's a good guy or not.

Edited October 25 by Bastet

[Boofish]

I want them to go back to Sarah calling Maddie old tv character names from the 80/90s. I quite enjoyed that episode 1.

I loooove Meekrat. Finally a real intellectual challenge for Maddie. Someone not buying her helpless old lady schtick.

Maddie was right about "we just avoided him." And this was not long ago. I worked for an engineering firm in 2009 and one of the girls on my team was harassed. I went and reported him on her behalf and he said "he was giving her fatherly advice; like Bill Cosby." I swear he used that reference and looking back on it now OY! And we were told just what Maddie was told "stay away from the guy." So I did the next best thing. He couldn't sneeze wrong without me pointing out his mistake. I noted every single thing he did wrong that was work related and he was eventually fired for incompetence. 🖕🏿you Kevin.

[schnauzergirl]

At this point, nothing to do with a plot line, but I want to know more about Maddie's husband.  Was he an attorney?  How did they get so rich? He's a cheerleader/comforter now and that's fine, but I'm wondering if he'll eventually play a more central role.

[Bastet]

4 minutes ago, schnauzergirl said:

At this point, nothing to do with a plot line, but I want to know more about Maddie's husband.  Was he an attorney? 

They seem to have worked at the same firm, because when she asked him if he remembered Greg Whatever, his familiarity is in line with someone who also worked there, not someone who just met her coworkers at parties.

[schnauzergirl]

36 minutes ago, Bastet said:

They seem to have worked at the same firm, because when she asked him if he remembered Greg Whatever, his familiarity is in line with someone who also worked there, not someone who just met her coworkers at parties.

I haven't watched last night's episode yet so will look for that.  Thanks!

[Thalia]

6 hours ago, DearEvette said:

I loved Matty's closing remarks. Very convincing.

I was licensed to practice law in 1985 and retired a few years ago.   Based on Kathy Bates' age, Matty was licensed in the early 70s.   In the 80s, I didn't have to face overt harassent, mostly because I chose to work in government.  But even in 1985, government was one of the few places where there was more or less parity between the sexes.   But even there the men could be so silly about things -- I remember when we got computers that some of the older men just about had fits because typing was women's work. 

I'm loving this show.   And even tho I'd seen earlier episodes where it looked like she was in trouble, only to see the reveal where Matlock orchestrates everything, I was surprised at the end. 

And not only was Maddy's closing argument great she also gave wonderful advice to her younger male colleague.   Although I am a little upset that they have three attorneys sharing an office.   But then, I've never worked for a silk stocking law firm. 

 

Edited October 25 by Thalia

[buckboard]

I thought the recording from Olympia's father was pretty clear:  She said he had recently died.  She hadn't sent it to the cloud because it was personal, not firm business.  Matty felt bad that Olympia thought her father's message was lost when Matty spilled the coffee on her laptop, because Matty realized she had the recording on her switched-out laptop.

[possibilities]

I was curious about the husband, too, but then I remembered that there are approzimately 20 gazillion shows about a man, where The Wife is just there as a support and comfort character, so I've decided I'm fine with The Husband being relegated to that role this time, to highlight how weird it is to have a character like that, with no personality or plot outside that role.

[shapeshifter]

6 hours ago, Bastet said:

He was cheering her on when she was worried about "[her] test".  This may be a message she's held onto since she was getting ready to take the bar exam, and plays whenever she needs a pep talk, especially now that he's gone.

I'm expecting that recording of Olivia's father to miraculously be the one bit that's retrieved from the fake laptop. 

 

6 hours ago, Bastet said:

I loved when Olympia told her what she did or did not put up comes along with what she did or did not miss out on as a result.  "Which may or may not have contributed to the fact you had to go back to work at 75." 

I felt seen. 

[HelloooKitty]

Who else’s brain kept calling “Shea”, “Petra”?

[andromeda331]

I love Matty's closing statement. Her opinion towards Alex because of generational differences felt real and realizing later that she did end up giving up everything. I loved Olympia telling her about wanting her daughter to be messy. I agree. Alex should be able to have a few drinks at work party and not worry about getting harrassed. I loved Matty getting Greg's juvie record. I'm glad if the jury gets to hear about Alex's sex tape, they should hear about Greg's record. 

