Jeopardy! Season 40 (2023-2024)

[Trey]

1 hour ago, secnarf said:

I spent most of the think music debating Taj vs Mahal, but then the clue said the same word "follows" Jal and Lal. So from that, I figured it was probably the second word so that it can follow the first, assuming the language would have a similar grammatical structure and that, like in English, the word meaning "palace" would come second.

Far from an instaget for me, given the above reasoning, but I got there just in the nick of time.

Good thinking! I didn't catch the "follows" clue or I might have got it.  I should pay more attention to every word in the clue and maybe I'll get more FJs.

[SomeTameGazelle]

On 10/20/2023 at 8:20 PM, chicagofan said:

I should have gotten Kramer vs. Kramer, but couldn't get it out of my poor old brain - "it's...it's...the one with Meryl Streep...damn". Funny that after that Meryl Streep was a correct response in DJ.

For some reason I didn't consciously think of Meryl then although I knew Kramer vs Kramer ... but for Doubt I thought of Meryl in the movie right away even though the clue was about the opera.

 

On 10/20/2023 at 5:30 PM, Driad said:

This came up a year or two ago, and someone said that they edit out some of the "What is" parts to speed up the broadcast game.  I don't know whether that is true.

I feel like I have a hard time believing this since answering in the form of a question is the whole Jeopardy gimmick and they have definite rules about it. Every time I have ever seen a case debated on the internet it has either been a situation where the host reminded the contestant about phrasing in the Jeopardy round before accepting the response, the host rejected the response in the Double Jeopardy round, or the contestant said "what's" in such a hurry it was easy to miss but if you replay it's definitely there.

On 10/20/2023 at 11:31 AM, proserpina65 said:

Last night's FJ was the instagetiest of all instagets for me, one of the approximately 400 billion Jennifers born in the US between 1965 and 1985.

I spent an inordinate amount of time reading the meaning and origin of names and I guessed Guinevere as soon as I saw Jennifer in the clue without reading a single other word. I wondered if the contestants might not have made the connection to Welsh since the spelling owes more to French and I think the Welsh version is more like Gwynhyfar Gwenhwyfar.

 

 

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

I feel like I have a hard time believing this since answering in the form of a question is the whole Jeopardy gimmick and they have definite rules about it.

It's because they have such a definite rule about it that I don't have a hard time believing it, since so many contestants, not just producers, over the years have responded to "So-and-So didn't say 'Who/What is' in X clue!" chatter by saying, "I was there, they did, that just sometimes gets trimmed for time."

[proserpina65]

On 10/20/2023 at 5:30 PM, Driad said:

This came up a year or two ago, and someone said that they edit out some of the "What is" parts to speed up the broadcast game.  I don't know whether that is true.

I have my doubts about that.  I know they will edit out requests to have an answer checked and only show the correction (if there is one), but actually editing out the "What is" or the reminder to use it in the first round seems wrong.

On 10/21/2023 at 1:35 AM, Scott said:

I know it's always easier from the couch and all that, but "Hellman play" -> "The Little Foxes" (with the confirmation of "vulpine" in the clue) is such a trivia staple that all three of them should have been escorted from the stage right there and then.

Yep Hellman play is ALWAYS The Little Foxes.  Always.

On 10/21/2023 at 10:10 AM, ams1001 said:

Taj Mahal translates to Crown Palace.

Jal Mahal is Water Palace, and Lal Mahal is Red Palace.

I said Mahal since it was the second word in the name of a famous Indian building, but wasn't entirely sure since I didn't know what either word meant.  Now I do, thank you for the info.  I might even remember it, lol.

 

[SomeTameGazelle]

1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:

I have my doubts about that.  I know they will edit out requests to have an answer checked and only show the correction (if there is one), but actually editing out the "What is" or the reminder to use it in the first round seems wrong.

Not just wrong because the rules are not only for the studio, they are part of what the viewing audience expects to see, but also because it seems unlikely that they would stop the clock to check anything between the contestant ringing in and giving their response and therefore you would have to be inexplicably desperate for time to go to the trouble of making an edit at that spot. 

2 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

Yep Hellman play is ALWAYS The Little Foxes.  Always.

The Children's Hour?

[proserpina65]

14 minutes ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

The Children's Hour?

I suppose it might've been the answer once or twice, but seriously, I can only remember them ever using The Little Foxes.

[Bastet]

3 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I suppose it might've been the answer once or twice, but seriously, I can only remember them ever using The Little Foxes.

