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If I were this group I wouldn’t want to get rid of people who are strong enough to help others if needed or people that can read maps or have climbing experience. I did understand them getting rid of Sweta. Her constant talk about how she was so much smarter than everyone else was annoying.

I do wonder how involved the producers are in this. It seemed like someone was there at checkpoint telling people when to leave because they were all standing around for quite awhile. Then the bridge crossing took a long time and it seems like they were required to do everything so slow for the sake of TV. 

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It is pretty obvious that the King of the Mountain (or whatever) intends that there be as many sacrifices as possible, thereby reducing the overall prize money to be paid at the end. Apart from that:

There is an elimination at each checkpoint where someone is sent home and their cash is split between the remaining climbers. So it is advantageous for everyone to get to the checkpoint because if you have to make a bivy camp, you don't get to eliminate anyone and split their cash. You also miss a good meal and a good night's rest and the next day you have a longer hike to the next checkpoint.

If there are weaker climbers, the stronger climbers will be forced to help them to reach the next checkpoint so as to avoid the drawbacks of missing, and having to make a bivy camp. So why would you want to eliminate strong climbers? They are who will be forced to help you should, you ever need help!

Once you reach the checkpoint, you can eat, belch and vote off the climber most likely to prevent you from making it to the next checkpoint. This would likely be someone who has shown themselves to be a slower climber or in some way "weaker" generally. 

The whole idea of someone being a "threat" makes no sense, unless by "threat" you mean someone who will delay the climb to the next checkpoint. Since all climbers must attain their goals as a group, the concept of an alliance seems equally pointless.

Crossing the bridge took waaay too long, not only from a television entertainment perspective, but from the point of view of needing to complete the day's climb in time.

The first to cross (Geoff) should have called #2 (Dusty) and told him to pick #3. Geoff should have waited until after Dusty picked #3 (Nick) before explaining about the last climber and the axe. Similarly, Dusty should have told Nick to choose #4 and only divulged about the axe after #4 (Theron) had been picked and was on their way over the bridge. And so on. As it was, each pick took ages with long discussion about who would be the final climber and whether they deserved the axe or not.

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4 hours ago, KeithJ said:

But the issue is that when the mountain keep forces them to get rid of people, they lose that person's money.

There never was a real million dollar prize.  It had nothing to do with a player being pulled for medical reasons mid-leg like the first episode.  Or a choice on that first episode to cut or keep a player at that first bridge.

The "mountain keeper" will make sure the pot will never be that great.  This time there was no choice but to get rid of a player mid-leg and thereby lose their money. 

I imagine production aka "the mountain keeper" aka a stupid helicopter with silly instructions will be used to take more and more money away as the show progresses if the ineptness of the players isn't as great at getting rid of the prize money total that the producers want.

So far the players remaining only have the two vote outs' money divided among themselves.  The other two out (medical and production-forced) had their loot lost.  My guess is the prize money would never be more than a half million max from the get go.  And will be probably less.

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1 hour ago, Skooma said:

My guess is the prize money would never be more than a half million max from the get go.  And will be probably less.

As more people get eliminated at a checkpoint and their cash redistributed, the more the next mid-episode elimination will subtract from the prize. I don't know how many episodes remain, but we've lost two climbers and one lot of prize money each episode so far. At that rate, by the end of episode #5, the total prize would be down to $718,191.96 with 6 climbers remaining. 

On 10/10/2024 at 11:13 AM, Tango64 said:

gree they spend way too much time on the bridge crossings. It's not that dramatic because it suffers from the same thing as the "scary" tasks in The Amazing Race: the CBS legal department will not let anyone die. It's all way over engineered for safety, there are experts on site to oversee and doublecheck everything (edited out in this show), and contestants quickly learn that the worst outcome is dangling in an uncomfortable harness for a few minutes. Even the most scaredy cat contestants seem fine with it all by the second episode.

I was pretty enthused about this fresh new show where no one knows how to scheme and work the game, but it seems they quickly figured out how to apply what they know from Survivor, Big Brother, etc. I hope it's not just going to be a repeat of that in a more mountainous setting.

