Predator and Prey: Assault, harassment, and other aggressions in the entertainment industry

[Makai]

45 minutes ago, Affogato said:

I assume she has agency

Given the current and past allegations, I’m not making the same assumption. Abusive men aren’t big on consent and agency.  

Edited Sunday at 04:32 PM by Makai

[Affogato]

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

Well I guess that makes it okay by you then, whatever "had agency" is supposed to mean.

I assume he doesn’t actually ‘dress his wife.’ Who takes a lot of ownership of everything she does.if she dresses like she dresses to please him, why would that mean he was a sexual criminal anyway? 

in addition I would hope we would get past slut shaming and, in this case, slut shaming by proxy. 
 

 

[Affogato]

2 hours ago, Makai said:

Given the current and past allegations, I’m not making the same assumption. Abusive men aren’t big on consent and agency.  

Then insult him, not her?  Look I don’t pay that much attention to that family unit, never have, not thinking about it now. If I did I would say that the way she chooses to dress is one of the qualities he valued and encouraged. If she gained weight or shlumphed out, that is where you would get the consent business and he would probably punish her. But likely not an issue unless it displeased him. 

Edited Sunday at 06:36 PM by Affogato

[Shrek]

35 minutes ago, Affogato said:

I assume he doesn’t actually ‘dress his wife.’ Who takes a lot of ownership of everything she does.if she dresses like she dresses to please him, why would that mean he was a sexual criminal anyway? 

in addition I would hope we would get past slut shaming and, in this case, slut shaming by proxy. 
 

 

He has form of trying to dress his wife according to Kim K so I'm going with him being a not nice person, you carry on making him out to be some sort of saint though. 

And insulting me isn't going to make you look smart the way you seem to think it does. Nobody is slut shaming anyone because nobody mentioned anyone being a slut, except you.

 

[Crashcourse]

3 hours ago, Shrek said:

Well I guess that makes it okay by you then, whatever "had agency" is supposed to mean.

Not saying it's true because I certainly don't know, but she always looks to me like she's being held hostage.

[Makai]

4 hours ago, Shrek said:

He has form of trying to dress his wife according to Kim K so I'm going with him being a not nice person

His ex, Julia Fox, has just come out and confirmed he did the same thing to her. 

Then there’s this, A history of Kanye West dressing the women he dates: Kim K to Bianca Censori

 

Edited Sunday at 11:24 PM by Makai

[praeceptrix]

There's a petition to stop Chris Brown from performing in South Africa, due to his history of violence against women.

[Zella]

3 hours ago, Makai said:

His ex, Julia Fox, has just come out and confirmed he did the same thing to her. 

Than there’s this, A history of Kanye West dressing the women he dates: Kim K to Bianca Censori

 

Yeah I was going to say he has an established history of controlling the clothing of the women in his life, so I don't think it is denying Censori agency to think it is happening to her as well. 

[SunnyBeBe]

31 minutes ago, praeceptrix said:

There's a petition to stop Chris Brown from performing in South Africa, due to his history of violence against women.

His actions have been condoned or ignored for years.  I’ve probably posted about it here for years.  For some reason, it’s like he’s teflon.  

[Makai]

10 hours ago, Affogato said:

If she gained weight or shlumphed out, that is where you would get the consent business and he would probably punish her. But likely not an issue unless it displeased him. 

That’s not really what consent is, but if I truly believe that a man is going to punish his partner if she “gained weight or shlumphed out” (or for anything) I’m not going to ascribe much rationally to him or his thought process. One of the earliest warning signs of an abusive relationship is controlling behavior over minor things. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Makai

[Soapy Goddess]

Kanye is a Diddy wannabe with slightly more personal issues iykwim.