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TUESDAY, MAY 21, 10:00-11:00 p.m. EDT (Series Finale)

As the doctors consider their futures, they work together to solve one of the most important cases of their careers.

 

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The end was beautifully done, I’m crying. Happy that Shaun has his family and becomes chief of surgery. Happy for the other doctors too. Sad about Glassman but realistic-not everyone can be saved. Wish we had another season ! 

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Okay, yeah, that ending got me. Especially seeing Steve as an older kid. Lea's line about "saying goodbye to your father" also hit me. 

I liked the "Ten years later" flashback, it was nice to see what became of everyone and where they ended up. I LOVE that Shaun and Claire work together on that foundation named after Glassman, I really appreciated the way the show acknowledged their history together and their friendship. Shaun sleeping in her room all night keeping watch was touching, and I loved the lengths he went to to help save her. She's always been there for him when he needed it, so it was nice to see him get to be there for her in such a significant way. 

And I'm glad Claire and Jared were able to reconnect and wind up together, too. And Lim helping out in other parts of the world, and Charlie moving up in her career...just...yay for everyone finding their own personal and/or professional happiness. 

But oh, Shaun, struggling to acknowledge losing Glassman. I don't blame him for having difficulty with that, nor do I blame Glassman for not wanting to deal with more trials and more experimental treatments that would only delay the inevitable. I'm glad they were able to make peace and enjoy their remaining time together as they did, and the foundation and Shaun's speech were a great way to honor him. I could totally imagine Glassman both being embarrassed at all the praise and tribute and also appreciating it all at the same time :D.

I'm sad to see this show go, having watched it from the beginning, and I wish they'd had a full season to properly wrap things up the way I imagine they would've liked. But I am glad they did get enough of a heads up to still give a good, satisfying finale. It's been an enjoyable seven seasons, and I look forward to seeing what these actors will go on to do next :). And I've enjoyed talking with all you fellow posters about the show here, too, and hope to see you around the boards with any other shows we may share in common.  

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Haven't watched the finale yet, only read about it, but based on the recap the Shaun/Glassman ending gave me House/Wilson vibes at the end of House. 

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31 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Haven't watched the finale yet, only read about it, but based on the recap the Shaun/Glassman ending gave me House/Wilson vibes at the end of House. 

I have not seen how that show ended, but I've heard a bit about it, and eh, I could see the similarity. Course, given both shows were created by the same guy, it wouldn't surprise me if there were any notable similiarities in that way :D. 

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The finale wasn't horrible. The show ended like it started: a bad portrayal of autism. They also cranked the inspiration porn up to 11 for those final five minutes.

I'm happy that they didn't have/let Shaun bulldoze over Glassman's (good) quality over quantity of life decision.

I wish we had gotten a full season, since I want to see what they would've done with a full season of Kayla Cromer - since that storyline went at lightspeed, then she was put to the wayside. However, less time means the writers didn't get to milk Glassman's cancer and show his final days in a misery porn montage.

For half a second there, I was thinking it was going to be Shaun speaking to accept a Nobel Prize in Medicine... it was better (and sort of funny) that it was "just" a TED Talk. 

I laughed when Kayla Cromer's character said something to Shaun like, "Of course it's the bacteriophage, why else would I say I found it?"

This final season was rushed as hell, they should've dropped some plots (or some patients) to make it feel less cramped, but it definitely had better finales than its contemporaries (The Resident and New Amsterdam).

Hope to see all of you guys when discussing another show, always fun. Especially if we can find a show to hate watch!

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David Shore:  "Good news, Antonia!  We decided that Claire will actually live and get a happy ending with Jared!"

Antonia Thomas:  "Awesome!  Wasn't expecting that!"

David Shore:  "Yep!  And all it will take is Claire losing her arm!"

Antonia Thomas:  "Sigh... of course.  Really, it's on me for not seeing that coming..."

 

Overall, a good, if predictable finale, but one that fits in line with this show, its characters, and this universe.  In the end, there was no last minute save for Glassman, and the episode was mainly more about Shaun having to come to terms with it and realize that his attempts at "helping", were actually making things worse for their relationship.  I'm glad he was able to see that before it was too late (thanks to an assist from Lea), and, and Glassman was able to have six good months of being in their lives and being able to do the things they never got around to.  And, hey, he even left the hospital in style by basically getting himself fired by giving a middle finger to the FDA and treating Claire with a method they apparently disapproved for reasons I'm still unsure of.  Classic Glassman!