The archive shows around ten clues about The Children's Hour, but only five of them are of the "This Lillian Hellman play" variety; as you said, the majority of those type of clues are asking about The Little Foxes instead.

[chicagofan]

Fair to middlin' game today - not great,  but not horrible either. J round was better than DJ - ran "The Real Old College Try" and got 4 in "A Woman of the World" and "Stupid Proverbs". TSs were Padua (thank you Kiss Me Kate), old soldiers never die and money.

Only one good category in DJ - got 4 in "Smart Answers". Guess I'm equally smart and stupid. TSs/missed DDs were Baltic Sea (DD) and Bringing Up Baby".

Should have gotten FJ, but I talked myself out of Motown - somehow I thought it was a little later than 1959. I don't know why, but I went with Capitol Records. I should have made the connections in the clue - Lincoln-Mercury/car assembly line/Detroit/Motown, but alas, no.

[ams1001]

October 23:

67% / 47% / 57%

Not a great start to the week; J! was better than DJ. Ran Stupid Proverbs (guess I'm stupider than them), missed one in Woman of the World, two in The Really Old College Try, Just Kidding, and Always Say Never, and three in The Name of the Game.

In DJ I ran "Baby" Movies, missed two in People with Muppet Names and No, I Don't Need a Doctor, three in Smart Answers, four in The History Channel, and five in A River Runs To It.

Had to think a few seconds but I got FJ, at least.

TSes: (J had 7 + the DD; DJ had 7 + both DDs) I got money, succeeds, Old Soldiers Never Die, St. Elmo (DD), Bringing Up Baby, and Gone Baby Gone.
 

[Katy M]

FJ was an instaget.

I got the missed clues of succeeds, old soldiers never die, Assyria, Justinian, Saint Elmo and Gone Baby Gone.

[Browncoat]

Instaget FJ for me tonight.  

I also got the TS of money, Padua, succeeds, skylark, old soldiers never die, Columbia River, Missouri River, St. Elmo, Bringing Up Baby, and Gone Baby Gone.

 

[chessiegal]

"its founder worked on a Lincoln-Mercury assembly line" = Detroit = Motown.

[secnarf]

I do not have nearly enough American "common knowledge" to equate Lincoln-Mercury with Detroit. If you asked me what city Motown is associated with, I wouldn't have been able to tell you.

Somehow, though, this question immediately reminded me of the infamous Barry/Berry debacle and from that I knew the answer was Motown.

That clue, from 2020, reads: In 2019, at a 60th anniversary event in Detroit, this producer announced his retirement saying he had "come full circle".

Tonight's clue: Before creating this record label in 1959, its founder worked on a Lincoln-Mercury assembly line

The only link I can find there is that 2019 - 60 years = 1959. I had never heard of Berry Gordy before the 2020 clue (and tonight could only remember "Berry").

Anyways, it was somehow an instaget for me. No idea how that happened.

[Grizzly]

I thought FJ was looking for a person. ☹️ Can I say I was distracted by trying to finish the newspaper?

[shapeshifter]

37 minutes ago, Grizzly said:

I thought FJ was looking for a person. ☹️ Can I say I was distracted by trying to finish the newspaper?

Sure.
I was very distracted by the nanny cam showing my grand-toddler's new bedtime set-up with his new bed, combined with my daughter reading The Giant Jam Sandwich ("Farmer Seed said, 'Use my field!'").

So I could not possibly get Mercury Records out of my head for FJ, even though I knew they would not have the word Mercury in the clue if that was the correct response. 

But I did manage to run NO, I DON'T NEED A DOCTOR and get the TSs of "Gone Baby Gone" and "Old Soldiers Never Die."

[30 Helens]

“Calvin and Hobbes” is not the same as “Calvin”. It’s like asking “this singer from a famous duo later recorded ‘Call Me Al’” and accepting “Who is Simon and Garfunkel”. I always forget which is the kid and which is the tiger, so it took me a few seconds to sort it out. Seems I didn’t need to bother.

The blank stares for “Bringing Up Baby” made me sad. I love that movie. I once had a cat named Baby, named for the film.

FJ took a minute, but I got there. Phew.

Edited October 24, 2023 by 30 Helens

[Prevailing Wind]

5 hours ago, secnarf said:

The only link I can find there is that 2019 - 60 years = 1959. I had never heard of Berry Gordy before the 2020 clue (and tonight could only remember "Berry").