Plus, the first episode made it look like they were going to endure some real hardship along the way. But those were some massive, luxurious feasts at camp! Getting there is hard, sure, but those feast scenes undercut the struggle that I thought was central to this whole game.

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Yep, but it's a bit different, as far as the $$$ goes

I can't believe the producers were happy to lose Swetka in episode 2..taking out their primary villian and only female eye candy.

The helicopter menacing Geoff looked to me like the most dangerous thing I have ever seen on a reality TV show. I was getting Vic Morrow/Twilight Zone flashbacks. The could have gone south in so many ways.

How much time does the USAF give someone off that Pumkin has time to go jetting off to New Zealand to be on the show?

LOL editing it to look like Bo fell to his death instead of dangling like a spent yo/yo. Also LOL at the gratuitous bikini shots in what appeared to be a very cold climate.

I don't understand why you would WANT to vote out a leader. A leader might be the only thing to get you to the summit on time and not go home with lent in your pocket.

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12 hours ago, North of Eden said:

I can't believe the producers were happy to lose Swetka in episode 2..taking out their primary villian and only female eye candy.

The helicopter menacing Geoff looked to me like the most dangerous thing I have ever seen on a reality TV show. I was getting Vic Morrow/Twilight Zone flashbacks. The could have gone south in so many ways.

How much time does the USAF give someone off that Pumkin has time to go jetting off to New Zealand to be on the show?

LOL editing it to look like Bo fell to his death instead of dangling like a spent yo/yo. Also LOL at the gratuitous bikini shots in what appeared to be a very cold climate.

I don't understand why you would WANT to vote out a leader. A leader might be the only thing to get you to the summit on time and not go home with lent in your pocket.

I was freaked out by the helicopter circling around him on the bridge, too! The bridge itself scared me enough without that.

I'm entirely too nice of a person to be on a show like this. I'd have dropped out before I cut the rope to the bridge. I'm not sure I could have called Bo over, either. Granted, my fear of heights would have led me to drop out at the bridge in the first episode, so it wouldn't have mattered!

Also confused as to why someone would want to vote out a leader here. On something like Survivor, it makes sense. But here, they need people to help them get to the summit and keep them motivated.

I also don't like how they do the votes, with it being public. It makes people want to go along with the group to avoid having a target on their back if they were the only one who didn't vote with the majority.

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Were we supposed to think that Bo was falling to his death?  How ridiculous.

Pumpkin:  if you want to be taken seriously in life, don't go by a silly childhood nickname!  (If it's Punkin, that's worse)

Glad to see some of them had picked up walking sticks along the way.

Nobody brought up Dennis dropping two boards crossing the bridge?  Could have fueled his elimination with that.

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21 hours ago, North of Eden said:

I can't believe the producers were happy to lose Swetka in episode 2..taking out their primary villian and only female eye candy.

The primary villain from 5 minutes into the show has been Dennis.  She was only the second tier villain compared to him.

OT:  And he is just a pussy cat compared to a real life expedition villain.  I just binged watched "Expedition from Hell" on Discovery today which is a real documentary and not a reality show.  Man the leader there makes Dennis look like a little angel in comparison.  More than worth the watch.

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I grudgingly watched the first episode (because I'd rather be watching TAR) and didn't care for it.  But reading the posts here, so many people liked it that I thought maybe I had missed something and should give it another try.  And I still don't care for it. 

These people are trying to play Survivor and Big Brother, and that's not the game.  It seems so obvious to me, sitting here on my couch.  Get as many people as possible to the summit.  At each checkpoint, cut the weakest link.  You don't need alliances, you don't need villains. These folks are really over-thinking this, and I already hope that nobody makes it to the top. 

I'll keep watching, I guess, because it's on after Survivor and the scenery is pretty, but it's not attention-grabbing. 

BTW, on the rope bridge (which I agree took forever), I'm surprised no one else did what Punkin did, although she may not have done it intentionally.  The planks they were carrying had little shims on either side, and she put it on the top ropes.  When you do that, you stabilize the whole structure. 

