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[ginger90]

I’m thinking they know there will not be an offer without allowances for repairs that are needed. Of course that could backfire big time, especially if the buyer wants the repairs made by Robyn and Kody prior to closing as opposed to a low offer.

[precious pupp]

5 hours ago, LilyD said:

But…..but it’s KODY BROWN’S HOUSE you’re buying!  The one and only, absolutely amazing, handsome and intelligent renowned tv celebrity! 

I’m quite positive Kody has taken that into consideration when setting the asking price.  

That's the first thought I had.  He's a self-important Z-list weenie.

[Absolom]

Remember how over priced the Vegas houses were? I think that's Kody's wavelength.

[ginger90]

51 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Remember how over priced the Vegas houses were? I think that's Kody's wavelength.

And we know how that worked out. Janelle and Christine had houses sitting there for quite some time. Christine’s sold last. It took changing realtors and lowering the prices.

[Gramto6]

9 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Things like poor upkeep is a warning sign for a lot of buyers. If you can see a couple of things they start to wonder what you can't see. I hope whoever makes an offer plans on having a thorough inspection done.

Maybe its me, but if I was buying a million dollar home I'd wouldn't want to be ordering household water, although I suppose its handy during major storms.

I've forgotten, how close is this home to their property? If they can't drill a well here, I wonder if it will also be not possible on the property? It will be a miracle iif they ever make any money off that albatross. Another of Kody's great money making schemes.....

Edited September 8 by Gramto6

[LilyD]

4 hours ago, ginger90 said:

And we know how that worked out. Janelle and Christine had houses sitting there for quite some time. Christine’s sold last. It took changing realtors and lowering the prices.

I’d prefer any of those houses over this ugly house riddled with issues any time!

[Gramto6]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

I’d prefer any of those houses over this ugly house riddled with issues any time!

Yeah, probably, but we really don't know what kind of condition those homes were in. The kids were smaller and more likely to be banging into things and their parental units weren't the best at home maintenance so I'd guess they weren't that great either. But they were newer and had running water w/out trucking it in, so that for me is a big plus right there!!

Edited September 8 by Gramto6

[Orcinus orca]

I guess if you can afford a million + house, the expense of hauling in water isn't a big deal.  But the inconvenience would drive me batty.

[Elizzikra]

16 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Things like poor upkeep is a warning sign for a lot of buyers. If you can see a couple of things they start to wonder what you can't see. I hope whoever makes an offer plans on having a thorough inspection done.

Maybe its me, but if I was buying a million dollar home I'd wouldn't want to be ordering household water, although I suppose its handy during major storms.

It sort of depends on the home and the buyer. The homes in my mom's neighborhood were built in the 60's and many of them still have the original owners. So as they are aging and moving out, the hot new thing is to sell the home "as is." it saves the seller having to do anything or invest any money. The buyer gets a home in a desirable neighborhood for a lower than average price and since they have to rip everything out, they can design the interior however they like. It doesn't matter if the carpets or the hardwoods or whatever haven't been properly maintained because the new owner is just going to pull them out anyway.

[Roslyn]

3 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

I guess if you can afford a million + house, the expense of hauling in water isn't a big deal.  But the inconvenience would drive me batty.

If I remember correctly I read that the water tank is filled twice a month with a cost of $600 a fill up.  Water is a fluctuating commodity just like electricity and gas, the price goes up and down. I can't imagine a water bill like that.

[Orcinus orca]

9 hours ago, Roslyn said:

I can't imagine a water bill like that.

Or having to debate over every drop used.  I am not wasteful but debating every load of laundry or dishwasher run would get tedious.  But, again, if you can afford that house I guess it wouldn't matter.

10 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

The buyer gets a home in a desirable neighborhood for a lower than average price and since they have to rip everything out, they can design the interior however they like.

Except that this cannot possibly be a lower price, can it?  Knowing Kootie, he is shooting for the stars on that listing probably based on "star power" and his perception that someone would find that valuable.  It will be really interesting to see how long it's on the market and at what price it sells.

[BAForever]

Late to the house selling party. Thanks to all who keep up with these Bozos and share. 

