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Cameron: “I’ll let Jared take a crack at the puzzle!” *CBS hurriedly replaces 50 piece slide puzzle of Machu Picchu at night with a Fisher Price shape sorter *

Mediocre Gatsby
Mediocre Gatsby

I appreciate her ability, but it's not entertaining for me. If I want to watch someone sit on a bed in a bathrobe for 20 hours a day, I have mirrors for that. 

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I tend to not post in the episode threads because I can never keep track of what is episode vs feeds, and don’t want to upset the mods. But I really wanted to punch Jared listening to his bullshit wit

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Brian Cronin

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11 minutes ago, Shrek said:

Matt has to win veto or he goes home. I think Jag knows the only one he wouldn't beat in a final 2 is Matt so he has to get him out now before it's too late. If he doesn't then he deserves to lose for being such a wuss.

Jag won, so we shall see. 

I think Bowie Jane beats Felicia, by the way. I think Bowie would have matt, cory, america and cameron. Felicia would have Cirie, Blue and, depending on whether he's salty or not, jag (if he's not salty, then he'd vote Bowie). 

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Nashville

Nashville

5 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Personally, I’m sick of the ‘America is a cradle robber’ schtick.

Cory and Cuba’s age difference is what, 5 years?  Phfft - give them another ten years, and five isn’t even worth mentioning.

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pennben

pennben

22 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Personally, I’m sick of the ‘America is a cradle robber’ schtick.

Yep. Can you even imagine them putting out a pic like this when roles were reversed &, as has happened, there was this age difference where the man was older?  
I guess I’m in my cranky old lady phase but big ole nope from me on this nonsense. 

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Never Again

Never Again

1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

I am 8 years older than my husband, so if America’s a cradle robber, I guess I robbed the embryo. (I’ve never been a patient person.)

Sit with me at the cougar table, girl,  I’m 7 years older than mine. It never mattered much and now we’re both just heading toward old age!

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30 Helens

30 Helens

I check in to feeds to see what’s happening with Felicia. She’s laying in bed, alone, in an otherwise empty room. Her suitcase is packed but open on the floor. I guess she just finds it easier to remove things as she needs them than to unpack and repack. Some clothes are strewn across the adjacent beds, because why the hell not.

She crunches on some chips, picks and sucks at her teeth, her stomach gurgles, and the microphone picks up all of this in full Dolby Surround.

She muses to herself, what can she say to Jag to make him keep her? Should she even bother? Matt has played a great game. Jag has played a better game. Matt played a safer game. Jag got his hands dirty. 

She ponders for awhile in silence, as her stomach continues to play the dirge of the damned. 

Eventually, she rolls over and pulls the blanket over her head. It’s not time for lights out, but she doesn’t care. She doesn’t want to be there any more. Clearly nobody is coming to talk to her. Jag will just have to vote his conscience. He better watch out, or Matt will be in those final two chairs with Bowie Jane. 

It’s going to be a long six days for Mama Fe.

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30 Helens

30 Helens

Against my better judgment, I decide to see what the Terrible Trio are up to. Jag and Matt are staring at the memory wall. They are mind blown by the fact their pictures are in identical spots on either half of the display. AND they’re both rimmed in purple! Spooky. Matt thinks Felicia’s picture makes her look taller than he is. His picture makes him look shorter. Cory’s makes him look chunky. Who was the tallest person in the BB house? Fessy was pretty tall. 

It’s this kind of scintillating conversation that makes me wonder why this season isn’t shattering records. ‘Night, all.

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Jillibean

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The cradle robber stuff is gender bias nonsense, and they themselves have clocked that. But since BB decided to go there, it seems like they're having fun with it and basically showing that they're unbothered. So good for them. I hope they keep up the unbothered energy outside the house, because they're going to see a lot of hate for very stupid things. 

As opposed to other houseguests, who are going to see a lot of hate for things that they deserve to be accountable for. I think Jag will fold almost immediately in genuine contrition and we'll be seeing his carefully cultivated apologies within days. If Matt or Bowie apologize it will be strictly PR, in my opinion. I do not think Matt has enough empathy or awareness to understand or believe he has done anything wrong, and Bowie is almost incapable of independent thought.

Jag was hinting to Bowie last night that Matt will win if he gets to the end and that he's played an amazing game. I can only hope he keeps up that energy through tomorrow night and that it prevails, since he's also said a few things that suggest he might keep Matt. Taking off my Matt-loathing goggles, the jury breakdown still seems favorable for him in spite of his poor play recently. It seems like he built up enough goodwill with people that they are still inclined to see him in a favorable light. He has Cory and Cirie for sure, so he probably has America and Blue also. That's enough. Unfortunately.  