[baldryanr]

11 hours ago, buckboard said:

I thought the recording from Olympia's father was pretty clear:  She said he had recently died.  She hadn't sent it to the cloud because it was personal, not firm business.  Matty felt bad that Olympia thought her father's message was lost when Matty spilled the coffee on her laptop, because Matty realized she had the recording on her switched-out laptop.

I suspect we'll see more of this as the series (or at least season) progresses.  It's easy to swear revenge and commit yourself to ruin someone when that person is just a picture on a wall.  It gets a lot harder when you realize said person might not be pure evil, or that a lot of innocent people might get taken down as collateral damage.

[Boofish]

21 minutes ago, baldryanr said:

I suspect we'll see more of this as the series (or at least season) progresses.  It's easy to swear revenge and commit yourself to ruin someone when that person is just a picture on a wall.  It gets a lot harder when you realize said person might not be pure evil, or that a lot of innocent people might get taken down as collateral damage.

Here's the thing. She hasn't proven anything about Olympia except she is smart and driven. I don't see anything outright "evil" about Olympia. I like that she puts Maddie in her place because everything she says is true. There are 3 pictures on Maddie's board yet she seems to have the hard on for Olympia. I haven't seen her do anything to advance towards the other two. I hope that changes because the audience is definitely being groomed into thinking Olympia is the bad one here.

[Ellee]

I thought in the beginning Matty said something about focusing about getting her foot in the door first and then focusing on her goals.  When it was indicated that the pharma was Julian’s area I thought Matty said something about wanting to work with him.  

I may be off base but I was thinking that all the flashbacks were designed to give us clues.

[Thalia]

8 hours ago, Boofish said:

There are 3 pictures on Maddie's board yet she seems to have the hard on for Olympia. I haven't seen her do anything to advance towards the other two. I hope that changes because the audience is definitely being groomed into thinking Olympia is the bad one here.

Yes, I've been thinking about this as well.  Are we going to spend six or eight or a season focusing on Olympia, just to clear her before moving on to Jason Ritter and Beau Bridges?  Because going one after the other seems a waste of, at least in these episodes, of Ritter and Bridges, both talented actors.  

ETA, I'm particularly looking forward to some meaty battles of wits between Bates and Bridges.  

Edited October 27 by Thalia

[possibilities]

I want to know what Jason Ritter's character did that his father was referring to when he said that's why he sides with Olympia sometimes. The two of them seem to have a friendly divorce, and not only because they work together. Both of them seem to be genuinely not hating each other. So what did Jason do wrong that Beau thinks makes him at times a nogoodnik? Was it related to the marriage, or the business? I think they've been trying to hint at him being the bad guy, more than Olympia. I'm also convinced everything they do is a misdirect, and they aren't trying to make it obvious for us. My gut feeling is that so far the show does not want us to actually know where they are headed.

[AnimeMania]

1 hour ago, possibilities said:

So what did Jason do wrong that Beau thinks makes him at times a nogoodnik? Was it related to the marriage, or the business?

I thought Beau was implying that what Jason did, brought an end to the marriage. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

16 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm expecting that recording of Olivia's father to miraculously be the one bit that's retrieved from the fake laptop

Nope. IT dude told them it was fried after it was given to him to see if they could retrieve anything.

[AnimeMania]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

17 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm expecting that recording of Olivia's father to miraculously be the one bit that's retrieved from the fake laptop

Nope. IT dude told them it was fried after it was given to him to see if they could retrieve anything.

Even if the computer's internal circuits might be fried, the storage device might still be salvageable. There is no reason that Matty couldn't take Olivia's broken computer home to her grandson and he could take the storage device out and put it into another laptop and give it back to Olivia. This would be the best way to get back in Olivia's good graces.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, AnimeMania said:

Even if the computer's internal circuits might be fried, the storage device might still be salvageable. There is no reason that Matty couldn't take Olivia's broken computer home to her grandson and he could take the storage device out and put it into another laptop and give it back to Olivia. This would be the best way to get back in Olivia's good graces.