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Now that Geoff and Punkin and several other people are onto Dennis and his Machiavellian deviousness, let's hope he's ousted sooner rather than later. I don't understand the need for alliances and plotting and whatever. It's like someone said upthread, vote out the slowest person. But, on the other hand, it was a delight to see "the smartest person in the group with sky-high SAT scores (what the actual fuck???) kicked out because the dummies could see she is a poseur. That made me happy. And should be a warning to Dennis!

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1 minute ago, Red Bridey said:

it was a delight to see "the smartest person in the group with sky-high SAT scores (what the actual fuck???) kicked out because the dummies could see she is a poseur.

Yes!  WTF was her claim? Something about scoring in the top 25% of the top 1% of all SAT test takers on her first try. Ok, but you obviously can't read a room.

I like the premise of the show but already disliking so many in the cast doesn't bode well. I also find the uber dramatic host and "Mountain Keeper" a bit cringeworthy. 

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1 hour ago, snarts said:

Yes!  WTF was her claim? Something about scoring in the top 25% of the top 1% of all SAT test takers on her first try. Ok, but you obviously can't read a room.

I like the premise of the show but already disliking so many in the cast doesn't bode well. I also find the uber dramatic host and "Mountain Keeper" a bit cringeworthy. 

Don’t forget, she’s the brains behind the operation of the global tech company she works for…..

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2 hours ago, snarts said:

Yes!  WTF was her claim? Something about scoring in the top 25% of the top 1% of all SAT test takers on her first try. Ok, but you obviously can't read a room.

I like the premise of the show but already disliking so many in the cast doesn't bode well. I also find the uber dramatic host and "Mountain Keeper" a bit cringeworthy. 

I took the SAT's a long, long time ago but don't seem to recall any questions about hiking, climbing, working on physical tasks as a group. I also missed the part where we were tested on physical fitness, endurance, etc.  Anyone who thinks their SAT scores are indicative of any special life skills other than their ability to take standardized testing is, by definition, not nearly as smart as they think.

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4 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

These people are trying to play Survivor and Big Brother, and that's not the game.  It seems so obvious to me, sitting here on my couch.  Get as many people as possible to the summit.  At each checkpoint, cut the weakest link.  You don't need alliances, you don't need villains. These folks are really over-thinking this....

100%!  They don't know what they're doing.

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19 hours ago, Notabug said:

I took the SAT's a long, long time ago but don't seem to recall any questions about hiking, climbing, working on physical tasks as a group. I also missed the part where we were tested on physical fitness, endurance, etc.  Anyone who thinks their SAT scores are indicative of any special life skills other than their ability to take standardized testing is, by definition, not nearly as smart as they think.

I did quite well on my SATs (granted, that was about 30 years ago--I doubt I'd do too well on them now!). I would be awful at this show, for many reasons.

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I watched the first couple of episodes on Paramount because why not, Big Brother is over and I have a reality slot open. I wasn’t expecting much and after watching, … I’m still not expecting much. But I’ll probably keep watching.

The problem for me is, I’m not sure what this show wants to be. Is it a celebration of teamwork and collaboration? Is it a high stakes survivalist challenge where one false move can send you plummeting to your “death” (or at least leave you dangling for a melodramatic second or two)? Is it a game of mystical forces overseen by an avenging mountain god (in a chopper)?

I’m not sure the contestants know what the game is, either, and that’s not necessarily a good thing. It can be fun to watch players figure it out, like on the first season of Survivor, but in this case nobody is approaching this as a clean slate. They’re bringing the baggage of every other competition show (including Survivor) and playing accordingly. So we have people making alliances and looking for “threats”, when they don’t even know what that means in this context.

Casting has done the usual Reality Casting thing, which means a handful of alpha bros, some decent eye candy, a few nice “old” people to awww over,  some standard villain types who are willing to do “whatever it takes”, a few rootable “real” people, and a lot of filler to round it out. I do believe that these people had no idea what they were signing up for, because they seemed genuinely surprised when they first learned their mission.

I think this could be a decent show if production interference were kept to a minimum, but we already have indications that that won’t be the case. I expect more manufactured drama and more twists that might not make a lot of sense. But if they can keep it entertaining, I’ll keep watching. Especially since they already did me the favor of excising Shweta Balls. They could really win me over by eliminating Half-Baked Generic Villain Dennis, but I’m not holding my breath. They’ve already devoted too much airtime to his crafty evilness, so comeuppance will surely be delayed.