So any thoughts on where they are moving? Where's Day'un now? Are they following him again? Enquiring minds want to know. (Is it Inquiring)?

[ginger90]

7 minutes ago, BAForever said:

Where's Day'un now?

According to someone who did a tour of the house, the RV is also for sale. They were told they couldn’t look inside because the realtor didn’t know if Dayton was in it. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I thought filming that tour and posting it was so out of line so I’m not taking their word for anything, just repeating what they said.

[Roslyn]

1 hour ago, Orcinus orca said:

Or having to debate over every drop used.  I am not wasteful but debating every load of laundry or dishwasher run would get tedious.  But, again, if you can afford that house I guess it wouldn't matter.

I grew up where our water was spring fed and then after the neighbor did some selective logging it would run dirty after heavy rains, then my Grandparents had a well drilled. Most of my life has been living with wells and septic so I naturally go with the ebb and flow of water conservation.

We are fortunate where our home is located, the hillside behind us produces a creek, two artesian springs and feeds our well and our closest neighbor who owns the hillside. When I see the springs (both flow through our property) dry during the summer I know to take it easy on water usage in the house. We have never run dry, but I have always been cautious.

When Kody was faffing about during the delivery of the water tank I laughed when he thought that would be big enough to potentially feed four households filled with people accustomed to piped in city water.

[MamaMax]

6 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

Or having to debate over every drop used.  I am not wasteful but debating every load of laundry or dishwasher run would get tedious.  But, again, if you can afford that house I guess it wouldn't matter.

Except that this cannot possibly be a lower price, can it?  Knowing Kootie, he is shooting for the stars on that listing probably based on "star power" and his perception that someone would find that valuable.  It will be really interesting to see how long it's on the market and at what price it sells.

I'm sure its also due to the story Kody likes to tell himself that he's a smart businessman and that the house was a good investment, not an ego purchase for him and his most favored lady. 

 

[LilyD]

5 hours ago, MamaMax said:

I'm sure its also due to the story Kody likes to tell himself that he's a smart businessman and that the house was a good investment, not an ego purchase for him and his most favored lady. 

 

Without the helocs/extra mortgages and proper maintenance, it would have been an amazing investment. Yet, even with those taken into consideration, they’d probably still make a pretty decent return. The big question is: what’s left of that after everything else?

He’s gone through 3 “divorces” and they never come cheap as assets need to be divided and you lose out on your partners’ income. And I’m not even taking into consideration the possibility that he still owes money to Janelle and Meri for CP.

He’s had 3 kids in college recently (assuming he didn’t pay for the other kids) and that’s a small fortune in itself. Someone, or possibly both of them, seems to have a huge shopping addiction which needs to be funded. On top, we had Covid 19 a few years back which was a financial disaster for many businesses. Filming mostly came to a halt and I’m sure their other businesses suffered, just like anyone else’s.Lots of people took huge loans or burned through their financial reserve to survive that. Many still haven’t recovered. 

Based on simple reasoning/common sense, it can’t possibly look good, unless he really is making a fortune somehow. But if that truly was the case, surely they would have paid for that dangerous deck in order to keep precious Ari safe?

[ginger90]

Article with a clip from upcoming season:

 

https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sister-wives-season-19-premiere-meri-feels-sad-kody-rcna170280

 

 

 

[Irate Panda]

I’ve been hearing Kody and Robyn are going bankrupt for years now, but they always seem to stumble along just fine.  Obviously, it was easier having the other women’s money, but if they aren’t concern with saving money for say retirement couldn’t they have enough money to live decently on? They probably have gotten raises since the initial paycut and are the actually paying for the any of their kids schooling? I know Robyn made sure they had food in their bellies, but is tuition more important than her purple comforters, wall art, or Kody’s hair products?  
 