I was afraid we'd get another Barry/Berry controversy. LOL.

[SomeTameGazelle]

4 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

“Calvin and Hobbes” is not the same as “Calvin”. It’s like asking “this singer from a famous duo later recorded ‘Call Me Al’” and accepting “Who is Simon and Garfunkel”.

Adding Garfunkel when asking about a solo Simon work would definitely be wrong, but I think it's more like having a clue that refers to this lead singer of the group that sang Baby Love and responding with "Diana Ross and the Supremes".  Or some of the cases where they ask for the title of a song and the response is a lyric that starts with the title of the song and adds a couple more words. As long as the additional words don't turn it into something completely different they accept the response. Ken tried to make that clear by confirming that Calvin was the boy.

[laredhead]

6 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

The blank stares for “Bringing Up Baby” made me sad. I love that movie. I once had a cat named Baby, named for the film.

I love the movie Bringing Up Baby.  Of course, I have always loved anything with Cary Grant in it.  It's one of the funniest movies ever - IMO. 

[Trey]

11 hours ago, secnarf said:

Somehow, though, this question immediately reminded me of the infamous Barry/Berry debacle and from that I knew the answer was Motown.

I remembered that too, so I was glad we only had to name the company (an instaget), not the person, because I couldn't remember if it was Berry or Barry.

Overall a good game for me.  I got the ts's or missed DDs of money, succeeds, old soldiers never die, Columbia river, St. Elmo, and Bringing up Baby.

[SomeTameGazelle]

3 hours ago, laredhead said:

I love the movie Bringing Up Baby.  Of course, I have always loved anything with Cary Grant in it.  It's one of the funniest movies ever - IMO. 

I Can't Give You Anything But Love, Baby.

[Clanstarling]

15 hours ago, Grizzly said:

I thought FJ was looking for a person. ☹️ Can I say I was distracted by trying to finish the newspaper?

I said Berry Gordy right off, then a few seconds later it was "D'oh, it's the record company" and I said Motown in time. So, starting the week with one FJ.

10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

“Calvin and Hobbes” is not the same as “Calvin”. It’s like asking “this singer from a famous duo later recorded ‘Call Me Al’” and accepting “Who is Simon and Garfunkel”. I always forget which is the kid and which is the tiger, so it took me a few seconds to sort it out. Seems I didn’t need to bother.

Yeah, I agree on this one. Since the question did clearly ask for the kid:

Quote

Created by Bill Watterson, this comic strip kid says of class bully Moe, "Never argue with a 6-year-old who shaves"

But, hey. Who am I to second guess the Jeopardy judges? 😉

[Bastet]

12 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

The blank stares for “Bringing Up Baby” made me sad. I love that movie. I once had a cat named Baby, named for the film.

Just reading that no one knew the film makes me sad.  One of my favorites of all time, and I've seen it so many times I can quote along verbatim when I watch.

[chicagofan]

Did about the same today as yesterday - not my best game, but not all that bad either.

4 good categories in the J round. Got 4 in "War & Peas", "The USTA", "Invented First" and "Pound" Key". Only one TS - K-rations.

Consistent is the term for DJ - got 3 right in every category except for "Go See a Movie About a Horse", where I got 4 right. TSs/missed DDs were Butchart Gardens (a really beautiful place), China(DD) and brother.

No FJ again today - didn't really have a clue until John's incomplete response of Bob D was revealed and then I thought it could be Bob Dylan. Sigh.

[ams1001]

October 24:

70% / 57% / 63%

A little better than yesterday, at least…J was barely into "decent" territory (by my scale). Missed one each in The USTA, Novel Ideas, Invented First, and "Pound" Key, two in Who Wants to Be a Milliner? and three in War and Peas.

Not so much in DJ…missed one in Contronyms, two in Go See a Movie About a Horse, The Metropolitan Opera, and a Category full of Cor(e)ys, and three in Gardens and Countries That Border India.

FJ was pretty much an instaget, at least.

TSes: (J had 6; DJ had 7 + 1DD) I got colors of tennis balls, Architect of the Capitol, fast, and Little Brother.
 

[Katy M]

FJ was an instaguess.

I got 2 missed clues but I can't read them.

I got the entire categories of novel and invented first right and Met Opera wrong (not shocking).

[stonehaven]

Are they rerunning the Champions Wildcard tourney again? I thought they crowned a winner last week? 