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10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I think this could be a decent show if production interference were kept to a minimum, but we already have indications that that won’t be the case.

They need to whittle down the final prize money they have to pay by having as many mid-climb eliminations (medical, the axe, whatever) as possible. I suspect  this type of production interference will continue, at least once per climb.

Climbers on the other hand, need to avoid bivy camps so they can eliminate/rob more people at checkpoints. They don't seem to grasp that if the last climber fails to make camp, they all fail to make camp. So there is no point forming an alliance against other climbers. They need to be as cohesive as possible to get even the weakest to the checkpoint, and avoid the necessity of forming a bivy camp.

Once at the checkpoint, they have to eliminate/rob a climber. But why would you need an alliance at that point? The obvious choice for elimination is the weakest climber who needed the most help to make it to the checkpoint. If you form an alliance to save that climber, you must eliminate a stronger climber instead. You are only making it harder for everyone including yourself to get to the next checkpoint. So what would be the point of forming an alliance to do this?

What would be the ultimate end-goal here? To be the only climber in the final episode, and therefore the sole person to reach the summit carrying all the prize money,  which you keep for yourself because there is nobody to share it with. But when the field is reduced to two, how do you propose to eliminate/rob the other guy? Appeal to The Jury? Resort to a fire-lighting challenge? If the show goes there, it will make a farce of itself.

And if two (or more) climbers embark on the final climb to the summit, each will be carrying their own share of the prize. If one or more are eliminated along the way, their share of the prize will be eliminated with them. And if everyone doesn't make the summit, nobody makes the summit and nobody gets any prize money. So once again, it makes no sense being in an alliance against anyone or working against them in any way, because their success is just as important to your prize money as your own success. 

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Three episodes in and I’m almost at the point where I hope nobody reaches the summit.  They keep talking about being behind pace and picking up the pace and then they vote off the people that can actually keep up with the pace.  There wasn’t even a single conversation about voting off the slow people.  They all think they’re playing Survivor for some reason.

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These Einsteins really don't understand the rules of this game.

At this point, I hope they vote off all the strong climbers and end up with nothing, but I don't think the producers will let that happen.

Beckylee has become more annoying than the Korean Cockroach and his phony tears.  

Had they taken the food, would they be just that much further behind, waiting for Amy and Pati, maybe not making the next checkpoint?

Killer ladder, Yikes! Props to Amy for pulling it off.  Strange wedding story.

They all get a rest while the slow players crawl up, but overall, it really doesn't matter.

Stupid, stupid people voting off Geoff.  I hope Pati, Jenneye and Becklylee drag ya'all down a black hole to no money,

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The scenery is excellent.  That is it.  The game is stupid.  And Dennis is the villain that everyone is waiting to see him get his comeuppance.  I don't know if I can wait that long though.

Why are these idiots playing Survivor?  It is so totally illogical there are no words.  Especially since most of the time on Survivor there is a push to keep the strong members on a tribe until the merge.  Total morons are on this show.

And "the ladder" was more boring the the two bridges.  And they were boring.  My opinion is they should not renew this show for a new season.  Period. 

And to think they put this lame show on instead of an extra season of The Amazing Race?  Grrrr!

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I assume production is making them do things like taking so long to climb the ladder. As soon as one person reaches the top, another should have been on the ladder. They are constantly running late but taking their sweet time on bridges/ladders. There was no reason to eliminate Geoff. Do they really not understand that more fit people can carry packs and equipment and help pull people up? At this point they should just draw names for elimination.

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No…No… not Geoff!  Well, unless Geoff wanted to leave.  I guess I could understand that.

I’m a Big Brother watcher.  If I remember correctly the first season wasn’t the most exciting.  Either that or Season 2 was that much better. So people don’t leave just yet.  Allow everybody a learning curve.  Producers and contestants.  
 

And, yes, I realize how stupid that sounds when this group’s philosophy seems to be get rid of the people that can get us to the top and to the money. 
 

I’ve found that the forums are really more important than the show. 