I don’t necessarily think they’re maxing out IRAs but between the show money, Kody’s endless streams of cameos, whatever outside businesses he’s still flailing around in, wouldn’t they have enough money to actually live on? I wouldn’t be surprised if Kody and Robyn just spend every dime, but make enough to live high on the tragic art hog.  Wouldn’t the dirt patch and the lite-brite-on-LSD artwork be considered hundreds of thousands of dollars of assets?  At this point I think they may even have narrowed their spending to Arabella and Sol.  Soul’s legos double as curlers for Kody and Arabella’s American Girl dolls are nannies for the cherished teddies.  Plus they probably get tax deductions for all the spirit babies.  
 

It’s like I don’t necessarily think they have tons of cash savings, but if they are down to 2 kids, wouldn’t they make enough every month for all these shopping sprees and a big house? The older girls (forget their names) probably get some money out of the SADKRAB fund, but if they are living at home then their bills are probably not that much.  dayun probably has gotten a job by now so Kody has probably forwarded him his bills.  Hey if the RV has a counter, Robyn might even swing by and flop down some of their bills because everybody knows magical counters pay your bills.  
 

I think maybe we expect Robyn and Kody to go bankrupt because they’re  horrible and overspend but they seemingly don’t care about medical bills or retirement savings so if they are just living month to month I could see them being able to buy a bigger house.  I think it will only become a problem when the show ends, Kody physically can’t work anymore, or the ex “wives” actually tried to sue for some money which they probably won’t  do.  

Also, I see Kody is sporting a new $2500??? Medallion in the promo pics, what happened to the Titanic necklace? Did he throw it in the ocean desert?

 

[LilyD]

8 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

think maybe we expect Robyn and Kody to go bankrupt because they’re  horrible and overspend but they seemingly don’t care about medical bills or retirement savings

Fair point, plus the fact that no one has a real insight into their financial savings.

We do know however that Kody has gone bankrupt in the past as well as some of the wives. We also know that Robyn was in serious debt when she met Kody. They’ve racked up some monsterous medical bills due to a lack of insurance for the kids (Mykelti, Truely and Dayton). And if they had enough money, why taking out extra koans on the house or squander Janelle’s retirement fund? Based on their previous actions, it’s just hard to imagine them in a different situation I guess.

 

[ginger90]

38 minutes ago, LilyD said:

We do know however that Kody has gone bankrupt in the past as well as some of the wives.

Kody and Meri filed jointly, and Janelle and Christine also filed, all in different years.

[BAForever]

I think it may be because they are such heinous people, that we want them to be poor. I know I do.

[Absolom]

I expect they are having some financial pain.  I can see them needing to dump the house they should never have bought. I think with a bit of rational thought (yeah, I know) they could easily avoid bankruptcy. They have lost access to the other wives' income so there's cutback1 and cutback2 is that surely they are no longer paid in one check and Kody and  Robyn now must deal with only 2/5 of the show.  Before the show money was divided into six pots after they were paid so Kody and Robyn could and likely did walk away with half.

Edited September 12 by Absolom

[ChristmasJones]

Dropping this here. I stopped watching the show around the time they were talking about moving to Flagstaff. But have followed along on here ever since.

This past weekend, they aired the original season again. I decided to watch it. I couldn't get past the first two episodes. Watching Sobyn and Kody drool over each other, looking like they wanted to hump like wild bunnies every moment they were together.... I just couldn't. 

It was so obvious from the beginning what the demise would be. You didn't have to wait three seasons. The poor OGs sitting there talking about bringing Sobyn into their family.... and yet they were picking up on things even from the get-go. Like Christine, pregnant, sitting next to Kody and crying about how she hadn't even met Sobyn at that point, while in another segment Sobyn is talking about how in love she is.

Also what was sooo apparent from the very beginning is how fixated Sobyn was on getting help with her kids. She kept talking about that.

I knew it was bad in the beginning, but to see those first couple of episodes all these years later, it was honestly painful to watch. The three OG wives were sitting ducks. 

[Denize]

2 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

I knew it was bad in the beginning, but to see those first couple of episodes all these years later, it was honestly painful to watch. The three OG wives were sitting ducks. 