 

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peachmangosteen

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1 hour ago, Jillibean said:

If Matt or Bowie apologize it will be strictly PR, in my opinion.

So, Jared style then lol.

Apparently, Bowie is subtly pushing Jag to cut Matt. I will howl if Bowie ends up winning the final HOH and takes Felicia to F2. That would be an absolutely amazing ending. 

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Before this all gets lost in the shuffle, I just want to thank everyone for their inciteful, funny, bitchy commentary this season. Every year, this board is the best thing about Big Brother! 

I'm sure we'll all cross paths in other show threads, but the 24/7 nature of BB makes this board unique.

Hail to all y'all!

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Brian Cronin

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Assuming it's a short season, so you only need, like, ten HGs, which ten winners could you even get on such short notice?

Definitely Kaycee, Josh and Cody. Jackson and Taylor are probable.

Then it gets weird. Ian, I guess. But I don't see anyone else being inclined to leave their jobs/lives and risk their reputations (you know Derrick wants no part of a BB game where people know his deal entering the house). Maybe Lisa has nothing else going on? I would imagine Jun, Dan, Maggie, Derrick, Hayden, Rachel, Andy, Jordan and Steve would all be no go's.

Then you got that insane BB7-9 era where I don't think the show would WANT any of those winners back. 

I guess BBOTT? Certainly no celebrity winner, right? Or maybe?

Oh, forgot  Xavier. He just got married, so I had dismissed him already in my head. 

And obviously no Will.

Drew! He would do it, I bet.

Probably not Nicole.

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Brian Cronin

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2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

My sister told me the rumor is it might be a Legends season and include people from outside BB, which would make it easier to cast.

Aha, that makes a lot more sense then, yeah. If you expand to winners of, like, the fucking Challenge, or whatever, then you have a gigantic pool of people whose only job is appearing on shows like this, so...yeah. 

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Thalia

Thalia

2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

My sister told me the rumor is it might be a Legends season and include people from outside BB, which would make it easier to cast.

I wonder if they could recruit Cirie Fields?  Nah, she's too big.  

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Skooma

Skooma

4 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

My sister told me the rumor is it might be a Legends season and include people from outside BB, which would make it easier to cast.

Yeah it would have to be because of CBS' diversity rule.  Though sadly someone like Josh would count as a "minority" because he is Cuban-American which could increase the odds he would be on.

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30 Helens

30 Helens

14 minutes ago, Diana Berry said:

Does Matt know jag may evict him or is he clueless?

He has to know it’s a possibility, given he’s been looking at evicting Jag. But then again, it’s Matt, so hard to say if the clues actually penetrate.

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mertensia

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1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

He has to know it’s a possibility, given he’s been looking at evicting Jag. But then again, it’s Matt, so hard to say if the clues actually penetrate.

Or he's the kind that never considers that others are also thinking. 

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Thalia

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Matt certainly gets offended at the idea that anyone puts their own game ahead of what is good for him.   So I wouldn't be surprised if he can't conceive of any reason why Jag would drop him at this point.  I'm pretty sure if Jag does send him out, he will be a Bitter Juror.  Particularly since Jag hasn't shown any finesse in handling those he votes out.  

 

 

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Brian Cronin

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6 hours ago, SummerDreams said:

Taran said that Jag is seriously considering evicting Matt? Is this happening or?

It's definitely a POSSIBILITY. Jag clearly thinks it is the right move, and Bowie is pushing him to do it, as well, but, I dunno, man, I think Jag is too much of a wimp to do it. 

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30 Helens

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I check to see if anything is happening on feeds, and honestly, what was I thinking.

Felicia is right where I saw her last: in bed, staring at the celiing, making noises. I don’t think the end can come fast enough for her. I bet she’s thinking Cirie was the lucky one.

Matt, Jag and Bowie are in the HoH room playing a game of Never Have I Ever. I’m not sure which I have less interest in, their Evers or their Nevers. And unlike Felicia, I can escape this shit, so feeds Off. 
 

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Thalia

Thalia

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The HOH 3 actually included Felicia in some activities last night that didn't include gaslighting.  I missed their Hide and Seek game but I sat up late last night and watched them play a really boring game of Chinese Checkers.  I've never played it and after having them on in the background while I read a book, I can't say I really want to.  