Wouldn’t the IT guy have said so? Anyway, what you’ve posted just sounds over complicated. Musical laptops? I hope not.

[preeya]

I don't know what the issue of the father's quote on the "stolen" laptop means, but Olympia used the exact same quote when she was giving the pep talk regarding the trial. This is what the subtitles displayed at approximately the 27 minute mark of the episode.

Olympia speaking said:

00:27:08,131 --> 00:27:11,334
“And tomorrow don't just give 'em hell, give them the damn heavens, limbo, and everything in between. Because Alex deserves a win.”

The exact quote [without the Alex reference] that Matty and the kid heard from the laptop file.

Edited October 26 by preeya

[chitowngirl]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Nope. IT dude told them it was fried after it was given to him to see if they could retrieve anything.

The IT guy didn’t find anything because there was nothing to find. He never had Olympia’s computer, he had the fake “empty” computer.

[shapeshifter]

7 hours ago, possibilities said:

So what did Jason do wrong that Beau thinks makes him at times a nogoodnik?

I'm guessing he cheated.
Ooo. And now that I've typed that, I'm wondering Jason may be paying off Big E to seduce Olivia for reasons of financial settlements/fault in the divorce.

 

 

19 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm expecting that recording of Olivia's father to miraculously be the one bit that's retrieved from the fake laptop

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Nope. IT dude told them it was fried after it was given to him to see if they could retrieve anything.

12 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

The IT guy didn’t find anything because there was nothing to find. He never had Olympia’s computer, he had the fake “empty” computer.

Right and right. 
I was imagining that Mattie's grandson would somehow remotely place the file on the replacement computer — ostensibly because Mattie thought it was the humane thing to do — and it might somehow get Mattie's espionage discovered.
If so, it could be interesting if Olivia tells Mattie she *KNOWS* about her espionage and is against it for many reasons, but also hopes Mattie's team wins.

 

Edited October 26 by shapeshifter

[preeya]

38 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I was imagining that Mattie's grandson would somehow remotely place the file on the replacement computer

There's no way that could happen. The computer's internals were destroyed when she purposely spilled the coffee on it, and who knows how it was even setup before the spillage. The IT person said it was fried, so there would be no way to remotely communicate with it.

[Irlandesa]

2 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

And now that I've typed that, I'm wondering Jason may be paying off Big E to seduce Olivia for reasons of financial settlements/fault in the divorce.

It sounds like they had already hashed out the particulars of the divorce but are just waiting for it to be finalized.  That's why Olympia keeps talking about waiting until November to announce her relationship with E because the divorce will be finalized by then.  

On 10/25/2024 at 11:21 AM, babyrambo said:

I also really liked Shae, the consultant they brought in, and thought Olympia had way more chemistry with her than she did with both the ex husband and now ex bf, but I also find both of those characters a bit bland right now so that could be it.

They really did have chemistry.  E and her husband are a bit bland but they've both been underwritten or underdeveloped. I sort of get it when it comes to E because he's not a regular but I'm a little surprised that Olympia's other associates have a bit more development.  Maybe that will change and Matty will look into the ex and his dad a bit more which will develop their characters.

19 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

I love Matty's closing statement. Her opinion towards Alex because of generational differences felt real and realizing later that she did end up giving up everything. I loved Olympia telling her about wanting her daughter to be messy. I agree. Alex should be able to have a few drinks at work party and not worry about getting harrassed.

One thing that I've liked about this show so far is that they do let Matty have generational differences in points of view.  It's not that everyone her age thought the same way about how to deal with harassers.  Many women were fighting for better conditions back then but most dealt with it the way Matty did.  Even many women today deal with it in that way because avoidance is still less risky career-wise. 

She's doing so much fakery but those outbursts feel real and truly held beliefs.  It keeps her from being the perfect Mary Sue for me and I love it.  One thing I wish they would have pointed out is that people wondered why Alex weren't more careful at the party but no one wondered why a guy already convicted of one sexual assault didn't let himself lose control.  He's the one who has demonstrated he can't handle himself on alcohol.