I felt the same way. I only checked out Sister Wives because I was having withdrawal symptoms with Big Love ending and (skeptically) wanted to see if it could work in the real world. I remembered the fleeting glances of the OG3 at Rob'em during the talking heads and my gut feelings were correct - it would never work. I'd forgotten that the OG3 were so honest, blunt and clear at the beginning about what they didn't like, while Kody sat on the same couch with a blank face and dead eyes as if he had no clue what interactions they were talking about nor did he feel compassion for how hurt they felt and all the sacrifices they had made to love tolerate him. After the first couple of seasons, the OG3 just stuffed down their feelings. The lack of honest conversations made the misery last 2-3 times longer than it should have. After Season 2, I mainly watched to see the kids grow up despite Kody & Robyn. It took that long to tell them apart & learn all their names.

Edited September 11 by Denize

[Yeah No]

On 9/8/2024 at 8:40 PM, Elizzikra said:

It sort of depends on the home and the buyer. The homes in my mom's neighborhood were built in the 60's and many of them still have the original owners. So as they are aging and moving out, the hot new thing is to sell the home "as is." it saves the seller having to do anything or invest any money. The buyer gets a home in a desirable neighborhood for a lower than average price and since they have to rip everything out, they can design the interior however they like. It doesn't matter if the carpets or the hardwoods or whatever haven't been properly maintained because the new owner is just going to pull them out anyway.

Really late to this house party, but I can attest to this. The new trend is to buy a house with good bones that needs renovation over one that has been updated in a way that may put off more buyers that it will attract. I was surprised when I put my father's apartment on the market that the realtor told me it was more worth my while just to list it "as is" because more people these days would rather be able to pick their own colors and materials than to buy something already done with finishes they don't really love. And sssshhhh, don't say anything but I think I got a better price doing it that way too. If the property is very desirable and buyers are under pressure to make an offer or risk losing it, you can actually get better money that way. If I had renovated it I probably wouldn't have done as well.

[CalicoKitty]

I agree that "as is" houses sell well.  My parents had lived in their 1960 house for close to 70 years and if was full of stuff.  Family members took what they wanted, and we sold the house as is, including all the stuff.  Didn't even have to list it.  It sold by word of mouth and the buyers took care of disposing of all the contents.  Under the carpets were 1960 hardwood floors that were never exposed.  My mom liked carpet throughout the house, including the bathrooms (shudder).  I have no carpet at all in my house and am very happy.

[Irate Panda]

14 hours ago, LilyD said:

They’ve racked up some monsterous medical bills due to a lack of insurance for the kids (Mykelti, Truely and Dayton). And if they had enough money, why taking out extra koans on the house or squander Janelle’s retirement fund?

I agree it’s a guessing game to their actual finances. I do think before the show they were probably pretty poor although I think they probably spent more of their money on legitimate things like food, rent, etc. although I imagine Kody and Meri probably had more luxury items than Janelle or Christine.  I’m not sure how long before the show Robyn got there but I’m sure she loaded up on precious moments figurines as soon as possible.

 I do think now they probably have enough to live off but I do think they absolutely cannot leave a source of cash money sitting there untapped , which is why I think they took the loans and monies from the other wives.  Like if they found 3000 dollars I don’t think they’d ever say let me put  this in savings or pay off a medical bill, instead it be what gaudy medallion or creepy wall art can I buy?

Honestly the only reason I feel like they haven’t sold the dirt patch yet is because they’d have to give Meri and Janelle some of the money and I’m sure the galls them.  I think they only pay bills that would cause them discomfort if they didn’t like guess I’ll pay this mortgage so I’m not homeless or guess I’ll pay this car payment so I don’t have to walk but I dont think they’d ever say let me buy a Honda Accord instead of this sports car. I think the other thing that irritates me is that they seemingly have to spend every available penny on the tackiest stuff possible.  Like could they buy one attractive high quality item?  Just one!  Pretty please, just once! 😊

[mythoughtis]

I expect Kody and Robin to go bankrupt because of their spending.  They are not thinking about a rainy day.  They’ve had plenty of rainy days and haven’t  learned from them.   Dayton’s eye wasn’t totally covered by insurance, most of the kids didn’t have insurance on their cars, they bought ground that’s too expensive to develop and they spend like no one’s watching.  Both were poor at least once in their lives, yet learned nothing from it except ‘ must spend money on crap’. 
 