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I'm about done watching these dumb people make stupid decisions.  I guess the reason that Geoff got voted off was because he didn't want to give up eating to let the two slowpokes take the helicopter?  It was poor logic on his part since they were not on track to make the checkpoint and probably going to fall farther behind if they had to drag the albatrosses up the mountain; so they weren't getting fed anyway.  I really liked Geoff though, in general.  Good attitude, willing to help and in great condition.

I have no idea why that one chick thinks she is masterminding the voting let alone how she thinks she can step back and let someone else do it for a week and then return to the lead.  Also, if it was my doing that somehow got people to continue to vote for strong players to leave; I sure wouldn't be bragging about it.  She can be the next one voted off, she's dead weight anyway.

I realize they're probably stressed physically and mentally; but if someone doesn't get a grip and figure out how to play strategically, none of them are reaching the summit.  I expect the Mountain Master or whoever will have to intervene to make sure at least one person gets to the top and earns some money.

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1 minute ago, Johannah said:

Haven't seen the last episode. They voted off Geoff?  You're all right.  They are all idiots.  Good, I guess.  My other shows are starting, football is here and I can stop recording this one.  I don't have the time to waste...

I'll try to remember to check back in a month so you all can tell me what happened...  If anyone is still watching.

Yep.  While climbing, they were told that they were going too slow to reach the checkpoint that day.  They could either proceed as planned or they could choose to send two people ahead by helicopter.  But, if they did that, nobody would get food at the checkpoint.  Geoff and Punkin were the only 2 who voted to continue on as is, everyone else wanted to let 2 go ahead.  At that point, it seemed the others seemed to feel Geoff had betrayed the slow ones or something and the tide turned against him.  I think Geoff's vote was wrong in that he wasn't guaranteed food in the first place, but it wasn't anything personal.

One of the problems with the show is that, aside from the fact that none of these people knew which show they were joining nor what would be required, is that the slow ones serve no real purpose.  Even on Survivor, anyone can hunt for an idol or do a puzzle, even the least athletic people.  Amazing race has a mixed bag of challenges, too. There also is a reason to strategize and maybe keep a less physically fit person in the game.  On this show, there is no way to compensate if not young and athletic.  Now that the first season has aired, I expect, if it is renewed, the competitors will have figured out that really the only way to improve their chances is to get rid of the dead wood ASAP and the suspense will be gone.

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I tried to watch this, but I really don't like the Survivor-esque element of voting people off.

On 10/1/2024 at 9:53 AM, snarts said:

The trek seem daunting enough cause a lot of attrition.

Exactly.

For me, this should've been about the challenge of climbing that peak, not all the game-playing.  It isn't what I want to watch (or I'd be watching Survivor), so I'm outta here.

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I watched the entire episode feeling frustrated as I could not understand in any way the logic of most of the contestants.  As a rational being I could not really enjoy this episode as most of it did not make any sense whatsoever.  How is voting off a strong climber who actually helps others going to help people make it to the summit?  I can see voting Dennis off as all he does is sow discord, but not Geoff.  I imagine that they will target Dusty and Robert next as they seem competent and I think the 'alliance' wants to replace competency with incompetency.  At least Amy and Punkin knew that voting off Geoff was idiotic.

So, not sure if I will finish the season, but, I really, really, really hope that if Dennis and his followers continue to target the competent contestants that NOBODY makes it to the summit.  I'm sure that's not what the producers want, but it would be an amazing first in reality competition shows for nobody to win.  Then, they could add the remaining money to the next season's purse (if there is a next season) and that would really be a prize worth going for.

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I think this show would be better if they had to make it to camp every night.  Everyone that  makes it stays in the game.  The ones that don't, leave the game and their money goes with them.  It would make the players have to decide if they want to help the slower players to keep their money in the game.  Nobody would be voting anyone off.  This is what I thought the game was going to be.   

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52 minutes ago, LakeGal said:

I think this show would be better if they had to make it to camp every night.  Everyone that  makes it stays in the game.  The ones that don't, leave the game and their money goes with them.  It would make the players have to decide if they want to help the slower players to keep their money in the game.  Nobody would be voting anyone off.  This is what I thought the game was going to be.   