The "ten years later" method to showing how everyone turns out is a tried and trued method in television, but I'm glad everyone seems to be doing well.  Lim ended up not staying in San Jose, but she didn't take the other initial job but instead will be working overseas: including Ukraine.  Both Charlie and Dom seem to have found their respected places in the medical world, Jordan reunites with Daniel after-all (easy gig for Brandon Larracuente, since he didn't even have any lines!), and Park and Reznick seem to be a happy family: complete with adopting Baby Eden!  Also glad that see saw Jerome again and he seems to be in a better place.  And despite losing her arm, Claire is still finding ways to help people and has a great life (and child!) with Jared!

And then there is Shaun.  Not only the Chief Surgeon, but his family now has two kids, is still in contact with his friends, and respected enough to have his own Ted Talk.  Oh, and he has two televisions now because he's a big spender like that!  Not too bad for someone many thought would wash out on his first week; hell, day; as a resident.

Fare thee well, The Good Doctor!  I won't say you were a perfect series, as you portrayal of autism could be problematic (that might be generous), I'm sure the majority of the medical science was complete rubbish, and the writing definitely had its weak moments (my personal picks for worst bits of the series are 1) Melendez's death, 2) the whole Salen character/arc, and 3) the beginning of Shaun/Lea, where Shaun came off more like an obsessed stalker at times.  Yikes!)  And I really do wish they had at least given this season a full order or at least additional episodes, because it did feel like a lot of stuff was rushed and not developed as well as they wanted it to (in particular, I feel like they wanted me to see Charlie and Dom as characters that are just as important as everyone else, but they just weren't quite there yet.)

And yet, despite whatever flaws there were, I really can't deny that I enjoyed all seven seasons of this show, and just loved spending time with these characters and the performers who helped bring such life and layers to them.  Certainly hope they get other gigs soon: really curious about Freddie Highmore in particular, because I noticed; like with Bates Motel; he did a decent amount of writing and directing as well, so I'm curious to see if he might start leaning more towards behind the scenes work going forward.  I'll definitely miss no longer getting to tune into this going forward, but I'm glad we did get to spend the time they gave us and it was able to get a proper send-off.  In this day and age, that's always a good thing!

And now it's time to raise a glass to this show in a way Shaun would hopefully approve of: "Tequila, stat!"

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Shaun's denial of Glassmans diagnosis was realistic and I loved Park supporting him as his best friend and letting him come up with treatments until he came to realization and accepted the decision.  

Them on the merry go round and then him alone was sad. Nice seeing the end of how far he came with two kids and two tvs lol. 

Claire and Jared's declaring love seemed out of nowhere fast and rushed but nice to see them together still in future.  

 

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1 hour ago, thuganomics85 said:

David Shore:  "Good news, Antonia!  We decided that Claire will actually live and get a happy ending with Jared!"

Antonia Thomas:  "Awesome!  Wasn't expecting that!"

David Shore:  "Yep!  And all it will take is Claire losing her arm!"

Antonia Thomas:  "Sigh... of course.  Really, it's on me for not seeing that coming..."

LOL, seriously, I thought the same thing. Even to the end, her life still has some kind of wild and difficult curveball. 

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2 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

Also glad that see saw Jerome again and he seems to be in a better place.

I liked how there was a guy sitting next to him that may or may not have been a new partner.

It allows people who want to think he'd be "no one else after Asher", and people who want him to move on and be happy, to both get their way by interpreting to their tastes.

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Even guessing how it was all going to go down, the ending really did get me, especially when we saw Shaun, Leah, and their kids together on the Merry Go Round. Very bittersweet ending, I would have been happy if Glassy hadn't died but I get why they did it like this. You cant save everyone, even people you love, and the foundation named about Glassy is a great way to honor him. 

Of course the show cant end without one last trauma for Claire, they bring her back just to hack her arm off and end her career, I am so not surprised. At least it seems like she bounced back working with Shaun and having a happy family with Jared, luckily the show ended before they could come up with anything else to happen to her. 

I liked the flashforwards overall, everyone seems like they're in a good place and are still friends even after going off to do their own things, especially Shaun now being chief of medicine and well known enough to do a Ted Talk. I am also really glad to see Charlie excelling in a way that Shaun did before her, with her own newbies following after her, I wish that we had a longer season to get to know her more. I was also happy to see Jerome briefly, possibly with a new partner, doing alright in the future. I assume he went to work at another hospital, working at the place where his whole relationship with Asher happened was probably too hard.

I really felt for both Shaun and Glassy, I can get why Shaun wanted to do anything he could to save his father but I can get why Glassy didn't want to put off the inevitable and spend his remaining time with Shaun, Leah, and Steve. I am really relived that they managed to make up before the end. 

Its a bittersweet ending for the characters and for me, I have been watching since the show started, all of its ups and downs, and while the show certainly had its flaws, I am still really going to miss it and its very talented cast. 