The show isn’t going to go on forever.  They aren’t the stars of it anymore. The OG wives can negotiate their own contracts, leaving Kody and Robin without a great position to negotiate salary from.    The adult offspring interested in filling  can negotiate their own contracts too.  

[Orcinus orca]

24 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

The show isn’t going to go on forever.

I believe Kootie, Narcissist Supreme, actually believes the world is so fascinated by him that the show will go on and on and he will be raking in money until he dies.

I see a hard fall coming soon.  Despite the guesstimate on the worth of the art, it isn't worth a farthing until you have a buyer. A lot of times it isn't worth much until the artist croaks.  And I can't imagine a wide market for pieces so huge that they won't fit in a normal home.  A couple of those would cover my entire wall.

What is a mystery to me is how banks keep loaning him money. Are they stupid enough to believe this farce of a show is a steady source of income?

[laurakaye]

What I can't understand is how Kody (father to 18 kids even though he only cares about 5 of them) and Robyn can sleep at night knowing that they have kids to support and possibly put through college, a huge mortgage, a piece of unpaid dusty land full of nothing but prairie dogs and tumbleweeds and yet, they seem to be writing unlimited checks for multiple pieces of artwork, sculptures and "collectibles." How, exactly, does that work?  TLC cannot possibly be paying them enough to live like they're living, right?  Before I saw the inside of that house I knew it was full of stuff, but I don't think I realized that one sculpture alone was priced at several thousand dollars - and they owned dozens and dozens of similarly priced items.  Is this their way of keeping their cash from going to the OG 3 somehow?  It's baffling to me that Kody and Robyn basically live in a Vegas- themed art museum while Janelle squatted in an RV and then moved into what was basically a dorm room.

[GeeGolly]

On 9/8/2024 at 8:40 PM, Elizzikra said:

It sort of depends on the home and the buyer. The homes in my mom's neighborhood were built in the 60's and many of them still have the original owners. So as they are aging and moving out, the hot new thing is to sell the home "as is." it saves the seller having to do anything or invest any money. The buyer gets a home in a desirable neighborhood for a lower than average price and since they have to rip everything out, they can design the interior however they like. It doesn't matter if the carpets or the hardwoods or whatever haven't been properly maintained because the new owner is just going to pull them out anyway.

For sure. But if the house needs a new roof, updated wiring or plumbing, or has years of wood rot due to an unfixed leak, that's a bit of a new story. Fixing those things leaves little money to redo the cosmetic stuff.

[jschoolgirl]

8 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Is this their way of keeping their cash from going to the OG 3 somehow? 

I bet that’s it.

[Natalie68]

I am not sure this really belongs here but I just read an article about reality shows and how production has really slowed down. Wonder how long these shows have left in them?  

[Absolom]

All "Hollywood" is in a bit of a slump/mess right now.  A lot of people in the business are struggling to find work.  There are talented directors who can't even get second assistant director work.  We know some directors who are out of work for the first time in ten or twenty years.  One is working on a script for a new show to pitch so she can move up to executive producer if it's selected.  Another is turning solely to writing and another is thinking of leaving the business entirely.  They aren't alone.  It's across the board for all kinds of production work.  Networks aren't requesting the number of pilots they once did, viewership keeps dropping, Netflix isn't quite in freefall, but it isn't doing well.  COVID, the strikes, and the audience's changing viewing habits seem to have knocked almost all the shows off kilter.  Reality may well have run its course.  A few shows will go on, but I know I quit adding new reality shows to my playlist several years ago.  I'm sure I'm not alone in that. I'm down to I think only two that are still in production and with SW being one of the two, I expect to be at one or none within a year or two.  The other show is running out of gas, too, but I think SW will implode first.

Edited September 25 by Absolom

[Gramto6]

8 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Reality may well have run its course.  A few shows will go on, but I know I quit adding new reality shows to my playlist several years ago.  I'm sure I'm no alone in that. I'm down to I think only two that are still in production and with SW being one of the two, I expect to be at one or none within a year or two.  The other show is running out of gas, too, but I think SW will implode first.