I suggest you watch Race to Survive: Alaska and Race to Survive: New Zealand.  You pretty much described that show.  For all its faults - and it does have many - it's a far superior show.

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20 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

I'm out.  This is simply not a show I want to watch.  It could be beautiful, inspiring and up-lifting, instead it is ugly and mean-spirited.  Previously, I said the climbers weren't playing the game properly.  But after tonight, I think they're playing exactly the game the producers want them to play.

And I hate the host. 

1000% concur.  The host is a snooze and the show is a snooze except for Snidely Whiplash Dennis who is actually creepy in his turn-on-the-very-real-seeming tears and his proud-to-be evil machinations behind the scenes.  I.am.out.

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I actually find part of the show hilarious-everytime they bring out the helicopter that is supposed to represent the Mountain (or master of the mountain or something else).  They try to sell it as this mysterious, all-knowing, mythical creature but instead it's kind of hilarious.  Why was it hovering near to the last climber?  What is it going to do if they don't 'respect' the mountain?  Will it convince them to speed up?

 

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1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

I actually find part of the show hilarious-everytime they bring out the helicopter that is supposed to represent the Mountain (or master of the mountain or something else).  They try to sell it as this mysterious, all-knowing, mythical creature but instead it's kind of hilarious. 

 

Hilarious, idiotic and exceedingly cringe. 

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I'm out, too. I'm not interested in watching mean people prevail by convincing their minions to vote off the outcasts one by one. Punkin will undoubtedly be next, since she was Geoff's close ally, then Robert and Dusty. It seems Beckylee wants to keep Amy and Pati around for some reason, so I suppose they're safe until they literally collapse and the helicopter of doom carts them away.

This show is not what I thought it would be. The premise sounded interesting and different, but it's more like Lord of the Flies meets Big Brother. Hard pass.

Like others have said above, here's hoping no one wins!

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16 hours ago, Ellee said:

I’m a Big Brother watcher.  If I remember correctly the first season wasn’t the most exciting.  Either that or Season 2 was that much better. So people don’t leave just yet.  Allow everybody a learning curve.  Producers and contestants.

Season 1 was my favorite season of Big Brother.  The audience got to nominate 2 people and the houseguests then voted one out.  All the Dennis-like douchbags were out early and it was a fun show with Chicken George and company.  One young guy, Curtis, ended up as a judge on the second highest court (appellate maybe??) in California.  Cool, fun and interesting people and not idiots.

11 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

Then, they could add the remaining money to the next season's purse (if there is a next season) and that would really be a prize worth going for.

No way this show will be renewed.  It is a total crapfest. 

The host is terrible.  The "mountain keeper" modern day helicopter who buzzes people is totally lame.  And trying to play Big Brother on a mountain is the stupidest thing I have ever seen on TV.

A total trainwreck.

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Ha! At this rate, there should be two people commenting on the final episode. Which, let’s be honest, is about two more people than this show deserves.

I found the first couple of episodes entertaining in a cheesy, game show wannabe kind of way. This one was just boring. I’m sure that rope ladder was scary and hard, did we have to watch EVERY SINGLE PLAYER cry about how scary and hard it was? It went on so long, I was hoping the axe would make a comeback.

I think what the “strategists” are doing with the vote is positioning themselves to be the strongest ones left. If they are mid level now, they will eventually become the slowest once the actual slow ones get picked off, and therefore become vulnerable. But if they eliminate everyone stronger than themselves, their ultimate position is more secure, because the weaker ones will always need some strong people to help them. This is just a guess. It still seems too soon to make such moves, but it explains why Becky is so intent on keeping the slower people around. 

What is this Mountain Keeper supposed to be, anyway? A protective supernatural force, or just a cranky park ranger? Because I don’t know why the former would need a black helicopter to get around, and the latter shouldn’t have time for these shenanigans. It’s the dumbest part of an increasingly dumb show, and they’re not even trying to make it interesting. It’s like someone watched an episode of Deal or No Deal Island, said “let’s have an unseen entity screw with our contestants, too!”, but got no further in the creative process. Must like the rest of the show. It’s a pastiche with no purpose.

Stiff Aussie host should be embarrassed to be a part of this. But even if he were… could anyone tell?

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