[ams1001]

1 minute ago, stonehaven said:

Are they rerunning the Champions Wildcard tourney again? I thought they crowned a winner last week? 

They're doing four rounds. Each group is named after a suit of cards - spades, diamonds, clubs, and hearts (in that order). Nine Quarterfinal games, three Semifinals, and a two-game final for each.

J! site has the schedule here: 

https://www.jeopardy.com/track/2023/champions-wildcard-s37-38

[stonehaven]

Thanks. This seems like it will NEVER end. I love Jeopardy and I love Ken Jennings but this whole tourney leaves me wanting, somehow.....

[ams1001]

2 minutes ago, stonehaven said:

Thanks. This seems like it will NEVER end. I love Jeopardy and I love Ken Jennings but this whole tourney leaves me wanting, somehow.....

I can't wait to get back to regular games.

[SomeTameGazelle]

I guessed Sweden for ärtsoppa since I was sure it must be a Scandinavian language. 

I was surprised no one guessed Little Brother based on the Orwell + Big provided. They were willing to guess all kinds of Asian countries in the bordering India category on less obvious pieces of information (or maybe I should say less widely known in America).

Mildly annoyed with Ken for inserting his comment about the Vegas sign before Steve's Bellagio response. I don't think it made any difference scorewise or anything, it just interfered with my mental rhythm.

I was cheering very hard for Jilana so I was delighted that she was the only one to get FJ.

[Prevailing Wind]

I was stumped for FJ. But I took a wild stab and said, "His Bobness."  I had no idea he'd won an Oscar.

 

[ams1001]

7 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I was stumped for FJ. But I took a wild stab and said, "His Bobness."  I had no idea he'd won an Oscar.

He won it (and a Golden Globe) for Best Original Song for "Things Have Changed" from Wonder Boys.

 

[30 Helens]

Bob Dylan won a Nobel Prize for literature? Did he write a book? Or were some of his lyrics deemed worthy of being called literature? I was baffled by that. (And clearly, no, I didn’t get FJ.)

[secnarf]

2 hours ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

I guessed Sweden for ärtsoppa since I was sure it must be a Scandinavian language.

I thought it sounded like Ikea furniture, so also guessed Sweden.

12 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Bob Dylan won a Nobel Prize for literature? Did he write a book? Or were some of his lyrics deemed worthy of being called literature? I was baffled by that. (And clearly, no, I didn’t get FJ.)

He did a few years back. It was really controversial (yes it was for his lyrics) and I think he refused to accept it He refused to attend the ceremony and received the award in private. All the hoopla surrounding it made him an instaget for me, although I didn't know he had won an Academy award and it took me a little while to clue in that it was probably for a song and that it was plausible. Otherwise singer-songwriter + Nobel = Bob Dylan for me.

[laredhead]

13 hours ago, chicagofan said:

No FJ again today - didn't really have a clue until John's incomplete response of Bob D was revealed and then I thought it could be Bob Dylan. Sigh.

I wasn't rooting for John to win, but I was hoping he would win more $$.  He didn't seem to be able to get into the game either with the buzzer, or with his missed answers.  He seemed nervous, and a bit overwhelmed. 

[Browncoat]

Archive game for me for last night because I went to see "Killers of the Flower Moon."

I took the time to read the FJ clue carefully this time (unlike other archive games for me), and almost immediately came up with the correct response.  I almost said Elton John, but corrected myself in plenty of time.

I think I would have gotten fedora if I'd been able to see the photo, but I did get the TS of block, Leyden jar, and brother.  Leyden jar was a guess, mostly because I had no idea what it was.

Back in the day, my English teacher in high school used Simon & Garfunkel's song to teach us the poem, "Richard Cory."

[Trey]

Another decent game for me.

I got the ts's or missed DDs of fedora, K-ration, and (Little) brother.

Instaguess FJ.  I knew Dylan had won the Nobel prize in literature but I didn't know about his Oscar so I wasn't totally sure I was correct. 

[Clanstarling]

14 hours ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

I guessed Sweden for ärtsoppa since I was sure it must be a Scandinavian language.

I guessed a different Scandavian country...sigh.

12 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Bob Dylan won a Nobel Prize for literature? Did he write a book? Or were some of his lyrics deemed worthy of being called literature? I was baffled by that. (And clearly, no, I didn’t get FJ.)

I had no idea Dylan won a Nobel Prize, so I was trying to think of a singer/songwriter who wrote a book of some kind. The mister got it though.