So true! I too am down to just two reality shows. SW, I agree will implode before the other, but the other is limping along too, so who knows which will go first? 

[jschoolgirl]

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

Reality may well have run its course

Like variety shows and westerns. Reality is so awful … what will it be next?

[Orcinus orca]

7 hours ago, jschoolgirl said:

Like variety shows and westerns. Reality is so awful … what will it be next?

Since "reality" isn't real and never has been, it's just a badly written show with bad actors. People are sick of it. 

[General Days]

Sister Wives is the only reality show I've ever watched in earnest. I watched a couple-few seasons of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills — when Eileen Davidson and Lisa Rinna first joined — because I (then) watched Days of Our Lives. Everything about it kind of made me sick, though. 

11 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I am not sure this really belongs here but I just read an article about reality shows and how production has really slowed down. Wonder how long these shows have left in them?  

 

Where was the article, Natalie? 

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, General Days said:

Sister Wives is the only reality show I've ever watched in earnest. I watched a couple-few seasons of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills — when Eileen Davidson and Lisa Rinna first joined — because I (then) watched Days of Our Lives. Everything about it kind of made me sick, though. 

 

Where was the article, Natalie? 

It was in Huffpo yesterday but I heard it a couple of months ago as well. 

I do think the shows have pushed the boundaries and are no longer what drew many of us to it.  Lives of people out of our tax bracket doing rich person things with some petty grievances thrown in. Now it is Hunger Games and not an organic story. Super bad behavior and trying to be the biggest asshole you can (looking at Tamra, Vicki, Teresa, etc).

[LilyD]

Could it be that we were first drawn to reality shows because we believed it to be real? Maybe I’m wrong here but the first reality shows always felt more like documentaries rather than the fake soap operas that became the norm later on.
 

[Denize]

9 hours ago, General Days said:

I watched a couple-few seasons of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills — when Eileen Davidson and Lisa Rinna first joined

I couldn't make it more than part of two episodes. All the freak face plastic surgery made it hard to look at them, like an episode of Botched!

[General Days]

 

1 hour ago, Denize said:

I couldn't make it more than part of two episodes. All the freak face plastic surgery made it hard to look at them, like an episode of Botched!

 

One of the early BH housewives was married to a plastic surgeon (but I think they divorced after the left the show). I think he could have been on Botched, but I never watched it, so I'm not sure. She was Adrienne (sp?) Maloof, and he was Paul [Someone].

 

2 hours ago, LilyD said:

Could it be that we were first drawn to reality shows because we believed it to be real? Maybe I’m wrong here but the first reality shows always felt more like documentaries rather than the fake soap operas that became the norm later on.
 

 

I definitely thought that's what Sister Wives was going to be. One of my bigger disappointments with the series is that they just gave the religion a gloss. I only stuck around (when I did, I took giant breaks for seasons at a time), because of the kids. 

[Orcinus orca]

4 minutes ago, General Days said:

I definitely thought that's what Sister Wives was going to be. One of my bigger disappointments with the series is that they just gave the religion a gloss. I only stuck around (when I did, I took giant breaks for seasons at a time), because of the kids. 

I was looking for something educational and I never even made it through the first season when I saw what a crock it was.  And it reinforced that there is no "real" in reality shows. 

I honestly thought that House Hunters was people picking out a new home for purchase - what a dummy I was!  Haven't watched any reality shows again, ever.

[General Days]

3 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

I was looking for something educational and I never even made it through the first season when I saw what a crock it was.  And it reinforced that there is no "real" in reality shows. 

I honestly thought that House Hunters was people picking out a new home for purchase - what a dummy I was!  Haven't watched any reality shows again, ever.

That's not what House Hunters is? (I've never seen a moment.)

Did the kids keep you watching Sister Wives, or was it something else?

[Orcinus orca]

5 minutes ago, General Days said:

That's not what House Hunters is? (I've never seen a moment.)