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The one thing that bugged me about this episode: why the hell was Kalu allowed to treat Claire? Granted they weren’t family, but he was a little too close to be really objective.

Really glad that she lived. I halfway expected there’d be a scene with Melendez welcoming her to the afterlife because this show never gave Claire a break before.

Also nice to see Charlie leading a group of first years. I initially couldn’t stand her but she really grew on me.

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8 minutes ago, CarpeFelis said:

The one thing that bugged me about this episode: why the hell was Kalu allowed to treat Claire? Granted they weren’t family, but he was a little too close to be really objective.

Yeah, that same thought crossed my mind, too.

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Really glad that she lived. I halfway expected there’d be a scene with Melendez welcoming her to the afterlife 

As did this, and I too am glad they didn't go that route. 

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10 minutes ago, CarpeFelis said:

The one thing that bugged me about this episode: why the hell was Kalu allowed to treat Claire? Granted they weren’t family, but he was a little too close to be really objective.

Really glad that she lived. I halfway expected there’d be a scene with Melendez welcoming her to the afterlife because this show never gave Claire a break before.

Also nice to see Charlie leading a group of first years. I initially couldn’t stand her but she really grew on me.

I was thinking the same about Kalu (and, well, the rest of the staff).

I have to admit that I laughed so hard when they snuck in one last "fuck you" to Claire by chopping her arm off. My god, that lady had a horrible seven years. She must've broken a mirror the day before Shan got to the hospital.

I hope that Kayla Cromer gets a starring role soon (and have it last a while!) - I want to see her on my screen again. Preferably something with good writing. She doesn't even have to play an autistic character (apparently this is a big issue in the autistic acting community - they keep trying to get neurotypical roles and casting directors try to pigeonhole them as only able to play autistic characters)!

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Kalu treating Claire is not what bothering me. It is the amputation happening with TWO DOCTORS in the OR. 

A little inspo porn in the end, Shaun listing his accomplishments "despite being autistic". But at least they inserted the acknowledgement that nobody makes it on their own, people need people and even savant autistic people need people.

Predictable ending, with everyone happy and thriving, even staying in the same hospital forever. It was a rushed sesaon but I don't think a regular season would bring anything new or better, that's just how the writing happened in this show

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I mostly liked it. That said, I didn’t think Shawn’s presentation at the end was worthy of a TED talk. It rang more like a speech someone would give accepting an award or something. They tied it all up with a bow, I enjoyed the ride, I will miss it. 

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I have seen a lot of TED Talks that are exactly like that. Some of them are info-dense, and others are a few ideas and a plug for a project where you can learn more. 

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just an aside:

I had a recent experience with a neurodivergent doctor. Not sure if he is autistic or what but definitely neurodivergent. Doesn't like to spend too much time with the patient or family members, says what he has to say and then he is gone. He only does advanced testing but after the test, again, only the basics.

It made me think: great he is in the "top" of his area and that people respect him - at least outwardly. But he could also do better. He doesn't have to engage with patients more than he is able to but he might have an assistant with whom he could share his findings so there is more of a clarity to us, the ones who get nervous about results and prognosis, but have nobody to actually explain the possible outcomes and prognostic. Instead we have to wait for over a week to get results we can't really interpret

In this context, the show made Shaun really rise up, even if I still hate how completely missed the mark in some of the plots where autism and overload, reaction to this would play out.

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My heart must be made of stone, because this left me very cold. Then again, I haven't been invested in this show for quite a few seasons now. I think the last time I was engaged was when Satan owned the hospital and only because I hated her and her fake ADHD so much.

The last sliver of love for this show, I had in my heart, died when they killed Asher.

Not sure what else to say. Kinda glad it's over, actually.

On 5/22/2024 at 3:11 PM, Starchild said:

I liked how there was a guy sitting next to him that may or may not have been a new partner.

It allows people who want to think he'd be "no one else after Asher", and people who want him to move on and be happy, to both get their way by interpreting to their tastes.

They were holding hands, so I'd say it's pretty definitive. I think at least that is a good message. That people can and should find a partner and even happyness again, when somebody dies. Of course they'll always miss that person, but that can't mean that life stops.

2 hours ago, possibilities said:

I have seen a lot of TED Talks that are exactly like that. Some of them are info-dense, and others are a few ideas and a plug for a project where you can learn more. 

Are you sure those were TED talks and not TEDx talks? Real TED talks usually have higher quality and more substance than what Shaun babbled together on that stage.

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1 hour ago, PurpleTentacle said:

Are you sure those were TED talks and not TEDx talks?

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. A real TED talk, which I think is about on par with the one Shaun gave.