With the USTA Youth clue (a subject I knew nothing about) I rolled my eyes and I said "i don't know - the color of the balls?" never expecting  it to be right. We had to pause the show because we were laughing so hard that I got it right. 🤣

Generally a decent game.

I don't mind about the tournament so much, and can't be bothered to remember what the heck is going on, so I just sit and watch whatever comes up.

Loved Jilana's necklace - though it's nothing I would ever wear.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Clanstarling

[Trey]

9 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Loved Jilana's necklace - though it's nothing I would ever wear.

I loved it too.  It didn't seem to move at all though, so I thought it was a tattoo.

[chessiegal]

43 minutes ago, Trey said:

I loved it too.  It didn't seem to move at all though, so I thought it was a tattoo.

I thought it was part of a sweater/blouse. but went back and looked and it was a necklace.

[ams1001]

31 minutes ago, chessiegal said:

I thought it was part of a sweater/blouse. but went back and looked and it was a necklace.

I was going back and forth debating between the two. But then I decided the shade of green looked slightly different so probably a separate piece.

1 hour ago, Clanstarling said:

I don't mind about the tournament so much, and can't be bothered to remember what the heck is going on, so I just sit and watch whatever comes up.

I don't mind, exactly, and will watch whatever as well (and mostly don't remember the people, anyway) but I want to see new clues and new players get their chance.

[Clanstarling]

28 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

I don't mind, exactly, and will watch whatever as well (and mostly don't remember the people, anyway) but I want to see new clues and new players get their chance.

Since I don't remember clues - and most of these players - it's all fine with me. Of course, I wish I could remember the clues, I'd get better scores. 😃

[ams1001]

11 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Since I don't remember clues - and most of these players - it's all fine with me. Of course, I wish I could remember the clues, I'd get better scores. 😃

I don't, either. Even when the summer episodes were literal reruns from just a few months earlier, I probably didn't do any better than the first time around.

[chicagofan]

I suck - still no FJ this week.

But I did have a really good J round. Ran "Produce" and "Disney Park Songs" and got 4 in "Water Under the Bridge". No TSs, but there was only one in the J round.

A nitpick from me - the attraction is The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, not Winnie the Pooh. Just sayin'.

DJ was not that great. Got 4 in "See "NN" and the TS of Jerry Bruckheimer. Know him from The Amazing Race and various CSI shows.

As to FJ - I couldn't really think of anything and just blurted out Marco Polo at the last second with no confidence whatsoever.

[Katy M]

FJ was an instaget.  

I got the missed clues of May and Electric company.

I got the entire categories of produce (first round) and 80s right.  I miss Donkey Kong.  But, I miss Space Invaders more.

[ams1001]

October 25:

73% / 57% / 66%

Decent first round…ran Produce, missed one each in Disney Park Songs and On the "Road" Again, and two in Water Under the Bridge, Book 'Em Dan-O, and Directions.

Not so decent second round…ran She Blinded Me With Science, missed two in Fill In the Blank Canvas, Wasn't That an '80s Thing?, and See "NN", three in Produce, and four in Also on the Monopoly Board.

FJ was again an almost-instaget (maybe guess…), and an asterisk!

TSes: (J! had 1; DJ had 5) I got Elizabeth Blackwell and May (I don't know why I guessed that; I'm not familiar with the artwork, but I'll take it!).
 

Edited October 25, 2023 by ams1001

[Browncoat]

Dammit!  I said Columbus, then overthought it and changed my response to Marco Polo.

And the only TS I got was Electric Company.

[shapeshifter]

1 minute ago, Browncoat said:

Dammit!  I said Columbus, then overthought it and changed my response to Marco Polo.

I second that emotion.
I considered Columbus, but went with Magellan. 

Oh well. I did get Dylan yesterday, following a train of thought similar to this:

21 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Bob Dylan won a Nobel Prize for literature?...

20 hours ago, secnarf said:

He did a few years back. It was really controversial (yes it was for his lyrics) and I think he refused to accept it He refused to attend the ceremony and received the award in private. All the hoopla surrounding it made him an instaget for me, although I didn't know he had won an Academy award and it took me a little while to clue in that it was probably for a song and that it was plausible. Otherwise singer-songwriter + Nobel = Bob Dylan for me.

...but I can't call mine an instaget.

 

[opus]

7 correct FJs in a row. Hold me, I’m scared.