Did the kids keep you watching Sister Wives, or was it something else?

The premise is that people are looking at houses. In reality, they have already purchased a house (or it is at least in escrow) and the others are fake listings.

And I haven't watched Sister Wives since season one.  I get all I need to know from the forums!

[General Days]

2 minutes ago, Orcinus orca said:

And I haven't watched Sister Wives since season one.  I get all I need to know from the forums!

You are the sanest of us all (which maybe doesn't say all that much, but it's something). (I'm glad you stuck around.)

[HoneyBeach]

On 9/11/2024 at 6:46 PM, Denize said:

I felt the same way. I only checked out Sister Wives because I was having withdrawal symptoms with Big Love ending and (skeptically) wanted to see if it could work in the real world. I remembered the fleeting glances of the OG3 at Rob'em during the talking heads and my gut feelings were correct - it would never work. I'd forgotten that the OG3 were so honest, blunt and clear at the beginning about what they didn't like, while Kody sat on the same couch with a blank face and dead eyes as if he had no clue what interactions they were talking about nor did he feel compassion for how hurt they felt and all the sacrifices they had made to love tolerate him. After the first couple of seasons, the OG3 just stuffed down their feelings. The lack of honest conversations made the misery last 2-3 times longer than it should have. After Season 2, I mainly watched to see the kids grow up despite Kody & Robyn. It took that long to tell them apart & learn all their names.

This might be the truest post I've ever read in this forum. You described it so well, I could see it vividly in my mind, and I wanted to vomit. Kody is an awful human being.

[General Days]

15 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

However the  Robyn- Kody-Meri picnic table talk was scripted because Meri wanted him to have to admit on camera that he didn’t want to be married to her. 

I agree, but I also think that was uncharacteristically strategic of Meri. She knew she would want a release from their covenant, and she did what she could get to (more) grounds for it.

[Mod-Tigerkatze]

Hi everyone, 

just dropping in with a quick note to let you know that the discussion about other Reality TV shows has been moved to the Small Talk thread. Please head on over there to continue the conversation.

Thank you. 

[General Days]

Moving the conversation from from the Christine thread. This particular conversation started here, continued here, and then below. 

9 hours ago, Absolom said:

I can't imagine TLC paying $200K per episode to the five original parents.  That would exceed their norm by a huge margin.  It's far more likely to be closer to $40 to $60K for the five of them per episode.  

 

I agree $40K per parent, per episode sounds high, which is why I mentioned that it would be a good take, even if they each only got half of that.

For that matter, last year, if each Brown parent made about $10K per episode, then they each pulled in about $240,000 for the year. It's not like they work a full year, by any stretch of the imagination. 

Even as far as reality TV shows go, this one is dirt cheap to produce. Their self-filmed segments during the height of the pandemic may have made it even cheaper.

There is no set to maintain (see the mansions and location shoots for reality fare like The Bachelor, or whatever island for Survivor), which cuts costs, and they wouldn't need a huge crew. The studio where they film their couch segments is now (as far as I can tell) in a little house in Flagstaff, owned by Tim Poole and/or Puddle Monkey.

There's no wardrobe to speak of. There's no hair and makeup (except for the One-On-Ones). The salary for the One-On-One host now (Sukanya Krishnan) is likely more affordable than it was when either Natalie Morales or Tamron Hall were hosting. Gone are the days of trips to Mexico, Hawaii, and Alaska. 

Also, the show has been on since 2010. Reportedly, a number of years ago, the Browns took a pay cut to keep the show going, but we don't know how long that lasted (like if there were ratings incentives to restore their pay) or anything.

TV series usually bump up the talents' pay after X years (however long their contract period is) has passed. Sister Wives is still (or is once again) one of TLC's highest rated programs (seriously, it's like #1 or #2). While the Browns have been financially desperate to continue the show in the past (when they had a lot more mouths at home to feed), TLC is likely eager to continue it, as long as it's bringing in eyeballs.

At any rate, I think the Browns are getting a full-time paycheck that regular people would consider livable, especially since they're getting it for working a part-time job, for only part of the year.