To be clear: I have nothing at all against the talk he gave or the one by Cindy Gallop. Both her real ideas and organization and Shaun's fictional ones are fine with me. 

But I think this supports my feeling that Shaun's talk is realistic within the bounds of a TED talk. Mileage may vary!

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20 hours ago, circumvent said:

Kalu treating Claire is not what bothering me. It is the amputation happening with TWO DOCTORS in the OR. 

A little inspo porn in the end, Shaun listing his accomplishments "despite being autistic". But at least they inserted the acknowledgement that nobody makes it on their own, people need people and even savant autistic people need people.

Predictable ending, with everyone happy and thriving, even staying in the same hospital forever. It was a rushed sesaon but I don't think a regular season would bring anything new or better, that's just how the writing happened in this show

I think it could've been nice to have at least a little bit more time with the new doctors for them to be fleshed out.

13 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

Did they ever say what became of Hannah?

Obviously she disappeared on the way to her home planet rehab.

Nah, they didn't say

10 hours ago, circumvent said:

just an aside:

I had a recent experience with a neurodivergent doctor. Not sure if he is autistic or what but definitely neurodivergent. Doesn't like to spend too much time with the patient or family members, says what he has to say and then he is gone. He only does advanced testing but after the test, again, only the basics.

It made me think: great he is in the "top" of his area and that people respect him - at least outwardly. But he could also do better. He doesn't have to engage with patients more than he is able to but he might have an assistant with whom he could share his findings so there is more of a clarity to us, the ones who get nervous about results and prognosis, but have nobody to actually explain the possible outcomes and prognostic. Instead we have to wait for over a week to get results we can't really interpret

In this context, the show made Shaun really rise up, even if I still hate how completely missed the mark in some of the plots where autism and overload, reaction to this would play out.

I think I had a neurodivergent doctor as a kid. Genius neurologist, very.... eccentric. Appointments were always at least 20+ minutes - my mom would bring my sister and I most of the time, unless my dad had off work and he could take me (or he would watch my sister and my mom took me) and almost every visit he would have me do this reflex and motor skill tests, then he would ask my mom to do them, then my sister. He loved seeing how each of us did on the tests - I believe he was board certified in pediatric neurology and clinical genetics, so I guess that is why he liked seeing my family do the testing (Especially the times both of my parents came). Weird dude, amazing doctor.

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5 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Omg, I found the finale quite touching….tears were streaming. I’ll miss this series.

Yup, I had tears streaming down my face several times. Then again, I can be a softie. I still slightly resent what they did to Melendez (yes, it's been years, I know). And then Asher most recently. But I did like the finale, so much so that I rewatched it today and yup, tears again.

My best wishes to everyone involved with the show. 

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17 hours ago, A.Ham said:

Yup, I had tears streaming down my face several times. Then again, I can be a softie. I still slightly resent what they did to Melendez (yes, it's been years, I know). And then Asher most recently. But I did like the finale, so much so that I rewatched it today and yup, tears again.

My best wishes to everyone involved with the show. 

Yeah….Shaun gets to be President, Chief, or whatever….a family and 2 televisions, and Claire got her arm amputated.  Okay….that was the hand she was dealt. Please pardon the pun.  

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just watched the finale.  Yea I’m a softie and had done sniffles.  It wrapped up better than expected.  I will miss the show.  Wish all the cast well.

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11 hours ago, Driad said:

Maybe Claire had watched "ER" and was thinking, "At least they didn't drop a helicopter on me."

Definitely.

Or Grey's Anatomy and "oh good I wasn't in the ER with a bomb...or hit by a car while helping someone...or in a plane crash..."

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This show has been a great ride over the past 6 and a half years. Too bad Freddie Highmore doesn't have another role (as far as I know) to jump into right away, as he did with this show when Bates Motel ended. I just enjoy watching him in anything he's in.

Glad that Shaun made Chief of Surgery, and that Claire ended up happy with Jared (still hated that she lost an arm).

On 5/23/2024 at 4:44 PM, PurpleTentacle said:

Are you sure those were TED talks and not TEDx talks? Real TED talks usually have higher quality and more substance than what Shaun babbled together on that stage.

Even so, he could always climb up to TED talks. :P

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On 5/22/2024 at 7:28 AM, Annber03 said:

LOL, seriously, I thought the same thing. Even to the end, her life still has some kind of wild and difficult curveball. 

One of many reasons I quit the show, but am glad to know the end is worth watching.. for the PLOT of course, not Chuku

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5 hours ago, catrice2 said:

One of many reasons I quit the show, but am glad to know the end is worth watching.. for the PLOT of course, not Chuku

I totally read "Chuku" as Cthulu - that would've made made this show into something even more hilarious.

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