ETA:  The comments section on Jokers has a page and a half on Jag going around and agonizing over whether to evict Matt.  Sometimes he's alone, sometimes he's with Bowie.  At first I thought she was pushing him to do it, but I reread some of her comments and I think she was just being BFJ.  More worried about the affect on Jag's game and feelings than her own chances to win $750K

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Add info on Jag's adaptation of Hamlet's To Be or Not To Be shtick
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Jillibean

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I think there's a good chance that Jag will do it. He's doing all the things he usually does before cutting an ally, namely complaining about how he's done Matt's dirty work for him. But it's frustrating to watch him spiral, because he knows he has to get rid of Matt to win. The fact that he's still unsure of whether he should do it even with that understanding lays out the case for why Jag shouldn't win this game.

The fact that Bowie isn't persuading him to ditch Matt lays out the case for why she should not win this game. 

Of the four left though, I might be pulling for Jag. Bowie is less of a floater and more of a particularly vacant sheep. I haven't forgotten about Felicia's slut shaming, sexism, and liking certain people because they're better Christians than other people. And Matt has played the best game of those left, IMO, but he wins worst behavior of the season for me, and that is on a season that included both Jared and Cameron.

I take some sick pleasure in seeing how hard Reilly tried to clout chase with Matt, not realizing that Matt was about to out himself as a misogynist asshole to everyone watching the feeds and, even worse, not win. I wonder how fast she can write an HOH letter for Jag...

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peachmangosteen

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OK yea, Bowie just told Jag to evict Matt. Jag sorta jokingly but mostly seriously said maybe he should say all the times Matt was looking out for himself over Jag as his reasoning for it. Jag really is determined to make the best game moves in the worst way possible lol.

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pennben

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It is always such fun to watch Jag victimize himself every week to justify a game move. Suck it up dude!!  Still rooting for him to make this move & Bowie Jane to win & cut him next week. 
 

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Thalia

Thalia

30 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

OK yea, Bowie just told Jag to evict Matt

I just saw that. 

2 minutes ago, pennben said:

It is always such fun to watch Jag victimize himself every week to justify a game move.

I rewatched the Bowie/Jag conversation from around 1 BBT last night and that point she was playing the supportive friend and not really pushing him.  She was also way more solicitous of his damn wishy washy monologue than I would have been.  

Jag:  I don't know what to dooooo!!  Matt is going to hate me.  Reilly is going to hate me (uh, yeah).  The jury is going to hate me.  Matt's family is going to hate me.  America (the country) is going to hate me!  I'm going to self-evict.  I'm going to vomit." 

FBJ:  There there.  It is a tough choice.  

Repeat this about a dozen times and you get the idea.  At one point they both said they didn't think they could win no matter who was there with them at F2.  Okay, then why don't you BOTH self-evict. 

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30 Helens

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One of the more frustrating things about Jag is his inability to own his actions. He can’t just remove his competition, he has to justify it first by painting them as liars and traitors. That way, he still gets to feel loyal. They’re the ones who broke the trust.

Throughout the game, Jag has been so focused on maintaining his integrity and presenting the Sikh community well that he’s practically doing the opposite. Instead of presenting as a loyal, thoughtful, strategically savvy person, he’s just coming off as floundering, dull-witted and spineless. I don’t think that’s the image he wants to leave people with, but it’s the one I have right now. 
 

15 minutes ago, Thalia said:

Okay, then why don't you BOTH self-evict. 

I could get behind this. But only if they take Matt with them.

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

One of the more frustrating things about Jag is his inability to own his actions. He can’t just remove his competition, he has to justify it first by painting them as liars and traitors. That way, he still gets to feel loyal. They’re the ones who broke the trust.

You know who perfected this type of game play: Vanessa. I’m sure people did it before her but boy did she make it into a thing lol.

49 minutes ago, Gummo said:

Oh, I don't hate anyone left, and that in itself is refreshing. They're just ... unpleasant.

Yea, personally I hate Matt but the other 3 are fine. They’ve all (including Felicia) been assholes and they’ve all been fun and entertaining as well. Wow, multidimensional people lol.

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pennben

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Here’s what I’m trying to suss out now for endgame. Does Bowie think she’s drawing dead no matter who she sits next to at final two?

Next question I’m noodling on, is this the one time Jag should actually be “loyall” and keep Matt. Bowie wouldn't take Matt to end game, Jag neither. Is Felicia being there as easy option worse for Jag?

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atomic

atomic

Ugh. I hate Jag for even getting my hopes up.

Also haaaate Bowie Jane. I feel like if she pushed for Matt to go at all, Jag would probably go through with it. But she never actually plays to win and just told Jag it's not worth making the move "just for the money." 🙄🙄🙄

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